Should I Supercharge my Toyota 4Runner? Magnuson Superchargers
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2018
- It's simple, should I supercharge my Toyota 4Runner? Magnuson recently released a supercharger kit for the 5th gen Toyota 4Runner - and it seems like it would solve all of my problems with the truck. You know this, my main gripe is that the 4Runner is under powered. If I could have just a little more, trailering the Turtleback in the mountains might be a little more enjoyable.
At Overland Expo West, we spent some time with Travis and Magnuson Superchargers and got all the details on how, when, where, what and why regarding supercharging the Toyota 4Runner.
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For those asking about MPG loss. Maybe 1-2 depending on how you drive. Yes you will need to run 91. I lost the most significant mpg from regear, lift, rack, additional weight and tires. Running higher octane isn’t a downside it’s a plus side when it comes to the performance and longevity of the motor. Yes in some states it’s pretty pricey especially here in CA but even after I sold the runner, I still put 91 in my 38 gallon tank on my tundra. As for the bottom end and internals and fuel pump comment. No need to do any internals or fuel pump. You’re barely pushing 6 lbs. and it’s been proven to be safe. The only additional parts added is a heat exchanger and pump and cooler plugs. In terms of dollar for the power, I went from 218/207 wheel to 328/307 👍🏼
Working at Toyota my self, I say the magnuson chargers are awesome, we install them daily. Never seen a problem. Miss the TRD's though.
TheEngineerGuy I was told Magnuson actually made the superchargers for TRD
Long live the TRD stamp
So you work at a Toyota dealer EngineerGuy?
I've checked with several dealers where I live and they will only install Toyota accessories.
@@GaryB94558 I did four years ago. Cant say what other dealers will do. Also can’t say if the dealer I worked for still does this. Nothing was through Toyota, was through the Accessories department that was at the dealership. So it was like third party, like for example Tint. But was installed by Toyota techs. Warranty was only covered by our dealer regarding powertrain.
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Thank you for replying
the interview with the Magnuson guy is great - so much great information!
Supercharge it. You have the 1 GR-FE. I had a 2007 Tacoma and in my opinion this is the best engine Toyota has ever put in the Mid-size. It's bullet proof. I think you will be extremely happy with the result.
I just finally took delivery of my dealer installed TRD premium with installed magneson sc. I had a loaner for a few weeks and I can tell you that those is how the TR4 should run. It's still not a track vehicle but there is power on demand whenever you need/want it. Expensive, but if you can afford it, you will be happy!
I have test driven a tacoma with a TRD supercharger. The power is a night and day difference. It makes steep hills feel flat. Accelerating to 70mph on a short freeway on ramp happens instantly. Just insane!
nice. How about fuel consumption? how it reflects on it?
Excellent content. Thanks for getting the overlanding community this info. Just picked up a 2017 4runner trd premium and the video has helped a ton.
I put a magnuson supercharger on my LX450....best investment. The low end torque off road is awesome (meaning I don't really have to touch the throttle) and its not hunting for gears on the highway. They do generate more heat so keeping an eye on the temps is crucial. I had to modify my fan clutch/colder plugs/3 core radiator.
I put the TRD/Magnuson supercharger with 7th injector on my 3rd gen. It really helped all the way around. I feel like it brought it up to where it should have been from factory since the 3rd gens were really lacking power. They make a solid product and it's not going to hurt you. It didn't even change my MPG... unless I hammer it of course. Also, it's just cool to do and will make you more cool. Sounds good too. I love the whine. I've had mine on for about 80k miles and never have had a single problem with it or from it. DO IT!!!
Yes, do it. I have supercharged a car before, the torque and horsepower gains are big. The engine can handle it, its durable enough to handle the extra power. It won't actually effect the gas mileage as much as long as you keep your foot out of it. I find it funny how much some people complain about gas mileage... it's basically a truck, trucks aren't Eco boxes.
The BMW didn’t display much acceleration in that clip
Haha I thought the same thing weak launch
Hugh Smitham that’s never happened, I’m afraid
On my third 4Runner. Have a 3.4 swapped '91. Had a '99 Limited. Own a 2003 V8 Limited now. Also had a 2013 Tacoma with the 4.0. I really like the V8 over the other engines. Though down on HP compared to the 6, the torque makes the difference. The V6 is underpowered. If you can afford it, supercharge it.
I love 4 runners but the desperation for more power really is sad. This suv should come with a v-8 as a base engine, not some 6 cylinder !
Well, your comment is 3 years old and the V8 is mostly dead across the average consumer brand. Sure, you can get it in a luxury brand like Lexus on a 460, but you pay that premium. And with the idiotic push for EVs I doubt we'll ever see a return to V8s as an option. Sad fact is America is built for everyone to drive EVs and that will take trillions of dollars of infrastructure, power plant building, millions of chargers throughout the US, etc to be viable. We're another generation from that being the norm, but the people living in fantasy worlds think otherwise.
We are saving up to buy a used 4R TRD Pro by next year. I definitely want to supercharge it. Coming from having turbocharged Subarus, we love having the power when we need it, especially on the freeway in the mountains. What I've learned from modifying our Subarus is as long as you run supporting mods and you are tuned (aka engine management) for any changes to the motor, especially when you're changing things that effect A/F ratio, it will last you a very long time. I'd put out there that you'd have better longevity by having the car pro tuned, you can put any other mods you want and change gear ratios on the car as long as the car is pro tuned for those specific modifications. Reflashing with an off the shelf tuning map isn't always the best when it comes to engine modifications and longevity of the motor.
My 4 runner with magneson SC makes the truck run like it should be stock. It accelerates when I need it to, and shifts normally rather than searching for fears all the time. Expensive but highly recommend.
I did it, I’m having it installed right now.
The supercharger is a great option but I would absolutely recommend you regear first especially since you are hauling the trailer and you have a slightly oversized tire. After you put new gears in it then decide if you need more power.
We have the same problem with our Jeep, as soon as we hit a long sustained hill when fully loaded at highway speed I have to start downshifting and run at high RPMs just to keep speed. Soon enough we’ll have a trailer in the mix, too, which I’m sure will make the problem even more annoying. Unrelated question: Can you share an Amazon link for whatever that clock/display thing is on your desk? I NEED one of those
Interesting video!, I'd highly suggest the upgrade if you're willing. But as mentioned re gearing might be a first thing to do? I myself am waiting for mag to develope one for my 16 tacoma. Lots of thinking to do! Great vid.
What about if u a Certified Technician that work in a shop and you put it on your own truck so do u still qualify for the warranty.
What a great Conversation ON this topic great video I agree super charger will definitely help on towing they help on 3rd gen 4runners as well And 4th gen 4runners
I got ah 04' 4Runner, V-8 and thought they put the same thing in the 04' Tacoma and Tundra, yet the 04' 4Runner isn't included?
Jason totally off topic but where did you get that clock on your computer desk?
Go for it. I think you will benefit from it especially once you get moved out west. Regear too, it just makes sense. Everyone is hoping for more power once the 4runner redesign comes in 2020. Maybe an V8 option or a diesel, I'd love a diesel option.
mykalbee Diesel option for the Tundra as well! In general a Toyota diesel would be nice. But how would the Toyota reliability go from there.
If there was a diesel I’d be trading mine in
I have a second generation 4runner in Australia which has done almost 90.000 miles. The 3.0 litre V6 is now an anchor on someones boat. I fitted the Lexus quad cam V8 with a minor modification to the cooling system,. Installed a 6 speed manual from the Toyota Prado and had the speedometer recalibrated to suit the new gearbox. Fuel consumption from the 4.2 L V8 is around 28 MPG on the open road and 0 - 60 in about seven seconds, A great car for long distance touring and a great four wheel drive when off road in the desert
Toyota is pushing out there first diesel out this year. One for tacoma and tundra the 4Runner is questionable still.
I have a 2018 4l 4runner with a K&N intake. Had that before the charger. I put a borla exhaust on. Then I got the itch and did Magnusun. It will pull hard and fast. I can set up at whatever speed I want and set cruise and let it go. Yeah he says not a racecar. But if you turn the traction control off and hold the brake enough to get the revs up the thing will do a real burnout. The acceleration is great for a 4l. I can go uphill from a stop and within a very short time I'm at 50+ mph heading for 60. Been on for 7 mo. no problems. Walts auto in Topeka did it. Hauls a trailer easily.
Does this mean you can't change or modify the exhaust if you add 'this' supercharger?
Is it possible to put a 5.7 in a 4runner ?
THIS! I had to drive my 4runner from Kansas to New Hampshire hauling a trailer with my motorcycle (~3k lbs) and it was good awful making it up the hills in Pennsylvania. 3rd gear with rpm's just screaming bloody murder.
You might consider a baseplate modification. These engines are designed to ingest a lot more air than what is allowed. I did this to my air box and I was truly impressed by the improved throttle response. I don't pull a trailer nearly as heavy as yours but my old 4runner does well when pulling.
what clock is that in the background I want it... also this helped me a lot. thank you
me personally i would supercharge it, in a way your gonna be putting less strain on the drive train since it wouldn't have to hunt for gears. Also TRD has offered superchargers for the V6 and V8 Toyota's for awhile and only recently discounted them and even when they had them Toyota still backed up the full warranty on the power trains with the supercharger which is about the only company i know has done that with any significant power gains.
The trd superchargers on the tacoma were discontinued due to toyota going from an Otto cycle to Atkinson cycle so the time and money to retune for CARB was not cost effective in Toyotas bigger plans.
Thing is an Atkinson cycle is actually more efficient for supercharging than otto is.
What tire size are you running again? I believe if you regear and supercharge you will be very very happy. I recently supercharged my 3rd gen AMD I can't believe the difference. I'm also going smaller pulley and 7th injector here soon.
For awhile I was stuck on this as well and I'd love to learn more. Here's what I do know so far tho. The consequences of getting a supercharger is that it'll wear out the engine and lessen the life expectancy of the vehicle. That's just a fact. One of my closest friends is a shop owner who installs superchargers on Subaru's, Audi's, BMW's, Mercedes, etc.
Respect those guys but they were a bit hesitant trying to answer your questions about life expectancy. Like "yeah but just don't push it too much or too often".
Well did I just buy a $45k truck plus another $7-8k for supercharger(with installation) so I won't feel comfortable (stressed and worrying in back of my mind) pushing the car when I want to? You're supposed to be free from worries like that after paying for so much. The idea is to give it power strength and durability but this isn't that at all. And $6-8k for 30%... yeah no I don't think so I might as well gotten a Tundra TRD.
The maintenance on a supercharged engine is also completely different you gotta make sure to always warm up the car and extra cautious with everything which will be stressful rather than enjoyable.
I truly wish that Toyota used an v8 (maybe 6th gen?) with more power in the 4RUNNER but this isn't the answer it just isn't justifiable in my humble opinion, especially with a price tag like $6k plus installation.
What about the spark plugs access issue?
Mr. J sir.. I probably felt asleep at the wheel, but I did not get the additional horse power and incremental costs of having this supercharge. Great video and thanks..
You were correct when you made the vid. I am on my 5th 4Runner Gens 3-5... Gen 3, gen 4 with a 6 , 2 gen 4 V8's one Sport One Limited and a 2017 TRD Off Rd Premium...The 6's regardless of generation, lacked torque & make the trans dance through the gears...The 4.7 V8's don't do this despite no giant Hp advantage.. Torque.. & Superchargers produce good Torque... My V8's all ran at lower RPM's due to torque allowing my trans to stay in higher gears without downshifting thus saving fuel & wear & tear... My 8's always averaged the same mileage as my 6's & in certain conditions with no lead footing, the V8's got 1-4 MPG better... I think a S/C would do the same thing...
Whats the new 0-60 time?
I don’t remember if it was mentioned but i think from a fieldcraft podcast they said that it takes premium gas. Would that be an issue for travel outside the US, like a trip to Mexico or further south?
It does. And it could be an issue
Peddle Commander can also help with the acceleration lag because of the electronic pedal and throttle body
How much would it improve off road performance?
I'm sold. I'm in the market for a 2020 4Runner and I want to do this Magnuson Supercharger almost immediately.
Thanks for doing this video, I'm also looking for trailer pulling power. Did anyone give you mpg before and after? The guy Magnuson said there where no trade off's, but I wonder about mpg if driven the same.
I’ve heard 1-2 mpg in reduction. But just having it wouldn’t affect mileage, it’s using it on boost, and how often that would make the difference. I added the sprint booster figuring for sure I’d lose efficiency, since I’m accelerating a little more aggressively more often. However, that’s not been the case. Still seeing the same consumption rate. But I still drive it like a grandpa.
Jason Koertge I think for the power and capability gain it will be worth it. I completely understand your love for the 4runner. It's really like no other.
You briefly mentioned regearing, and I think Kevin @ lifestyle_overland regeared his 4Runner. Have you talked to him about the experience on regearing? I've heard nothing but good words about regearing and I'm thinking about doing it too. Are you able to make a video about regearing in the future? I like how you explain and present things. Thanks.
What "snorkel" do you have on that 4Runner?
Jason. Great video. I am much earlier in the process of searching for power vs gears but appreciate this a lot. I too am getting an off road trailer within the next couple of months and I will probably be right around the same weight range as your setup and trailer. I am curious if you are running a transmission cooler or if you intend to? I live in UT and explore the desert a bunch. FYI, pretty sure we will be in the same town when you move out here: PC. Thanks.
😏 oh my...
im contemplating a vinyl wrap for my 4runner.....would love a vid on that
I'd hold off on the supercharging. Cool as it is, I think you'll get more out of the re-gear and have about 3k more to spend on trips and other equipment.
I have 3gen supercharged 4runner, 250k miles still running strong, been on it sense it was new. No problems with emissions test, resale is a lot higher than non. I can go right up i70 and other mountain passes in Colorado, I could leave a half hour later than the group of jeeps I go offloading with and still pass them on the way. My biggest concern before I got it was having to much power for off roading, but it only kicks in when you punch it, so it's like normal when creeping around. You will get better gas mileage when towing because it's not struggling. Also I put on the bigger tires and waited to re gear, didn't have to, plenty of power. Also if you don't mess with over boost and change pulley and injectors, it will last. I put in a switch to turn off traction control and abs, you can throw mud like no other. I being an owner of supercharged Toyota would highly recommend it!
I want/need one.
I talked to Serena at SDHQ about hers briefly (not sure if you saw her at the show, cement TRD Pro in the vendor area) and she has done the regear and s/c. Her input led me to go ahead and move forward with the s/c and mine is getting installed in a few days. Like you, all I want out of the 4R is a little more highway power. I'm going to be doing some cross country travel soon and every time I go to Flagstaff from Phoenix, even in an unloaded 4Runner, the damn thing is gear hunting at 70 mph and struggling. I just want to get up the damn hill or pass people in a timely manner. Like everyone else said, and you've said yourself, it's not going to be a race car. It'll never be a race car. But it will have the power it seems to be missing as is, let alone with added weight of bumpers, tires, skid plates, etc. I am kind of nervous since mine is a 2018 and it's a pretty new product, but going back to a trip I have planned in August (AZ to AK), the mountains are going to murder me trying to go up.
As far as mpg loss, people that have it say they're seeing about 1 mpg reduction. Sure you need to use premium and if you commute a lot, it'll add up. But when you have offroading as a hobby, I don't think you're in it to be frugal.
Fantastic feedback, thank you!!
i bought the mag kit its awesome
My concern is the rear axles and drive line when off roading. For example driving at Glamis sand dunes and such. Not running through the whoops but you’d definitely be using the supercharger a lot there in the sand.
I know what you're thinking though in terms of regear versus supercharger. With the supercharger you can pull a taller gear and theoretically get better fuel economy.
Jason, I had one installed by a ASME certified shop back in February 2018. My truck is currently at the Toyota dealership getting a brand new bottom end being installed after cylinder #4 lost compression. I have a question into Magnuson right now, waiting to hear an answer if the tune is running too lean. Power is fantastic but it has already effected my reliability. Think about this and ask a ton of questions!
Ouch. Whats the cost for that fix?
D c $9,500, Toyota is standing behind my 7 year/100,000 no deductible Platinum Warranty so it’s not costing me anything out of pocket. Magnuson will only warranty 36,000 miles actually on your vehicle, if you have 37,000 your hosed and 3 Years, plus it has to be installed by an ASME certified mechanic. Magnuson finally got ahold of me Wednesday (a week after I e-mailed their tech question via e-mail, the only way to answer tech questions) and then told me they have a one month old de-tune they are recommending and want me to send the supercharger back to them to check it out again before I re-install which they are saying could take 4-8 weeks! Plus, the Magnuson rep told me he was calling because someone alerted them about my post on IG! Needless to say, I am paying Toyota take it off and going back to stock because the Magnuson rep told me it could have been running lean because of high altitude or a bad tank of gas. Not my idea of “reliable power”. I am not at all impressed with Magnuson’s customer service or response. They have my information from when I registered it after my install in February by an ASME certified Magnuson distributor and I never heard a peep out of them about the new tune. My speculation/opinion and a few others who have had the same issue I have found out about, is this is a problem they are trying to keep on the down low, so basically all of us who are early adopters have been guinea pigs for Magnuson, for them to be saying these are still as reliable is a joke! For a upgrade you pay $5,700 for and put on a $45,000 vehicle, Magnuson can be way more proactive! Caveat Emptor, buyer beware!!!
Wow. That is enough to persuade me not to get the supercharger. I am surprised Toyota is covering the work to be honest.
D c Toyota is proving how good they treat their customers and how excellent their customer service is! Their mechanics found the issue and decided to cover it under warranty. I’m not saying this is all because of the supercharger, they obviously felt this was a warrantable issue, but I received no warm fuzzies from Magnuson that they have their product figured out, nor were there any warnings when I talked to reps pre-purchase on how finicky they could be with fuel/altitude/tuning, for thee guys on this video saying “just don’t beat it up” is stupid, if your inclined to buy a supercharger, you are probably the type to use the power! I was heading to the sand dunes in Central Oregon when my truck let me know there was an issue. You don’t spend that type of $$$$ to drive like grandma!
Totally agree. I was very hopeful though that the supercharger was my golden ticket to 4runner happiness. Unfortunately if you're having issues with yours (and others are too), I am going to hold off.
Did you discuss the fuel economy, what the actual dyno numbers were, and are you required to run premium fuel?
John B I was on 34s with 4.88 weighing 5800lbs and got between 12 and 13.5 depending on where and how I was driving. That’s better than some get
On 33s. Premium fuel only.
I'm always worried about the trans before the engine when I'm planning on making more power on vehicles.
RetroJared I agree good thing the 4Runner has a great transmission. I have one and I personally think it is fine the way it is but I do not overload it with heavy loads to Pull I have a truck for that.
My 2 cents. If I were you, I wouldn't do it, and this is why.
You'll worry about it.
Another thing is fuel, some folks had problems with ethanol content issues with the 5.0 supercharged (something to gauge). Granted, most of the time it is no big deal, and you'll have your fuel that you trust/like (there is a wonderful app Pure Gas to help you find ethanol free fuels). But again, I get the impression that you'd be one of those guys who worries about it, my dad was that way, completely. In some ways, I am that way with certain things.
I am sure it is great, I am sure it helps with mileage, I am sure it shifts less. But every time it goes to climb a hill, or you start watching temps off roading, you're going to worry about it.
Also, a buddy of mine, one of the smartest engineers I have ever been around, he put one of the TRD's on his 4runner back in 1999. He drove it like he stole it, and he loved it, as well as, wondered why others don't do it. But again, he's an engineer who was brilliant and insanely mechanically inclined.
Also if you're wanting to try something different you can hook your trailer up to my ZR2 diesel and drive it up a pass here, but I'm in Arizona (havasu). Just shoot me a message the next time you're in Arizona.
Whats the story with the cool desk clock?
Just a thought. Have you recalibrated your speedometer since putting on 33's? You are actually covering more miles than the mileage says per gallon. Not that it matters on a SC discussion.
I'd start with regearing and then reassess.
Sage advice.
Exactly, regearing will put you back in the power band.
But honestly Jason. Why even bother. The only argument is how expensive it is. If you can afford it then do it. 5psi of forced induction is nothing. Toyota guys are the literal end of the spectrum of worrying about reliability. Again 5psi of forced induction will really not express a significant increase of load on the motor. So it comes down to money. Do the gears and the sc if you can swing it. My 2 pennies
Seshboogie well, it’s a dog stock, so that’s not very encouraging. Lol
Seshboogie it will help with off the line, but the only gears available are 4.56’s and 4.88’s. Even if he went with 4.56’s, and with 285 tires, it will rev higher than stock at highway speeds.
The best gear for 285’s would be about a 4.10, and no one makes it.
Do it. I’m thinking hard about it for the old Vortec Max.
Get it!
Jason, supercharge it for sure and then regear and tune it. That way you can keep the 4runner and not to have to buy another new car. As well as have the Toyota reliability. Essentially the Magnuson S/C is a TRD S/C. Reliability both ways, always.
I say go for it. However, I am concerned about the maintenance and longevity of the supercharger.
The only question I have, (and maybe I missed it) Will my gas mileage take a huge hit with a supercharger installed???
Honestly the cheapest and simplest solution would be to cut weight. How much stuff do you really need (excluding safety/recovery gear). You keep adding stuff and adding weight and complexity. What ever happened to K.I.S.S.? What couldn't be accomplished with. RTT/awning and a camp stove? I'm a gadget guy myself, so I get it, but when you're packing on so much stuff that you're overwhelming your vehicle, maybe it's time to reconsider what you take with you. Just a thought.
Dave Manning you make a great point..I was contemplating a trailer but even then I'd want to have a set up that weighs 1500lbs max.. towing 3500 lbs of stuff may be a bit overkill and may be an indication to downsize and simplify.
Okay, but what is the 0-60 with the supercharge?
What happened to the Cummins diesel crate motor? 12 months ago that was all over youtube, surely they'd cleanup if they offered a plug n play for the 4runner for $14000.
Been debating the same thing! The question is: Magnuson or URD? Then add the equal length headers and a full exhaust.
That's $10k installed, or $85 for each hp.
Just install one horsepower each month, then not so painful to afford.
Jason,, given the back and forth you have done regarding 4Runner v. Land Cruiser, and the comments you made in this movie about liking your wife's Land Cruiser but liking your 4Runner more, I would love to see you do a movie comparing the two. Especially since you have both at home. What do you like more about the 4Runner than the Land Cruiser?
I was wondering if you love the 4Runner platform so much but want more power why you wouldn't look around for a 4 Runner with a V8? You live in the south were vechicles last for ever. Why not start with what you want and then add more power if you need? They do make a schedule for the 4.7L after all.
I’d start out with a regear. Going up a mountain, you will still have to worry about lack of air with a super charger. Regear is much better for increasing your wheel torque. Think about semi trucks. They make like no HP and a ton of torque. They also have super short gears. Also, although the gears are going to be aftermarket so they may not have the same quality as OE Toyota, I’m sure it’s way less risky reliability wise than doing a super charger.
Jason you're smarter than to ask the man responsible for selling superchargers if they are going to do any harm to your 4Runner. That's like asking the guy selling you meth if it's dangerous. You would be shocked at how much you gain from regearing.. Yes the supercharger will be fun, but you have to consider the eextra cost of premium fuel, and there has to be some added ware on your 4Runner. Anyway yes a supercharger will be fun , but make sure you look at all the pros and cons.
prerunnermaniac, agreed. Plus he gave bad information about boost on an S/C. He said most people will be in boost for 5% of the time. Incorrect. A supercharger is mechanical forced induction and there will be some boost. It’s not like a turbocharger, driven by exhaust gases where you can be off-boost.
Hahaha. Trust me, that’s not the limit to my own personal research. This is content man!
Jim Wilson that’s untrue. There is.
So, what is your verdict? Yes or no?
Modern PD and twin screw blowers have a bypass valve that open when Throttle position is such that there is still vacume in the manifold. AKA 95% of air flow by passes that rotors and no work can be applied to the air flow. Meaning no boost/air flow through the rotors and negligible load on the crankshaft.
FYI I am part of the design/fab and tuning team between what was Stage One Tunning/BRP and Static X motersports with factory support from Honda that designed a roots based supercharger for the s2000 so you could say I have some expert knowlege on the subject of forced induction.
Go with a re gear first. Im not convinced adding a S/C at that cost and the additional potential headaches are conducive to a reliable 4Runner. Now you'll be running premium AND getting less mpg. Honestly I think if you're really going to go further, you'd be better off selling the parts on the 4R, sell it, and go with a Land Cruiser. 4Runners are great but there IS a point where it doesn't make sense.
Proper gearing is likely more advantageous for a Turtletop 4runner. However, It also doesn't make neat wooshy sounds or turn heads.
Yes
I’d
I did try to get one at my local dealership on my Runner with only 25 miles on it but their head mechanic said no way, due to warranty issues but sounds like Toyota would have covered it. I did find a Toyota dealership in Dallas that would install it but already spent the money by the time they got back with me, so maybe next tax return I’ll pull the trigger and get one.
I have been out of town for the 7 months. … So, did you do it? Did you go for the Super Charger?
I didn’t.
Why didn’t you
What does it do to your gas mileage? better, worse, same?
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I get better gas mileage with 3 gen supercharged 4runner than my non 3 gen 4runner, didn't have to rear gear for 33s. Plenty of power.
These vehicles can go 300-400 thousand miles. A 3yr/36K warranty on their supercharger kit is not very comforting.
Send it !!
DO IT!!! Post vids of install.
I want one for my 4.7 100 series
Hard to see but my Tacoma with a flippac is parked in the background ;)
Yes do it already!!!
Supercharge It
great info. I've bin toying with the idea of a supercharger as well. hey j any word on expo east tickets being on sale yet?
I’m about ready to SC my Land Cruiser....
wouldn't a turbo best for like up hills and high altitude
The word bulletproof seems to have a pretty low threshold for use these days.
I looked at this as well. I would like it but the $6,000 price tag isn’t worth the price for just a little more power
Jason, by the looks of things, you have your heart and mind set on purchasing the supercharger, and I think it will be a great upgrade for your build.
That being said, if you truly intend on keeping the 4runner for an extensive amount of time, I would be skeptical on purchasing it, because it will definitely affect the longevity of your truck.
My buddy blew his motor and had it rebuilt in his 5th gen 4runner due to the Magnuson Supercharger. Granted, he drives it like he stole every time he hops in, but at the end of the day, the motor blew because of the supercharger. Good thing they have a 3 year 36k warranty, or else he would have spent a pretty penny rebuilding the motor.
Reality..he blew it driving it like a maniac and probably had the supercharger pushed to its limits. Yeah, HIS fault. Not the charger's fault. If he wanted the insane speeds he should've gotten a sports car.
Yes..... this is no question
DO IT!!
In the Jeep world we would re-gear first. Then maybe add power. Up to you. No idea what the cost to regear a 4Runner would cost.
22 re can it handle it.
I plan on driving my 4runner for 20 years. If it can't keep up with traffic 15 years from now, I'll put a supercharger on it.
My opinion toyota should of made for the higher tier 5th gen 4runners like the trd pro or trd offroad they should of offered a v8 model like the 4th gen sport models and even put the 5.7L tundra v8 in the 5th gen 4runner higher tier models for the offroad and toei g capabilities
For an Overland rig, it seems like a bad idea. The extra power would be nice for driving on quality roads, but with the amount of weight you carry and the trailer you probably wouldn't use much of the power while off roading. And it would likely have a negative affect on fuel efficiency, range, reliability, parts availability, and fuel availability. All things that seem more important in an overlanding vehicle.
DOOOOO ITTT
Hey Bro... just finished my Supercharger and intAke exhaust... HMU if you want pics and details
If you want more power you should go for the land cruiser or a tundra... meanwhile maybe regear
land cruisers are WEAK to lol