How to Test an RCD - BS 7671 Amendment 2

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
  • Changes to BS 7671 under Amendment 2 of the 18th Edition of the Wiring Regulation requires RCD’s to only be tested on the AC setting regardless of the Type of RCD and at the rated residual operating current of the device. This simplifies the testing process so even if you have an A, B or F Type RCD you only need to test it on the AC setting of you MFT tester and at 1 x delta n (often this is 30 mA) with a maximum disconnection time of 300 ms.
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Komentáře • 111

  • @GSHElectrical
    @GSHElectrical  Před 2 lety +10

    BS 7671 Testing RCD’s - Regardless of the Type of RCD Test it as if it is an AC RCD at x1 ONLY czcams.com/video/zIPgYcLdQZE/video.html

    • @simonbooth7802
      @simonbooth7802 Před 2 lety

      Why does my meggar trip the Rcd on zs readings

    • @Jack-zu4ke
      @Jack-zu4ke Před rokem

      @@simonbooth7802 my ethos tester has a low current test for zs readings which takes longer but doesn’t trip breaker, the other earth loop test i just use for ze readings as is faster (and no breaker to trip)

    • @Ds-zv6oo
      @Ds-zv6oo Před rokem

      ​@@simonbooth7802 During a Zs test your meter simulates a fault between live & earth and measures the resistance.
      If there is an RCD/RCBO in the circuit it detects the fault and trips. Some meters have a low setting which should avoid tripping the RCD.

    • @XionGaming2912
      @XionGaming2912 Před rokem

      ​@@simonbooth7802 What setting are you using for Zs testing?

  • @LITTLEEXPERIMENTCHANNEL1

    Thank you for these dedicated instructions to electrical knowledge and equipment use.

  • @MAAZAD
    @MAAZAD Před 6 měsíci +2

    What the hell!!! Massive respect to electricians man. Have to say the British standard is next level. ! Looks complicated

  • @chainsawsandgenerators9952
    @chainsawsandgenerators9952 Před 2 lety +73

    Only the British can make something so simple seem like your going to the moon

    • @MS-Patriot2
      @MS-Patriot2 Před rokem +16

      Lots of armchair committee electrical experts dreaming up wacky ‘what if’ scenarios and keeping the industry in constant commercial motion.

    • @chainsawsandgenerators9952
      @chainsawsandgenerators9952 Před rokem

      @@MS-Patriot2 agree, the US is becomeing the same way with regulations

    • @MS-Patriot2
      @MS-Patriot2 Před rokem +4

      @@chainsawsandgenerators9952 UKs latest regulations have actually simplified areas associated with GFI/RCD mostly because they’d confused the hell out of the electricians who used to understand what they were doing !

    • @bmo14lax
      @bmo14lax Před rokem +1

      So many European countries make their equipment look like it's for the moon he's not wrong LOL alot of unnecessary stuff (a lot of "faff" as they would say)

    • @HBSuccess
      @HBSuccess Před rokem +7

      It’s the accent. A Brit on the job here in the US adds instant credibility to your crew.

  • @Oto_Travel
    @Oto_Travel Před rokem +5

    Excellent instruction

  • @lydiastock-ce3rv
    @lydiastock-ce3rv Před rokem +3

    short and simple. Thanks!

  • @almerdiahmed3160
    @almerdiahmed3160 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Nice job thanks

  • @foodandstuff2724
    @foodandstuff2724 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I remember working in a museum as a apprentise and had a big yellow tester with a strap around the neck and I was asked to test the phases and I put the probes on the wrong cables and blew the entire tester up, it sounded like a box of glass and the electrician with me just laughed his head off and then had to explain it to the boss. I think it was around 800 pound

  • @linkenabled6166
    @linkenabled6166 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This is cool

  • @mdmvukengineer4873
    @mdmvukengineer4873 Před rokem +3

    Perfectly 👍

  • @josephkallouch547
    @josephkallouch547 Před rokem +2

    Thanks man

  • @derekgoodwin6646
    @derekgoodwin6646 Před rokem +7

    Do the test at the board especially rcbo much easier

  • @gino2465
    @gino2465 Před rokem +2

    I failed my am2 because I did not do the half time test first Gary. Gn3 stats half times then 1 X tests.

  • @hoonsurdaddy8482
    @hoonsurdaddy8482 Před rokem +3

    Why do you test all rcds as of they are AC type?

  • @adamkerrigan8365
    @adamkerrigan8365 Před měsícem

    Any comment on why you haven’t done half times?

  • @alanmarriott9216
    @alanmarriott9216 Před 8 měsíci

    What’s the point of having type A setting then in megger tester if we only test on AC setting?

  • @mcoys1029
    @mcoys1029 Před rokem +7

    Or just put it on auto and get the 1 times and 5 times value together

    • @roystevenson1375
      @roystevenson1375 Před rokem +1

      I think that the 5 times requirement has now been done away with in the 18 th edition

    • @mcoys1029
      @mcoys1029 Před rokem +1

      @@roystevenson1375 idk I’m the apprentice you see but we record both one times and five times

    • @mikkiv222
      @mikkiv222 Před rokem

      ​@@mcoys1029only need x1

    • @crustyzimmerman3324
      @crustyzimmerman3324 Před rokem +1

      The 40mS disconnection is for 5x.
      How are you showing compliance at 70ms?

    • @mcoys1029
      @mcoys1029 Před rokem

      @@crustyzimmerman3324 couldn’t tell you that I’m the apprentice we record the 1 times and 5 times at 30ma

  • @peterwithers7514
    @peterwithers7514 Před 2 lety

    In your GSH video "RCD Testing Made Easier....?#shorts" you say all loads should be removed. This is also stated in the GN3 brown book page98 paragraph 2. So does the load include the cabling and should it be disconnected with the test done at the RCBO? With RCDs it was simpler as the RCD test could be preformed at the board with the MCBs off (although strictly speaking the neutrals may still be in circuit).

  • @alistair1793
    @alistair1793 Před 2 lety +2

    Whats max disconnection time for x1 is it still 200ms?

  • @shamrockshore6308
    @shamrockshore6308 Před 6 měsíci

    So the rcd failed to trip in less than 30ms for 30ma test.

  • @user-yh4kl3hx2o
    @user-yh4kl3hx2o Před 7 měsíci

    What's with the degrees??

  • @thattoolguy9432
    @thattoolguy9432 Před 2 lety +3

    Doorbell socket gaz?

  • @daniel-ino
    @daniel-ino Před rokem +1

    Never have seen such a test done in Europe. Is this a UK thing?

    • @einlehrling
      @einlehrling Před rokem +1

      Here in Germany we do similar tests

    • @Zombie_Longwinger
      @Zombie_Longwinger Před rokem +3

      BS7671 uk wiring regulations are some of the best and safest in the world. “HD 60364
      CLC/TC 64 is the technical committee responsible for HD 60364, which is the European standard for Electrical installations and protection against electric shock. This is essentially the European version of BS 7671.”

    • @apsaila2020
      @apsaila2020 Před rokem +1

      In Malta it is mandatory to do these tests.

  • @drake19891
    @drake19891 Před 10 měsíci

    What is the Ul=50V during RCD test?

  • @NERTH247
    @NERTH247 Před rokem +1

    Why not use the auto it records all results as you reset the trip switch

    • @andrewhall9580
      @andrewhall9580 Před rokem

      👍 why would you waste your time when you pay 2000 grand to test in auto lol 😂😂

  • @maiertv_official
    @maiertv_official Před rokem

    The RCD is from Siemens right?

  • @stevelawrence7111
    @stevelawrence7111 Před 6 měsíci

    So why did they upgrade the testers with ramp testing?

  • @jonnyduncan7056
    @jonnyduncan7056 Před 2 lety +1

    All change for Ammd 2!! Only one test...Don't need 0deg and 180deg..

    • @GSHElectrical
      @GSHElectrical  Před 2 lety +4

      Test at one times i Delta n as a minimum and for me in both half’s of the AC waveform 👍🏻

    • @jonnyduncan7056
      @jonnyduncan7056 Před 2 lety +1

      @@GSHElectrical indeed and agreed and for someone also who has been told over and over again during 16th, 17th and 18th, it seems a bit strange, now we only have to do one test on the RCD officially.

    • @jonathanwilliams704
      @jonathanwilliams704 Před 2 lety +3

      The reason for testing at 0 and 180 obviously is to ensure that the RCD detects and operates on either side of the waveform. But with 1x given we have a maximum operating time of 300 ms, if for example the fault wasn’t detected in the negative half, then there is time to ‘wait’ until the next positive half cycle to ensure compliant operation. Whereas at 5x and our 40 ms that becomes a little tighter once you allow for mechanical operation and where exactly in the wave things occur.
      Similarly I have never understood why the Fluke does the 1/2 twice on auto. The test runs for two seconds, so why do you need to run it again starting a 1/2 cycle later…

  • @kylereed3474
    @kylereed3474 Před 10 měsíci

    Does anyone know the model of this consumer box? Love the fact the led under each switch

    • @Steve-ef7ss
      @Steve-ef7ss Před 8 měsíci

      Wylex

    • @nathannicholson1111
      @nathannicholson1111 Před 4 měsíci

      the protective devices are AFDDs, they are an additional level of protection and cost a pretty penny more than a regular RCBO lol

  • @samthomas2083
    @samthomas2083 Před rokem

    where in the onsite guide does it tell you the maximum trip times?

  • @maiertv_official
    @maiertv_official Před rokem

    32 Ampere for A socket ?

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess Před rokem

    I find what you guys in the UK do fascinating, but what really bugs me are the device-cover plate combos. What a giant PITA when you want to repaint… or for that matter when hooking them up initially.

  • @dearodeer8238
    @dearodeer8238 Před rokem +2

    Damn my rcds dont have little lights on them I'm going to have to change them now

    • @sarariro
      @sarariro Před rokem

      That's a AFDD integrated with RCD. RCDs alone do not have indication light.

  • @edmondhodaj5817
    @edmondhodaj5817 Před 6 měsíci

    You going backwards ?

  • @h1tman874
    @h1tman874 Před 3 měsíci

    whould you not test it at the board its simple enough and faster

  • @patlink2745
    @patlink2745 Před 9 měsíci

    What’s is full meaning of RCD

  • @stephenfraser2521
    @stephenfraser2521 Před rokem +3

    $3300 meter ohhh myy

    • @donpindol778
      @donpindol778 Před 9 měsíci

      All that money spent and his half inteligent meter won't tell him what kind of connectors being used on the job.

  • @General-Eclectic
    @General-Eclectic Před rokem +1

    I'm thinking that Lucas had a lot to do with creating this lunacy.

  • @BakedTuber
    @BakedTuber Před rokem

    Someone please enlighten me. Is the faster the disconnection time the safer the RCD?

    • @kaizenanalyst4833
      @kaizenanalyst4833 Před rokem

      YES! It has to do with impedance (resistance) of the circuit. If there's an electric fault, someone could get electrocuted; therefore, it is imperative that the RCD trips (disconnects) the supply of electricity fast enough to prevent severe biological damage. If the impedance (resistance) of the circuit is too high then the RCD won't detect the imbalance in time so the faulty current will keep flowing (and causing damage). If the impedance (resistance) of the circuit is low enough then the RCD will pick it up (relatively) instantly and trip (disconnect) the faulty supply. That is why your EFLI (Earth Fault Loop Impedance) readings have to be compliant.

    • @BakedTuber
      @BakedTuber Před rokem

      @@kaizenanalyst4833 Shouldn't you be testing the RCD and not the circuit??

    • @kaizenanalyst4833
      @kaizenanalyst4833 Před rokem

      @@BakedTuber Yes, you are testing the RCD but that RCD would be on a compliant circuit (which you would've tested and confirmed as compliant upon initial installation of the circuit). And in fact, on pg 95 of Guidance Note 3 (published by the IET - The Institution of Engineering and Technology), which is updated to BS7671 Amendment 2, it says "Prior to these RCD tests, it is essential, for safety reasons, that the EFLI is tested to check the requirements have been met."

    • @roystevenson1375
      @roystevenson1375 Před rokem

      ​@@kaizenanalyst4833 .I think you're confused...

    • @kaizenanalyst4833
      @kaizenanalyst4833 Před rokem

      @@roystevenson1375 i've only just picked up some theory books. No practical experience ever. By all means, please set the record straight.

  • @bmo14lax
    @bmo14lax Před rokem +2

    Man you guys must have tons of work lol.

  • @simonsmith2802
    @simonsmith2802 Před rokem +1

    Those RCD,S are rubbish because that RCD would fail and blow the electronics in them I would stick to standard RCD much better and more reliable

    • @GSHElectrical
      @GSHElectrical  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for commenting

    • @adamkerrigan8365
      @adamkerrigan8365 Před 11 měsíci

      Explain Simon? Because you don’t think the manufacturers would have taken this on board? Lol. Behave yourself

    • @djsdontdance
      @djsdontdance Před 8 měsíci

      HMO left the chat Simon.

  • @davefish8107
    @davefish8107 Před 8 měsíci

    And the meter is only £800

  • @handsfree1000
    @handsfree1000 Před 6 měsíci

    Don’t tell all the idiots how to do a test, otherwise they’ll think they are qualified to do it themselves

  • @jukesr
    @jukesr Před 7 měsíci

    So, it's a failure then?!! as it should not exceed 40ms

  • @jonathanheaysman2338
    @jonathanheaysman2338 Před 6 měsíci

    This is excessive.

  • @edmondhodaj5817
    @edmondhodaj5817 Před rokem +1

    just put in auto, saves you 4 trips

  • @carlashleyelectricalservic3333

    If anyone is fitting these new rcbos then there absolutely of there heads, there an accident waiting to happen no need for the technology involved, a simple manual reset button is all thats required and has allways been required, customer doesn't ask you for these and a bigger bill and then to replace these after a yr of so so why bother just fit the normal rcbos,amd for the testing........well how absolutely boring can u be ffs who cares to tell people about this your not gonna teach joe public to do an eicr ffs these guys need to get a life if your a spark then get out there and do aome work and earn some money instead of wasting your time trying to teach people online, thats what a college is meant to do 😂

  • @user-on6kr3rs5m
    @user-on6kr3rs5m Před 11 měsíci

    Would you do the test on both the left and right plug socket or just the one?

  • @adamkerrigan8365
    @adamkerrigan8365 Před 11 měsíci

    How come you haven’t done at half times?

  • @marctT4887
    @marctT4887 Před rokem +1

    So your advertising how to. Do you want todo yourself out of work? Shouldn’t this be left to an actual qualified electrician who is legal todo so

    • @nathanstephenson775
      @nathanstephenson775 Před rokem +4

      What DIY person is going to spend £2000 on this peice of equipment.. this video is clearly for educational purposes for electricians

  • @theoracle2877
    @theoracle2877 Před rokem

    Yawn….😵

  • @mikkiv222
    @mikkiv222 Před rokem

    Better doing it at your db pal

    • @GSHElectrical
      @GSHElectrical  Před rokem

      Already made that video 👇🏻
      RCD Testing Made Easier…? ✔️
      czcams.com/users/shortsFjmKcs6mudw?feature=share