Because the backlash of firing her would, in their minds, be too great to do. You cant fire the "strong, independent woman whos showing all the men what's wrong with their movies and doing them better."
Imagine if the film was about Indy and Marion joining Mutt on his own adventure? They'd travel to China in the middle of the Cold War, assisting a contact who turns out to be a grown-up Short Round.
@timesnewlogan2032 exactly if they'd have paid attention to the game Homefront they could have gotten it to at least make more sense lol. The funny thing was it was supposed to be China but uhm yeah you could imagine how the CCP felt and no self depreciating production company would let that happen.
The saddest part is Indy is one of the most revered classic characters, and whilst I felt the reputation was still upheld after Crystal Skull, this movie was an insult to Indy, it would’ve been a fine ending with his marriage to Marion at the end of the last one.
At this point it's hard to say who has done more damage to Lucasfilm....George Lucas himself with the shitty prequels and Crystal Skull, or Disney with the sequels + Dial Of Destiny.
@@xuvial1391 One wanted to tell stories that expanded the scope of what the franchises could be and also expand the medium by pushing it forward. You may not always agree with his choices but there was sincere artistic merit to always try new things that didn't walk all over what came before. They were also very personal in the case of Star Wars as if you know where to look it tells his life story. Temple of Doom too. The other wants to bank on your nostalgia while making safe calculated rehashes that also regress legacy characters. It's not that hard to see the difference as it may seem. Also, don't forget Spielberg was part of making Crystal Skull too.
@@xuvial1391I plead to disagree with the point on the prequels. The prequels by no way were “shitty films”. Their backstory of anakin skywalker and most of everything else was done perfectly, the only issue the prequels had was George Lucas and his flawed ability of writing dialogue
@@xuvial1391 really nothing to complain about when it comes to lucas, prequels and crystal skull, though flawed, have intelligent and psychically responsible messaging.
I'm British-Italian, and on both sides of my family (from York in the British side and from the South in the Italian side), I have had grandparents and uncles who lived until they were 100 years old. All of these people, until their last day, were incredibly proud individuals, always full of energy. They were never sad, depressed, or anything like that Indiana Jones character. Beyond my family, I know thousands of elders who have much more energy than me, a bloody millennial who finds it hard to get up from their chair. They were shaped by the Second World War, and they never lost their characteristic pride and energetic lifestyle when facing life. So this notion of old, depressed people like Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker doesn't hold up at all. Maybe a better script would be an older character who demonstrates much more courage and resilience than a bunch of kids who can only play with their smartphones, myself included. And just because the authors are Americans doesn't mean they should have the idea of "depressed old people," because many of the old Americans I've met are just as hardcore as the European ones. 💀☠💀☠💀
I've also seen old people who were full of vitality and were very impressive, it's so heartwarming. And then a tragedy befalls them and they change completely. That happens all the time too. Not everyone is happy-go-lucky. Depression is okay and real.
@@Dilmahkana I believe that elder depression is influenced by many factors. One common factor is when they feel excluded from society and forgotten by their family and those around them, or when they are treated poorly as if they have been discarded after a lifetime of use. However, if an elderly person remains active by engaging in activities such as playing chess, reading, creating art or small crafts, or taking care of their home, they can maintain their well-being until their last day of life. Perhaps what you're referring to is the fatigue that elderly individuals often experience before passing away, rather than depression. It's been observed that people tend to become sad, tired, and disinterested in interacting with the world as they approach the end of their lives. However, this fatigue is primarily due to a worn-out body, and it differs significantly from the feeling of true depression, where a person feels disconnected from the world, utterly useless, and abandoned by society.
So true!! I interview patients into their 90’s and they truly inspire me with their optimism, enthusiasm and gusto for life! It’s really so awesome and cool to think, many of them lived happy lives and still enjoy exercising, their spouses and have just a good sense of humor about life. This is what Indiana Jones character should have been. Not weak, futile and naive. How in the world does this tall female know 1/10 the wisdom that he does?! The movie would’ve been better if he taught her a lesson or two. Thank you for your comment!
As someone who does creative writing for a hobby, I have to say: these films make me realize what NOT to do when creating a story and forming characters. (It's disappointing to see that modern entertainment is showing me the things I should NOT do when it comes to creative storytelling. That's just sad.) The critique from channels like this one also help to see what makes these films so... icky. It makes me reflect on the choices I've made in my own works so that I don't make the same mistakes. So... yikes.
@@johntiggleman4686 There was a period of my life where I was hoping the books and comics I've read would get some sort of adaptation, these days I just pray everyone ignores my darlings.
@@writingonthewall3326 Its a perfect description of the rabid Marxist feminist matriarchy of incompetence, divisiveness, and hate that has destroyed everything from education to entertainment....
Saw this movie this evening... my God you're spot on!! To me the most insulting part of the strong female character was somehow knowing what was best for Indy at the end when he made it 110% clear it was his decision to stay in past". Then she's all "no, I know better because... reasons". I think that would have served as a better ending to the Indy saga. But nooooo.....
One thing I really liked about the cars 3 movie was taht although the new female character that came in to help out the male lead find his hights again is a great talent in of herself. The movies still made it clear taht his experiences are very valuable and you can really feel his knowledge and skill that has built up over the years. Crazy how cars 3 did it better than the majority of box office movies these days.
One of the reasons I absolutely love Top Gun: Maverick is that they didn't make Pete a washed up, depressed husk of a man. They made everything he used to be, but seasoned from experience.. ya know, like a real person.
@@kittyhawk9707 completely relevant. Contrasting Disney's now trademarked destruction of a beloved character by making him a withered husk of his former self with Paramount's source-material-respecting approach of making him jaded but competent and still able to teach the up-and-comers a thing or three. Or did you just want me to say "Drinkers tone at the end made it clear he's fed up" like half the other people here.
I like to think that there's an unused ending somewhere where Indy stays in the past and at the end Marion, mourning his disappearance, attends a museum showing of the discovery of an 'ancient hero' lost to time and sees the hat and realises that it's Indy. It would bring the whole series full circle because Indy himself would 'belong in a museum' and become a key part of history that he loves so much. The worst part of the film for me was the end, when Indy decides to stay in the past and 'strong female character' takes his choice away and knocks him out, deciding for him. Having an abrasive, unlikeable woman with no positive qualities force Indy to make a major life decision against his will is the biggest disgrace of the film. Indy is a man who always makes his own choices, for better or worse and that was the most unforgivable part of this film for me, which did have some good moments and overall could have been better than Crystal Skull by a longshot.
Jesus Christ, watch the movie again, but this time without your political specs on. Not every movie that comes out nowadays is going to push the message, and that applies to Disney products too. You have to at least try to live in the moment, and not make everything about politics.
@@gavinvales8928 You're just plain wrong here, narratively the film is absolutely pushing that agenda, just not as overtly as in other films. Just because you can't see how they're doing it doesn't mean others cant.
I enjoyed the beginning and the ending. The travel through time. That paranormal event that is in every Indiana Jones movie. It's magical. But I was bored during the middle. I really liked that Marion came back. Call me sentimental.
I love how The Drinker, says the writers aren't creators. This is coming from the HACK who ripped off the Bourne books and Tom Clancy. You understand that Kennedy doesn't write, star , direct or actually do anything besides put money towards the project, correct?
She must have SO MUCH DIRT on these Hollywood execs to still be here 30 years later cranking out money-losing DIRGE! She's like a movie industry version of Ghislaine Maxwell ffs
My son turned me in the cinema when Shaw punched Indy. He said “why did she do that?”. Poor kid, I didn’t have the heart to tell him the truth, nor would he understand.
@@matthewrichmond4139 I’m being flippant, but the film industry has been used for purposes other than mere entertainment in the past. In the same way we see historical figures smeared, statues toppled etc, I wonder if destroying iconic masculine heroes of the big screen is an extension of the current post-truth western paradigm
at this point KK's self casting of a young brunette woman in every movie about a male protagonist, is definite proof that she's really salty about her years as a bad looking assistant who's been a side character all her life and now she's out for revenge on... fans ? lol
What’s with so many self-insert characters for women these days? This is the type of shit that wouldn’t be excusable as writing after elementary school.
I had a glimpse of hope watching the first 15mins of this movie until the strong female character appeared and it was all downhill from there. You are spot on, the modern film studios are not creators but destroyers.
I'll tell you one thing they really screwed up, was when and how they revealed that Mutt had died. Now don't get me wrong - I was no fan of that character in Crystal Skull. However, they misled us to believe that Indy was a depressed alcoholic due to separation with Marion. That is out of character for Indy, and it just didn't make sense. Later, in a very indirect and offhanded way it was finally revealed to us that Mutt died in the military. They could have made a much more compelling plot narrative out of it if handled right. Something like this... Mutt died, we find out right when we jump forward to 1969. Marion has separated from Indy. It is revealed to us later in the movie that Marion found out Indy had half the Antikythera mechanism, and that it was rumored to allow time travel. Marion, having experienced many supernatural things in the previous movies, totally believed that it could, and that Indy should devote all his energy to finding the other half. Indy did not believe it, and thought it was a bunch of BS, so he would not go after it. Marion was so hurt and enraged that she separated from Indy. She nearly goes mad (in place of Phoebe's dad) researching and hunting the mechanism for that reason. Even though she doesn't blame Indy for Mutt's death, she is just as upset with him for not doing everything he can to try and undo it. Phoebe in this movie is unredeemable, almost exactly like Dr. Elsa Schneider in Last Crusade. She has a kind of child like innocence, naivety and lack of moral compass that leads her down almost the same plot path. Phoebe sets things in motion, through her knowledge that Indy has half the Antikythera, and she manages to steal it from him. Now Indy has no choice but to get it back, and in the process of the adventure it leads him to the other half. He also encounters Marion, in a very similar situation as in Raiders - she is in some foreign country, scraping by a living, after having run out of money and being stranded. They use the Antikythera device, and just like in the film they travel to the wrong time. However, Phoebe gets left behind and eventually dies thousands of years in the past. Indy tries to save her, but can't, and she's gone forever. Indy and Marion now understand the flaw of the Antikythera device, and with that knowledge they successfully go back in time to save Mutt. They manage to talk him out of enlisting. Then, in the final emotional climax of the film, when Indy and Marion return to the future they find that Mutt is still dead - he has died of some other cause. They realize that they cannot change fate, and no matter what they do Mutt is destined to die in the past. Or if you want, it's all a happy ending and when they come back to the present time, Mutt is alive and well.
I showed my 7 year old son the Indiana Jones trilogy while he was off school this week with tonsillitis. He loved them and asked if there were any more Indiana Jones movies to watch. I said "no, just the trilogy".
Good. That was the right thing to do. Like not telling them Santa Clause etc is not real. He will find out in his own time and way. There are only 3 Indy movies. The other two were made years too late and for the wrong reasons and it shows. Your clever white lie means he can enjoy the Indiana Jones stories as we all did back in the 80s without them being ruined. When he is older he can make up his mind if he wants to see the two belated bad films. If he wants more Indy, get hold of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. He will enjoy those and learn something of history and world into the bargain.....without knowing he is being taught and keeping it fun....the best way to educate a child in my book....
The same way with my boys and star wars. They can discover the wreckage on their own voyage in life. I like the movie magic being there, and that they have a connection to these older films.
Two missed opportunities I thought surrounding Helena. 1, her father should have been Marcus Brody. And by the trailers, I thought Toby Jones was playing a young Brody. It would have tied her in better with Indy. 2. Maybe instead of Helena, the sidekick could have been a grown up Shorty. The kid who was the sidekick on his first adventure, comes back as an adult, down on his luck, and resorts to robbing his old friend of a priceless artifact to sell at an auction. Indy refuses to believe that Shorty is capable of such a thing and comes back as a friend and father figure to Shorty. Then at the end, Shorty is the one who refuses to let his adopted dad go, and reunites Indy and Marion.
I watched the movie listening to the score, could be one one of the last John Williams scores. Many of the scenes would have fallen flat without music, JW did a wonderful job as usual, with subtlety, fun and nuance. He kept the old Indy alive like an IV drip.😊
I'm impressed with Kennedy's ability for the Indiana Jones series. It took a few years for her to destroy Star Wars, but it only took one movie to fully bury the Indiana Jones series.
It's really not all that impressive actually, when Last Jedi come out, people still have hope that Lucasfilm could make the next movie better But after many failure, people just don't trust Lucasfilm anymore. Indiana 5 got released by the time Lucasfilm at their worst, so people are already have many doubt about it even before it come out
Remember that South Park episode where George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg raped Indiana Jones after the premiere of Crystal Skull? Now replaced both of them with Disney and Kathleen Kennedy for this movie.
@@ngoclamtruong5033 it was slow, but impressive imo. It takes balls to take something like Star Wars and misuse it constantly to make many crappy movies and shows to the point that Star Wars no longer excites many people.
Indiana jones was a tenured professor for over 30 years and his father was also educated and would have left him a sizeable amount of money after he passed away. How exactly is Indiana jones left broke living in a low rent apartment?
Just went to see the film yesterday and was a bit skeptical going into this video. However I’m really surprised that nearly every point you made is completely spot on to what I was feeling. The train scene at the start WAS the best part of the film, there were way too many boring car chases, how did Waller know where they were in Crete? The little Spanish boy WAS just another attempt at recreating Short Round, Indie should have just stayed in the past in the ending… Also that scene where Indie knocks over all the pots in the storeroom seems really out of character, and it’s weird that he only uses the whip once during the film where I can think of a dozen occasions in Morocco where I would have come in handy? The only thing I disagree with is that Wombat isn’t as bad as you made her out to be (even though her character motivation keeps changing after the boat scene). Also I think the sudden personality shift of Dr Jones is justified considering Mutt died in Vietnam (at least I think that’s what they said, I can’t remember if they mentioned him dying or not) Also the other bad guys were actually really cool, especially the big burly guy. Overall I think it’s better than Crystal Skull, but not as good as the OT
I took my 84 year old grandpa to see this movie. He loves action movies and I used to watch the original Indiana Jones movies with him as a kid. I didn't read or watch any reviews before going so I didn't have any expectations. We both really enjoyed this movie. I don't understand the hate, even after watching the review. Especially about the Wombat character and Indiana Jones' character. I agree with you that Indy changed because his son died and his wife left. Life lost its flavor and he gets a taste for it again at the end of the movie. For me, Temple of Doom remains the worst Indiana Jones movie. Billie's whining and screaming is unbearable the entire film. For this movie, my grandpa and I enjoyed seeing the old characters and enjoyed the action sequences. My grandpa was very amused when Indy was struggling with physical limitations due to age. The only bit I thought was boring was when the characters met Archemides.
Kathleen Kennedy is like a little child playing with it's father's train collection. It doesn't know what it has, and it throws it in the corner when it's finished playing.
A cruel and bratty child, at that. When her father tries to teach her about the trains, she spits on him, insists she knows better, and breaks parts to spite him.
I went to the theater with no expectations and still ended up disappointed. I can’t believe people are saying this is better than kingdom of the crystal skull. I’m like REALLY? This makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like the Last Crusade. At least Indiana Jones was the Indy we knew and loved in the 4th. He doesn’t even fight in the 5th movie. He gets some hits in but mostly he gets overpowered by everyone else. I get it he’s old but that’s the point. Indy was watchable because he was an adventurer that was always in way over his head but was able to come out on top because he could handle himself. The younger Indy would easily make quick work with the villains in the 5th film by himself.
“And they talk about the male ego” 100% !! I actually just saw these movies in a completely new way. They are Kathleen’s fantasy of George Lucas being a wasted old man and her taking his place as a powerful and refreshing female. She must have been building up resentment about not being as good as him over years and years. He was so good and she wasn’t, she couldn’t cope with it. So she imagined herself as perfect and him as a loser, and that’s what we see playing out on screen over and over. These new movies are her psyche forced onto old franchises. Amazing insight Drinker.
@@MarVIogs She owes him everything yet gives nothing back. Oh well, I just hope Lucas and Spielberg were dicks for her to work with and had their fun. If they were nice to her then it's doubly fucked up.
F is for Females replacing icons. A is for Aimless filler. I is for Inflated budgets. L is for Losing touch with reality. U is for Uninspired plots. R is for Rampant cringe. E is for Egotistical directors. What's that spell? DISNEY!
I would really like to see a comparison of how this movie treats "old age" or deconstructing legacy characters with Logan, which was brutal with Wolverine and Dr.X, turning their defining traits against them, dreams crushed and looking only to hide away until death. yet they didn't mock the characters
He wouldn't - but the powers that be feel compelled to portray White men in any negative light that is humanly possible. No different to the garbage ads where White men are mere buffoons.
Kathleen Kennedy is an inspirational woman. She proves that you don’t have to have any talent, skill, awareness or creativity to still thrive at the top of an industry bravo.
If the Drinker is wondering can Hollywood still continue an established franchise today he should watch Confess, Fletch. A not great movie but still decent enough to leave the hero intact in an era of mass castration. They manage to update the character for modern times without turning him into a walking wimp. Jon Hamm has fun with his role and the movie is moderately entertaining. No MeToo references that I could remember.
Kathleen Kennedy likes to GUT heroes of the past. I dunno why or who hurt her, but I'm guessing it was someone who was angry at her purposely breaking their nicest stuff.
The only thing that would save this movie would be an arrow in Helen's neck for interrupting Archimedes and telling men what to do. I would rewatch it daily at the movies and give it 10/10 ratings.
@@howaboutno7959all it is now is dust and echoes. That’s it. There’s no stone left unturned, all that it is now is a grave yard of were once great franchises have been drained and left to rot.
@@wonkabars6982 you know what, I think I’ve finally figured it out. This whole situation with Disney reminds me of Halo Reach. Both are similar but different, in that in Reach, your efforts where futile but you tried to save the planet. With Disney, however, they did the opposite, in that they purposely glassed their beloved ips for vain brown points and the “modern audience”, but ended up killing the very golden eggs that gave them success in the first place
I can't get over the incredibly poignant metaphor of dragging Indiana Jones out of the past, where he was comfortable and wanted to die, into the modern age where he is miserable, soulless, and depressing. If that isn't modern Hollywood I don't know what is.
Bro seemed genuinely happy and satisfied with staying in the past, but then they just had to pull the typical “time travel trope” where changing the past can have dire consequences even though he’s on the brink of death and can’t really do much. I feel so bad for Jones 😢 and I hope that dictator Kathleen Kennedy can soon face consequences for ruining some of the best movie series of all time
I watched Raider and the Last Crusade for the second time like two weeks ago. They have aged fine. Action scenes and humor still stands up, which is all that matters for films like these. Indiana Jones is in it's core is like a more heroic take on the basic pulp formula of adventure man going to exotic location to plunder artifacts. Making a film with that kind of formula these days is hard. First of all the Indiana Jones title wasn't passed on when Harrison Ford was young, so the namesake role is attached to an actor who is too old to do actual action scenes. Second, in the current year you have all sorts of harpies screeching about colonialism and racism and what have you if you do a movie about a white guy ransacking ethnic dungeons. And then you have the usual feel of films made by a committee that modern Disney is so notorious of and overabundant use of CGI, which ages a lot less gracefully than properly done scenes on set.
Having Indy stay in the past would’ve been a history-altering event that could lead to a terrible outcome. And he’s not going to be miserable anymore now that his wife’s back.
After watching this at the cinema my first thought was "I kinda wish they made the whole movie like the first 15 mins".... Temple was a prequel. So could this have been and hence we could all stick to riding into the sunset is the end of the FOUR Indy movies.
@@paulelroy6650imple, because he's telling the truth about modern movies and how they suck nowadays, we literally have to watch CZcamsrs like Drinker because of how Critics will hate or like anything, and audiences are split towards movies... Granted sometimes Drinker isn't always right but I'll take someone who sees cinema for being what it is instead of how others describe and want it to be
4:30 this is the second major review that I've seen get this wrong. The movie makes it clear that there are only two possible locations of Archimedes's tomb: Sicily or Greece. The boat is headed in the direction of Sicily, so of course Voller knows Indy is headed to Syracuse.
At least Crystal Skull gave Indy a satisfying, happy ending to cap stone the series. He married the woman he loved, he has a capable and honorable son to enjoy his life with. This tears it apart
No way, because it fits the character isn't it? Just think about it. Harrison had a great time making the movie, he wanted to do it. This was a last adventure, and we should take it this way, ofc it's not better than any previous ones, maybe except Crystal Skull.
More like return to the recliner and fall asleep with the paper on top of you. Your son has forgotten you and your wife died last year. You can't knock the top off of rice pudding never mind hardened criminals. Now that film is called reality.
"soul wrenching 'go away now!'" is what I walked away with also. There was quite some pinache in that summary which was ultimately liberal Hollywood's report card which is a fail on a 15-point grading scale (the same one North Carolina uses).
I thought Drinker was quite generous with that one. I didn't even think the beginning was good. To quote Black Adder...it started badly...tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end the better.
Drinker, you master of analysis, I think you should rewatch Indy and the Crystal Skull. I think you’ll be surprised how it’s not as bad as we all remember. I think it would be cool to see the side by side comparison of character arcs between crystal skull and dial of destiny.
As @TheCriticaIDrikner once said: . If there’s a silver lining to this shit-storm, it's that the scale of Kennedy's incompetence only underscores the superiority of all the movies she tried so hard to bury and upstage. Working with less money, more primitive technology and fewer resources, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg achieved something she'll never ever equal - a legacy to be proud of.
The sad thing is that in her social circle she as well has achieved something praised and held in high regard… destroying landmark franchises of male identification.
Did all of you forget all the movies she executive produced that you people claim as better than this? She was responsible for the first three films. You remember that, right?
The last shot of this video says it all. The iconic closing of Last Crusade with Indy, his dad and the others riding into the sunset. That's the Indy I will remember. We didn't see him age out, and we didn't need to. He was just Indiana goddamn Jones, whip-toting, snake- hating treasure hunter. Forever.
Henry Jones: calm down Jr. Indiana Jones: stop calling me that!! Indi's friend: what's with this Jr.? Henry: that's his name Henry Jones Jr. Indiana Jones: I like the name Indiana. Henry: we called the dog Indiana. Indi's friend: (laughing) a dog? You named yourself after a dog? (laughing) Indiana Jones: I had fond memories of that dog.
But this is pure fiction. It's a fantasy, a delusion and story we tell ourselves time and time again, to repress thinking of mortality and death. I like that our childhood Hero's are deconstructed to the point where we see their fragility, because that is what we are. It is grounded in reality.
@@RoseJetExhaust If that's what you want to get out of it, I can certainly respect that view, and you are correct. Of course it's fiction, that's the whole point, movies are a form of escapism. It's not necessary to see Indy, or Han Solo or some other classic swashbuckling hero, to always be seen later as this downtrodden, sad old man whose life went to shite. Couldn't he just be chilling happily with Marion when adult Short Round shows up to beg for his help rescuing some Chinese artifact for reasons? I'd be right on that. I'm just saying every film doesn't need the harsh reality of life. We've got enough of that already lol.
It's almost hilarious how current content creators in Disney underestimates their audience. Being a fan of something means that when you are a kid, your classmates are mocking you from the first class for not playing football with them and instead heading to a comics shop, library or just home to read and watch and play with action figures. Than you are a teenager and instead of trying to look cool and be the most popular a-hole wearing the latest fashion and listening to crappy music in a hope of attracting the most wanted exemplars of opposite sex you stand your ground, your moral principles and keeping your authenticity following your own dreams and sticking to what you always loved. And than you are an adult and all your surroundings is trying to drag you down to the bland greyness of what they think is normal and appropriate for a grown person. And you as a fan still stand tall, sticking to what you always loved and not giving a damn about what is proper, normal and expected. So basically being a fan means for the whole life you walk against the wind and staying upright while everything around you is trying to bend you to their own image and projection. Fans are hardened people who never lost their compass and never gave up their inner child. And to those people, hardened by facing a constant opposition and used to stand their ground no matter what, their are trying to inject their mindless propaganda and force a political views of people who probably never had to face a single real life peril and their world view is formed by reading a social media of their friends. Good luck with that, Disney!
@@LonovavirYour username suggests an imaginary antiviral drug, which is pretty innovative. Love it. And the point you made is the bottom line. That's the absolute truth..imo, of course.
I would have liked to see Short Round (Ke Huy Quan) carry on the franchise, I thought it would have been the next natural step after he won an Oscar. He has experience with stunts and fight choreography, they could have made something more grounded but also action packed, something that could have had a chance at being interesting.
The sad part is that Hollywood, despite their obsession with "mah diversitay" doesn't have faith an an Asian male lead in an iconic and celebrated franchise, even though Short Round is an iconic character himself. Sorry, but that's the cold, hard truth.
My father is an old man, and I think he said it best watching the trailer for this: "They just can't let boys have heroes any more. I don't wonder why. I *know* why."
I don't consider my self pessimistic, but the older I get the more I have to agree with my dad. "Everything you loved growing up turns to shit". Which sucks so much to actually experience.
Here’s my advice, stop consuming Western media, unless it’s agreed by a large amount of people to be really good, instead look to the East because they have so many stories to tell in many different ways, from live action drama/comedy, to vidja games, to animations, to their better comics. In other words, ignore the west, embrace Japan.
48 years old and experiencing it too. My wife and I are about to emigrate to a south-eastern country to live a simpler life there in a year or so from now. I'm not planning to follow the news much there. No disappointments about movies and pop culture, no frustration about the LGBTQQ+ community and islam both taking power and suppressing western society, no stupid laws about the environment that makes life seriously difficult and expensive while China is building over 800 coal plants etc etc etc. Just a simple life with a house on the beach, renting out a few huts to make a living.
As a Greek I want to say a bravo to Harisson for his excellent greek at the end....She couldn't really make any sense and the ancient greek was weird. But Harisson nailed it!
Jesus christ, the broken male hero again? Imagine what top gun 2 would've been like if Disney was making it? Though I doubt Tom Cruise would allow himself to be humiliated like that also.
probably be in a zimmer frame and the made up inserted daughter of his old flame from the first movie would magickly be 10x better than him in the cockpit I reckon
Wouldn't you rather see a Top Gun 2 in which Maverick isn't the hero super-pilot that we remember, but rather gaslit into thinking he's a washed up never-was, upstaged in fighter aviation by an obese African American lesbian with a fade haircut, that's somehow an immediately better & flawless pilot, even though she's never flown any plane before in her life?
It sucks because 15 years ago they treated Indiana Jones right. I know a lot of people hate Crystal Skull but atleast Indie was still kicking ass as an old guy and wasn’t a broken man who was miserable to watch.
This movie is yet another example of JRR Tolkien's quote to be true.... “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
For the past few years, the evil ones have been insisting that they are tearing it all down so that they can "build back better". The world isn't better.
Literary/Artistic Necromancy, the idea of re-embodying the message of the original writer or creator with intent to pervert/distort/re-imagine their original work.
At 8 min, regarding the kid being able to fly, when we are first introduced to him in the film, he's learning how to fly from a pilot. They are sitting at a table, and the pilot is explaining to the kid on what he needs to do, while the kid is using random items to look like airplane controls. Im not saying it's in any way realistic and believable, I'm just explaining as to why she asks him if he can fly the plane. She knows he has been practicing on how to fly planes.
After everything I heard I was shocked that I was seeing so many people on social media say the movie was good. But then I noticed they all had pronouns in their bio, and everything made sense.
I have zero pronouns and me and my other not woke friend loved it,Im 51,so its my generations franchise. I liked it. Sorry if you didn't, but don't pigeonhole people who do, dick.
The most facinating aspect of this movie is looking at how miserably the green screen cuts are made. Observing the difference of lighting in the backdrop and the main cast.
Kathleen Kennedy isnt even trying to hide it anymore. She's made it clear that George Lucas's vision for star wars is gone and that we should 'move on'. Sad to see a beloved series me and several others grew up with be destroyed over someone with a personal agenda
If it's gone, then it should burn to the ground and to let it rest at least for awhile. For someone, an actual Star Wars fan who grew up with it + would respect it, to revive it from the ashes down the line(assuming Nukes haven't dropped).
moving on isn't bad ... it's natual process as we change to become better versions of ourselves. The problem is that the new thing is not a 'better/improved version' of its predecessor. Instead we got something that only exists to destroy and hate the very thing that allowed it to exist.
It's only destroyed if people accept it. I'm not even gonna see it. Too bad that most of the money made off this movie is CZcamsrs and podcasters disparaging it for ad revenue
I met a lady friend just yesterday who had seen the Dial of Destiny the day before. She knew nothing about internet posts about the film but loves Harrison Ford. So when asked (without prompting) what she thought about the film she said it was crap (actually more ladylike than that), badly written, confusing and senseless. She also thought Ford was now getting a bit past it (her term) and that she could not stand "that dreadful" woman and thought that the writer got wrong way round and that Indy should have punched her in the face. Now this lady is mid-aged, smart and a film fan so if she thinks this about the D of D what is it that Iger, Kennedy and the others in Disney don't get.
If you need a break from modernity, I highly recommend the original Little House on the Prairie series. It shows the beauty of society before tv/mind control destroyed humanity.
Amazing. They gave Indiana Jones the Luke Skywalker treatment. After they saw how that went down, the horrific backlash, they really thought "yeah, let's do that again!". W A T
If at first political correctness does not succeed, try, try, try, try and so forth.. again.. The mentality is to utilize a form of propaganda; destruction is inevitable and money is easy to obtain.
Why are you comparing a broken Jedi to a professional archeologist? Indiana Jones didn't die or completely lose himself in the fucking fifth movie in the similar vain as Luke Skywalker in Star Wars The Last Jedi! What a load of Nazi propaganda I'm truly witnessing here!!
That was the angriest "Go away now" I've ever heard. In Harrison Ford's defense, you'd be sad, weak, and broken too, if you saw what they were doing to one of your most beloved characters. Why SHOULD he help them make a fool of him? The worst part of this, I have a friend who went and saw it last night. She posted on her Facebook that she was going, and I replied "My condolences. They made a mockery of him". She replied that she enjoyed the movie! I don't know what to say to that, because I don't want to come off like I'm telling her "You're stupid, you don't know what's good, you've been suckered", because then I sound like Disney, telling us the same thing, that we're stupid, and we don't really know what we want or like, and we should just accept NEXT PRODUCT, and ask for more.
You don't NEED to say anything. LOL. Just be content that you learned something new about your friend. Maybe offer to take her to see SOUND OF FREEDOM on July 4th.
The thing about these movies, like the Star Wars sequels, on a surface level they are enjoyable, if you don't think about what you're watching. It's when you think about them and analyse them on a deeper level that you realise how terrible they are and feel the undercurrent of identity politics, misandry and hatred for the source material.
It's possible your friend just enjoyed a bunch of action sequences, without thinking too hard about the plot or characters. That's literally every MCU movie, and look how many people like those (probably including some of the people knocking this Indy movie). They have no characterization and no plot, just a bunch of loosely tied-together action sequences and wisecracks. No wonder Disney thinks the formula can work. I hope someday to watch decent movies again, maybe after the industry finally crashes and burns.
My wife and I just watched this movie today. It gave me gas and was dreadful to watch. I didn’t get any of the feeling that I got from the original film. Great review man, spot on.
I feel confident in saying that KK has for many years held a grudge if not a hatred of being relegated to working "under" Lucas and Spielberg. Only someone consumed by envy of both their talent and success in the industry would put such effort in destroying their legacy. Only someone with her narcissism would think they could supplant their legacy with her own in such a ham-handed fashion. For her this all wasn't so much ideological zealotry as it was a more fundamentally base, a personal vendetta. Perhaps Spielberg's snub could be due to him coming to a similar conclusion.
Let's set the record straight. There was no snub on KK by Spielberg. Stop listening to CZcams idiots who are pushing for clicks and views. We all know the main players for Indy are Spielberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. KK was the coffee runner girl on the first indy set and married into her producing role. She walked on the coattails of great creatives before her to get to where she is at and nothing more. Why would Spielberg ever consider giving her praise for anything creative? Because a CZcams idiot said that she was snubbed in a speech? I must have missed where she created the Indy character by herself or acted out the part or wrote an entire script or directed a film or produced a musical theme for a whole film....actually I've read where she did input her ideas from time to time to Spielberg, all of which were tossed aside because they were terrible ideas.
@@dansanfrisco Oh you are spot on correct about her irrelevancy to the creation of the franchise. Spielberg very likely did not have that as his intent. But it was obvious to anyone watching that SHE felt snubbed. Such is her ego. She's all clapping and smiling until Williams is announced, and her husband tries to pull her off the stage. So the so called idiot has a better take on Hollywood egos than you in my estimation.
@@marbellaotaiza801 That wouldn't surprise me. After all he idiotically decided it would be "disrespectful" to put English subtitles on his remake of "West Side Story". The point is KK felt snubbed. Not that Spielberg intended to snub.
In the movie Teddy says to Helena 'is he running the show now'? And helena replies 'of course not, we are running the show' and the this quote summarise the movie.
That's what I go to see in my adventure films, the crippling realism surrounding old age and loneliness. Yeah he's older and slower but a balance for it could have been found when it came to the stunts and fight scenes but no we have to have him broken, weakened and sad. They could have had him retiring on a high as a success but sad because he thinks his adventure days are behind him which would have been better than what we got. Yay! Give the audience hell Indy!
My favorite part is when the nhazi throws bleach on the black character and yells "This is MAGA country" while strong and brave horseface girl flies into the window and punches the villain while shouting "the future is female!", then Harrison Ford fall asleep on the pile of money he got after selling out.
I’d say you’d still should see the movie for that opening sequence. It has a genuine ‘Indy’ vibe and gives you warm, fuzzy feelings. The rest was only moderately interesting to see how old characters are doing/looking ‘today’, for a few nods to the previous films, and some entertaining action. The opportunity to come up with something new and exciting was completely missed (deliberately?) and it’s quite clear there is no future for this Helena character, despite obvious efforts to pass her off as brilliant, attractive etc.
From a business perspective I'm actually incredibly interested to watch how the next 5 years play out for Disney. They're about to complete implode from self inflicted wounds and I'm here for it.
I dont think that's gonna happen. Maybe it will, but na it won't. disney is one of those companies that can't fail no matter how many shits they can bring out of their arses
@@ronel7836 it almost went bankrupt in the early 90s and the little mermaid and Lion king basically saved them. That's why I said it will be interesting to watch, because it's a pretty sticky situation and will take some major moves to right the ship.
@@cliverosfield69, Why? What purpose does it serve to prop up an entity if it continues to uniformly produce films and series which are, in the main, popularly rejected and don't earn a profit? If the contention is it's for the propagation of disseminating a steady state of indoctrination into whatever malign cabal you may happen to be fixated on, how effective can such propaganda truly be if it's not being watched (repeatedly, at that) by a very large proportion of the pop culture viewing audience?
Yes! I thought the same thing after the boat scene, like they were able to find Indiana simply by looking at the direction they were going in middle of the ocean. I did almost let out a gasp in the theater on that one. The movie was never great, but went down hill quick when they were in the water looking for map. You could predict so easily that while they were underwater the bad guys would show up and of course they did. Everything after that was rubbish except I will say that the very end was one of the few redeeming values of the movie.
I had a totally different take. The movie was all about how the world still needs Indy, even if he does not feel needed. At the beginning, the world has its new heroes in the Apollo 11 astronauts. But Indy is the hero of this flick, having the wisdom to find the artifact. He sees at the end he is very much needed - his wife still needs him. And the final second, where he literally chose not to hang up the hat, tells me that despite Lucasfilm's track record, Indiana Jones is in good hands - only Harrison will ever be Indy and only Indy will ever be Indy.
"GO. AWAY. NOW." The absolute fury. And I am 100% on board. It's like they know these ideas are going to bomb, and they decide they're going to just do it anyway for the sheer spite of destroying the legacy of the films.
Let this video get all the recognition it needs. Because in the end "GO AWAY NOW!" Tells you everything of how god-awful of a studio Lucasfilm is these days.
I think we could eliminate internet porn if Kathleen Kennedy started directing it.
Maybe we should give her to Russia to direct their army.
If KK directed pr0n, society will strive.
@@StCreedthe Russians have already suffered enough
Na, there are enough masochists who will always eat the shit that other people leave them.
Exceptional banter!
How is Kathleen still in charge?? She’s made so many awful films at this point that there’s no way in hell anybody can just look passed it.
nepotism
It's not about the money... it's about sending a mESsaGe
She knows where the bodies are hidden
Because the backlash of firing her would, in their minds, be too great to do. You cant fire the "strong, independent woman whos showing all the men what's wrong with their movies and doing them better."
Hollywood is run by the identity politics cult.
Imagine if the film was about Indy and Marion joining Mutt on his own adventure? They'd travel to China in the middle of the Cold War, assisting a contact who turns out to be a grown-up Short Round.
Well that wouldn't promote messages of female empowerment, you see. So it's not fit for the modern audience, or something
It’s funny. That suggestion probably would’ve pissed a lot of people off a few years ago. But at this point, it actually sounds nice.
Hey now that would have pissed of the CCP for sure so no way lol Take a look at Red Fawn... oh shit I meant Red Dawn 2012.
@@jessewells1671 Ah yes, the film where North Korea somehow becomes a superpower, and nobody notices?
@timesnewlogan2032 exactly if they'd have paid attention to the game Homefront they could have gotten it to at least make more sense lol. The funny thing was it was supposed to be China but uhm yeah you could imagine how the CCP felt and no self depreciating production company would let that happen.
The saddest part is Indy is one of the most revered classic characters, and whilst I felt the reputation was still upheld after Crystal Skull, this movie was an insult to Indy, it would’ve been a fine ending with his marriage to Marion at the end of the last one.
That was one of the angriest “go away now” sign offs ever. Well deserved, Disney.
I thought it was contrived. Seriously. I encourage The Drinker to put more feeling into it, like it's for real.
GO AWAY NOW: an unbridled rage.
My toughts exactly, he's seriously angry now.
Yep.
I like how he had a deeply sad "Go away now" for the Rise of Skywalker, replaced now by a severely pissed off one.
For once, that “Go away now.” wasn’t for us.
It was for Disney.
At this point it's hard to say who has done more damage to Lucasfilm....George Lucas himself with the shitty prequels and Crystal Skull, or Disney with the sequels + Dial Of Destiny.
@@xuvial1391 One wanted to tell stories that expanded the scope of what the franchises could be and also expand the medium by pushing it forward. You may not always agree with his choices but there was sincere artistic merit to always try new things that didn't walk all over what came before. They were also very personal in the case of Star Wars as if you know where to look it tells his life story. Temple of Doom too. The other wants to bank on your nostalgia while making safe calculated rehashes that also regress legacy characters. It's not that hard to see the difference as it may seem. Also, don't forget Spielberg was part of making Crystal Skull too.
Yeah, but its mostly for Kathleen K.
@@xuvial1391I plead to disagree with the point on the prequels. The prequels by no way were “shitty films”. Their backstory of anakin skywalker and most of everything else was done perfectly, the only issue the prequels had was George Lucas and his flawed ability of writing dialogue
@@xuvial1391 really nothing to complain about when it comes to lucas, prequels and crystal skull, though flawed, have intelligent and psychically responsible messaging.
I'm British-Italian, and on both sides of my family (from York in the British side and from the South in the Italian side), I have had grandparents and uncles who lived until they were 100 years old. All of these people, until their last day, were incredibly proud individuals, always full of energy. They were never sad, depressed, or anything like that Indiana Jones character. Beyond my family, I know thousands of elders who have much more energy than me, a bloody millennial who finds it hard to get up from their chair. They were shaped by the Second World War, and they never lost their characteristic pride and energetic lifestyle when facing life. So this notion of old, depressed people like Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker doesn't hold up at all. Maybe a better script would be an older character who demonstrates much more courage and resilience than a bunch of kids who can only play with their smartphones, myself included. And just because the authors are Americans doesn't mean they should have the idea of "depressed old people," because many of the old Americans I've met are just as hardcore as the European ones.
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I've also seen old people who were full of vitality and were very impressive, it's so heartwarming. And then a tragedy befalls them and they change completely. That happens all the time too. Not everyone is happy-go-lucky. Depression is okay and real.
@@Dilmahkana I believe that elder depression is influenced by many factors. One common factor is when they feel excluded from society and forgotten by their family and those around them, or when they are treated poorly as if they have been discarded after a lifetime of use. However, if an elderly person remains active by engaging in activities such as playing chess, reading, creating art or small crafts, or taking care of their home, they can maintain their well-being until their last day of life. Perhaps what you're referring to is the fatigue that elderly individuals often experience before passing away, rather than depression. It's been observed that people tend to become sad, tired, and disinterested in interacting with the world as they approach the end of their lives. However, this fatigue is primarily due to a worn-out body, and it differs significantly from the feeling of true depression, where a person feels disconnected from the world, utterly useless, and abandoned by society.
@@helmort yup. And I believe Indy felt that... Not a stretch at all. People aren't consistent across time, why should he be?
Bull. You're just a Disney shill. Go worship your mouse master
So true!! I interview patients into their 90’s and they truly inspire me with their optimism, enthusiasm and gusto for life! It’s really so awesome and cool to think, many of them lived happy lives and still enjoy exercising, their spouses and have just a good sense of humor about life. This is what Indiana Jones character should have been. Not weak, futile and naive. How in the world does this tall female know 1/10 the wisdom that he does?! The movie would’ve been better if he taught her a lesson or two. Thank you for your comment!
As someone who does creative writing for a hobby, I have to say: these films make me realize what NOT to do when creating a story and forming characters. (It's disappointing to see that modern entertainment is showing me the things I should NOT do when it comes to creative storytelling. That's just sad.) The critique from channels like this one also help to see what makes these films so... icky. It makes me reflect on the choices I've made in my own works so that I don't make the same mistakes. So... yikes.
Crap like this is why suspense writer Dean Koontz won't let Hollywood near his novels. They fuck up a wet dream.
@@johntiggleman4686 There was a period of my life where I was hoping the books and comics I've read would get some sort of adaptation, these days I just pray everyone ignores my darlings.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made” -J.R.R. Tolkien.
I was proud as punch after I'd been saying this for a while, then I found out it was a Tolkien quote.
😊
@@writingonthewall3326 Its a perfect description of the rabid Marxist feminist matriarchy of incompetence, divisiveness, and hate that has destroyed everything from education to entertainment....
A bit like the far left if you think about it
It isn't a Tolkein quote.
This isn't actually a Tolkien quote. It's a paraphrase from TV Tropes.
Lucasfilm’s ruined every single franchise they get their hands on, and at this point, I support them closing permanently.
So I forgot to mention:
czcams.com/video/EZTY1L1T4xQ/video.html
Permanently.
Nah Disney will just make them a walking corpse
It’s Disney and their woke culture that destroyed all our great franchises .... Star Wars and now Indiana Jones to name a few... not Lucas film
Cancel culture!
Saw this movie this evening... my God you're spot on!! To me the most insulting part of the strong female character was somehow knowing what was best for Indy at the end when he made it 110% clear it was his decision to stay in past". Then she's all "no, I know better because... reasons". I think that would have served as a better ending to the Indy saga. But nooooo.....
If they had done that it would have completely erased the possibility of them dredging up indiana jones' violated body for another movie.
He should have made a choice to go back. Instead he gets punched out and it turns into a joke with an abrupt ending.
Have you heard of the butterfly effect?
Yes, Indy’s an independent man. He don’t let no woman tell him what to do.
One thing I really liked about the cars 3 movie was taht although the new female character that came in to help out the male lead find his hights again is a great talent in of herself. The movies still made it clear taht his experiences are very valuable and you can really feel his knowledge and skill that has built up over the years. Crazy how cars 3 did it better than the majority of box office movies these days.
The girl boas theme is still the same and its just incredibly tiresome at this point.
@@Chris-es3wf I just explained how it wasn't the same, but sure.
The smug expression that is always on Phoebe Waller's face and the sad, tired face of Harrison Ford, says it all.
True I guess
Says it all your right
That's how she always is, even in interviews and on the red carpet
it really does
Is it just me or Fleabag's smug and uppity face seems like it begs to be slapped?
One of the reasons I absolutely love Top Gun: Maverick is that they didn't make Pete a washed up, depressed husk of a man. They made everything he used to be, but seasoned from experience.. ya know, like a real person.
yeah but we are not on about Top Gun Maverick are we ..so that is pretty fucking irrelevant innit ..jeeze
AND fulfilled their propaganda objectives for the military industrial complex.
Not bad.
@@kittyhawk9707 completely relevant. Contrasting Disney's now trademarked destruction of a beloved character by making him a withered husk of his former self with Paramount's source-material-respecting approach of making him jaded but competent and still able to teach the up-and-comers a thing or three.
Or did you just want me to say "Drinkers tone at the end made it clear he's fed up" like half the other people here.
@@beingsshepherd you must be a lot of fun at parties.
@@superglue46 Rebellion is square now?
Is saluting flags cool in your book?
I like to think that there's an unused ending somewhere where Indy stays in the past and at the end Marion, mourning his disappearance, attends a museum showing of the discovery of an 'ancient hero' lost to time and sees the hat and realises that it's Indy. It would bring the whole series full circle because Indy himself would 'belong in a museum' and become a key part of history that he loves so much.
The worst part of the film for me was the end, when Indy decides to stay in the past and 'strong female character' takes his choice away and knocks him out, deciding for him. Having an abrasive, unlikeable woman with no positive qualities force Indy to make a major life decision against his will is the biggest disgrace of the film. Indy is a man who always makes his own choices, for better or worse and that was the most unforgivable part of this film for me, which did have some good moments and overall could have been better than Crystal Skull by a longshot.
bring likes to this point
The ending wasn't good but the whole movie was pretty bad and that ending still wouldn't have saved it
Jesus Christ, watch the movie again, but this time without your political specs on. Not every movie that comes out nowadays is going to push the message, and that applies to Disney products too.
You have to at least try to live in the moment, and not make everything about politics.
@@gavinvales8928 You're just plain wrong here, narratively the film is absolutely pushing that agenda, just not as overtly as in other films. Just because you can't see how they're doing it doesn't mean others cant.
@@gavinvales8928 It's still a boring movie with bad CGI action and a least 30 mins too long.
I enjoyed the beginning and the ending. The travel through time. That paranormal event that is in every Indiana Jones movie. It's magical. But I was bored during the middle. I really liked that Marion came back. Call me sentimental.
Couldn't agree more
Asking for a strong female character to have an arc is like asking a modern feminist to be nice to men.
Unless your spider Gwen
Impossible, because both require some effort.
It it takes effort, it's oppressive and sexist
@@samueloughton8890ikr thank god for spiderverse
Subject a strong female character to character-building adversity? Absolutely _haram_
The only strong female character with an arc is Joan of Arc.
It's insane to think that Kathleen Kennedy's entire claim to fame is that she was in the room when some guys were being creative, but here we are.
Probably when these guys were being creative in Epstein Island...
And both George and Spielberg used to laugh at her ideas Allegedly
I love how The Drinker, says the writers aren't creators. This is coming from the HACK who ripped off the Bourne books and Tom Clancy. You understand that Kennedy doesn't write, star , direct or actually do anything besides put money towards the project, correct?
@@KaelegoSoul with how movies under her going, I think they did, for a reason.
She must have SO MUCH DIRT on these Hollywood execs to still be here 30 years later cranking out money-losing DIRGE! She's like a movie industry version of Ghislaine Maxwell ffs
Dungeons and Dragons was great fun. Really unexpected. That movie deserved much better
That movie was garbage too
My son turned me in the cinema when Shaw punched Indy. He said “why did she do that?”.
Poor kid, I didn’t have the heart to tell him the truth, nor would he understand.
You should have said "Because this movie was produced by a spiteful ugly old bitch" and maybe he'd have understood
Helena Shaw was so damn annoying in that movie, I just felt like bashing my skull into the seat infront of me everytime she speaks.
I’m coming to the conclusion that destroying beloved franchises is part of some sort of psychological warfare.
A good point. It's called a post-modernist and big blockbuster interpretation. Creativity and being daring. What is that?
It's the same Marxist from Berlin 1930's doing this.
Its also marxism.
Almost as if destroying men was part of a coordinated plan...
@@matthewrichmond4139 I’m being flippant, but the film industry has been used for purposes other than mere entertainment in the past. In the same way we see historical figures smeared, statues toppled etc, I wonder if destroying iconic masculine heroes of the big screen is an extension of the current post-truth western paradigm
at this point KK's self casting of a young brunette woman in every movie about a male protagonist, is definite proof that she's really salty about her years as a bad looking assistant who's been a side character all her life and now she's out for revenge on... fans ? lol
What’s with so many self-insert characters for women these days? This is the type of shit that wouldn’t be excusable as writing after elementary school.
I love how The Drinker, says the writers aren't creators. This is coming from the HACK who ripped off the Bourne books and Tom Clancy.
@@monotech20.14hahahah and what exactly have you done?
Literally just projecting
Hey now…maybe Mono was one of the writers for DoD?
I had a glimpse of hope watching the first 15mins of this movie until the strong female character appeared and it was all downhill from there. You are spot on, the modern film studios are not creators but destroyers.
I'll tell you one thing they really screwed up, was when and how they revealed that Mutt had died. Now don't get me wrong - I was no fan of that character in Crystal Skull. However, they misled us to believe that Indy was a depressed alcoholic due to separation with Marion. That is out of character for Indy, and it just didn't make sense. Later, in a very indirect and offhanded way it was finally revealed to us that Mutt died in the military. They could have made a much more compelling plot narrative out of it if handled right. Something like this...
Mutt died, we find out right when we jump forward to 1969.
Marion has separated from Indy. It is revealed to us later in the movie that Marion found out Indy had half the Antikythera mechanism, and that it was rumored to allow time travel. Marion, having experienced many supernatural things in the previous movies, totally believed that it could, and that Indy should devote all his energy to finding the other half. Indy did not believe it, and thought it was a bunch of BS, so he would not go after it. Marion was so hurt and enraged that she separated from Indy. She nearly goes mad (in place of Phoebe's dad) researching and hunting the mechanism for that reason. Even though she doesn't blame Indy for Mutt's death, she is just as upset with him for not doing everything he can to try and undo it.
Phoebe in this movie is unredeemable, almost exactly like Dr. Elsa Schneider in Last Crusade. She has a kind of child like innocence, naivety and lack of moral compass that leads her down almost the same plot path. Phoebe sets things in motion, through her knowledge that Indy has half the Antikythera, and she manages to steal it from him. Now Indy has no choice but to get it back, and in the process of the adventure it leads him to the other half. He also encounters Marion, in a very similar situation as in Raiders - she is in some foreign country, scraping by a living, after having run out of money and being stranded. They use the Antikythera device, and just like in the film they travel to the wrong time. However, Phoebe gets left behind and eventually dies thousands of years in the past. Indy tries to save her, but can't, and she's gone forever.
Indy and Marion now understand the flaw of the Antikythera device, and with that knowledge they successfully go back in time to save Mutt. They manage to talk him out of enlisting. Then, in the final emotional climax of the film, when Indy and Marion return to the future they find that Mutt is still dead - he has died of some other cause. They realize that they cannot change fate, and no matter what they do Mutt is destined to die in the past.
Or if you want, it's all a happy ending and when they come back to the present time, Mutt is alive and well.
I showed my 7 year old son the Indiana Jones trilogy while he was off school this week with tonsillitis. He loved them and asked if there were any more Indiana Jones movies to watch. I said "no, just the trilogy".
I laughed at this…but in a sad way. But glad he loved the trilogy. I still remember leaving the drive-in after Raiders and being in awe.
"anything else with the name is but a sad impersonation"
for if he sees any outside the trilogy and asks why you didn't tell him about them ;)
Good. That was the right thing to do. Like not telling them Santa Clause etc is not real. He will find out in his own time and way. There are only 3 Indy movies. The other two were made years too late and for the wrong reasons and it shows. Your clever white lie means he can enjoy the Indiana Jones stories as we all did back in the 80s without them being ruined. When he is older he can make up his mind if he wants to see the two belated bad films. If he wants more Indy, get hold of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. He will enjoy those and learn something of history and world into the bargain.....without knowing he is being taught and keeping it fun....the best way to educate a child in my book....
The same way with my boys and star wars. They can discover the wreckage on their own voyage in life. I like the movie magic being there, and that they have a connection to these older films.
The kingdom of the crystal skull was actually pretty good. In my opinion, to me, it ended the series perfectly he gets married, and all
The time travel concept of this movie is FAR more believable than two 70 year olds getting divorced in the 1960's.
TRUE like where would Marion be, Nepal?
Lol :D
Solid observation.
My great grandparents got divorced in their 80's during the 1970's.
@@IdealUser I don't believe you, but if they did, it was your fault.
Two missed opportunities I thought surrounding Helena.
1, her father should have been Marcus Brody. And by the trailers, I thought Toby Jones was playing a young Brody. It would have tied her in better with Indy.
2. Maybe instead of Helena, the sidekick could have been a grown up Shorty. The kid who was the sidekick on his first adventure, comes back as an adult, down on his luck, and resorts to robbing his old friend of a priceless artifact to sell at an auction. Indy refuses to believe that Shorty is capable of such a thing and comes back as a friend and father figure to Shorty. Then at the end, Shorty is the one who refuses to let his adopted dad go, and reunites Indy and Marion.
I watched the movie listening to the score, could be one one of the last John Williams scores. Many of the scenes would have fallen flat without music, JW did a wonderful job as usual, with subtlety, fun and nuance. He kept the old Indy alive like an IV drip.😊
I thought the score was quite uninspired really. Nothing like the marriage of movie and score in RoTLA
I'm impressed with Kennedy's ability for the Indiana Jones series. It took a few years for her to destroy Star Wars, but it only took one movie to fully bury the Indiana Jones series.
and i say fully because Crystal Skull was the series getting into a fatal car accident
It's really not all that impressive actually, when Last Jedi come out, people still have hope that Lucasfilm could make the next movie better
But after many failure, people just don't trust Lucasfilm anymore. Indiana 5 got released by the time Lucasfilm at their worst, so people are already have many doubt about it even before it come out
Remember that South Park episode where George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg raped Indiana Jones after the premiere of Crystal Skull? Now replaced both of them with Disney and Kathleen Kennedy for this movie.
@@ngoclamtruong5033 it was slow, but impressive imo. It takes balls to take something like Star Wars and misuse it constantly to make many crappy movies and shows to the point that Star Wars no longer excites many people.
Learning by doing. I guess.
Indiana jones was a tenured professor for over 30 years and his father was also educated and would have left him a sizeable amount of money after he passed away. How exactly is Indiana jones left broke living in a low rent apartment?
I guess Marion took all of Indy's money after the divorce.
@@sr.alligator7569 You can't complain about that mate, she got grocery for him, remember?
Rich white professor isn’t as relatable as broke white alcoholic professor?
Maybe he misgendered someone and had to pay the lawsuit...
Spent all his money on all his expeditions. I mean some of the locations were wild even for a man living in the 1940s.
Makes me appreciate kingdom of the crystal skull even more
Just went to see the film yesterday and was a bit skeptical going into this video. However I’m really surprised that nearly every point you made is completely spot on to what I was feeling.
The train scene at the start WAS the best part of the film, there were way too many boring car chases, how did Waller know where they were in Crete? The little Spanish boy WAS just another attempt at recreating Short Round, Indie should have just stayed in the past in the ending…
Also that scene where Indie knocks over all the pots in the storeroom seems really out of character, and it’s weird that he only uses the whip once during the film where I can think of a dozen occasions in Morocco where I would have come in handy?
The only thing I disagree with is that Wombat isn’t as bad as you made her out to be (even though her character motivation keeps changing after the boat scene). Also I think the sudden personality shift of Dr Jones is justified considering Mutt died in Vietnam (at least I think that’s what they said, I can’t remember if they mentioned him dying or not)
Also the other bad guys were actually really cool, especially the big burly guy.
Overall I think it’s better than Crystal Skull, but not as good as the OT
I took my 84 year old grandpa to see this movie. He loves action movies and I used to watch the original Indiana Jones movies with him as a kid. I didn't read or watch any reviews before going so I didn't have any expectations. We both really enjoyed this movie. I don't understand the hate, even after watching the review. Especially about the Wombat character and Indiana Jones' character. I agree with you that Indy changed because his son died and his wife left. Life lost its flavor and he gets a taste for it again at the end of the movie. For me, Temple of Doom remains the worst Indiana Jones movie. Billie's whining and screaming is unbearable the entire film. For this movie, my grandpa and I enjoyed seeing the old characters and enjoyed the action sequences. My grandpa was very amused when Indy was struggling with physical limitations due to age. The only bit I thought was boring was when the characters met Archemides.
Agree with the part of him knocking down the artefacts in the storeroom. He's literally an archeologist who loves history!!
Kathleen Kennedy is like a little child playing with it's father's train collection. It doesn't know what it has, and it throws it in the corner when it's finished playing.
I forgot to mention:
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This is accurate
A cruel and bratty child, at that. When her father tries to teach her about the trains, she spits on him, insists she knows better, and breaks parts to spite him.
The scene of Toy Story 3 where the toys get mistreated summerizes what Kathleen Kennedy did to the Star Wars franchise
And picks up a new train to screw with.
“Some men just want to watch the world burn.” Kathleen Kennedy is that man.
Manchild more like 😂
😂😂😂
You do mean BRock and VGaurd, right?
😂
I enjoyed the movie quite a lot Loved the history
I went to the theater with no expectations and still ended up disappointed. I can’t believe people are saying this is better than kingdom of the crystal skull. I’m like REALLY? This makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like the Last Crusade. At least Indiana Jones was the Indy we knew and loved in the 4th. He doesn’t even fight in the 5th movie. He gets some hits in but mostly he gets overpowered by everyone else. I get it he’s old but that’s the point. Indy was watchable because he was an adventurer that was always in way over his head but was able to come out on top because he could handle himself. The younger Indy would easily make quick work with the villains in the 5th film by himself.
Don’t forget the German WW2 bomber conveniently hidden at the local airport for the finale.
“And they talk about the male ego” 100% !!
I actually just saw these movies in a completely new way.
They are Kathleen’s fantasy of George Lucas being a wasted old man and her taking his place as a powerful and refreshing female. She must have been building up resentment about not being as good as him over years and years. He was so good and she wasn’t, she couldn’t cope with it. So she imagined herself as perfect and him as a loser, and that’s what we see playing out on screen over and over. These new movies are her psyche forced onto old franchises. Amazing insight Drinker.
Well said
I was asking myself "why?" so many times, especially during the Star Wars sequels. Now it suddenly makes sense.
Yep..you said it...hit the nail on the head..
@@MarVIogs She owes him everything yet gives nothing back. Oh well, I just hope Lucas and Spielberg were dicks for her to work with and had their fun. If they were nice to her then it's doubly fucked up.
Makes you wonder if he slapped her butt in 1984 or something
F is for Females replacing icons.
A is for Aimless filler.
I is for Inflated budgets.
L is for Losing touch with reality.
U is for Uninspired plots.
R is for Rampant cringe.
E is for Egotistical directors.
What's that spell? DISNEY!
A bad acronym?
Dire
Insipid
Soulless
Nepotism
Everything's
Yucky
ok the end could do with some work
True
I sang read that in spongebobs voice.
amen
Dial of Destiny’s ending makes me long for how Kingdom of the Crystal Skull ended.
I would really like to see a comparison of how this movie treats "old age" or deconstructing legacy characters with Logan, which was brutal with Wolverine and Dr.X, turning their defining traits against them, dreams crushed and looking only to hide away until death. yet they didn't mock the characters
Ironic considering James Mangold directed both.
I feel like a character like Indiana Jones wouldn't end up a bitter lonely old man considering his life experience in these franchises.
I guess killing his son might do that to him but what a terrible, unnecessary, and depressing choice.
He wouldn't - but the powers that be feel compelled to portray White men in any negative light that is humanly possible. No different to the garbage ads where White men are mere buffoons.
@@MichaelJM all because they didn't wanna bring back shia Labeouf
@@noneofyourbusiness1114or cast someone else in his place.
@@noneofyourbusiness1114 Yeah it's crazy. There's no reason they couldn't just have his adult son living his own life off screen.
Kathleen Kennedy is an inspirational woman. She proves that you don’t have to have any talent, skill, awareness or creativity to still thrive at the top of an industry bravo.
Well said!
Well if anything, she is showing that "women can do it too!"
Turns out the only skill you need to have is an enhanced sense of entitlement and wokeness.
So true. Clearly I should stop trying or working hard and just mess up constantly, maybe my career will improve.
Ha! Women *drinks coffee*
If the Drinker is wondering can Hollywood still continue an established franchise today he should watch Confess, Fletch. A not great movie but still decent enough to leave the hero intact in an era of mass castration.
They manage to update the character for modern times without turning him into a walking wimp. Jon Hamm has fun with his role and the movie is moderately entertaining.
No MeToo references that I could remember.
Couldnt agree more.. But I don’t know how you made it through the all film. This world needs to hire the original writers from the 80s and 90s
“They’re not creators, they’re destroyers.” So true. I hope this is the movie that gets Kathleen Kennedy fired.
Too late already. The damage is done.
They know exactly what they're doing as to why they're making films like this. It's simply malice.
That's Marxism for you
No, I still want her to execute her vision of rey training other jedi coz i want even more disparu content
Kathleen Kennedy likes to GUT heroes of the past. I dunno why or who hurt her, but I'm guessing it was someone who was angry at her purposely breaking their nicest stuff.
This looks like a $5 market movie, you know the ones that are brought in sleeves, because Disney no longer sells physical media in Australia any more.
The only thing that would save this movie would be an arrow in Helen's neck for interrupting Archimedes and telling men what to do. I would rewatch it daily at the movies and give it 10/10 ratings.
That closing "Go away now" was from the soul.
Well done, Kathy. You ruined literally everything you've placed your nasty little fingers on.
Came to say that. I heard a lot of pain in it and I fully concur. Dammit
Absolutely spot on. Its like a direct message to Disney
@@howaboutno7959all it is now is dust and echoes. That’s it. There’s no stone left unturned, all that it is now is a grave yard of were once great franchises have been drained and left to rot.
That last line when he says that when they run out of things to destroy, that we'd be next, sent shivers down my spine.
@@wonkabars6982 you know what, I think I’ve finally figured it out. This whole situation with Disney reminds me of Halo Reach. Both are similar but different, in that in Reach, your efforts where futile but you tried to save the planet. With Disney, however, they did the opposite, in that they purposely glassed their beloved ips for vain brown points and the “modern audience”, but ended up killing the very golden eggs that gave them success in the first place
I can't get over the incredibly poignant metaphor of dragging Indiana Jones out of the past, where he was comfortable and wanted to die, into the modern age where he is miserable, soulless, and depressing.
If that isn't modern Hollywood I don't know what is.
Bro seemed genuinely happy and satisfied with staying in the past, but then they just had to pull the typical “time travel trope” where changing the past can have dire consequences even though he’s on the brink of death and can’t really do much. I feel so bad for Jones 😢 and I hope that dictator Kathleen Kennedy can soon face consequences for ruining some of the best movie series of all time
I watched Raider and the Last Crusade for the second time like two weeks ago.
They have aged fine. Action scenes and humor still stands up, which is all that matters for films like these. Indiana Jones is in it's core is like a more heroic take on the basic pulp formula of adventure man going to exotic location to plunder artifacts.
Making a film with that kind of formula these days is hard. First of all the Indiana Jones title wasn't passed on when Harrison Ford was young, so the namesake role is attached to an actor who is too old to do actual action scenes. Second, in the current year you have all sorts of harpies screeching about colonialism and racism and what have you if you do a movie about a white guy ransacking ethnic dungeons. And then you have the usual feel of films made by a committee that modern Disney is so notorious of and overabundant use of CGI, which ages a lot less gracefully than properly done scenes on set.
@@kafukamuraThe sequels weren’t the best thing ever but don’t try to act like Star Wars wasn’t already ruined by the prequels
Having Indy stay in the past would’ve been a history-altering event that could lead to a terrible outcome. And he’s not going to be miserable anymore now that his wife’s back.
@@someangrypotato7197 tell me the point flew over your head without telling me the point flew over your head.
this movie makes kingdom of the crystal skull seem infinitely better
After watching this at the cinema my first thought was "I kinda wish they made the whole movie like the first 15 mins".... Temple was a prequel. So could this have been and hence we could all stick to riding into the sunset is the end of the FOUR Indy movies.
It's weird how most of us are more excited to watch the Drinker destroy these movies than the actual movies themselves.
In a clown world, this isn't weird, it's relief!
It's not weird, it is only natural at this point.
how does he destroy them. he bitches an moans about films that are going to be bad anyway. i dont get the praise this guy gets.
@@paulelroy6650imple, because he's telling the truth about modern movies and how they suck nowadays, we literally have to watch CZcamsrs like Drinker because of how Critics will hate or like anything, and audiences are split towards movies... Granted sometimes Drinker isn't always right but I'll take someone who sees cinema for being what it is instead of how others describe and want it to be
That's the truth, I enjoy Drinker's analysis of modern movies way more than the movies themselves. The analysis at least has some meaning.
The Indiana Jones franchise ended with The Last Crusade in 1989. Indy, Henry, Sallah, and Marcus rode off into the sunset like legends.
I’ll die on that hill.
Correct. That was the ending Indy deserved.
Life is better that way. It just is.
We don’t go to movies anymore… that’s what Disney wanted right?
4:30 this is the second major review that I've seen get this wrong. The movie makes it clear that there are only two possible locations of Archimedes's tomb: Sicily or Greece. The boat is headed in the direction of Sicily, so of course Voller knows Indy is headed to Syracuse.
At least Crystal Skull gave Indy a satisfying, happy ending to cap stone the series. He married the woman he loved, he has a capable and honorable son to enjoy his life with. This tears it apart
No way, because it fits the character isn't it? Just think about it. Harrison had a great time making the movie, he wanted to do it. This was a last adventure, and we should take it this way, ofc it's not better than any previous ones, maybe except Crystal Skull.
More like return to the recliner and fall asleep with the paper on top of you. Your son has forgotten you and your wife died last year. You can't knock the top off of rice pudding never mind hardened criminals. Now that film is called reality.
@@tothbence7436We should just lie down and accept shitty stories? No thank you.
@@DriveupLife22bro imma be honest I hate the woke shit in Hollywood as much as anyone but this wasn’t anywhere near as bad as bro made it out to be
Stop acting like there were more than three Indiana Jones movies.
That was the most palpably angst-filled, soul wrenching "Go Away Now" he's ever made. I totally empathize Drinker.
Agree. I think its because we all loved Indy. And it hurts more to see a franchise trashed when it's a character you loved! The What Ifs are endless.
*He needs a Drink.*
I was going to leave the same comment lol, look at the end of his velma review, it was the last time I heard go away now with such gusto.
that wasnt angst, that was "go away or i might cave in your skull" pure rage
"soul wrenching 'go away now!'" is what I walked away with also.
There was quite some pinache in that summary which was ultimately liberal Hollywood's report card which is a fail on a 15-point grading scale (the same one North Carolina uses).
I thought Drinker was quite generous with that one. I didn't even think the beginning was good.
To quote Black Adder...it started badly...tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end the better.
Drinker, you master of analysis, I think you should rewatch Indy and the Crystal Skull. I think you’ll be surprised how it’s not as bad as we all remember. I think it would be cool to see the side by side comparison of character arcs between crystal skull and dial of destiny.
As @TheCriticaIDrikner once said: . If there’s a silver lining to this shit-storm, it's that the scale of Kennedy's incompetence only underscores the superiority of all the movies she tried so hard to bury and upstage. Working with less money, more primitive technology and fewer resources, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg achieved something she'll never ever equal - a legacy to be proud of.
The sad thing is that in her social circle she as well has achieved something praised and held in high regard… destroying landmark franchises of male identification.
She's Lucas' legacy.
Did all of you forget all the movies she executive produced that you people claim as better than this? She was responsible for the first three films. You remember that, right?
@@ZiddersRooFurry Yeah about that. Good joke.
@@ZiddersRooFurry Executive producer! She basically got coffee for Steven and George.
The last shot of this video says it all. The iconic closing of Last Crusade with Indy, his dad and the others riding into the sunset. That's the Indy I will remember. We didn't see him age out, and we didn't need to. He was just Indiana goddamn Jones, whip-toting, snake- hating treasure hunter. Forever.
Fortune and Glory
@@charlesdowda3850 Thanks to disney, now it's actually both the years and the mileage;
Henry Jones: calm down Jr.
Indiana Jones: stop calling me that!!
Indi's friend: what's with this Jr.?
Henry: that's his name Henry Jones Jr.
Indiana Jones: I like the name Indiana.
Henry: we called the dog Indiana.
Indi's friend: (laughing) a dog? You named yourself after a dog? (laughing)
Indiana Jones: I had fond memories of that dog.
But this is pure fiction. It's a fantasy, a delusion and story we tell ourselves time and time again, to repress thinking of mortality and death. I like that our childhood Hero's are deconstructed to the point where we see their fragility, because that is what we are. It is grounded in reality.
@@RoseJetExhaust If that's what you want to get out of it, I can certainly respect that view, and you are correct. Of course it's fiction, that's the whole point, movies are a form of escapism. It's not necessary to see Indy, or Han Solo or some other classic swashbuckling hero, to always be seen later as this downtrodden, sad old man whose life went to shite. Couldn't he just be chilling happily with Marion when adult Short Round shows up to beg for his help rescuing some Chinese artifact for reasons? I'd be right on that. I'm just saying every film doesn't need the harsh reality of life. We've got enough of that already lol.
It's almost hilarious how current content creators in Disney underestimates their audience. Being a fan of something means that when you are a kid, your classmates are mocking you from the first class for not playing football with them and instead heading to a comics shop, library or just home to read and watch and play with action figures. Than you are a teenager and instead of trying to look cool and be the most popular a-hole wearing the latest fashion and listening to crappy music in a hope of attracting the most wanted exemplars of opposite sex you stand your ground, your moral principles and keeping your authenticity following your own dreams and sticking to what you always loved. And than you are an adult and all your surroundings is trying to drag you down to the bland greyness of what they think is normal and appropriate for a grown person. And you as a fan still stand tall, sticking to what you always loved and not giving a damn about what is proper, normal and expected.
So basically being a fan means for the whole life you walk against the wind and staying upright while everything around you is trying to bend you to their own image and projection. Fans are hardened people who never lost their compass and never gave up their inner child. And to those people, hardened by facing a constant opposition and used to stand their ground no matter what, their are trying to inject their mindless propaganda and force a political views of people who probably never had to face a single real life peril and their world view is formed by reading a social media of their friends.
Good luck with that, Disney!
Watching John Williams conducting "Raiders March" at 90 gave me infinitely more chills than this entire cash grab
The Drinker suffers through these trainwrecks so we don't have to. The man is a saint.
I’m pouring one for the Drinker tonight for this 🍺
Keeps taking it for the global team. Respect.
Well said 👍🏻 Agreed 👍🏻
All hail the God Drinker of mankind.
KATHLEEN KENNEDY DID IT!
She did a movie that’s worse than The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
So I forgot to mention:
czcams.com/video/EZTY1L1T4xQ/video.html
You might be on to something
High praise indeed!
She's on a mission to destroy Spielberg/Lucas's legacies.
@@LonovavirYour username suggests an imaginary antiviral drug, which is pretty innovative. Love it.
And the point you made is the bottom line. That's the absolute truth..imo, of course.
I would have liked to see Short Round (Ke Huy Quan) carry on the franchise, I thought it would have been the next natural step after he won an Oscar. He has experience with stunts and fight choreography, they could have made something more grounded but also action packed, something that could have had a chance at being interesting.
The sad part is that Hollywood, despite their obsession with "mah diversitay" doesn't have faith an an Asian male lead in an iconic and celebrated franchise, even though Short Round is an iconic character himself.
Sorry, but that's the cold, hard truth.
Brutal but absolutely spot on summation at the end. Not just about this film, but in the broader culture right now.
My father is an old man, and I think he said it best watching the trailer for this:
"They just can't let boys have heroes any more. I don't wonder why. I *know* why."
Wisdom of the ancients.
They here the boys.
He’s right on the money. How old is he… like… 50?
@@miked6288 65.
I don't consider my self pessimistic, but the older I get the more I have to agree with my dad. "Everything you loved growing up turns to shit".
Which sucks so much to actually experience.
Here’s my advice, stop consuming Western media, unless it’s agreed by a large amount of people to be really good, instead look to the East because they have so many stories to tell in many different ways, from live action drama/comedy, to vidja games, to animations, to their better comics. In other words, ignore the west, embrace Japan.
My dad said something very similar once and I just rolled my eyes and said something stupidly condescending.
Sorry Dad!
48 years old and experiencing it too.
My wife and I are about to emigrate to a south-eastern country to live a simpler life there in a year or so from now.
I'm not planning to follow the news much there.
No disappointments about movies and pop culture, no frustration about the LGBTQQ+ community and islam both taking power and suppressing western society, no stupid laws about the environment that makes life seriously difficult and expensive while China is building over 800 coal plants etc etc etc.
Just a simple life with a house on the beach, renting out a few huts to make a living.
@@andrewpresley8676whats sad is western media USED to be good. But then the left came and ruined our society
@@MarcelNLwestern society was good until people started becoming woke
Yay! We all asked for an 80 year old Indiana Jones. Can't wait until they make Wizard of Oz with an 80 year old Dorothy.
As a Greek I want to say a bravo to Harisson for his excellent greek at the end....She couldn't really make any sense and the ancient greek was weird. But Harisson nailed it!
Jesus christ, the broken male hero again? Imagine what top gun 2 would've been like if Disney was making it? Though I doubt Tom Cruise would allow himself to be humiliated like that also.
probably be in a zimmer frame and the made up inserted daughter of his old flame from the first movie would magickly be 10x better than him in the cockpit I reckon
Wouldn't you rather see a Top Gun 2 in which Maverick isn't the hero super-pilot that we remember, but rather gaslit into thinking he's a washed up never-was, upstaged in fighter aviation by an obese African American lesbian with a fade haircut, that's somehow an immediately better & flawless pilot, even though she's never flown any plane before in her life?
It sucks because 15 years ago they treated Indiana Jones right. I know a lot of people hate Crystal Skull but atleast Indie was still kicking ass as an old guy and wasn’t a broken man who was miserable to watch.
This movie is yet another example of JRR Tolkien's quote to be true....
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
For the past few years, the evil ones have been insisting that they are tearing it all down so that they can "build back better".
The world isn't better.
That quote explains the reason why everything in the world is falling apart.
Literary/Artistic Necromancy, the idea of re-embodying the message of the original writer or creator with intent to pervert/distort/re-imagine their original work.
Evil corrupts. And they blame on the corrupted. Then the corrupted becomes evil. Whole cycle begins anew.
@@_billy.mandalay to them that just means they need to tear down even more
Jar-Jar Abrams and his fetch-quest school of "writing". A gift that just keeps giving.
At 8 min, regarding the kid being able to fly, when we are first introduced to him in the film, he's learning how to fly from a pilot. They are sitting at a table, and the pilot is explaining to the kid on what he needs to do, while the kid is using random items to look like airplane controls. Im not saying it's in any way realistic and believable, I'm just explaining as to why she asks him if he can fly the plane. She knows he has been practicing on how to fly planes.
>>while the kid is using random items to look like airplane controls
After everything I heard I was shocked that I was seeing so many people on social media say the movie was good. But then I noticed they all had pronouns in their bio, and everything made sense.
I forgot to mention:
czcams.com/video/EZTY1L1T4xQ/video.html
Gooooodd daaaamnnn
Pronouns are present, opinions rejected
Either that, or someone was paying them to talk so much praise. Or someone just has so many fake accounts and is writing the praise itself.
I have zero pronouns and me and my other not woke friend loved it,Im 51,so its my generations franchise. I liked it. Sorry if you didn't, but don't pigeonhole people who do, dick.
She did it, Kathleen Kennedy finally ruined Indy just like she did with Luke & Han
Will Disney finally fire her…I think not
I forgot to mention:
czcams.com/video/EZTY1L1T4xQ/video.html
Yeah no because Kathleen cares about brownie points and that's it kinda like Disney
She performed her job perfectly & most people are too dumb/naive to see it.
I hope to have her level of job security one day
Not to mention they massacred the story of one of the most important artifacts in mankind's history in the process.
The most facinating aspect of this movie is looking at how miserably the green screen cuts are made. Observing the difference of lighting in the backdrop and the main cast.
Kathleen Kennedy isnt even trying to hide it anymore. She's made it clear that George Lucas's vision for star wars is gone and that we should 'move on'. Sad to see a beloved series me and several others grew up with be destroyed over someone with a personal agenda
The thing is, we did moved on, and are still moving on, to the dismay of Disney shareholders im sure
If it's gone, then it should burn to the ground and to let it rest at least for awhile.
For someone, an actual Star Wars fan who grew up with it + would respect it, to revive it from the ashes down the line(assuming Nukes haven't dropped).
Indiana Jones And The Diarrhoe of Disney 🧻
moving on isn't bad ... it's natual process as we change to become better versions of ourselves.
The problem is that the new thing is not a 'better/improved version' of its predecessor.
Instead we got something that only exists to destroy and hate the very thing that allowed it to exist.
It's only destroyed if people accept it. I'm not even gonna see it. Too bad that most of the money made off this movie is CZcamsrs and podcasters disparaging it for ad revenue
The most angry “go away, now!” ever uttered by the Drinker. I’m sorry my friend. I feel your pain.
You could could realy feel the hatred!
I caught that, too. Almost scared me.
I'm feeling it too.
I was scared and saddened in equal measure.
@@konstantine8054
That’s a good way to put it. I’m sure he’s tipping up the bottle a few extra times cause of this one.
I met a lady friend just yesterday who had seen the Dial of Destiny the day before. She knew nothing about internet posts about the film but loves Harrison Ford. So when asked (without prompting) what she thought about the film she said it was crap (actually more ladylike than that), badly written, confusing and senseless. She also thought Ford was now getting a bit past it (her term) and that she could not stand "that dreadful" woman and thought that the writer got wrong way round and that Indy should have punched her in the face. Now this lady is mid-aged, smart and a film fan so if she thinks this about the D of D what is it that Iger, Kennedy and the others in Disney don't get.
If you need a break from modernity, I highly recommend the original Little House on the Prairie series. It shows the beauty of society before tv/mind control destroyed humanity.
Amazing. They gave Indiana Jones the Luke Skywalker treatment. After they saw how that went down, the horrific backlash, they really thought "yeah, let's do that again!". W A T
It's done on purpose.
The agenda is most important. Everything else is secondary to politics.
If at first political correctness does not succeed, try, try, try, try and so forth.. again..
The mentality is to utilize a form of propaganda; destruction is inevitable and money is easy to obtain.
Why are you comparing a broken Jedi to a professional archeologist? Indiana Jones didn't die or completely lose himself in the fucking fifth movie in the similar vain as Luke Skywalker in Star Wars The Last Jedi! What a load of Nazi propaganda I'm truly witnessing here!!
That was the angriest "Go away now" I've ever heard. In Harrison Ford's defense, you'd be sad, weak, and broken too, if you saw what they were doing to one of your most beloved characters. Why SHOULD he help them make a fool of him? The worst part of this, I have a friend who went and saw it last night. She posted on her Facebook that she was going, and I replied "My condolences. They made a mockery of him". She replied that she enjoyed the movie! I don't know what to say to that, because I don't want to come off like I'm telling her "You're stupid, you don't know what's good, you've been suckered", because then I sound like Disney, telling us the same thing, that we're stupid, and we don't really know what we want or like, and we should just accept NEXT PRODUCT, and ask for more.
_...Why is this tasteless smoothebrain your friend?_
Try not to judge your friend too harshly, she is clearly brain-dead and should only be given sympathy...
You don't NEED to say anything. LOL. Just be content that you learned something new about your friend. Maybe offer to take her to see SOUND OF FREEDOM on July 4th.
The thing about these movies, like the Star Wars sequels, on a surface level they are enjoyable, if you don't think about what you're watching. It's when you think about them and analyse them on a deeper level that you realise how terrible they are and feel the undercurrent of identity politics, misandry and hatred for the source material.
It's possible your friend just enjoyed a bunch of action sequences, without thinking too hard about the plot or characters. That's literally every MCU movie, and look how many people like those (probably including some of the people knocking this Indy movie). They have no characterization and no plot, just a bunch of loosely tied-together action sequences and wisecracks. No wonder Disney thinks the formula can work. I hope someday to watch decent movies again, maybe after the industry finally crashes and burns.
My wife and I just watched this movie today. It gave me gas and was dreadful to watch.
I didn’t get any of the feeling that I got from the original film. Great review man, spot on.
9:59 i heard the emotional damage vine boom sound effect in my head
"Runs like a retarded giraffe" really got a good laugh out of me.
she went to Steven Seagal´s School of Running ^^
Absolutely the best line in the review.
I feel confident in saying that KK has for many years held a grudge if not a hatred of being relegated to working "under" Lucas and Spielberg. Only someone consumed by envy of both their talent and success in the industry would put such effort in destroying their legacy. Only someone with her narcissism would think they could supplant their legacy with her own in such a ham-handed fashion.
For her this all wasn't so much ideological zealotry as it was a more fundamentally base, a personal vendetta.
Perhaps Spielberg's snub could be due to him coming to a similar conclusion.
Let's set the record straight. There was no snub on KK by Spielberg. Stop listening to CZcams idiots who are pushing for clicks and views. We all know the main players for Indy are Spielberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. KK was the coffee runner girl on the first indy set and married into her producing role. She walked on the coattails of great creatives before her to get to where she is at and nothing more. Why would Spielberg ever consider giving her praise for anything creative? Because a CZcams idiot said that she was snubbed in a speech? I must have missed where she created the Indy character by herself or acted out the part or wrote an entire script or directed a film or produced a musical theme for a whole film....actually I've read where she did input her ideas from time to time to Spielberg, all of which were tossed aside because they were terrible ideas.
@@dansanfrisco Oh you are spot on correct about her irrelevancy to the creation of the franchise. Spielberg very likely did not have that as his intent. But it was obvious to anyone watching that SHE felt snubbed. Such is her ego. She's all clapping and smiling until Williams is announced, and her husband tries to pull her off the stage. So the so called idiot has a better take on Hollywood egos than you in my estimation.
@@dansanfrisco Calm down, Kathleen.
What Spielberg snub? Last I heard he was calling people bigots or some if they didn't watched this movie...
@@marbellaotaiza801 That wouldn't surprise me. After all he idiotically decided it would be "disrespectful" to put English subtitles on his remake of "West Side Story". The point is KK felt snubbed. Not that Spielberg intended to snub.
In the movie Teddy says to Helena 'is he running the show now'? And helena replies 'of course not, we are running the show' and the this quote summarise the movie.
That's what I go to see in my adventure films, the crippling realism surrounding old age and loneliness. Yeah he's older and slower but a balance for it could have been found when it came to the stunts and fight scenes but no we have to have him broken, weakened and sad. They could have had him retiring on a high as a success but sad because he thinks his adventure days are behind him which would have been better than what we got.
Yay! Give the audience hell Indy!
He really summed up modern Hollywood with that final line 'they are not creators, they are destroyers'
Satan is rising everywhere. Time to bring god back into this corrupted world
They are by their own admission, though. They're post-modern deconstructionists.
That's anti-semetic don't ya know!
My favorite part is when the nhazi throws bleach on the black character and yells "This is MAGA country" while strong and brave horseface girl flies into the window and punches the villain while shouting "the future is female!", then Harrison Ford fall asleep on the pile of money he got after selling out.
😂😂
Agent Wilson was great, just a little bit naive at the end ...
That may have been the wittiest, funniest damn comment I ever read on the interweb! Can't stop laughing...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stunning and brave comment. You are truly a trailblazer.
I must have been asleep...
An Indy superfan was so excited about going to see this. On the day, she said she had seen reviews and decided to pass.
I’d say you’d still should see the movie for that opening sequence. It has a genuine ‘Indy’ vibe and gives you warm, fuzzy feelings. The rest was only moderately interesting to see how old characters are doing/looking ‘today’, for a few nods to the previous films, and some entertaining action. The opportunity to come up with something new and exciting was completely missed (deliberately?) and it’s quite clear there is no future for this Helena character, despite obvious efforts to pass her off as brilliant, attractive etc.
From a business perspective I'm actually incredibly interested to watch how the next 5 years play out for Disney. They're about to complete implode from self inflicted wounds and I'm here for it.
I dont think that's gonna happen. Maybe it will, but na it won't. disney is one of those companies that can't fail no matter how many shits they can bring out of their arses
@@ronel7836 it almost went bankrupt in the early 90s and the little mermaid and Lion king basically saved them. That's why I said it will be interesting to watch, because it's a pretty sticky situation and will take some major moves to right the ship.
@@EdwardLewisIVBlackrock will bail it out
@@cliverosfield69 The only way that will happen is if BlackRock can find a way to bail them out using OTHER people's money.
@@cliverosfield69, Why? What purpose does it serve to prop up an entity if it continues to uniformly produce films and series which are, in the main, popularly rejected and don't earn a profit?
If the contention is it's for the propagation of disseminating a steady state of indoctrination into whatever malign cabal you may happen to be fixated on, how effective can such propaganda truly be if it's not being watched (repeatedly, at that) by a very large proportion of the pop culture viewing audience?
The Drinker's review is the compensation you get when a movie is utterly terrible and you know you're not going to watch it.
Exactly. I won't watch this garbage movie.
I forgot to mention:
czcams.com/video/EZTY1L1T4xQ/video.html
Well put
there's already been 2 videos saying he wasn't gonna like it anyway, we're all just hate-watching. none of us are watching it.
Yes! I thought the same thing after the boat scene, like they were able to find Indiana simply by looking at the direction they were going in middle of the ocean. I did almost let out a gasp in the theater on that one. The movie was never great, but went down hill quick when they were in the water looking for map. You could predict so easily that while they were underwater the bad guys would show up and of course they did. Everything after that was rubbish except I will say that the very end was one of the few redeeming values of the movie.
I had a totally different take. The movie was all about how the world still needs Indy, even if he does not feel needed. At the beginning, the world has its new heroes in the Apollo 11 astronauts. But Indy is the hero of this flick, having the wisdom to find the artifact. He sees at the end he is very much needed - his wife still needs him. And the final second, where he literally chose not to hang up the hat, tells me that despite Lucasfilm's track record, Indiana Jones is in good hands - only Harrison will ever be Indy and only Indy will ever be Indy.
Hahaha! Good one!
It’s funny how they’ve now made five movies, yet most of us still only think of it as a trilogy.
Funnily enough I don't think KOTCS it too bad, it's just really mediocre. This movie just looks horrendous and Phoebe is insufferable.
Like metallicas catalogue of albums, there was only the first 5 the rest shouldn’t exist
@@CCovers1 and it gave Indi a nice happy ending and wink to the passing of the torch.
Death magnetic is slept on my man, I'm sure you've heard it before but if not try giving it another wirl!
Because it is.
When the people who made it the trilogy are gone then any future movies are noncanonical fan fiction.
"GO. AWAY. NOW." The absolute fury. And I am 100% on board. It's like they know these ideas are going to bomb, and they decide they're going to just do it anyway for the sheer spite of destroying the legacy of the films.
"GO. AWAY. NOW. Or bottles starts flying."
What makes you think they're ruining these franchises accidentally?
Let this video get all the recognition it needs. Because in the end "GO AWAY NOW!" Tells you everything of how god-awful of a studio Lucasfilm is these days.
AND THEY WILL GO AWAY. NOW...
It should be damn clear it's intentional.