Ted Bundy & Ed Kemper vs Zac Efron & Cameron Britton Body Language Comparison
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Netflix is no stranger to adaptations. One of the more popular categories of this is true crime. With that in mind, I am comparing the nonverbal communication of Ted Bundy and Ed Kemper to Zac Efron and Cameron Britton to see what similarities exist and where they differ.
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Yes, the intro is silent. No, I didn't intend on that. Yes, you will have to use your imagination instead this time. Apologies!
Me: *singing the tune anyways*
No worries, I get a banger video either way
😏 sure!
There's somethings that just *sound* in my head even if it's not irl - intro is one of those things! Still all the same enjoyment 😻
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Mindhunter was such a good show. It's a real bummer that Netflix cancelled it.
I agree! It was so good, and so many directions they could have taken it
I wonder why?every person I’ve heard talk about it says it was great and I agree too. Never heard a bad thing about it.
@@classicarah it was my favorite tbh !! Very informative and not over dramatic
It was SO GOOD! but Riverdale gets like 8 seasons 🙄
i was so looking forward to how it would be in the next season. cant understand why they dropped mindhunter 😕
The actors who take on the roles of the serial killers in Mindhunter are so impressive. Brilliantly captured with just a little bit of dramatic choices that enhance the character rather then distract. That show is a masterpiece in all senses of the word
The choice for Charles Manson, Damon Herriman, was good enough for Tarantino in "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood", too!
Yes mindhunter was so good!
Hope David Fincher comes out with the 3rd season soon.
Praying every day they bring this show back. It is one of the best shows Netflix has made
It is! I'm hoping the third season is made :(
This is a fascinating look at body language vs portrayed body language. Definitely would love more like this.
Completely agree with that.
I've always found Kemper fascinating and I couldn't put my finger on it...but you hit it right on the nose where there seems to be this duality of blame for his crimes...that while he definitely understands that he committed these crimes and that he was wrong for committing these crimes that he seems to feel that he was almost fated to commit them and there was nothing he could have done about it. He seems to feel responsible but not at all in control...but then has a sense of contempt and superiority for not getting caught. But all of that seems genuine and that complexity is so fascinating
Ed talks about his murders the way heroin addicts talk about the things they’ve done to get drugs, there is an acknowledgment that their actions were harmful and very wrong but it’s rationalized by that incessant hunger for drugs, and Ed appears to describe an incessant hunger for this ritual of sadistic sexual homicide that he was addicted to.
actually Ed wanted to be catch but police didnt believe him he was their drinking buddy they thought he was joking
what i find the most frightening about ed kemper is how truly calm and conversational he is. if you muted footage of him he looks like he’s just talking about the weather. that to me is chilling to the bone.
When the intro tune is such a banger you can just sing it in your head anyways>
Sadly for me, my friend just played "Into the Hall of the Mountain King" on the piano and that's the only song I can hear right now.
Even though the intro was silent I still heard it in my head lol.
Love your vids as always!
Bundy really has those crazy eyes, and i don't think Zac can really pull those off and creep me out the way Bundy does
Yeah! Too used to seeing him in musicals and romantic comedies 😆 I can't think of him as creepy
They really look dead and blank to me. Soulless almost.
I know you normally stick to true crime stuff but I heard a few interviews of John Larsons sister saying that Andrew Garfield in Tick Tick Boom was so similar to her brother that it felt like she was spending time with him again, I was wondering if you’d ever do a comparison of those two since the family themselves said it was SO similar
Andrew Garfield is such a good actor 🥺❤️
That would be great! I've found myself watching and comparing the both of them, but I definetly lack the know-how to pinpoint the similarities!
This would be so cool
THIS IS A GOLDEN IDEA!!!! comparing actors to the person they are acting as! BRILLIANT!
I love these videos!! I know I mentioned on the last video like this, but I’d love to see a side by side of Elizabeth Holmes vs. Amanda Seyfried from the Theranos story. The short series is called The Dropout. I thought she (Amanda) did such a good acting as the true Elizabeth, but these videos always show a totally different side. I love them, thank you for all your hard work!
Yes please!
Definitely agree. I've watched interviews with Elizabeth Holmes, and really feel like Amanda did a brilliant job.
Oh neat! I loved (?) the story of Elizabeth Holmes, had no idea it had inspired a show.
@@Pavlinka__ yes, definitely go watch it! There’s also a very good documentary about the whole thing that shows a lot of clips they re-enacted in The Dropout. The documentary is called The Inventor: out for blood in Silicon Valley
oooo yes this one would be so good!
Honestly seeing Zac Efron when HSM premiered to now is just astounding. Homie is so freakin talented.
Despite the differences this video highlighted, what I find most impressive is the way he changed his facial posture to look more like Bundy.
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That's adorable 😊
When I view actual footage of Bundy I don’t see anything charming at all - something dead in his eyes gives me the creeps every single time. I love that Efron’s depiction is more charming and human, because it makes it that much more chilling at the end of the movie when he confirms to his ex GF that he did one of the crimes (can’t remember the which one exactly, nor do I know for sure if that part happened in real life or if it was added plot for drama).
Was it admitting to trying to kill her by gas leak but it failed?
@@shilohgoes5544 no it was cutting the girls head off with a saw
@@shilohgoes5544 lo
Thank you! I get this same feeling! When he stalks toward the cameras, I definitely get creeped out by how focused his eyes are (would not want to be the one being stared at). When I see Bundy footage, I'm always thinking, "Yeah, he's guilty. No doubt, something is wrong." When I watch Zac, I really want Bundy to be innocent, because Zac seems softer, more trustworthy, and as you said, charming. That almost makes Zac scarier, as I would never want to find myself alone with the real Bundy, and I like to think I'd pick up on the danger signals. With Zac's Bundy, I absolutely would be murdered, lol.
@@kitorasohma4512 i absolutely agree with you. I was creeped out by the stalking towards the cameras, and that fixed eye contact from the real Bundy. Yet, when watching Zac's depiction-- I was almost hypnotized, because it was softer, it was more trustworthy, exceedingly charming, and it made me forget the real history for q moment, and become shocked when he was found guilty🤣
The thing I find so unnerving about real life Ted Bundy is that he did all these horrific violent acts but he has a very slight build. He is not a big guy like Kemper.
Bundy was wiry, capable of quick powerful lunges. He frequently biked around and played tennis/handball. He was quite agile. Ann Rule said she was surprised at how toned his legs were when she first saw him in shorts. Kemper was kind of a lumbering oaf in comparison, he never really kept in shape. The Golden State killer was also quick and agile, he ran and biked through neighborhoods with ease.
Bundy favored petite victims, women he could overpower.
Britton was doing a good job making me feel uneasy as he monologues, BUT when it goes to Kemper talking - fucking creepy and unsettling. I had to scroll down and look at the comments when he would pop up. Your video helped me understand why I had a visceral reaction to Kemper.
Ok this is a great idea for a video and I’ve been wondering why more people haven’t analyzed actors playing a character and how well they make emotions come across. This was amazing!
Probably because it'll be claimed. I know he's done this before but had to cut the clips from the tv shows and uploaded it to patreon instead. It's such a great concept though and I hope he keeps doing these videos!
The mind hunter series casting for killers was amazing. It was movie quality.
Personally, I think Zac Efron did a damn good job in a dramatization of Bundy. He was handsome and charming which is EXACTLY how Bundy manipulated his victims. People think it was a glorification but it was one of the few films I've seen where the murderer was shown as charming and competent in a very unique way. Using Efron was smart because he is beloved by a lot of the public. He's kinda sweet and goofy and Bundy was very cunning. IDK why people hated it so much.
The duality that resides in Kemper's psyche is just fascinating.
Mindhunters is such an amazing show! Id love to see you analyze more content.
I love that show I wish it hadn't been cancelled.
@@bananawammabama I know!!! And there were so many loose ends to tie up 😩
Great show, I read somewhere though that it wasn’t cancelled but just in a ‘long term hiatus’ as the director is off working on something else. I’m hoping they all come back to reshoot a new season 🤞
I LOVED this episode~!~! You should try doing something with Aileeon Wuornos - she was portrayed by Charlize Theron in
Monster & I would LOVE to see a breakdown of the differences between the two
I SECOND THAT
Geez, I think the real Aileen Wuornos might short circuit his non- verbal analysis meter. She’s all over the damn place.
@@kellyalves756 she was an extremely traumatized person who is in that point of “kill or be killed”… most of that nonverbal is reflecting this. Which is why it’s important to find their baseline. I fear for people on the spectrum and other people with trauma being the target of abuse because people place way too many eggs in a basket that’s not scientifically based. If it breaks them down, good. It’s sus that NONE of these channels have a subject where they are more unable to specify what something is than being able to… suspect because that’s actually the truth of the matter.
She's one of the few I think should have been put in a hospital for the criminally insane.
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I loved this comparison type video! Seeing the actual perpetrators along side actors trying to get into the mindset of them for a show was really fascinating.
It's, a British one but I'd love to see you analyse Dennis Nilsen against the dramatised version of his case (think it's just called des on itv here)
Loved this concept. Would be interesting to see David Tennant and his portrayal of Dennis Nilsen too
I thought he did a good job, he was so much like him that he was repulsive.
I bet it's really hard to mimic an actual extreme anti-social personality if you are not one no matter how good you are at acting.
i also think it’s difficult for actors to portray people like this because their behavior goes against so many acting rules.
@@drewberriesandcream acting rules? Do you mean that actors train to convince most people that what they're doing is natural, whereas ASP types often make us feel uncomfortable?
@@rachel935108 …huh
Plus needing to study that person intimately to get the portrayal right, it must be psychologically challenging.
@@rachel935108 Actors are taught to be verbose and intensified in their emotions and how they act, whereas those with ASP disorder are minimalized and controlled in their actions. They feel little to nothing, and so its hard as an actor who is trained to act colorful to act muted and colorless
Been loving your content & have also checked out your wife's videos! You both come across very down to earth & I can relate with dealing with the endometriosis side, so just wanted to say thank you for your videos & I hope you are well!
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I agree! I just watched Piper's newest video. I LOVED their honesty and introspection. These two make such a beautiful couple. I love the chemistry. ❤
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Another amazing video, Logan. This style of video is really quite enjoyable and interesting. I'd definitely love to see more like it. If you do, do more - I would suggest David Tennant's portrayal of Dennis Nilsen in a TV short series here in the UK called 'Des'. In my opinion, it was scary how well he played him and I think you'd find it interesting.
much love and stay safe.
I feel like the lack of emotion that Zac and Cam couldn't nail really shows how deeply they still feel and can't even get in that "head space" as an actor, which just means for me, as a non-actor, it makes Bundy and Kemp all the more scarier to just be dead and dry like that.
I can actually see why the real life guys seem very dead and dry. As someone who's undergone sexual assaults and other abuse since I was a child, those incidents have played back in my mind like a movie, over and over. I could sit down with you and tell you day by day, what happened and you would be wondering how I could recount what happened so calmly. It's not that I don't feel, it's that I felt too much and I can recite what happened like reciting a dictionary.
I'm not sure about Bundy, because I haven't studied him, but I have studied Kemper for years and I've communicated directly with him. I think it's the same way with him. He may not have the complete depth of feeling that most people have, but it is there.
Deep down, he hates himself because that what he was taught growing up. He's scared, despite his calm demeanor and he's wanted what we all want--to be appreciated.
Being incarcerated is basically all he's known in life, almost 55 years now, and it looks like he'll die there, within the next year or two at most.
I think the structure, the control the COs have over him is familiar to him, as his mother controlled him. Except the COs are a hell of a lot nicer to him than his mother was. She made life for everyone in that family hell on Earth.
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I thought something seemed different also
Every since I have discovered your Chanel, I’ve learned so much! I even catch myself subconsciously trying to read people that I run into
If you want to watch an amazing, terrifying performance of an actor playing Ted Bundy, watch Luke Kirby in "No Man of God". It came out last year. What made his performance terrifying, besides how he looks so much like him and has a lot of his body language, Luke Kirby plays him as what he was, a human. I know we as human beings don't want to call Bundy, and many others, a human but he was. Only humans do what Bundy did. Luke Kirby played him as a human I think Bundy was: a man who wanted power and control and did whatever he could to get it, including killing, and when he had no control, he was nothing but a scared little man.
There's an amazing scene where Luke Kirby/ Bundy recounts a kidnapping, rape, and murder of a woman. It's an amazing scene because we actually don't see anything. We just see Bundy recounting it and becoming sexually excited... it's terrifying and yet, you can't look away. You can actually find the scene here on CZcams. Plus, a woman directed the movie. You never see a true crime film actually directed by a woman.
Yes this! His preformance was mindblowing.
Oh! Exactly. I saw a small clip of it on CZcams, and then I watched the movie. awesome🤯, I was surprised by how much the camera angles made the actor look like Bundy, and there is already similarity. Plus the sharp gaze of the actor made me uneasy.😭👏🏻
Mindhunter blew my mind. Cam Britton as Ed Kemper gave me the chills. Brilliant
I loved Mindhunter and I thought Cameron did a great job initially. However, in looking at these clips together, it seems like the real Ed was much more reserved and less outwardly boasting. I wish they would’ve portrayed that better but it is a show.
There are a lot of killers they interviewed in the show. Maybe some of them can be compared against real killers in future videos.
Even the crying and breaking down during his interview.
Is it just me or is Logan not saying “Well hey there idiotes” anymore? ☹️
Yes, I think he's going through something , I'm just glad he's still posting and hoping he's ok!💙
@@lelacintron3540 Thought so, too. He looks different and somehow sad or exhausted. I hope he's alright and going to be better soon, he always had such a positive vibe to him...
@@diejaykaynz3r078 yes, I want him happy! He has taught us how to tell, it's in the eyes
Comparing the actor and the real Kemper I noticed for the first time how unpersonable Kemper truly is. Up until now it never stood out so glaringly because he is so calm and seems open.
I wish the guy who played kemper leaned more into the somber straight recollection that actually happened than the smug leaned back delivery. His tone of voice is pretty decent tho. I don’t know if it was the directors decision but I really didn’t feel he portrayed him well at all.
I’m wondering if the decision behind it was so that Kemper came across as more confident and strong when compared to the main character, who always felt like he was on the brink of losing it himself. There was something about the way they portrayed Kemper that would have drawn someone like the main character to him and really increased the fascination and attraction. If he was monotone, barely moved, and seemed “weak” it would be harder to imagine the attraction.
@@saraghhh right the only thing I could think was that it was a creative choice to boost the story telling. I guess the only reason to find the actual kemper interesting was because it was real; as to where when you’re watching a movie or show you expect more of a character.
This was fascinating. Love watching your videos, you point out the nuances that most people miss
david tennant playing dennis nilsen in “des” was a great adaptation
The real Bundy, in that instance, was far more menacing and intimidating. Pity they didn’t exactly mimic it.
Could you also now compare the different adaptations of a same character? An example, The Joker: Heath Ledger's vs. Joaquin Phoenix's
Oh this is SO interesting!! Great idea for a video! 👏🏻
I love this concept!!! Please keep them coming!!
I love that the true crime community has found you, and is requesting videos like this!
Mindhunter is hands down my favorite show. I really wish they would have kept it going. I thought Britton did such a wonderful job.
This was so interesting in comparing the portraying & the real footage!!! I'd Love MORE OF THESE!!! Thanks Darling
Could you do this kinda of thing with the movie My Friend Dahmer? Ross Lynch (who plays Jeffery Dahmer) did a lot of research in preparation for this role and its such a good movie, he researched everything down to how he walked and carried himself
The movie was based on a graphic novel by one of his old friends he went to school with, the author was so freaked out he had to ask Ross to take of his glasses he was wear for the movie because Ross reminded him so much of the real person, people in the area who knew him told Ross that he was acting just like him
If you ever want content that is a bit lighter- look into the nonverbal communication in Dance Moms- haha! I literally watch that show and hear your voiceover in my head.
I never knew I needed this but i need this 🤣
Ooohhh, good idea! Looking forward to watching this right now!
What a great video idea - sitting down with my morning coffee and a brand new Observe video - yayyyy
I love this concept. Great video, thank you!!
Yes yes yes. I love your true crime content. Thankyou for your work.
Intro music or not, this was a great video! I love this comparison style! Also, Mind Hunter was such a good show!!!
Cameron nailed this role.
I would love to see you compare The Staircase Netflix Docuseries to HBO's The Staircase with Colin Firth. Firth does a stellar job and I would love to hear your take on it. Also, I love this concept. ;)
yesss!! you asked for what we'd like to see a while back and i said this exactly!! so hype
Have you considered doing an analysis on the guy they called "the confession killer"? I think that would be a fascinating learning experience.
I am so happy you got the footage from MindHunter, of Ed Kemper. That was/is my favorite tv show.
The drama at the end where he ripped the papers did happen irl as well from what I remember
Really enjoyed this one!
I have always found Kemper to be extremely fascinating. Of all the serial killers he seems to have this sense of self-reflection or self-awareness more than any other.
These videos are so good!
I'd love to see you have a look at the non verbal of Louise Woodward, the nanny accused of shaking the baby to death and see how you feel about how she acted in court. She has a few nervous giggles and things that make people question her.
Edit: There is a documentary made by channel 4 (UK) that looks into it with court clips and police phonecalls
Awesome, I really love this theme of comparing real life criminals to their portrayals by actors! Thank you :D
Great video! I just finished Mind hunter and found this very interesting.
This was a really cool video idea! I enjoyed it very much, just wished it was longer. I'm a sucker for long videos
I've been waiting for this! 🥰 Thank you Logan 💜
It's been so long since I've been able to watch..love you and Meg
Loved being able to look at the difference. I would really enjoy seeing more of these videos. Thanks for always finding new types of content.
Hey Logan ! Thank you for the video!💙
This is incredibly interesting. Actors should reach out to you for character gestures etc! Loved this video
really enjoyed this!
Loved this!! I see Bundy as highly agitated/scared portraying someone who's in control of the situation. I still dont understand why Efron was casr.
& Cameron Britton... chef's kiss!
Good video with excellent observations! I enjoyed this :)
Probably my favorite video you've made great job
Super interesting! Love this idea!
This is both interesting and illuminating. Just fascinating. Thank you for all the work you put into these videos.
This was so interesting! Thank you!
This is such a fun idea. Kemper I have I always found more intriguing then bundy, bundy has always seemed like a ignorant child who thinks they better or smarter than everyone, just another stereotypical asshole who can’t control himself. Where as Kemper who may be egocentric still was able to think others and understand the weight of his actions.
Really interesting one, thanks!
this is such a good video concept.
What a clever and interesting idea! Very cool to see the portrayed vs real body language broken down like this!
Would love to see more videos like this !
Another great video, thank you! (I absolutely love the shirt)
This was so interesting! Great content as always 👌🏼
I wonder how much the entertainment portrayal enables actual killers to get away with stuff. Do we expect certain behaviors because of it that a real killer would not display? A lot of people I know seem to have a hard time picking up on cues that a person is unsafe or at least toxic, and I wonder if it’s because they have been “taught” what that looks like by Hollywood rather than by reality.
Oh absolutely.
You're absolutely right.
Awesome video! I would love more like this!
Ed Kemper sounds like he's giving a job interview or bragging about his accomplishments. It's so weird everytime I watch it
Right you can tell he feels no guilt. None at all.
Very interesting to see these comparisons. I loved Cameron Britton's portrayal of Ed Kemper. He made him seem so likable and non-threatening, which made him that much more terrifying to me. Mindhunter was such a good show.
Loved this!!!!
professional actors would be wise to study your episodes and insights!!! I love your videos and learn so much!
I love this concept of comparing bio pics to the real person. This is awesome!
Thanks. Great topic.
The documentary should be called: Ted Bundy and his finger waggle of shameeee!
Interesting comparisons!! Always interested in your insight 👀
Loved this video extremely insightful 💚💚
I've missed a few videos, but wanted to say you're looking great! Also, Mindhunter is great, and i LOVED Cameron Britton.
ngl when I first read the title I totally thought that you were saying that Zac Effron was a serial killer. so confused, glad he isnt lol