Alternative History Timeline | Ancient Structures Are Reconstructions?
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What if the structures in Europe, these megalithic tombs, the dolmens and the henge monuments are reconstructions of older monuments?
We would never be able to fully uncover the older dates with our current dating methods, but I personally find it extremely unlikely that we have a 7000 year gap in construction between the Tas Tepeler sites in Turkey and the oldest stone structure in Europe at the Carrowmore cemetery.
It is possible that we had burial mounds, or passage tombs, dolmens or henge monuments created from wood, that kept being rebuild for a very long time, possibly thousands of years, that eventually got reconstructed by stone, either a very long time ago, or not as great as they may have not been very skilled working with stone yet, who knows..
Eventually about 5600 years ago the Neolithic builder culture started to develop and they could have possibly discovered the ruins of these ancient structures and eventually these stone structures were reconstructed by them.
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In 1984 in Monte Hermoso and La Olla, in the coastal area just north of Patagonia, Argentina, footsteps of this kind, both of adults and children, were discovered. Some of them were found by chance by a 1st year student of Archaeology (if I remember rightly) at the University of La Plata, who was visiting her family and decided to take a walk along the beach. She saw them and, clearly, already had an eye for this kind of remains, so she contacted some of her professors. These sites were studied and dated back to 7,000 years ago.They are in danger from weather erosion and because these areas were coastal lagoons but are now on the seashore, so they are flooded by the high tide every day. I was there and I felt extremely moved by this sort of encounter with people who lived more or less in the same area as me, all that long time ago, and one day left these footprints when they were, apparently, fishing. I can almost imagine the kids playing around or learning how to do it, just like we would do now. This contact with those ancient human beings is what makes me love your channel.
I think of the same thing. Especially, when it comes to language and religions. I have seen the giant redwoods and sequoia in person in california and many giant Cedars in Idaho and Montana. Oh, and by the way I love your knowledge keep up with the great content Kayleigh. I love people who question history.
I might recall a "Woodhenge" found in Cahokia, which might be related to this theory as the cultural zone it belongs to, The Southwestern Ceremonial Complex was also known for building Mounds and taking a few leaps here, but...
Mesoamerican Pyramids belonging to Mayan, Zapotec and Nahua Civilizations were built in layers akin to a cake, with the older buildings being concealed more and more by the newest layers....
Perhaps, the Southwestern Ceremonial Complex was about to enter it's "Reconstruction Stage" by the time of it's downfall?
Cahokia builders remains a mystery. Those who came after, did built huts an alike on top.
The case with Gobleki Tepe is different because it looks like it was buried. Very interesting.
Apparently Victoria Australia once had the tallest tree in the world. They were all fine in sixty years plenty of house but in trees.
Regarding the moundbuiders in America in particular around the Mississippi River Drainage. I've always suspected they were built to deal with frequent flooding in the lowlands. The Army Corps of Engineers did extensive work there to deal with it and it still floods to this day.
I adore your jokes and sense of humor, it makes the videos so fascinating to watch.
The theory of rebuilds makes perfect sense. Just in my life time I've seen major cities and monuments destroyed by nature or man and later rebuilt because there was a bond between the first builders and who followed.
Your singing voice is incredible! Thank you for sharing this prior to your premiere. Can't wait to hear your hypotheses / theories. Cheers!
As humans we have a fascination with spiritual structures and a deep pride showing off what we built so I have a hard time believing our ancestors wouldn't have done the same. I would have loved to see the ancient irmansul trees the Germanic tribes found so sacred. I'm sure they were beautiful!
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Very interesting hypothesis. The Roman geographer Strabo, who lived in the first century BCE, wrote that the Tartessians, a mysterious culture that once existed in what is now Spain, possessed written literature and historical records that were six thousand years old in his time, i.e. over eight thousand years BP. So perhaps civilization in Europe and elsewhere is much older than is usually thought.
the cromlech of almendres has a date of 7000 to 8000BP and is not the oldest in iberia
There is a very good lecture by Randall Carlson about human timeline. WE think we know it all and that human civilization goes back to 8000 BC and that was it. But modern humans like us have been around for at least 180.000-200.000 years. Hard to imagine that they were hunter gatherers for that eternity. We get bored after a short while and start inventing and building things, then so did they. Thery were exactly like us, same size same brain same curiosity.
I’m the weird one who thinks it was all much more recent. There have only been a few academics who believed, like me, that events in history are at least 1,000 years more recent than currently believed. But it does seem that more and more are catching onto this idea and giving some support to it, and i think that could snowball.
It really makes you wonder how advanced the Minoan civilization was before the eruption of Crete and whether or not the Atlantean civilization was actually real and the YD caused them to lose their edge. (Look up the Eye of Mauritania and compare it to the measurements of Atlantis given by Plato.)
@@michaelgoss826 You do realize that "cavemen" era ended at about 10,000 BCE. In 1 BCE, Rome had conquered most of Europe, and everything around the Med. The Antikythera mechanism, which was basically a clockwork calculator, was created. These weren't "primitive" people as most believe.
Great video! People usually don’t wake up one day and say “you know what, let’s find the biggest stones possible and arrange them for this and that.” It’s usually a progression of effort and materials over time, expanding, getting bigger in scale, and more elaborate.
They have found a number of woodhenges as well. But even if the monolithic ones were inspired by the wooden structures, they didn't have to build them in the same place and might not have. With the amount of archaeological work and other diggings done around Stonehenge (Salisbury Plain, England), if it was built on the site of a woodhenge, they really should have found some traces of it, but like most things, it's not guaranteed.
Yes, that would be the case if there was no intended or designed purpose and it evolved organically. However, I do not believe that is the case with the stone henges. I believe they actually had a very much needed purpose and were built for that. While there may have been elements of religion involved, I believe the reason behind their construction was actually utilitarian.
Furthermore, a wood hinge would have the same utilitarian end but be more prone to disrepair over time. Interestingly enough, I don't believe agrarian society would be necessary to demand a need for a henge, but a permanent Stone structure would certainly be more justifiable if the society wasn't moving around.
I did just that when I woke this morning. Mondays!
The old axiom. Everything old is new again.
@Leebo Leigh The energies involved in interstellar flight make the concept totally ridiculous. There is no valid reason to mount such an effort. Alien Intelligences that attempted it would have to be the stupidest intelligences the galaxy could provide. The primitive Dogon people of North Africa have a festival every 76 years directed at the star Sirius that coincides with Sirius B occulting Sirius A. How could they know this ? Must have been told by aliens, right ? NO ! We know Sirius is a binary star and no aliens told us. Perhaps it was known by a civilization that fell at end of last ice age and the Dogon people forgot most of thier astronomy. Far far more likely than aliens they don't remember either. Simplest explanation is the most likely one.
The first ancient sites(in Australia) were for song lines. These were vocal/performances maps. The landmarks were woven into the story with the plants, stars, season etc. the most important aspect of these sites was that the soul of ppl come from these places and go there after death to wait.
These places was where I could get in touch with ur ancestors. The most important thing was to get knowledge from ur ancient ancestors.
I believe that’s what these sites were for. They could have been felt and known of for tens of thousands of years before they were built on
Songlines were invented in the 1980's by a British travel-writer. Now belief in and worship of songlines is an act of religious faith.
@@purplexs2506 (ab)originals don’t “worship” anything.
The songlines are maps, food and water sources, seasons, everything.
Also knownin Europe as leylines
@@purplexs2506 I am not talking from second hand information
Gobekli Tepe blew my mind.
Reconstruction is definitely a viable premise, as we engage in restorations and reconstructions today.
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It's a plausible hypothesis that ancient stone structures could be rebuilt or relocated because the extra labor involved in gathering stones individually or from a quarry. It's certainly plausible that a later culture would stumble upon an ancient structure or that an invading army would recycle good building material after invading the foreign land.
Another good example would be the London Bridge now located in Lake Havasu City, Arizona. It was originally built in the 1830s and formerly spanned the River Thames in London, England. In 1968 the bridge was purchased from the City of London by a real estate developer. For inquiring minds this is a distance of approximately 5,285 miles / 8505 kilometers.
He also thought he was purchasing Tower Bridge not London Bridge…..bit of a hiccup there! ….See you in October
There is evidence from other structures in the world that they are rebuilt from older blocks. Even in Egypt, you can find stones that simply were reused.
Also plausible they are built by giant machines from planets that existed in the blue spheres of spacetime
There are many sites in Peru that were clearly rebuilt on many times over.
Fascinating talk, makes me think of stone henge with its many ancient rebuilds and movement stages, and what you said about wooden construction after all its cup and pit connections was based upon joinery and its twice has old post holes for another henge like construction now located at its car park.
I am very happy to have found this channel, I love this things, keep it up, i like you believe that we have been on this planet far longer than they tell us, keep it up
I would love to go to Egypt with you, Kayleigh. Unfortunately I am handicapped and living on disability. I envy the lucky people who go. I will be there in spirit. You will make a great hostess!
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So as a professional building inspector, I believe your hypothesis is absolutely dead on, totally accurate. While I do not want to sound like a Tartarian Mud Flooder, it is clear that almost every ancient structure is considerably older than advertised.
I agree. Victorians, the first real, modern archeologists, had a habit of chiseling parts of hieroglyphics off of walls, because they had 'naughty bits' on or because they disagreed with a certain philosophical thinking at the time. Gunpowder (4th century) is ignored in castle structures and rebuilding, because cannon were 'not perfected' until the 14th century. The egyptians had a habit of erasing their ancestors works to 'prove' that they were 'living gods'. Nobody talks about the ancient stone structures in south africa because 'building people did not exist' before history books say they did. Saying otherwise is frowned upon.
I wonder, when we colonise mars, if we will conveniently 'forget' our planet of origin after a generation or two?... :)
I thought the about the mud floods from Tartarian’s theories damn what if these mfs are on to something… 🤔 but hard pass on the melted buildings that are actually just mountains
0ne of the most informative and balanced look at what - and why - happened over the last 12,000 (approx) years. My sincere congratulations on being able to put something like this together...
What you have to bring to the table is invaluable!
Interesting theory. Many Japanese temples are reconstructions of older Chinese temples and Shinto of Ise is itself rebuilt every 20 years so we know stuff like this happens from recorded history. Also many of the details of stone construction in the architecture of ancient Greece, India and China are based off of wood construction so it definitely seems possible that megalithic structures might've been based off of or replaced earlier wood structures. Evidence though for earlier wood structures can be found by looking for things like post holes. Regarding whether a particular structure was a reconstruction on the site that could be determined by seeing how the soil has been disturbed. In construction soil that has been excavated and refilled leaves a pattern different from undisturbed soil and has a different bearing capacity. For New Grange it would be able to to determine that there might've been an older construction there from that. Also given that modern New Grange was built using mortar that didn't exist in ancient times so even if records were lost of New Grange it might still be possible to determine that it was a reconstruction.
Yes! And Ise Jingu is a perfect example. Every 20 years dismantled/reassembled by the finest craftspeople in the land.
Yes! The spare lines are japanese and Scandinavian.
"it definitely seems possible that megalithic structures might've been based off of or replaced earlier wood structures"
It seems fairly likely in the case of Stonehenge that it was a downscaled astronomically focused version of the earlier, larger Woodhenge more recently found further down.
Many of the South and Meso American pyramids are also some reconstruction, they started with a small pyramid and simply added
a new ( larger scale of course ) shell around it.
I like it. I hope you pursue this with great vigor. Becoming an expert in any field is an honor, but becoming someone who proves, disproves, or adds to history is making a legacy.
Just watched this again. Once again I compliment you on the careful, extensive explanations. It cleared up some questions I've had. The absence of tools around incredible sites like Giza has made me wonder if the builders took the tools with them! So I'm thinking multiple "reconstructions" over eons.
This video is a very clear description of the climatic events that occurred 12,000 odd ya.
Putting together the story of the past is incredibly complicated. We can state basic fact such as global temperature at different times and the atmospheric composition at this times, but determining how significant those facts are requires judgement and interpretation. And this is the problem. There is enough uncertainty with some events to allow the possibility of some unusual events. Extremely interesting. Thanks Kayleigh.
I like your down to earth presentations ,
Great Video......Very Thought Provoking.
Great move to attempt to connect the current clues discovered over time!
Still thinking about your hypothesis.
Great Work and so stylishly presented!
The amount of research you put into these videos is incredible. I enjoy your videos because they are so informative.
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Only 7 mins into the video and Ireland mentioned twice
Never knew so much history on my back doorstep
Love the presenter too (not JUST because she’s wearing green)
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I tend to agree with you. Very well put together video.. I love dryas . The flowers often turn the tundra white in June. Just had a caribou burger for lunch. Time to go put a bass line in a recording. Thankyou for your work!
Just watched this and I agree your general hypothesis has merit, although the amount of soil required to do the carbon dating probably amounts to a five- gallon bucket. So the soil under the reconstruction would essentially be the same as it always has been since the original construction. There would be additional layers, as there always are, that show signs of additional civilizations as well as reflecting the cataclysmic event that perpetuated the rebuild you're using to support / explain your hypothesis. I'll continue to watch a few more of your presentations to hear your fresh take on our civilization's history. - Dr. Mark
Kayleigh, you presented a plausible case, pertaining to both scientific and archaeological academia. I listened intently to your seminar, and I hope that your CZcams colleagues will assist you in your hypothesis. Wishing you both good luck and good fortune. Yours sincerely, Keith.
Thank you Keith!
@@HistoryWithKayleigh You're welcome Kayleigh!
Very compelling. I think you are on the right track.
Love all your uploads Kayleigh. You certainly have a way about you that appeals. Cheers mate. 😊😊😊
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Excellent points Kayleigh. Still wondering about Malta as some place of early origins amongst Europe. The other place that stands out is Mount Nimrud, is something beneath the mounds that outdates the other ruins?
Very thought provoking! 🤔
It is refreshing to follow such an open minded historian. Seeking truth, rather than proving a narrative
I believe that your right on track. All be it you being very young your mind is in a state of blossoming and I find that very refreshing. congratulations on the collaboration and the trip to Egypt, very exciting stuff. Exultant video...
I agree that many people were looking at the Haiawatha crater as a support for Comet Impact theory. The evidence for an ET interaction is solid but a single impact is unlikely to fit the overall event(s). So the experts were never wasting any time waiting for Haiawatha since it would only ever have been another piece of the puzzle, not the super prize in the box of cereal.
Haiawatha the Peace Maker of the Iroquois?
This makes sense, I mean, the Egyptians reconstructed sites and stated that even the popular pyramids were built on an already standing platform of black/dark granite. The platform is made of huuuuuuuuuuuge blocks of dark granite, and there are theories that the 'sphynx' was already there but modified several times by the Egyptians, it could have been a simple building, changed and added onto by the Egyptians, whom knows, but I hope we find out one day soon haha! love you Kayleigh! you historical badass!!
Interesting! Thanks for keeping the conversation going!
aaahhh, i was gonna say that! hi, Kayleigh! was out workin in the yard when this came up. when i did watch it, there was over 100 comments. some of them saying what i had been thinking, probably stated better than i would have. sssooo, i'll just say; great, interesting, and quite plausible hypothesis. i've always felt there was more going on before the sudden appearance of constructs such as Giza, Newgrange, and etc. there had to be a long period of learning to get to such perfection. and, there are many sites we do know, of reconstruction of cities or what-have-you. Jericho and Troy are the most well known, other than the Tepes. so, the probability of older reconstructions has merit. what can i say, great minds think alike😁😉
anyhoo, interesting, enjoyable video, Klee! thank you! see you again, soon?
Without a doubt old structures were reused. It would have been stupid to not. I’m not convinced on your timeline though. Great episode.
So thought-provoking & compelling as ever Kayleigh! Being Irish I've been lucky enough to see (& touch!) many dolmens & megalithic tombs in Ireland over the years. A tiny one the size of a garden shed is just a few km from where I live in a park in a housing estate! When I was a kid it was in a large tree filled field. Everything has changed since then, except it! They persist as the decades & centuries & humans change most things around them. I was also fortunate enough to have visted the massive megalithic structures of Knowth, Dowth & Newgrange many times too. To stand inside the inner chamber at Newgrange, the driest place in Ireland (which is really saying something!) for the last 52 centuries due to its unique construction technique (no mortar, pkaster or cement yet it's totally waterprooed from rain). To stand there & reflect on the ancients holding ceremonies for the dead there or celebrate the Winter Solstice is literally a spine tingling experience. You make it all seem so much more easy to feel more a part of this history with your enquiring style & wide ranging questioning & theorising (always supported by actual prehistoric evidence). And your latest "Kayleigh Question" which I for one was deligted & intrigued to run with is one of your most thought provoking yet! Only yesterday I was reading a fascinating online article in The Spectator about these recently discovered archaeological remains in Turkey at Katahan Tepe, including the world's first (& last?) 'Penis Chamber' !!! Wonder if that'll eventually get a mention in that museum in your capital city!? I was thinking how much time there was between our oldest dolmens (7,500 years?) & this new site, but in awe more than enquiry! So you asking that specific question, why DID we stop making stone structures in Europe or thousands of years? Well you crystalised my thoughts on the subject yet again! My mental journies into the past are all the richer for knowing you are here drawing disparate sources together then presenting them so intelligently & humourously! Keep up the wonderful work Kayleigh!
This video's right up my alley.
I don't like the fact that people don't think humans are capable of doing incredible things but I also like to think about amazing possibilities.
Great video 👍
Kayleigh, Very interesting hypothesis… definitely left me wanting more! Also…
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I think you may assume, or for a moment did assume, that every old pile of rocks found by anyone in Europe over the last 7000 years would be carefully inspected to determine if they had archeological importance. Please don't forget that archeologists are digging through only what's left after 5000-7000 years of modern era civilization. Some of these artifacts get reported to academia while many others just get hauled to the local quarry or dragged off to be used in the next building foundation. I often wonder what treasures are buried under an old building in London or Giza that we may never find.
Makes much more sense for London than Giza tbh, but yeah, archeology is lost due to more recent construction quite regularly.
Very true. And the other side of that coin is also important: we are still finding new locations, almost every few months the last decade, that contradicts our current understanding of history.
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Fantastic grade school level presentation, perfect for today's population.
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Super interessante video! Ik ben NL en woon in Ierland en ga graag naar de neolithische tombes in dit land en je voelt dat deze plek oeroud is en een hoop geheimen voor ons heeft..
Personally, I think it's highly likely that the ancient stone structures are reconstructions of older ones. It makes perfect sense to me.
Wood would likely have been used for most of early building projects, and replaced with stone when the people became more adept at using it.
Thank you for another well presented and educational video.
Best video yet!! Great job!! I’ve had that the theory for over 40 years. I’m glad people are starting to wake up! Yay!!!! 😊😊😊
Glad to find you here.
As an artist with a life long interest in archeology and human behaviour, I've spent a lot of time trying to put myself in the shoes of ancient artists. You enter is a certain timeless twighlight zone when you consider the creative process applied to artefacts. I'm always fascinated by evidence of a rushed job, or sub standard student work, or the role of 'play' in the development of technology.
I assume that ancient modern humans are essentially the same as us, and that if you plucked a child out of deep time, and raised it as a modern western citizen, it would be difficult to find any fundamental differences in their development. There are plenty of examples of this from colonial assimilation.
On the other hand, I think it might be a mistake to consider 21st century 'stone aged' culture is a perfect analogue for neolithic culture. Exploiting the same resource, with the same technology does NOT automatically mean all stone aged cultures are alike, and we know this by comparing contemporary examples of stone age aboriginal cultures. The bench mark provided by 'stone technology' is imperfect, the closer you look. Differences in method, are probably more important than similarities in resource exploitation.
In recent decades in Australia, grieving families have started placing road side memorials to loved ones killed in car crashes. Most are ephemeral and vanish within a few years. Some are vandalised. Some are restored, as time passes. Some people feel the need to renew them. Sometimes they are removed by councils or road workers. Sometimes they are restored by road workers out of respect for the dead.
If you take these dynamics and spin the clock forward a few centuries, its easy to see how things MAY develop. Most memorials will vanish. Some will be maintained, by family. Some will be maintained by third parties for a variety of reasons: eccentric hobby, or a concern for heritage. Some sites will evolve to become general memorials. Others, may transform the original subject into a legend. Some sites will become important geographic and political landmarks.
This gradual process could well dovetail into your hypothesis for deep time renewal of older structures. We certainly see this process working throughout history: public works, urban renewal, symbolic reinforcement of local identity: The amplification of the familiar.
A simple road side memorial to dead loved one, can conceivably evolve into a shine to a saint, a place of worship, a trading post, a village, a cultural them park to reinforce the significance of local cultural institutions, a propaganda tool,
I enjoyed your comment. Thought provoking. Thanks!
@@barrywalser2384 thank you. I only hope it may inspire a greater mind with access to the resources necessary.
@@wiretamer5710 Yes, I hope so too.
We have the road side memorials in the US as well. I think you have a very good analogy there.
Stonehenge, (one of the oldest henges ever built, according to Eddie Izzard) was previously built from wood. They found the rotted-out posts in holes, and dated them. But before Woodhenge, they could have built Mudhhenge, Twighenge, Icehenge, and Poophenge. Which for some reason, did not survive to the present day...
don't forget "straw henge"
@@trimbaker1893 ... and Fishhenge, and Shroomhenge!
And the teensy weensy sand henge
@@trimbaker1893 Majestic, mighty Sandhenge, towering above Dusthenge, and Holehenge...
@@LordMondegrene the big standing stones were only there to keep people from stepping on sandhenge during big gatherings
What a well kept orchid. Look at those air roots. Very nice. Love the owl pot too.
Bravo, as usual. Thank you. Goodness, you do a lot of research.
People keep on about the cause of the Younger Dryas, but looking at a temperature graph from Greenland ice cores, the temperatures of the Younger Dryas were just a continuation of those of the Oldest Dryas (18,500-14,500 BP). The real questions should be what caused the temperature increase of the Bolling-Allerod interstadial (14,690 - 12,890 BP) that separated them and what caused the temperature increase at the end of the Younger Dryas (11,700 BP)?
For years I have had a theory that the current human civilization is just the latest, Homo Sapiens have been around for some 300,000 years, and conventional history says that we has spend all bar the last 10,000 years living in caves. I find it hard to believe, that our ancestors made as few advances as conventional history suggests for 290,000 years, then rose to where we are now in the last 10,000. As for why we have found no evidence of ancient civilisations:
1) multiple ice ages have scoured the surface of most of the northern hemisphere several times over.
2) during the multiple ice ages sea levels have been at lot lower than they are today, up to 130m lower, so ruins of ancient ports could be deep under water now.
This is without considering the possibility that our cousins in the genus Homo (homo neanderthalensis, homo erectus, etc) might have achieved more than they are given credit for. After all the Neanderthals had bigger brains than we have!
Oh boy! Would I love to debate you. Sadly I think we actually agree on all but a few minor points. I am impressed by the Caliber of the people Kayleigh attracts.
Fox out.
12:00 Population...in the 1930s there were 300 million in the Yangtze watershed...were there 300 million in like 930AD?...no reason not to be that I can see...the estimate of pre-Columbian population in MesoAmerica keeps going up and up...in good times populations grow...oh...I have to wiki ancient populations!...before agriculture I imagine populations were too small to build things...everyone too busy just surviving...an example early California?...villages everwhere, hundred of tribes with different languages, stoneage culture, but the populations small, but in Mesoamerica big populations...big population/monumental buildings, a kinda formula, a creative urge to make such kicks in at some point when enough people about to make such!...the geologist are arriving at that volcanic eruptions/traps like in Siberia ended the ice age-melted the ice from undernearh... I dunno...since, the Earth is like drying out, note thr Sahara...now, big population grow where things grow, watersheds, like the Nile...thought is the Egyptians were refugees from once wet Sahara savannas, and picked up agriculture in that diaspora...see above my comment about fluted columns...the Egyptians had fluted columns a thousand years before the Greeks, who were carefull to recall the wooden origin temples in the stone ones...🙂
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We need to be careful with population estimates, especially those of wiki.
I recently read a brief about the total population of T. rex having been half a billion over 20 million years and 128,000 generations. It could be. But what we actually have are bones from about 24 individuals with only one complete skeleton. Genetic diversity projections are good. But not that good.
And human population projections are just the same. Yes. Population estimates in South America are going up as extensive ruins are discovered by LIDAR. These new estimates are inferential, not empirical.
As to the assumption that hunter-gathers can’t build anything. The mound city at poverty point dispelled that idea. So too Gobleki Tepe. ( I give up! I’m not fighting the damn spell checker on that one. You know what I mean).
About 90% of what archeology knew “for sure” in the 1920’s is now known to be incorrect. We live in a time when our entire view of the ancient world is changing rapidly. That is the charm of a channel like Kayleigh’s.
But few people address the “so what” of ancient history. So what IF the pyramids were built by Hunter gatherers. So what IF Neanderthals were the first farmers 100,000 years ago? So what IF the global population of homo equalled the world population today, 120,000 years ago at the last glacial minimum? Or not. What does that tell us about ourselves? About the world? About change? That should be a topic in our discussion from time to time.
Fox out.
There are earthen mounds in North America about the age of Carrowmore. But it took until the Olmec and Mayan civilizations for monumental stone work to be done. So that is a stretch of about 2500 to 3000 years, from earthen mounds to stone structures.
That was just Beautiful!
One of the great things about gobegli tepe I’d the builders cleaned up the site and didn’t leave anything behind as evidence to who why and how it was constructed. Flux capacitor… what a delightful lady! I love you!
There are traces of ancient wooden henges and other structures all over Europe, so yes, very possible some were replaced ("upgraded") by stone equivalents over time. Some of these wooden structures are even thousand years older than Göbekli Tepe. Like totem pole like structures in what is now Russia but there are several more. Unfortunately because of intensive human usage and natural rearrangements [coastlines, rivers etc] of grounds in Europe over many thousands of years most of those traces are lost forever.
How many viking drakker ships have been found?
@@clossemarin3201 - a lot but they are not prehistoric.
@@armandsimonis7992 are there bustles in hedgerows? According to Led Zeppelin there are.
given that we have evidence that towns and cities have multiple layers of rebuilding ... like Troy which was thought to be complete fiction until it was relocated in the late 19th century ... it makes perfect sense that other structures that were of some sort of importance to the culture of the day would be reconstructed, replacing older materials with more resilient ones.
The Best part was ,, if we can't go back to then, we can't be sure.
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Well we found post holes at Stonehenge that predate the stones there by a long time. But to suppose that many stone sites from the neolithic or earlier were reconstructions would require evidence we don't have at the moment. Personally I think it's likely that the geography played a huge part in where they chose to put these sites, and certainly a rebuilding over time, and sometimes of different materials is not absurd.
The oldest MAJOR Human engineered construction is located in Western Victoria, Australia.
The eel trap aquaculture dam network was built by Indigenous people and is dated to at least 6,600 years old. UNESCO recognised this site in 2019 and was the first Indigenous Australian cultural landscape to be recognised by UNESCO for World Heritage protection.
The dating was based on the age of rocks taken from the base of the dam walls. (other daring techniques and clues were also used).
@@PetraKann lol, other "daring" methods? Nice typo, there! 😄😉
The age of the rocks???
On the subject of Mega Fauna - look into fish sizes in the Rhine river - there is evidence of 5 meter long Sturgeons in prehistoric times. One could feed a family for weeks. Same for some rivers in American west (Truckee) in the early 1880s. Once enough people are fishing the older fish get caught and ave size gets smaller.
Love Kaliegh's discussions.
The melt water changing the conveyor belt and the quick drop in temperature, I feel like is the best theory with the proof.Good luck on this post .
Well, we have mounting evidence for a potential impact event in Greenland that is the likely cause of the sudden megafauna extinction, as well as a major genetic bottleneck in humanity during the younger drias period.
It could have also devastated any advanced civilizations occupying the northern hemisphere at the time, setting progress back thousands or maybe even tens of thousands of years, but as we know, nature reclaims civilization at an alarming rate, and past signs of advanced civilizations can be erased from view in just a few hundred years, sometimes less.
I always liked Graham Hancock's explanation of the Sphinx, that an astronomically sophisticated pre-Egyptian civilization built this monument to face the constellation Leo at a certain time of the year, but that it had to have been built when Leo rose in the sky at that time of the year...26000 years ago. Not saying it's true, just saying I liked his explanation of why and how. Makes sense. Wondering if Kayleigh has ever read that shite and her opinion. I still like the idea...
Assuming somebody had cherry picked the very same stars out of the sky also thinking they resembled a lion 26 000 years ago. That’s a pretty big if.
No one ever made pooping in the woods sound so appealing. Forget the outhouse baby. Just dump in the woods!!!
Great video!
The new setup looks great. And yeah, those Redwood trees in the Pacific Northwest region of the US are certainly a sight to see. They are M A S S I V E trees. I've seen pictures of cars driving thru the middle of living Redwood trees.
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History doesn't repeat it ryhmes. Nice work I didn't feel like you were reading but speaking honestly as anyone can. Thank you!
Also remember, before the Great Deluge, the oceans were saltier, which means lesser ships could traverse the oceans do to being more buoyant and the oceans were a bit smaller and shallower with the great ice sheets due to water being, well ice instead, leaving more salt. So moving around the world seems more plausible now don't it.
That's a brilliant point, thank you, never heard it before!!
I agree with your hypothesis, Kayleigh. I have a gut feeling that there were a number of earlier civilizations that lacking endurance of wood structures, not being adept at stone construction have decayed out of known history. Adding the destruction to the Roman statuary & structures, as an example, by later cultures for 'political/religious' reasons, it's probable the same occurred earlier. Using old 'finished' stonework to build with is a lot easier than starting from scratch, saving not only sweat but a lot of time and so the new building can be built while the idea is still 'hot'. There's probably a lot more reasons I haven't even mentioned. Bottom line, my gut feeling is that we didn't suddenly become civilized in the last 7 or 8 thousand years. What were the bridges, beyond the simplistic change of hunter/gatherer to farmer? We domesticated wolves a lot earlier than that. I'm sure we had a lot more ideas than just employing a guard dog to protect the family while part of the family was away from home. Speaking of home, yours is a nice improvement!!
Your referring to what Jung called intuition. It’s a powerful psychological tool, that gut feeling. It’s also usually right. I agree with you. But gut feelings also get a bad reputation. An old, and therefore successful intelligence officer once advised “trust your intuition, until you really need to. Then don’t.”
Since none of our lives are in the line about this discussion I say follow your gut.
Fox out.
@@MrJento Yep. Intuition should motivate the beginning of research, and not conclude it.
Don’t you think the dogs were used for hunting? That would be an obvious use case for hunter gatherers, and they’re still being used for that.
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That’s what everybody says. Being a fox I’m not partial to beagles myself.
Everybody sees wolves working the other side of the kill. Then eventually moving into camp with people. For a percentage. Wolves are Republicans after all and want an associate position. I saw a meme were two wolves are discussing going to the human camp for free food. One wolf asks the other “what could it hurt?”. The next frame shows a white Yorkshire terrier with a pink bow on its head.
Seriously, dogs are all round helpers. In fact I think they are more useful keeping visitors out of the garden and guys like me out of the chickens and livestock.
All in all it was a good move when dogs domesticated humans. Look how much you learned!
Fox out.
@ 2:50 the subtitle had "...hamster gatherers" and that caught my attention and made me laugh.
I am so glad I found your video and finally heard Younger Dryas properly and simply explained, luv how you present things in a very unbias and fun way yet fully informative and well researched, and I must say I am actually mad at Scientists for naming things in stupid ways, when your name or label needs to be explained it is not a good name or label, I don't care if people in your circle get it, everyone needs to be able to just read it and say oh that's exactly what it means
I enjoy your presentations very much. Timelines are constructions drawn from partial data. They are meant to be changed. Yet, there is massive and even derisive resistance from academics who resist the devaluation of their acquired knowledge. The wedge of progress accumulates from anomalies. Press on
You are a poster for whg and Indo European admixture. Maybe talk about the migrations into Europe and the replacement of the early farmers by the Indo European or let’s say bell beaker folks.
Very informative, interesting!
Whoever said "Don't poop in the woods" hasn't done much hiking.😅
Keep it coming Kayleigh ... PS: While you're on this topic, please let us know what you think about the reason why Göbekli Tepe was intentionally buried (if that is indeed what happened). For me personally, that blows my mind: why? why? why? PS.2: As you say, food and free time may've been abundant; accordingly, folks might've been selling/bartering surplus food. The animals carvings may've functioned as signposts for certain food items ... OK, I mean like a butcher shop or even selling live animals: take them home and breed them or butcher them when you get peckish ... I just think that not EVERYTHING has to represent a God or be a bloody temple. Let's face it, and with respect, those carvings don't look like they were done by a master mason (maybe an apprentice, but y'know what I mean).
Maybe they buried it because they were being invaded? As we know from history, invasion forces often destroy native buildings. European forces did this a lot in South America, for example. Then they hoped to return but were wiped out in the invasion, maybe? Of course, it could also be that they just wanted future generations to one day discover their knowledge, which does sound like a better story.
@@KittyBoom360 Thank you for that. I thought about that, too. However, to my mind, an invasion would come all of a sudden and allow no time to bury such a large area as what's been uncovered at Göbekli Tepe. Repeated invasions? OK, maybe. But if the attackers were so ineffective that they needed chance after chance to conquer, burying the place seems disproportionate to the threat - How long would it have taken to cover it all? As to your second idea: Yeah, that's where I'm at ... but why? Maybe the answer lies in the parts not yet excavated.
@@futurescalling Yeah, it just makes you think too that no matter the threat that caused them to bury it, they obviously thought it was important to preserve, and for that we are incredibly fortunate.
Newest research 🧐 indicates that it was buried naturally by landslides and earthquakes.That makes sense
@@margadebenport7352 Thanks for that. Yeah, I'm not surprised to hear that. It just never really made sense to me that it was intentionally buried. I mean burying something on that scale would take 10(?) times longer than it took to construct it in the first place ... and to what end? Have a good day.
Love this theory about rebuilding monuments, it's very human; we still do it. The evidence that speaks the most to me about what "caused" the Younger Dryas is the black mat layer that coincides. I think this points to an impact or a large volcanic eruption. But nobody can even speculate without a named crater or volcano to point to. Even if there is an almost global black mat layer, mass extinction of mega fauna, and microscopic particles that all act as proxy evidence for every other impact, the gatekeepers of knowledge are very slow to accept new ideas without a lot of concrete proof. For good or ill, it's probably the best we can do right now.
Which is what brings some to theorize that it was an impact to the Laurentide Ice Sheet. This could also explain a rapid melt of the ice and overflow of this melted fresh water into the North Atlantic. We will never know, as in this case, evidence of a crater is not possible. All plausible theories. I guess sometimes the best thing to do is to acknowledge that 'something' happened that caused this what that 'something' is, we will never know for sure.
💖 the video and your new studio! Not able to go with you to Egypt, but would if I could. You will have a fabulous time!
Interesting videos here. I wish I had found before. Subbed.
Wise Up is also an excellent channel which explains some archeology.
Great video. Thanks. I agree. I also think that using the term Atlantis doesn't help the situation because it's clearly described as a near global civilization of ten different kingdoms and not just an island. And it was most likely not called Atlantis by it's citizens.
From Northen Africa to Southern Italy is hardly Global.
HI Kayleigh. I was just at Carrowkeel megalithic tombs the other day. First time there and it was fantastic. Carrowmore is on my next list. Surely if they rebuilt these in stone, there would be some evidence of wood remains.
Nice to see someone pretty AND smart. Usually you get one or the other. Great work! Subscribed 😄
Breadcrumbs Kayleigh.. breadcrumbs... ;)
Always believed you're onto something with your work, and I do agree with your working hypothesis... always look forward to seeing what you have to say regarding the great mystery, and know that even bigger breakthroughs are inevitable... Keep up the great work! :)
Could structures have been rebuilt on the same site? Yes, but I've no idea how we could identify which ones. You're in the Uk now right? Look at recent photos of Wembley Stadium. Compare these with footage of when it was first built in 1923. It's completely different because, it was rebuilt. Same place, same function, different design. Why? Because it wore out and ancient structures would wear out it same way.
Step back and look at archeology as a whole. It’s hard to find a city, fort or house that was NOT built upon an older site of something.
It's certainly plausible in at least some cases but you've picked a rather tall hill to climb in proving it.
Speaking for myself I find it plausible either way. Certainly something could be a reconstruction of something that preceded it on the same site.
Conversely it's entirely possible there was some sort of ancient building holiday for reasons that are unknown to us.
The evidence necessary to demonstrate this one way or the other has possibly been lost to time.
There is room for both you and Matt in the world!😀
Great video, Kayleigh...👍