As a Ranger, you start as a traffic cop. As a Wing Diver, you start as a stunt flier. As an Air Raider, you start as an engineer. As a Fencer, you start as a warehouse worker. Regardless of who you choose, by the end, you're basically like Doomguy
6:45 in EDF 6 Mission 117, the EDF soldiers quickly change from "We're doomed" to "Don't let the civilian die!" as soon as Storm-One starts taking matters in their hands. And that's one of my favorite moments in the series.
Thanks for watching! It definitely is a scene that shows Storm One as a symbol of hope for the EDF. It especially feels special because we know how things were supposed to turn out in EDF5.
In the story text introduction on the manual, the air raider is a mechanic that constantly maintains and repair all vehicles and devices, that's why he knows all those codes while been a civilian.
Thanks for watching! I think that explains the air raider's knowledge of vehicles, but the codes are military secrets, so there should be no reason a civilian should know them.
Storm One can be seen as an anomaly which destroys everything every building You destroy is with somekind of purpose now, every unorthodox strategy You might've used is Canon now.
I think that Storm 1 has 4 members, the 4 different classes. Because of storm 2 is the seargent with his squad, storm 3 is the Spriggans (Wing diver squad) and lastly storm 4 is the Grim Reapers (Fencer squad). and every one of these squads have 4 members if memory serves. But if you play singleplayer on this game then of course storm 1 is a 1 man squad. In case people hate because I put the spriggans and grim reapers in wrong storm number I don't remember if the Spriggans or the Grim Reapers was storm 3 or 4.
Thanks for watching! Dialogue wise it seems that Storm 1 points to one person, so canonically Storm 1 is one person. However, gameplay wise, they do provide some vehicles for every player on multiplayer (EMC, Armament barga, etc.) so I can see why it can be seen as a 4 member team. The Spriggans and Grim Reapers are the other way around, but don't worry, nobody's going to hate you for that.
Thanks for watching! Since Storm one experienced the past timelines, they know how the Primers will attack at what timing, so they use that knowledge to preemptively deal with many of the Primers' offense.
Thanks for watching! To be honest, Storm One is one step ahead of both of them in that they don't have any direct modifications made to their body (at least as far as we know). EDF headquarters did get one kill off of them though, which is ironic.
I'm going to be honest. The professor saying it's the 6th time he tried to contact you probably just means he tried to get in contact with him 6 times.... not six timelines.
So basically this canonizes the first 2 games and the 2017 4.1 dualogy Just because it’s new aliens does not mean you stop being a professional bug killer
Thank you for watching! Actually, EDF5+EDF6 are completely different universes from EDF3+4 and the first two games. It's just that there are multiple timelines that we can't observe where Storm One fought against the Primers, and these timelines have no relation to the previous EDF games.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 this is true however It seems no matter who invades brave men and women and a superhuman guy with a rocket launcher will always repel them So they could be but likely aren’t
@@mechzilla569 I think we are about to find out. The first DLC pack has been announced for 6 and it’s a story pack that appears to be set before 5. Also I would say that the ring’s aesthetic would rule out being cannon to previous titles besides 5. We are told the ring has been constant, and it’s aesthetic matches with the aesthetic of the primers seen in 5, which to me implies that they were made around the same time. This aesthetic does not match previous games which discounts the idea that they are connected.
@@mechzilla569 the point I am making about the aesthetics is that the ring has a similar design as the motherships and teleportation fleet. From this we can assume that these are the first ships sent to the past from the time of the rings construction during the first timeline. If they are still using them during the last timeline, even with the new teleportation ships, I would say it’s safe to assume that they are now a constant in the timeline and, more speculatively, the new ships are special in someway that makes it more advantageous to send back when the ring shows up, then the ships with golden armor. Furthermore, while aesthetics can change, I would argue that we do not see quite the level of change throughout 6 to argue that the primers and EDF changed their designs to the extant that would be needed to make games before EDF 5 canon to 6 and 5. My comments about aesthetics do not cause issue with the introduction of the final boss. While I am a bit confused on why they took the head of the silver man and attached it to a machine, it falls in line with what the designs seen from 5 and the ring. It’s likely from several years if not decades into the future from when the ring was built, so the change in design is to be expected. Even the silver man being used is not out of left field, as the game clearly shows he was not on the ship in that timeline. How he went back to the future I am unsure, but it’s established their time travel does go both ways. For the new biological enemies, I see a couple of possibilities: The first is that they were always there, but never showed themselves; the second is that they were able to get additional support from the future, this is supported by the defense that come from the ring itself in the later timelines; and the third is more relevant to the monster, is that they are breeding and evolving them during the war with humanity and they bring these with them when they go back in time. The real answer could honestly be a mix of these as time travel made the teleportation devices used by the primers a lot more complicated as it implies they are being grabbed from some different point in the timeline, instead of just some different point in space due to the lack of actual transports that would be needed to carry an army this large
Its a interesting decision using the crqzy time travel, but i still prefer the way things were on 2017 and 2025 where it was one continued invasion fought through 2 games
Thanks for watching! I think one reason the developers may have went to the time travel route is because the ending of EDF5 is not that much of a victory compared to the other EDF games (humanity barely surviving, Storm 1 being the only Storm team member alive). It's probably a matter of whether you like the classic continued invasion or the new twist of trying to outdo each other across multiple timelines.
I found the crosses in the names of the missions to be weird. Do the later timelines have the corresponding amount of crosses? Also it didn't explain why Storm 1 couldn't destroy the teleportation ships early on in 5 before Sarge suggests that they shoot the ship when the hatch opens.
Thank you for watching! Yes, the later timelines do have the corresponding amount of crosses, which is one of the main factors that confirm the number of times Storm One time travels. As for why Storm One doesn't destroy the teleportation ships early on in 5, it's most likely to avoid a time paradox from occurring, since this is the main reasons why Storm One doesn't try to attempt anything too crazy until the EDF8 timeline.
I see 2 different reasons for why you do not shoot down the saucers in 5. The first is the risk of a time paradox, and the second one is to hide the fact that the professor and storm one is time traveling from the primers. In 6, the ring starts relatively unprotected in early missions. Near the end of the story, the primers are said to be getting suspicious and increasing the amount of defenses around the ring. So I think the professor wanted to hide their interference as purely reactions to the interference of the primers, which is why you keep changes minimal during the early timelines of 6 and start changing things drastically later.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 Not really, it is nice to see unique and meaningful relationships even if they are the same gender. But if they are surely for agenda purposes or just to be "unique" because we are "different", then it the relationship loses all substance. l remember the cute relationship you could have as a female protagonist in Jade empire with a Queen, she even acknowledges how weird or different it is. Not just " the player is the same gender(male or undefined)"
what if storm 1 is actually the protagonist from every game and him constantly time traveling has caused Earths invasions to be different every time let me quote a certain speedster "you break the sound barrier you get a sonic boom, Break the time barrier time boom" he keeps time traveling and each game is a just another timeline.
Thanks for watching! Is there any point in specific that you didn't agree with? I know that my reasoning is not perfect, so having some outside insight might help create a better theory.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 Going to spitball and say the Captain was just the right man at the right time. Nothing else. It also leaves a plot thread open that someone else ordered the attack on the ring.
That is completely true to be honest. Since we know very little about the past timelines, anything could have happened, and that's also part of the fun of the EDF lore.
Not thru much yet but you don’t need a license for fencer armor, but for powered exoskeletons, and as for air raider or ranger using them, it is the middle of battle who gives a crap? As long as they aren’t actively harming allies, it is fine
Thanks for watching! I feel that if a civilian hopped on to a powered frame and started shooting all of a sudden, the people around them have every right to be worried and scared
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 first off I’d be more scared of all the giant creatures spitting acid and thread and biting people than someone not licensed to use a mech using that mech. Second off, the civilian air raider is said to be licensed to use military vehicles. I got nothing for Ranger, though. Also, in my head canon, storm 1 is canonically an air raider since the Spriggan (storm (either 3 or 4 I forgot (I think 4))) are wing divers, storm (I think 3) is grim reaper fencers, and storm 2 is the sergeant (yes just him) who is a ranger. Process of elimination gets you Air Raider for storm 1.
In the video, I was trying to point out why Storm One was even able to pilot the mechs (especially for classes without vehicles) in the first place, since the EDF seems to accept the fact that Storm One can actually use the mechs. I can see where it might have come off as otherwise though. As for Storm One being canonically air raider, I think that's totally plausible. There is a "named" Combat Frame pilot named Second Lieutenant Dan, but he's not part of the Storm team, so I think your theory still stands.
As a Ranger, you start as a traffic cop.
As a Wing Diver, you start as a stunt flier.
As an Air Raider, you start as an engineer.
As a Fencer, you start as a warehouse worker.
Regardless of who you choose, by the end, you're basically like Doomguy
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Half a war of fighting sure does change a person
DOOMSquad*
6:45 in EDF 6 Mission 117, the EDF soldiers quickly change from "We're doomed" to "Don't let the civilian die!" as soon as Storm-One starts taking matters in their hands.
And that's one of my favorite moments in the series.
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It definitely is a scene that shows Storm One as a symbol of hope for the EDF. It especially feels special because we know how things were supposed to turn out in EDF5.
(Ranger) Storm 1 is a superhuman who can throw a grenade at about 904 km/h.
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I guess a lot of things can happen when you fight for too long
I think storm 1 can killing all the aliens easily.
Storm One is Doomguy's Grandfather.
In the story text introduction on the manual, the air raider is a mechanic that constantly maintains and repair all vehicles and devices, that's why he knows all those codes while been a civilian.
Thanks for watching!
I think that explains the air raider's knowledge of vehicles, but the codes are military secrets, so there should be no reason a civilian should know them.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 at first I thought sergeant gave us the codes in 5 as civ to protect ourselves
Storm One can be seen as an anomaly which destroys everything
every building You destroy is with somekind of purpose now, every unorthodox strategy You might've used is Canon now.
Dual wielding 30mm canons as a fuck you to the primers that's 60mm of pure hatred.
I think that Storm 1 has 4 members, the 4 different classes. Because of storm 2 is the seargent with his squad, storm 3 is the Spriggans (Wing diver squad) and lastly storm 4 is the Grim Reapers (Fencer squad). and every one of these squads have 4 members if memory serves.
But if you play singleplayer on this game then of course storm 1 is a 1 man squad.
In case people hate because I put the spriggans and grim reapers in wrong storm number
I don't remember if the Spriggans or the Grim Reapers was storm 3 or 4.
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Dialogue wise it seems that Storm 1 points to one person, so canonically Storm 1 is one person. However, gameplay wise, they do provide some vehicles for every player on multiplayer (EMC, Armament barga, etc.) so I can see why it can be seen as a 4 member team.
The Spriggans and Grim Reapers are the other way around, but don't worry, nobody's going to hate you for that.
Im suprised they were able to implement time travel in the story without making it confusing or boring lol
Protagonist-kun so damn strong.
Or Protagonist-chan in case of wing waifu.
I think storm 1 knows what happens in the future so he can save the human.
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Since Storm one experienced the past timelines, they know how the Primers will attack at what timing, so they use that knowledge to preemptively deal with many of the Primers' offense.
Nah bro. He ain't no lame ass supersoldier like steve. He's a goddamn Primarch level Space Marine. Dude took down gods and dragons like its nothing.
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To be honest, Storm One is one step ahead of both of them in that they don't have any direct modifications made to their body (at least as far as we know). EDF headquarters did get one kill off of them though, which is ironic.
"During your own playthrough"
How dare you taunt me like this, JP PlayStore user.
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Well...all I can do is hope for the Western release to come soon lol
I'm going to be honest. The professor saying it's the 6th time he tried to contact you probably just means he tried to get in contact with him 6 times.... not six timelines.
So basically this canonizes the first 2 games and the 2017 4.1 dualogy
Just because it’s new aliens does not mean you stop being a professional bug killer
Thank you for watching!
Actually, EDF5+EDF6 are completely different universes from EDF3+4 and the first two games.
It's just that there are multiple timelines that we can't observe where Storm One fought against the Primers, and these timelines have no relation to the previous EDF games.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 this is true however
It seems no matter who invades brave men and women and a superhuman guy with a rocket launcher will always repel them
So they could be but likely aren’t
@@mechzilla569 I think we are about to find out. The first DLC pack has been announced for 6 and it’s a story pack that appears to be set before 5. Also I would say that the ring’s aesthetic would rule out being cannon to previous titles besides 5. We are told the ring has been constant, and it’s aesthetic matches with the aesthetic of the primers seen in 5, which to me implies that they were made around the same time. This aesthetic does not match previous games which discounts the idea that they are connected.
@@meh1977 fair but how will that explain the final boss and new aliens
I mean asthetics can evolve through time
@@mechzilla569 the point I am making about the aesthetics is that the ring has a similar design as the motherships and teleportation fleet. From this we can assume that these are the first ships sent to the past from the time of the rings construction during the first timeline. If they are still using them during the last timeline, even with the new teleportation ships, I would say it’s safe to assume that they are now a constant in the timeline and, more speculatively, the new ships are special in someway that makes it more advantageous to send back when the ring shows up, then the ships with golden armor. Furthermore, while aesthetics can change, I would argue that we do not see quite the level of change throughout 6 to argue that the primers and EDF changed their designs to the extant that would be needed to make games before EDF 5 canon to 6 and 5.
My comments about aesthetics do not cause issue with the introduction of the final boss. While I am a bit confused on why they took the head of the silver man and attached it to a machine, it falls in line with what the designs seen from 5 and the ring. It’s likely from several years if not decades into the future from when the ring was built, so the change in design is to be expected. Even the silver man being used is not out of left field, as the game clearly shows he was not on the ship in that timeline. How he went back to the future I am unsure, but it’s established their time travel does go both ways. For the new biological enemies, I see a couple of possibilities: The first is that they were always there, but never showed themselves; the second is that they were able to get additional support from the future, this is supported by the defense that come from the ring itself in the later timelines; and the third is more relevant to the monster, is that they are breeding and evolving them during the war with humanity and they bring these with them when they go back in time. The real answer could honestly be a mix of these as time travel made the teleportation devices used by the primers a lot more complicated as it implies they are being grabbed from some different point in the timeline, instead of just some different point in space due to the lack of actual transports that would be needed to carry an army this large
Good video Akatsuki!
Thanks you for watching!
Thx for the video
Very interesting
Awesome
Nice >:3
Its a interesting decision using the crqzy time travel, but i still prefer the way things were on 2017 and 2025 where it was one continued invasion fought through 2 games
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I think one reason the developers may have went to the time travel route is because the ending of EDF5 is not that much of a victory compared to the other EDF games (humanity barely surviving, Storm 1 being the only Storm team member alive). It's probably a matter of whether you like the classic continued invasion or the new twist of trying to outdo each other across multiple timelines.
wait wait wait wait wait, I've only played EDF 4 and 4.1 (doing '17 now), and you're telling me they added time travel in future EDF games?????
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They definitely did, and that's what makes the enemies in EDF5 and 6 so threatening.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 I ain't gonna lie, the designs do look super cool.
I found the crosses in the names of the missions to be weird. Do the later timelines have the corresponding amount of crosses?
Also it didn't explain why Storm 1 couldn't destroy the teleportation ships early on in 5 before Sarge suggests that they shoot the ship when the hatch opens.
Thank you for watching!
Yes, the later timelines do have the corresponding amount of crosses, which is one of the main factors that confirm the number of times Storm One time travels.
As for why Storm One doesn't destroy the teleportation ships early on in 5, it's most likely to avoid a time paradox from occurring, since this is the main reasons why Storm One doesn't try to attempt anything too crazy until the EDF8 timeline.
I see 2 different reasons for why you do not shoot down the saucers in 5. The first is the risk of a time paradox, and the second one is to hide the fact that the professor and storm one is time traveling from the primers. In 6, the ring starts relatively unprotected in early missions. Near the end of the story, the primers are said to be getting suspicious and increasing the amount of defenses around the ring. So I think the professor wanted to hide their interference as purely reactions to the interference of the primers, which is why you keep changes minimal during the early timelines of 6 and start changing things drastically later.
@@meh1977 You'd think they would've caught on by the fact each time they lost harder and harder
l find it funny how the female officer confesses her love to the Wing Diver Storm 1.
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In this day and age, I guess anything goes ;)
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 Not really, it is nice to see unique and meaningful relationships even if they are the same gender. But if they are surely for agenda purposes or just to be "unique" because we are "different", then it the relationship loses all substance.
l remember the cute relationship you could have as a female protagonist in Jade empire with a Queen, she even acknowledges how weird or different it is. Not just " the player is the same gender(male or undefined)"
what if storm 1 is actually the protagonist from every game and him constantly time traveling has caused Earths invasions to be different every time let me quote a certain speedster "you break the sound barrier you get a sonic boom, Break the time barrier time boom" he keeps time traveling and each game is a just another timeline.
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That definitely would be cool, Storm One as the guardian of humanity across all timelines.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 its possible if time travel is there is no reason dimension travel isnt.
if all this is cannon then why do we still have to farm for all these armor boxes?
While I dont agree with everything. I enjoyed this immensely. Nice work.
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Is there any point in specific that you didn't agree with? I know that my reasoning is not perfect, so having some outside insight might help create a better theory.
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 Going to spitball and say the Captain was just the right man at the right time. Nothing else. It also leaves a plot thread open that someone else ordered the attack on the ring.
That is completely true to be honest. Since we know very little about the past timelines, anything could have happened, and that's also part of the fun of the EDF lore.
So farming for better equipment is canon
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The more farming we do, the more effort the Professor needs to remember all the technology...
Not thru much yet but you don’t need a license for fencer armor, but for powered exoskeletons, and as for air raider or ranger using them, it is the middle of battle who gives a crap? As long as they aren’t actively harming allies, it is fine
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I feel that if a civilian hopped on to a powered frame and started shooting all of a sudden, the people around them have every right to be worried and scared
@@akatsukihachiryu5590 first off I’d be more scared of all the giant creatures spitting acid and thread and biting people than someone not licensed to use a mech using that mech. Second off, the civilian air raider is said to be licensed to use military vehicles. I got nothing for Ranger, though. Also, in my head canon, storm 1 is canonically an air raider since the Spriggan (storm (either 3 or 4 I forgot (I think 4))) are wing divers, storm (I think 3) is grim reaper fencers, and storm 2 is the sergeant (yes just him) who is a ranger. Process of elimination gets you Air Raider for storm 1.
In the video, I was trying to point out why Storm One was even able to pilot the mechs (especially for classes without vehicles) in the first place, since the EDF seems to accept the fact that Storm One can actually use the mechs. I can see where it might have come off as otherwise though.
As for Storm One being canonically air raider, I think that's totally plausible. There is a "named" Combat Frame pilot named Second Lieutenant Dan, but he's not part of the Storm team, so I think your theory still stands.
Dude speaks in questions. Bro you learned English from the wrong people.