Case 207: Suzanne Armstrong & Susan Bartlett
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In early January 1977, residents of Easey Street in Melbourne’s inner-city suburb of Collingwood noticed they hadn’t seen the tenants at number 147 for several days...
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Hey Colin. Breaking into a women's house, entering her bedroom via the window just to check her phone number is totally normal.
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Strange, that there was quite some human traffic, 4 people and no one noticed the dead women and the distraught baby
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I'm fascinated by the crime solving techniques and how these POS are caught, not the carnage.
There's one thing that makes me believe the killer was known to the victims, whoever killed them got past the dog.
it was a puppy tho sounds like
Yes you are so right ✅. No unknown person can get passed any dog, no matter the breed or size
Don't be silly. A puppy behaves in a submissive way almost 100 percent.@@roslynweidemann9487
German shepherd too. Very alert to strangers. Even as puppies. Have GSD puppy right now if anyone diaagrees
Was not meant to be a guard dog, kids pet and Suzanne I think loved dogs......read she accidently ran over a dog once and was more distressed than the owner.
Police incompetency in this case should be a crime in its own right…
I think the door knock missed a crucial address or 2, so ordinary there.......should have interviewed Gayle Suzanne's sister, maybe picked up some names Suzanne knew or where she went.....no other real possible leads to follow up.
The police have a lot of answering too, and Gladys was very silly not giving a second interview, I hope justice will be served for The Sue's
I think the best they would have got out of Gladys would have been which way the killer went when exiting onto Easey street from the rear of house and out the laneway past Glady's window which would have been important and possibly the color of his hair and length and build of the killer. Would not have been enough to get the killer I reckon, the guy more than likely had not been in the house before anyway. Even though I think the police may know the color of his hair, the two girls did put up a good struggle and you would think girls pull hair ( having 2 sisters is first hand experience of that ) and long hair was in back then.
Girls would have already been murdered......Police would have known that. Evidence in Suzanne Armstrong's room makes that pretty clear. This new so called evidence really has flaws but interesting enough.
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he has a very attractive voice. it just sets the mood.
I saw forensic photo's of this crime scene and I was shocked to the core at the amount of blood in the apartment
Where abouts is a good place to see forensic photos?
@@erics5572 I was shown them by a police officer who I was dating. I wanted to see them as the easy St murders had not been solved in 1987. I mentioned the topic one day at the police station and Winston (not his real name) showed them too me.
Would have been a lot of blood but not for that amount of stab wounds........Suzanne Armstrong's bedroom could explain that. Possibly.
What is distressing to me about this case, besides being unsolved, is what the house must have smelled like. How could they not notice? Booze, I assume.
A sad story. And very creepy.
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A friend of mine used to live a few doors up from this place while the area was still very seedy! I still drive past here often.
When I was a young guy growing up in Melbourne I thought booze and a party gone wrong back then. Not correct at all, you just get that impression from early media reports. Both girls were well read, loved to travel and worked hard for their goals. No alcohol found in the girls bodies even though I think alcohol can be clear after a period of time. But certainly not a boozy night. Those little cottages are pretty well ventilated from what I have read as well.
I immediately thought the same thing if the claims of either of those 2 men, saying they went into the house the night of the murders, are to be believed. That much blood would have emitted a very powerful odour. There would be no missing it. They'd have to have been extremely drunk not to notice it...never mind not noticing 2 dead bodies and a blood bath before them!
Prettybwell ventilated those old workers cottages and high ceilings......
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Did Gregory ever get to know his heartbroken father left behind in Greece by Suzanne?
Yes......Tom Prior had a big hand in that, which was a great success when Greg met his father in Greece, some island there. Many people jumped in with their hands up for no gain, also a lawyer lady who went out of her way to make sure Greg stayed in Australia legally in the care of Suzannes's sister Gayle, just incase of problems down the track.
From what I have heard about his case, they have never tried genetic geneology which has solved many cases in America.
I don't understand the point of breaking into someones house and not going through the whole house. You obviously don't respect boundaries so go snoop through the house. I have never met people who feel the need to break into my home if I don't answer the phone, concerned, call the police.
This was the 70’s people were laid back then, everyone would be over each other’s houses all the time, doors were left open…
Don't think anyone really broke into the house, even the salesman guy who climbed through the window who was trying to get in touch with Susan Bartlett...........A calculated guess says he knew the latch on the window may have been broken, he did stay a night after dinner in the city with Susan Bartlett the previous week, being summer it was probably a humid night and he opened the window from the inside, just a guess but, noticing the latch or window was broken. Innocent without doubt.
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Thank you for mentioning books! I keep looking these books up on audible for the Australian cases and nobody has reviewed them! Sooooo underrated!
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Oh yes I know this case a little bit. Just awful, horrible. As with any violent attack, it is without purpose save to serve the ego of the person who thinks they are meant to play God and break the hearts as well as haunt families for a lifetime
Damn Gladys was ice cold
Don't think so......Story has been over played a bit I reckon. If you research the Policce Forensic guy Henry Huggins findings it's very probable the girls were murdered just over 3 hours before. Totally ignored in the Gladys and boys new stories. Can't do that.
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Otherwise known as the Easey Street murders.
Wow, the police were either totally incompetent or lazy af. They should be ashamed.
Pretty sure they missed one address, if they missed one they may have missed some more. How they done that one can only guess.
"colin " was virtually brand new unknown quantity really .
How can we assume he wasn't rejected after her first evening?
He claims he was waiting for a date - how do we know that was true ? Do phone records prove he rang ?
Even if he did - he may have been trying to pressure her ? Does "colin " have form of any kind ?
Knowing the layout of the house - why would he not at least try the front or back door ?
Surely much easier than trying to climb into a bedroom window ???
In any case - its not something a virtually a stranger should even think about doing .
"to check a phone number " ??? Bizarre and non plausible ! I would merely assume ....
"she at least has my number - she must have changed her mind about me " -
(Especially so if "colin" was indeed the perpetrator)
either incredibly compelling -or incredibly dumb .
Pretty sure this suspect was eliminated years later when DNA testing took place. He would have been one of the eight main suspects the police listed. All were cleared.
Yet another disgraceful display of police apathy, negligence, arrogance. What the hell do they have to be arrogant about? Unbelievable. Ordinarily, one would assume a frenzied attack like that would be personal but despite Peter's claims seemingly falling on deaf ears, I think his proposal sounds plausible and frankly, the only genuinely likely lead or suspect they've ever had! So what do the police do? Nada. I imagine that the ph call the journalist got was from the real killer who, if it was the guy Peter claims it to be, is now dead. Why wouldn't they even investigate that avenue of inquiry? What have they got to lose? What's the point of having a reward for information and even protection from prosecution if the police are unwilling to properly look into all leads? It's baffling beyond belief. Those poor women. That was savagery at its worst. And that poor little baby boy. I'm glad he's grown and has the chance at making a life of his own. Hopefully one day the police will pull their fingers out and actual do some police work! Edit: Whoever was responsible must have been absolutely dripping with blood...how does anyone not get noticed in that state? Even if they attempted to clean themselves up at the scene?
Police door knock may have missed an important address, if you miss 1 they probably missed another. As for the boys up the road and Gladys next door, nothing in it, impossible........ maybe why police never followed up. Evidence in Suzanne Armstrong's room looks like the girls were murdered just over 3 hours before on the 10th. No way Susan Bartlett was in the Kitchen on the 11th morning with a guy. Gladys must have got the days mixed up considering the bodies were not found for 60 hours later. Seeing a guy with a knife, baffleing ??????
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Must have taken a bit of time to research and put this podcast together, certainly not knocked up over a few cans in one sitting, very good considering the time it went for. Probably should have had a bit more content from the first book "They Trusted Men ( Tom Prior 1996 ) but not too bad overall........I'm sure the killers identity from Tom Prior's interviews from some who knew Suzanne Armstrong very well leads to the killer from dates, locations and employment in his book. The mystery would have to be somewhere in between, without a computer screen to look into nowdays its a bit hard for police to think for themselves it seems.
Also I did notice a minor detail in the podcast that was mentioned, John Grant the crime journalist and his workmate Iona Stevens went out on the 11th Jan. and returned back to her home 149 Easey st. to play pool and a few drinks down the back of the house which was Tuesday, by then the girls would have already been dead for 24 hours. I think the girls were murdered on the 10th Jan. Monday, probably sometime between 10.30pm and Midnight before Iona's girlfriend returned home after a shift in a Carlton restaurant where she worked.
Is there a list of suspects somewhere? I’m getting that there are 2 suspects and 1, if not both, have been on the radar. I’m getting a strong P. Actually, I got a rephrase on F first. Phillip?
None.....All cleared twice with DNA tests. Pretty good chance that is correct.
too many intrusive / long ads...
really distracts from the stories...
Very well told but I don’t like unsolved cases. I should have looked the case up before I listened. That’s an error I’ll correct in future.
Me too
I’m not happy about unsolved cases either.
Yeah I'm same. I usually don't listen if I know the perpetrator/s weren't caught. My blood boils.
You never know if you could be the key in solving unsolved cases though. I bet the families of the victims hate that it's unsolved even more.
the last quote saved the whole show. that was chilling af!
wtf
idiotic comment
I’m two minutes in and already cannot believe how Janet and Alona didn’t check on them earlier - what’s wrong with people today?!!
Today ??? It happend in 1977
@@loredanadincu7930 I know. And to say it was back in 1977 it makes it worse.
@@Irunwithscissors63 no it doesen't.
@@loredanadincu7930 of course it does. Today people are more cowardly, lazy and narcissistic. Back then not so much. So it does make it worse. Especially as it was her boyfriend. If I cared about someone I wouldn’t give a toss if it ‘made me uncomfortable’ to enter the house - especially as there was a toddler in there.
@@Irunwithscissors63 listen I am done contradicting with you. No one vad to think or act the way you do. We are all different at that time and how too. The two took the dog in, waited to see if their neighbours will came after the dog after they let the note. They go to check after two days . They still have a merrit for doing that. Others would not go in to check no matter what. They didn't seem so cloose as neighbours. So they have a merrit again for doing even that. And where was the brother that was at their house that night and which the narator said visit them constantly. Why he didn't go to them for two days and wasn't even worried?
Geee.....the cops must have been a little lax...sounds very dodgy -
both males storys sound too strange
Yotall going todie
They really messed up on this investigation and you have to remember the times where alternate life styles were seen as deviant. The police missed important information by a neighbour who witnessed a man leaving the night these two women were murdered and they treated her like a mad old bat. When they came back after realising their mistake she refused to talk to them. Add the fact the Police thought these two murdered women slept with so many men it was anyone’s guess who killed them. Too late now but it was the times. Add to that violent rapists were let out of jail for weekend leave at the time to adjust to society and other leave and it was thought all they needed was a (wife) and regular sex to settle them down. There are probably suspects we don’t even know about. I can think of at least one who fits the pattern of murder who was supposed to be locked up at the time but may have been out on such leave.
If it was a rapist or sexual deviate police may have uncovered something, not to be. This looks like a one off killer where everything went wrong and probably not even a parking ticket to his name.
Gladys at the time was not important........Girls were already murdered 3 hours before, evidence in Suzanne's room shows that is very very likely.
Ok, so I dosed off and missed a bit.
I ran it back 2 or 3 times but,
They didn't catch the killer, did they?
no they didn't!
Was the brother ruled out?
That was my thought too, but I didn't heard the narator said anything about that. That my have explained why Suzanne was the only one molested too but not Sue.
@@loredanadincu7930 Yes exactly. You would think with the existence of viable dna that they would surely be able to locate the perpetrator now too.
@@nickc6306 the narator said they ruled out the primary suspects. Nothing about the brother being on a list of suspects. Maybe he had an alibi. As for geneaology DNA if I recall corectly those who are working the case are thinking to do it in the future ( the narator said it)
I would have liked to have known the date when the Brother ( Martin Bartlett ) said to police he heard Susan Armstrong on the phone talking to a policeman when him and his girlfriend were there on the night the girls were murdered ???? I don't know if the case may have been going cold or not but it may have been a decoy in getting police going again. Brother was devastated which one can expect and totally innocent like all the 8 main POI and 120 odd others. That is why he has not been caught.
@@loredanadincu7930 From other sources that I have read, yes, the brother was eliminated as a suspect by DNA testing years later. Not that he was ever a strong suspect but the police wanted to eliminate him as a possibility.
Yea one of the men that entered their apartment definitely did it no question about it
All cleared by DNA testing years later.
It's so sad that this case is still unsolved why haven't they used DNA ancestry it's just unbelievable.
Any one got information for the American girl who went missing ?
What?
That narrows it down.
@@1888.cfc. the American girl who was 18 met for a apparent business meeting with one of the suspects mentioned. She's been missing all this time no info so sad
@@khijir2 oh ok.. I didn't listen to it all I don't like the ones where the perpetrators ain't caught.
Don't believe it is linked to this case, no body found and possibly two people involved not one like Easey st.......odd the criminal reporter was with them at the flat, he knew quite well the 2 guys would have no interest in opening their own restaurant with the American girl with their past police records.
It's sad that woman can't seem to enjoy the company of many men without all the creeps, weirdos, stalkers and bad guys crawling out of the woodwork. Yet most men can enjoy the company of many woman without any consequences at all.
Yeah like when men get no say on whether to have an unplanned child, unfair treatment in courts in relation to anything to do with their kids and then have to give their home and half their shit to the ex wife and new boyfriend that gets to spend more time with your kids than you do. This is how it goes almost every time. Sounds fun
@@rosstitute88 if you put your dick in without a condom...you had a say, you chose to have unprotected sex knowing full well what could potentially happen.
were you expecting a nintendo switch console???
get a vasectomy if you dont want children, or to practice safe sex!!!
In the old days arsonic was a big thing for the ladies with their disruptive man. Technology was not as good back then.
Adulterers and fornicators God will judge
@@rosstitute88you have a choice: no sex, condoms, or vasectomies. Having to support a child you helped create is not even a little bit comparable to getting stalked and/or murdered. In fact, comparing the two is pretty pathetic.
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Can you make a podcast about the abuse and murder of 7 yr old Adrian Jones? I don't him or his story to be forgotten.
Very strange that two men who knew one of the victims claimed to have been in her house secretly on the night she was murdered but no arrests were made.
were they friends or were they "friends" cause it was 1970s lol
cause i could see a man finding out theyre gay and murdering both; he was attracted to the one he raped and overkilled the other woman because he was jealous thats who his crush was with/attracted to....
Nothing like that.......Susan Bartlett worked close by at a school and Suzanne Armstrong was a single mum finding it difficult financially as it was in that era. Beneficial to both.
Omg, they were roommates 😅
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The audio is fine and working
Yep. For me it's working fine.
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Nice woman taking her greek born child to Australia without a thought for his father. Wonder if he got custody after her death.
The narator said her sister got the custody of the boy
Yeah I thought that wasn’t nice of her,poor father
I think the Greek Islands get very cold in the winter like the mother in law who lived with them at the time. Greek mums may be very protective of sons too. Not a good thing to leave but that does not make her a bad mother.
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WTF? "Unsolved" should be clearly stated before spending this much time listening. HATE unsolved crap. Unsubscribed
You " lovely " person this are real ases about real people. You don't like involved cases what ? Your comment is a disgrace and an offense to the families of those who where killed. This is not a story channel for 5 year old that want only stories with an end. Go listen some fake creepy pasta stories.
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Maybe re runs of Kojak and Columbo are more up your alley. Both can solve a crime in less than an hour and that's including adds.
I bet the families of the victims hate that it's unsolved even more.