Your first LiPo charger should be the ISDT 608AC (vs. Hobbymate D6 Duo)
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The ISDT 608AC should be your first LiPo charger because it's the right price, it's got ISDT quality, it's got enough power to charge typical FPV packs as fast as is safe, it's got a built in power supply, and it's got one more trick up its sleeve that no other AC-capable charger can do!
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After watching this I've concluded that there's a 80% chance that I'll light myself on fire charging my first lipo.
Lmao same here, I just want to get to flying and not worrying about blowing my house up or my new drone up
Lmao, I died of laughter after reading this 😂
@@TwerpZ if you got something thats a 3inch or bigger.. pause.
get li-ion packs they have longer flight times and are alot safer/stable than lipos although if you wanna do freestyle/racing than stick to lipos
just purchased this to go with my first quad, im so nervous and also wow i've spent a lot of money today
I hear that.. I'm in the same boat lol
Yep, xD... Ordered my stuff this past week haha
Ordered my first today! Was charging your batteries fairly easy with it?
@@dave271614 yeah its super easy!
You get used to it, it never stops
Your website is amazing thank you so much. Its answering all my dumb questions that every youtuber skips over. When starting out from zero your site is by far the best source i have found.
Saying "first charger" is so true :) Having a small collection of chargers is very handy so you can charge flight packs, goggle batteries, and more, all at once.
Looks like it might make a fine second charger. 🤔
Jeez, I was about to have a fit about ISDT putting ac at the end of the model number because I thought the first one JB showed was the 608ac, lol. I think I might add one of these to my charger collection. 😁👍
I literally just bought this charger when getting my first big boy quad. It was delivered today! Can't open till Christmas. I actually picked the charger for the reasons stated due to the flexibility and the fact that I did not have anything else in my collection yet and didn't want to deal with an external power source. I liked that I can use it for field charging as well. It does sound like a great "first" charger.
Complains about the weight of the all in one charger, proceeds to pack multiple 20,000mah 6s batteries. 🤣
I learned something today. I'm afraid to go to sleep now. Cause I'll forget something
why I bought this a while ago: because it came with a wall plug. I don't understand why other devices in the RC world don't come with one, and I'm really happy with this one, currently considering getting two or three more to charge more packs at the same time
Thanks Bardwell. Great vid. My son and I ordered our Tyro119 a few days ago and I’ve been trying to make a decision on a charger. This really helped.
I want a piece of apparel that says your catchphrase. you can hear the excitement in your voice when you say, “you’re gonna learn something today.” Best CZcams intro imo
I literally sat down to watch this as I unboxed my ISDT Q6Pro, I'm glad to see the updated website still has it the right fit for me!
be careful sometimes those magically lost calibration and can ruin your batteries..................... or burn your house.. HAHA
Thanks for your channel! I'm so tempted to start FPV - I used to fly R/C models, and once came 3rd in Quickie 500 nationals pylon racing.
Love how you put in all the math - Started taking Electronics 1 for "fun" a long with my regular classes just to understand all my hobby stuff - first thing taught was Ohm's Law and Kirchhoffs Voltage Law... Keep it up, might have to use this video as an example in class!
JB knows what he’s talking about with these chargers. I bought an ISDT QX6 plus on his recommendation a couple years ago and haven’t needed to buy another charger. 👍 Definitely worth the money I think I might need to pick up a new one now thanks for the advice
12:03 first card i have seen you use I figured you wanted to keep viewers in your description lol nice explanation!
Needed a charger knew where to go. Thank you sir!
I haven't flown in over a year and a half because other hobbies has been taking up my time but I still watched the entire video 😅
Thanks just starting out in RC hobby and this video helped me out greatly.
When I was starting, I used a laptop power brick and I still do from time to time. It's compact for travel, no exposed wiring, and it's 20V/5A. It works great and helped me save some money.
100 watt charger for a laptop , wtf is that, a gaming laptop? Mine is 10watt TDP lol.
@@boratsagdiyev1586 It's an old one, of course! Not exactly a gaming laptop, but it did have switchable graphics...
Same! I use a 20V 65W laptop adapter both for my ISDT Q6 and my TS100! It's very compact and easy to carry for travel
@@davidfaustino4476 do you guys have 6 pound bricks called a laptop or what lmao
@@boratsagdiyev1586 Mine is 4lb 15 inch with a 135W charger.
Gotta play this again and take notes. This is a lot of the info I have been looking for. Awesome content. Thanks!
I know right, I feel like there will be a test later and I need to study
I work at hobby store and I've tested probably around 40 chargers. And tbh my absolute best is skyrc d250. Its pretty cheap has 125W per port 2 ports lihv program(suprisingly many chargers still lack it_ and its damn accurate. It also has build in power supply and IT TALKS!!!! And i highly prefer that over this anoying high pitch noise most of the chargers make(you can switch to that if you prefer) it might be like nothing but makes you smile each time you turn it on as well as such a small thing as build in power switch so you can keep it plugged into your wall outlet. Another thing is aluminum case and high quality feel, probably the only con i have for this charger is its very low discharge rate. You should rl review this charger.
@@sdffsdafdsfsdfsd What a good idea, sleeping while your lipo is in charge :D
@@MessFPV probably lives in a cardboard box,,- house burnt down.
Ev0ltion what do you think of the skyrc d100 v2? The d250 at $250 plus tax is to expensive for some
Thank you Sir Joshua Bardwell for the review! it really helps me a lot
Looks like a great charger. I like the removable power supply. I use the T240 duo. It's actually a badass charger for 75 bucks.
i appreciate you bro, ill buy from your list.
608AC looks like a winner for someone just getting started. Kinda of like Q6 lite with a power supply included!
Thanks JB 👍👊
Got this as my first charger, very nice for sure! I'm looking for recommendations on another charger
Another well done video. Only one piece of information that I need to know you omitted from it. What is the calculator app you are using? :D
excellent review, I'm well impressed with this chargers extra over options. My skyRC d100 is crap at balancing out the batteries nicely, I like these extra functions in this unit, and the ability to tune the end voltage etc. Is the Hota D6 pro a rebadge or clone of this product ?? sure looks like it ??
The extra 200 grams? 😂 Come on, we all need a little workout since we are mostly stationary when flying. I would offer to carry other peoples bags if I had friends who would fly with me 😞
Yeah this guy makes no sense...
That's such a great design!
I'm a beginner...and i bought a ToolkitRC M6 just 2 weeks ago..yeah since i dont have any field batteries and have a 150watts smps...i bought it. And it works well for me..
Alright so I've been building a ton of interest in the hobby for a better part of a year now and I finally took the plunge. Ordered a radio, bnf whoop, batteries, etc. I also picked up the 608AC based on this review along with many others as it is my FIRST LiPo charger. My question: can I charge my 1s lipos with it and if so, what's the best method? Just want to get the most out of the charger with the whoop batteries as it will be the main use until I graduate to bigger quads in the future. Thanks for the always stellar content JB.
I bought the isdt q8, luckily the power supply of my creality ender 3 is just perfect to power it and uses xt60
Dang. Watched this a day to late, ordered the q6 pro yesterday hoping I can sort it out with an old laptop power supply
I wish I had known about this charger before I got my hands on my imax b6
If anyone ever has problems with the math, refer them to Ohm's Law. Good info JB!
Hi! Love your videos! I bought those SPIM08HP lithium ion polymer 200A packs. I have 150 of them. They need to be cycled first. What charger cycles lithium batteries all by itself. My turnigy cycles NiCad or NiMh up to 5 times. Can I use this setting?
ISDT 608AC The wattage and ampere matches very nice when supplied from DC and charging 6s.
The D6 Duo will also share wattage between ports. If you are using under 50W on one port, the other port can use up to 150W
My first was /is the T8 and I use a 24v 15a supply, I'm thinking about moving up to a 36v 20a supply, or possible 48v 15a, I don't recall what the voltage limit is, I will likely use a DC boost converter, to charge my 7s liion bank with it, I mostly use it on single cells now, it's a nice charger the controls can be annoying!!
Very informative video. Watt / Volts = AMP or Volts (battery voltage) x AMPs will give you watts.
Just found your channel and love all the great info. I'm not a FPV person, would these be appropriate for larger RC truck packs? Say a 3s 6000mah?
Thank you for the great content!
With a 3s 6000mah - youre looking at 5-6amps max charge rate simply because the size of that 3s is massive. I'd suggest getting smaller 3s mAh batteries if you get the 608ac. If you need 6000mAh batteries, get a 100+ Watt charger
I am brand new to the hobby, still waiting on parts for my first 5 inch build. I just bought and received a SKYRC E680 CHARGER 10A 80W AC charger. I plan to use this to charge 3 tattu funfly 1550mah batteries. This video was incredibly helpful and the timing could not be any more perfect for me. Question....Did I make a mistake with the charger choice?
Did you ?
I bought this thing a few weeks ago and it was shipped to me half broken. It charges how it should, but when I tried to discharge or charge my batteries to storage it always says abnormal battery connection and stops the task. I got a second device which was delivered today and it had the same issue. Now I returned it and look for something hopefully better maybe a dual charger. Fingers crossed🤞
Hey JB! Love the guide here. I noticed there is also HOTA D6 Duo and Duo + out now (not hobbymate), but they look identical and seem to have the same functions. Have you heard anything good about the HOTA chargers?
They're identical, just sold under different names.
Hello Joshua, as always, thanks for your help. I got this charger but unfortunately I smashed the OLED and I cannot find a spare part. Do you know where I can get one? Or do you have contacts with the manufacturer... Appreciated.
@joshuabardwell thanks Joshua for all youve done for the FPV community. I purchased this charger based on yours and Oacar Liangs review of this charger. It charges just fine but when trying to do a discharge or storage task it comes up with "Abnormal Battery Connection" for both of my CNHL Ministar 6S 1300mAh 120C batteries. Any thoughts on this. It's been doing my head in and Im at the point of giving up with it.
Hi i have that isdt charger what size battery would you recommend as a good field charging battery if you have a video all ready post a link if like to hear you answer. I am mainly charger 4s 1300 mah and have a few 6s 1300 mah batteries also and also putting this question your v2 parallel board for 6s batteries is the balance plug compatible with the other size batteries. Like the balance port on the isdt. Thank you your videos are very informative 👍
I use a reedy 1216 c2. I raced 1:10 scale rc, so needing to heat packs right before the race and 12 amps was good enough for me.
I need a small compact charger to take with me on a trip
I will be taking phone chargers with me anyway so can that charger be powered and charge my batteries with an in wall phone charger?
The hobby mate. I had so .any issue with isdt not charging. Never a issue with the duo. I love this charger.
I use the absima CTC1Touch to parallel Charge my lipos for more than 3 jears now (But i must replaced my Fan)
It is all in one charger 100w 10A charger and 5A 50w discharger whith external temperature Sensor
(But it can Charge a little more than its 100W )
It also can be Powered from 12v input.
Joshua! Quick question regarding this charger.
I just charged 3 different 1300mah batteries that I bought for a protek35 using the 608ac. I set it to 1.3 amps (1c?) and 4.2v for the condition, 4s lipo detected automatically. However, the charger beeps a few times after only about 25-30 minutes with a charge of only ~650mah.
Am I doing something wrong? I'm very paranoid about fires... lost everything as a kid in a house fire!
I got ToolkitRC M8S and don't regret.
So, here's my problem with that charger as a travel charger when you go on that airplane, because this one is oh so lighter. I don't know about you guys, but when I traveling with my quads assuming I took a plane somewhere, I don't have nearly the amount of time to charge batteries as I do at home, and that's when I really need to charge packs as fast as I can. If you're parallel charging, the D6 Duo Pro is the best travel charger hands down. You can't get a more compact combo of a charger and a PSU that can crank 200W.
I personally agree. 200W is enough to crank a parallel board of 10 packs at reasonable speed.
Hota h6 pro is the answer!!
When you take off power supply of the charger, what connection does it have XT60 ? To power it on to car battery? This charger to ISDT Q60 what is better?
im building batteries for powertools, so i will be at home all the time when do it.
i need my battery cells to be balanced before i start put them together, what is good recommendation? just as cheap as possible.
i dont need it to be fast charged, coz once batteries are assembled, the dedicated charger for the tool will do the job. all i need is balance them.
Nice buddy good stuff
Assuming 50W, which is what my 608AC says is the AC output, would I be able to balance charge 4x 3S 550mAh packs, and what would that calculation look like?
I need to charge mostly 2S 180 mAh lipos, what is the best charger for this situation? It seems like they are really tiny for the chargers described here. I will also need to charge around 4 at a time. I just want to invest wisely in a charger.
Could you charge your Lipos in your car by using this with a "cigarette lighting to xt60 adapter cable"?
Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're charging multiple batteries this means you will have less current output. I = P/V so as you add more batteries, the voltage rises which decreases current. This seems backwards to me because I would think the charger would have to output more current to account for the multiple batteries it needs to feed. Could you clear this confusion for me? Thanks.
halo jb, could u give a recommended charger in 2022? thank you!
Hi Joshua! I’m Edoardo from Italy and I just ordered a taranis qx7, I realized they don’t sell it with batteries so I want to buy a battery with 7.4v lipo 2200 mAh. (It’s sold on AliExpress and banggood).
The problem is that I can’t figure out how to charge the battery. Is it possible to charge it whit the isdt 608AC (that I’m about to buy, maybe with an adapter) or I need to buy even another charger for that.
Thanks in advance for the answer and for all the videos available in your Chanel.
Just grabbed this bad boy and it’s a great step up from my e4 evpeak. My question is, what amp rate should I set during the discharge/storage function? The charging watts/amps math was helpful as I’m using mainly 4s batteries from 850-1500mAh so I charge at .85-1.5A correct? I’ve been discharging at that rate as well to be safe until I learn the boundaries but they take HOURS to discharge.
Technically speaking, you could discharge batteries at quite an aggressive rate - just think about how fast they discharge when in use on your quad? That being said, I personally still don't go above 1C (0.85A - 1.5A in your case), as I don't like to unnecessarily beat on my packs when I don't need to be doing so. I currently own two ISDT D2 chargers and I just grabbed the 608AC, which together allow me to charge or discharge five packs at a time, and that is without using a parallel charging board. It's pricey to own more than one charger, but worth it in the long run.
Input Voltage: AC 110V~220V. Australia AC power is 230V, will this still work?
Gonna go with this I think to parallel charge my 2s 450mah micro qaud batteries, never parallel charged before but a friend is gonna help me to make sure everything is setup right and don't explode or catch anything on fire lol
Who has the best DC power supply to purchase for this? Just got the charger and I love it but I'm thinking I want the full 200 watt power when at the house.
Hi can you help I have a Geprc Mk 4 7 inch with 1800KV motors, I want get the longest flight time what battery would recommend.
Can it charge by balance port only ? I also have 2 cell car batteries that use different main connector (not xt60) and don't want to rig adapters. I understand that charging by balance port will be slower but I don't really care about speed. If not, what chargers can charge by balance port only ? Thanks.
Might upgrade to this from the cheap/older design (likely both) "HTRC B6 V2" that may or may not be the reason or contributing factor why every flight LiPo I have is puffed.
That and/or poor battery management in flight and over-discharging. I was using older advice to not go below 13.8v on a 4S pack, not the newer advice to not go below 3.5v/cell.
It couldn't have been more than $35, the indicated voltage jumps around a little suggesting component selection issues, and the LCD is a monochrome character display.
For capabilities, it can do up to 80w, up to 6A, up to 6S, and is only nameplated for up to 18v input, so I can't power it off a 5s or 6s (or a laptop brick!) safely. Fortunately I have 12v bricks laying around to power it with, and it plays nice with my power stations. Balancing current is TERRIBLE and balancing a pack takes *forever.*
Accessory features include cell voltage, cell IR, ability to charge older chemistries (lead, nickel) as well as Li-Ion, LiPo, and LiFePo4, discharge mode (VERY low wattage though, a 4S can only discharge at 600mA and makes the unit very toasty!) and a voltage/current regulated power supply mode, although this mode is a little fickle due to the battery disconnect safety still being armed. I wouldn't power a sensitive or low power device with it.
Joshua, how do you hook it up to a 12 volt vehicle battery? Thanks.
the only problem with ISDT is their LCD, vignetting after 2 years of use (mine gets worse after 3 years). I don't know if they fix them in the latest batch. But mine and a couple of friends of mine get the same problem.
Can you maybe answer why a great feature is missing from lipo chargers..
Don't know how this is called..
A friend of me has a DJI Mavic.. he puts all 4 battery's on this dji charger and the charger charges every battery one by one.. ends the first.. goes to second.. until all 4 are charged.. Why we can not have this feature on our lipo chargers with those parallel boards.. is this so difficult companys to manufacture?
What would be your choice for your first lipo charger three years later?
Mine just arrived!
But how do you use it??
The enclosed instructions are useless
With the 608 can you discharge batteries?
Hey, I'm a beginner to FPV and looking for a charger for Cinelog 30 Analog that's XT30, is this charger compatible with it?
I’m new to the hobby so this might be a stupid question, but I ordered this charger but the batteries I will be charging have an xt30 connector. Do I need something as simple as an adapter or something else?
Do I need a balance board to charge my 2s battery?
How is the ISDT D2 Mark 2 in comparison?
What’s the balance current on the 608AC
How fast would the IDST 608AC charge a 4S 5000Mah Lipo, vs. the Hobbymate D6?
I have two 1300 mah 2s other than that I have 5 tinyhawk and 2 inductrix batteries is there any charger that can easily do all 3?
please help me out! how do i charge a XT30 battery with this charger??
Hey Joshua, which calculator App do you use ?
@Joshua Bardwell - Thinking to go with either ISDT 608AC which already comes with both options, AC as well as DC, and it's basically the same price of the other option... the other option being ToolkitRC M7 + ADP-100 power supply. What would you prefer, ISDT or ToolkitRC in this case? I am trying to decide which one to go with as my first 6s battery charger. I do have SkyRC S65 and love that thing, but unfortunately it goes up to 4s only. Thank you so much for your kind advice in advance!
I'd take the ISDT as toolkitrc sometimes has issues with build quality.
@@JoshuaBardwell - Thank you so much for your kind reply, greatly appreciated! I guess if I go with ISDT D1, which is just a little more expensive than that ToolkitRC combo I've mentioned above, is it safe to say D1 is definitely better option then (I mean even better than ISDT 608AC)?
hii..mennn youre goood [ i tought i was the best..lol] Thank you so much for your revieuws, i learn a lot, as a beginner in this nice hobby! Question; do you know what type of *Fuse is in the isdt d2 dual charger? i have that charger, but the 2th part dont charge anymore..the fuse need to be changed..is it a 10A..12A..or what, please tell me, anyone ?.. thank in advance..have a nice day & flights X
How would you decide between this and the Q8 in 2020? Thanks
Thanks for the review..but already pulled the trigger on the Hobbymate D6 DUO (has AC & DC). Just waiting on it to ship from China.. 😣😣😣
It's a great charger!
The toolkit m8s is so awesome cheap but I love my hobbymate h6
I didn't Learn anything 😕 Okay so... I have ISDT SMART CHARGET I also Have 3s battery when I charge it its On 2.5 current an its taking 4EVER to charge WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?
Is it god for parallel charging of 6 300mah 3s and 2s packs?
IMHO one charger spec that is often over looked is the Balance Current. I purchased 4 of the ToolkitRC M8 to replace some aging IChargers based on the positive reviews. Turns out the Balance Current for the M8 is only 400mah. When charging large packs like a 5000mah 6S pack the charge time is often twice what it should be due to the charger not being able to balance it quickly enough. On the small 1500Mah 4S packs it is a much smaller problem. For this reason I don't recommend the M8 to friends that use the larger packs and looking to replace mine.
You should talk about “power supplies” because you mention those a lot but we have no idea of how do they even look like
is the battery hookup thing xt30 or xt60?
Got any Lopo charger recommendations for under $30
PLEASE HELP! I just received the ISDT 608AC charger in the mail and attempting to charge my 1500mah 4s batteries. When I plug in the balance lead, I'm getting voltage reading on 6 cells, with the 3rd and 4th being much lower. (3.5v, 4.6v, 1.3v, 1.3v, 5.2v, 5.4v). After plugging in the main lead, only the first two cells give voltage reading (now 4.9V and 5.5V). For reference, I checked this battery on a capacity checker and it's reading just about 3.8 V per cell, says 58% charged. I am hesitant to try and start the charging process, given the charger is identifying the 4s as 6s with only the balance lead in, and then only 2s with the balance and main lead. I am so confused and just want to get the batteries charged so I can start flying fpv :(
may I use it parallel?