Finally REVEALING Our New to us Machine | Workshop Machinery
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2021
- We have been hiding this new to us machine in our workshop for almost 6 months! It has been very difficult keeping it out of view but we have now expanded our workshop space and put the machine in it's place so we are finally revealing what it is! We are excited to show our viewers what it is, when we got it to the workshop, the unloading and what we will be using it for.
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Jamie of Mathews Transport Solutions for the safe transport and delivery of our machine.
FCN Operations and Stephen for assisting with the unload.
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Do you have CAM software to program it with? It’s not necessary if you’re doing just simple programming, but it will save you allot of time in the long run.
From my understanding, tooling is always the biggest cost.
Guys that's bloody Awesome I have a part you can practice making! I have the stp file and all. A transfer case adapter.
Old CNC are more difficult to learn how to program then new machines
Get an apprentice that's into your trade and wants to learn CNC as well. Bonus if they contribute with personality and laughs for us fans.
PS: if Karen needs a reminder not to film something, put some flashy visual marker on it 🎅
Having a CNC machine in the shop will definitely make the bloopers at the end of videos more entertaining 😁
With pixellation like that, it must be a Japanese machine...
🤣🤣🤣🤘
I wonder how he's planning on 'servicing' that machine. Is this going to be like Chobits, or is it more of a Franxx situation?
Nice!
when I was 21 and honorably discharged from the US military, I went to work with my dad. My dad showed me the ropes on machining and tooling, I am now disabled with MS at 52. Dad has since passed, but I loved my dad, I loved machine Work, and I LOVE this channel. Thank you for all you do!
My own experience being all manual, I can appreciate your goals and manner of gaining the knowledge / ability.
Please allow us to share in your path.
50 year old metal processing machines? One of them is definitively a "Metal Shaper". We used to call it a "Chipper". Rocks back and forth, chips off metal :)
A shaper would be awesome! Wonderful machines!
I'd be more inclined to think a horizontal mill or horizontal boring machine or both since there's 2
@@maggs131 yeah I thought this one might be a horizontal boring machine, I'm guessing one would be kept pretty busy in this workshop👍
A shaper doesn’t “rock” back-and-forth. It slides back-and-forth. There is an old saying, you can make anything on a shaper except money. Having said that they’re as cool as.
I second that probably a shaper and maybe a vertical lathe or turret lathe
The next machine will probably be a giant coffee grinder. That’s an essential piece of equipment to keep productivity of the shop at peak level.
I always found that a beer fridge worked better
I'm glad to see that it has the most important feature: a big E-stop button.
Love what you've done with the office space. Clean, professional, crisp. Plus, Homey is getting more play space, what's not to love.
Also, really cool machine you've picked up. Hope you get to use it and enjoy it for many years to come!
CNC machines are excellent at rapidly producing outtake video footage.
Hahaha, I look forward to that!
That’s why cnc machines have feed rate override and single block switches.
Tool changer crashes are always entertaining.
Hahaha...!
Nobody watching was thinking you were crazy for “firing up” that machine as soon as you got it in the shop...
I think we were all saying “hurry up” with getting it forked into the shop and turn it on..., man, let’s go..., let’s go..., Hahaha...!
Love it...
Great video,
Thank you both.
As about with his own toys I completely understand the rush to plug it in.
Wow, bringing back old memories from when I was a machinist running a similar CNC. Very handy
Great! I'm very happy to see you new toy, and waiting anxiously to see you using it. Congrats, Kurtis & all the family at CEE!.
Congrats with the CNC mill. My best advice number one is: Always use single block mode when testing a program. Turn down feed rate to zero and look at the coordinat numbers on the screen before you push run or start.
This way you go step by step and avoid crashes. It only takes a few wrong digits and the wrong code before a huge crash.
Programming is a bit like you would think.. point a to point b to point c etc.
Good luck, now you can ditch the crayon and ruler..
Yep, one hand always on the potentiometer for the feed. One time I forgot it, poti was to 100% and the tool stopped 2 mm before the part I was going to mill. Heartbeat went straight over 300 :D
Awesome mate thanks for the great tip for sure that's going to save some broken tools 🤣👍
What application would Kurtis use to design parts?
@@TrevorDennis100 A CAM program.
@@johncolvin2561 - congratulations, you've made the dumbest comment ever written on this channel.
I absolutely love that Homeless has his own toy room at the shop.
Congratulations on your new acquisition. And thanks again for sharing your journey with us. I'm excited to see you integrate this into your business.
Great addition to your shop. Very happy to see you guys growing. Very best to both / All three of you.
Hi Kurtis and Karen,
Congrats on acquiring the CNC mill. Love your giggles, Karen and always have Homey in the videos. Both of you stay safe.
After much thought and scientific analysis and scrutinizing over the results I came to the conclusion that all the variables considered alongside the compiled data in conjunction with known factors I'm strongly led to believe the other two machines could be literally anything from a dremel to a 900 ton punch press.
🤣👍 you might be close or far off with that analysis
Very impressive.
horizontal borer and horizontal mill
Spoken like a Professor of Logic from the University of Science
@@bd12660 Or a politician.
Congrats on the new to you machines. I look forward to seeing more of them in the coming months. With your smarts, you'll be up to speed with the CNC in no time.
This CNC shapersMachine was amazing. Thank you for sharing this vedio. God bless
The purchase of the machine will turn out to be the least expensive part of the journey. The CAD/CAM side is a whole other expense and learning curve , including the required post processor to convert the NC files that your specific control will require. It's definitely a walk before you run learning process, but since you already have lots of manual machining experience, I don't think it will take you too long. Hard to rationalise spending 45 minutes programming and setup to bore one or two holes, especially when you could have done it on your manual mill. If you force yourself to use the CNC whenever you can, you will quickly realise the value of your CNC mill.
Love the video's, and all the best to you!
As it is 2000+ machine it should be g-code capable so modeling shouldn't be a problem with any cad/cam software with g-code output.
@@goodiezgrigis Not so fast, the CAM software generates a toolpath, and the post processor generates the control specific G code. You have to be very careful with just punching out the code to the machine control. I'd go back to the previous mill owner and ask them for their post processor (specific to the CAM software they use)
Yes, most likely Fanuc, but all controls especially non-mainstream PC based machine controls can have very specific block structures, if you are lucky the control will stop at the faulty block, if you are unlucky you may end up with the spindle buried in your vise.
I ended up testing each cycle separately, and modifying the post processor before I could get our machining center up and running. Our control (FAGOR 8055M) was not mainstream enough, so that even the SolidCam post processor we got with the software was useless. Cheers
@@goodiezgrigis said flippantly as if commented by someone with zero real-world experience
Kyle can get a freeware cnc software online. Not the state of the art, but free. Bamcam is one that should work.
Aww…. He will learn as he goes …. In the meanwhile, he will be cranking out metal bananas…. They will be online in the store.
Wow! Well, I hope Homey doesn't have too much trouble learning to program that thing. There are going to be a lot of custom dog bones around the shop. Thanks for finally letting us take a look. I predict that the next machine is going to be a clothes dryer for all of those orange shirts. Cheers!
Hey mate! You won't believe it we just bought ourselves a new dryer on the weekend 😂😂😂 I get a toy and Karen gets a toy LOL ouch she just hit me 🤣 have a great week mate!
Plastics + mills + dog toys = Material durability testing.
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Reminded me of my Mom and Dad, they took turns buying big money items (at least, for our family). Mom was next in line for a sewing machine and Dad comes home with a nice Spanish made double barreled shotgun! Needless to say, a sewing machine was purchased quite soon thereafter! The shotgun became known as "Dad's sewing machine".
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering 🤣
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering just a bit of advice.. been married over 20 years .. never buy cooking or household cleaning stuff for the birthday gift or holiday gift ..they will get mad ...I will get her pots and pans but not as a gift .. you get a toy she gets clothes or a pair of shoes .. good luck ..
Congrats CEE! I envy you your journey with this new tool, Lots to learn. Thanks for the look
You guys make moving huge hardware look easy! Good machine to start on for sure. LOVE the outtakes.
Nice! No ''run of the mill'' jokes here. A handy asset. Thanx for bringing us along for the ride. Cheers
It would be fun to see the journey of you learning the machine :)
Canyou just imagine the language problem that would cause CZcams!
I actually got excited for all the future outtakes when he said it's a CNC machine 🤣
Congratulations, always a good time when there’s a new tool to play with!
Hello, I am very glad that you are progressing. Congratulations for the CNC continues like this.
There will always be someone who values a job well done.
A good opportunity for Karen to learn CNC programming. After all, Karen makes all theses videos so skilfully - I’m sure CNC work would be a breeze for her! 👍🙂
Nice one, guys! Good to see you all, especially in these happy circumstances! Also good to see you one extra day of the week, not just on Fridays! 😃😄
I Can't Wait...& Hope We can All Learn Along with U...
Congrats to Homey on his new office and toy spaces!
(Oh yeah, and congrats on the new CNC too.) 😀
Congrats on the machine. Learning how to program is not too hard (depends a little bit on the manufacturer). Learning how to do certain tasks and how to select the right tools for this is more important I think. I'm not a native english speaker so it is a little bit difficult for me to explain. But from what I saw on your videos, I'm pretty sure you will get the hang on it. Good luck and best regards, also to Karen and Homey. Greeting from germany.
Wonderful, glad to see you expanding. Once you get the hang of it you will probably love it. Best of luck from North Carolina USA👍
Congratulations! Looking forward to seeing it some videos.
Way cool! Can’t wait to see how you decide to utilize it! Will be an exciting experience for you!
I've had a 1989 Fadal 4020 for a couple years now. Still have a lot to learn, but its amazing the stuff you can make pretty quickly/easily with one that would be extremely time intensive with manual equipment.
Christmas at CEE. Not only did you get a new toy to increase your revenue, we get to watch new videos of you putting it to work. Luckily Homeless is there to keep his eyes on you during the learning process.
Parabéns meu professor, sei que este é um pequeno passo para uma grande experiência que lhe trará, e conhecimento é tudo. Te desejo muita felicidade!!!
I look forward to following your progress with CNC machining. It is fascinating. Thank you, Kurtis.
Congratulations on your purchase. Much of the time your works. I follow everyone. Hugs here from Brazil.
Congrats with your new machine. Hope it'll generate lots of new projects for you. Greeting from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Very exciting changes at CEE! So good to see positive movement ANYWHERE!
I can only imagine the work your wife does to edit each of your videos. She deserves 90% of the credit.
99%
Love the video you guys do keep up the great work Chris from Canada 🇨🇦
Cheers Chris 😎👍
getting up to speed with the modern technology I see. Its really necessary to stay competitive but I have to say I like the old school type work that you do. Good luck learning CNC.
Another big part of having cnc capibility i havent seen mentioned yet is being really organised with the files and catalogging from the outset, especially if you start doing drawing and toolpath revisions that are very very similar. At the start its not so bad but you chew up heaps of time once you have hundreds of different files if they are all over the place, you will definitely use 16 tools before long haha
Congratulations on another great machine. You will enjoy the learning curve.
Congratulations on this amazing machine and we wish you prosperity and success to continue the great work you are doing
Thanks very much
Well done on the expansion guy's.
Great job on contacting previous owner, very astute.
Nice addition to the shop, yes, CNC tooling gobbles up the budget.
Thanks for sharing both.
CONGRATULATIONS........... I'am so happy to see this CNC on your Workshop......
Well, that answers my question from a couple of videos back. I had the feeling you were going to get into it eventually.
Reminds me of learning CAD. It doesn’t take long to make lines and shapes but if you don’t take time to learn how CAD builds a drawing and the options for manipulating the drawing you will find yourself boxed into a corner with the very real possibility of needing to abandon the drawing and starting over.
Hi Kurtis very nice acquisition that this CNC milling machine, I can't wait to see your machining on it, thank you to your wife and to the service officer. 😎💪🇦🇺
Awesome! You deserve every good thing.
Gotta make them gains son! Happy for you fellas, this opens up a lot of different opportunities!
Hot on the heels of TNT Titan, now a CNC machine. I'm guessing a shaper for one of the other machines. Could this be the time to save time to get a retired CNC operator to run you through programming to get the basics and to show how it works? Anyway, congrats to the new arrival(s) and an early video from you guys is always welcome.
Call the place he bought it from and find "the guy" to come teach.
Curtis glad your business is so successful that you are able to expand your wonderful shop,
What a great find those things are incredible machines. I'm sure you'll do lots with it.
How Epic, Congratulations on the new CNC! I hope the learning curve is easy and projects many! God bless!
Thank you mate
The next one is definetely going to be a shaper! I bet. Good luck with the new cnc
Congratulations for your new machine
Thanks, enjoyed the introduction! Good luck with it, hope it's a prosperous venture!
As a lifetime computer programmer, a prediction: If you dedicate just a little time to learning the machine, you will find that there are many routine procedures that you do over and over, where only a couple of dimensions or steps change from job to job, and this machine can repeat all the others perfectly for you every time. Just plug in the few changes, set up the piece, and walk away. The learning curve is steep, but only at first. Then it will be a walk in the park. You're going to wish you had taken this step years ago! Looking forward to seeing what you can do with it!
Endorsed - by an old git, UK
Congrats! What's with the posh Yale forklift? :)
I’ve been asking the same. They don’t have the old cat anymore
We borrowed it from our neighbour workshop for the unload and then bought it off them a month later 🤣👍
Lars....
Awesome!!
Ivy Lift
@mrbunnylamakins with the “self loading counterweight “ it seemed to work well! 🤫
Very nice lets Hope you get it up and running 👍👍👍
The three of you are sneaky! I love it, congratulations!!!
Good going Kurtis. That's looks like a good machine to get your feet wet with cnc machining seeing as it's the 21st century and all. Once you get working on it you will probably wonder how you got by without it. Onward and upward. Thanks for the video.
Also, my guess for one of the other new machines is a surface grinder. And it will probably be one with a lot of real estate on the chuck.
Just the thing for getting rod ends ready while you work on the rest of the part.
Forklift Ballet in the morning.
What a start in the day! Thanks!
Two more new machines, i don't like guessing. What i do like is waiting for more old machinery footage👍👍👍
Exciting! Thanks for sharing.
Awesome 👍 I’m surprised Haas hasn’t given you guys a promo cnc to use
Or tormac...
We don't do promos 🤣 rather pay for it and be able to give our honest feedback to viewers 😎👍
Thank you for that.
Nice, Come on over to the dark side. Dark side is better because can close the doors and then all the hot metal bits and coolant stays in the machine instead of on your skin and the floor. CNC is a lot easier than most old manual guys make it out to be. You have to do all the same things but instead of turning hand wheel to a number you just type it in and the machine turns the dial for you. Oh 16 tools isn't very much, definitely not enough for job shop. I run a one man job shop with my 40 tool machine and that isn't enough, you'll start leaving go to tools in there and before you know it you'll find you have it full and be taking them in and out all the time. Looks like a decent size machine that's in reasonable shape and I think once you start to get the hang of programing and running the control you'll be hooked on the power of the dark side ;)
Awesome mate thanks for sharing your insight
Very nice additions. Good score. Thanks for sharing this.
Exciting times! Can't wait to see how you integrate it into your work, I bet it will be handy
That is very cool!
Everything is going CNC nowadays.
Even giant lathes and mills are going CNC.
If you ever decide to branch out and make some things for sale, learning CNC will be a big help to you.
Have fun learning it. I'm sure you'll do just fine! :)
Getting a CNC machine is just the first part, now you have to figure out how to make programs. You can either write them by hand (takes long and it's easy to make mistakes) or you have some awesome CAD/CAM software and let it generate the programs for you. The latter one often costs quite a bunch more though as you might have guessed :)
There are some free programs, they're not as user friendly though, which might add frustration when trying to take some first steps in the field.
AutoCAD - Simple & Basic. Works every time.
Congratulations on the "new to you" CNC machine.. I just turned green with envy. That was a great find. It's so fun to hear Karen laugh with and at you lol. Great video! Be well you three
would love to see the journey of fiddling with the machine, from cleaning, setting it up and making the first cut to the point it starts to save time and doing stuff not possible before !
sweet. i've seen a lot of vids w/ CNC work going on but i have no idea what programming them involves. i bought a 3D printer and wound up learning enough Fusion 360 to make what i wanted to make but the slicer program would generate the G code and the extruder path. it would be interesting to follow along as you learn.
That was whisper quiet looks impressive.I like the quick release mechanism .Looks like you are going to have fun playing on it .By the way how did you repair it after hitting the top micro switch?
Congratulations, hard work paying off
Another learning experience! Bravo! Good for you!
Nice to see people growing with their own business it goes to show that dedication and untiring work ethics really pays, Congratulations Maite 👍
YAY CNC Mill! :D I assume it's a CAT40 spindle, so all your manual-mill tools should bolt right in with the right pull-studs. As others have said, use single-block and turn the rapid traverse down all the way when you go to check a new program. I'd also say to hit up your mate that you did the sawmill roller work for, he could probably get you pointed in the right direction for a CAD/CAM package to use, along with where to find the particulars for the machine's implementation of g-code. Once you've started playing with it, it will start making sense - I taught myself how to edit programs on-the-job and on-the-mill and those machines were WAY older than this one.
Once you've got it up and going, you'll wonder how the hell you ever got on without it. :)
He said BT40
@@Ddabig40mac same thing, different nomenclature.
The very best of the luck with the new machine exciting times ahead 👍
Ideal machine to get started on, Decent for the time consuming fiddly bits such as where you'd usually be marking out, popping and drilling, tapping, C/S etc, it can all be done in one "operation".
People are already going on about cad/cam, but longhand would be the best option to get going, and to understand what you're actually asking the machine to do!
I'm guessing a vertical lathe, seems to be a good fit for the shop
Congrats on the new machine!
As an apprentice from Germany, learning the basics of CNC looked daunting at first, but with just a small amount of motivation the first steps are taken quite easily and quickly, the rest comes naturally.
A few things that were practically imprinted on us:
1. When running a program for the first time, turn the potentiometers to 0 so the machine can not move, start the next command line, look at the remaining distance to travel if it makes sense.
If so, turn to 100% feed and let it run that line.
Then back to zero to start the next line.
This allows avoidance of collision due to typos.
Using cycles to program, which run on their own to for example machine a pocket, that does not slow down too much.
2. Before entering the workpiece with a tool, program a rapid move in the spindle axis to a point a few millimetres before the workpiece surface and potential contact with the workpiece. Then move below the workpiece surface with feed speed.
Even when you are entiering an already machined pocket, use feed speed to go below the programed surface - in case the position is wrong, it will not crash the machine but just cut at the wrong position instead.
Step 1 is important here to catch a potential typo in the spindle axis move to avoid collision.
3. When done with a tool, before you change the tool, program a manual move in the spindle axis to retract the tool to a safe distance before moving to the tool changer. This will avoid collision between tool and for example a clamping device which may happen on a direct multi axis move to the tool change position.
At the end of a program, retract to safe height.
4. Don't stop at the bare basics when you learn, it may be tempting to just go with it, but there are many things to make life infinitely much easier.
CNC cycles, absolute and incremental moves and polar coordinates are extremely useful!
On a good CNC software, there is a cycle for almost everything you can think of (hole patterns, pockets, grooves, etc.).
I have every confidence in you that you'll manage just fine!
On the new machine, maybe a lathe that allows for turning of larger diameters?
I love all the “bloopers” at the end of your videos.
Thanks for sharing.. 👏🏼👍🏼
Congrats on your new adventure with a different machine!
Fusion 360 is a good cad/cam tool. might be worth watching the desktop router side of youtube. shapeoko, x carve etc.
Thanks for sharing
Oh I love new machines. Just not crazy about the learning curve that comes with being in my late 50's. Love the out takes because it shows you guys are having fun. Thnx again.
brilliant to hear your approach - really excellent to learn as one goes. looking forward to catching up on the cnc journey as you go.
I was right with the cnc, so I’ll try my luck with the other two:
A shaper and a huge 3d printer
Well given that he said that the other 2 machines were over 50 years old and 50 years ago 2d printers were in their infancy, I'm pretty sure it's not a huge 3d printer.
Anyway, they'd have zero use for a 3D printer, except to make dog toys.
Water jet
@@mikecabral1579 - Was there many water jet machines in 1970 ?? Remember, by nature they are usually CNC controlled, and that was a huge challenge back then.
How much did you end up paying for it? I'm curious. I work at a machine shoe and we just got 3 new machines and have been dealing with the same struggles of instalation and shuffling of things.
As for the other machines, im hoping for a shaper!
We've decided not to publicly share the purchase price in case we go to sell it one day 🤣
You are well ahead of the game. You know everything about machining parts manually. With the CNC machine is nothing but a step up in the process. Congratulations on your purchase....You will get the feel of things in no time...
I've been writing embedded computer software for 39 years. It's always non-stop learning. Good for you, Kurtis, working to keep up with the technology in your profession. I'll bet you find good uses for your new-to-you CNC machine over time. They won't be obvious up front, but will reveal themselves over time. Good luck.