What makes a commander cEDH viable?

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  • čas přidán 4. 08. 2024
  • Many magic the gathering players ask the question, what makes a commander good? is this commander good for cEDH or is it only a casual EDH commander? In this video I am trying to touch that question.
    In general it comes down to this: Can the commander draw cards? or is the commander a combo piece in the command zone? But also will that commander include a lot of bad cards in his deck?
    Music - Gunnar Olsen - Cold_rise
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Komentáře • 164

  • @yoitsgunattack
    @yoitsgunattack Před 6 lety +49

    your videos are always so interesting to me, as like a second part to this video could you do something like a "best commanders in all colour combinations and why"

    • @DomFoolery175
      @DomFoolery175 Před 5 lety

      I second this

    • @briggsjefferson9940
      @briggsjefferson9940 Před 3 lety

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    • @zakaibenson7091
      @zakaibenson7091 Před 3 lety

      @Briggs Jefferson yea, have been using flixzone} for since december myself :)

  • @Bcdeano
    @Bcdeano Před 6 lety +1

    As always, excellent content. Thanks dude!

  • @xBerrics
    @xBerrics Před 6 lety +1

    Great video again.. Please so much make a video about Rowan and Will Kenrith about their combos and the techniques..

  • @jheu781
    @jheu781 Před 6 lety +2

    Great work.

  • @lefurrling
    @lefurrling Před 6 lety +12

    I love the romantic couple at the ending. They seem to be one of the best options in this format, if not the best. They are so versatile, fast and resilient, that I really doubt we'll see a better commander soon.

    • @stormerbuzz352
      @stormerbuzz352 Před 6 lety +1

      Dan G The only thing missing was romantic music lol

  • @chrislloyd4388
    @chrislloyd4388 Před 6 lety +1

    I've really been enjoying your content. I'd love to see you build a competitive Yennett deck sometime.

  • @eatmoretidepods2499
    @eatmoretidepods2499 Před 6 lety

    I always enjoy seeing when you upload a new vid. Awesome content, keep it up!!! Can i get an opinion on a thantis the war weaver stax deck?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +1

      Shattergang brothers is better. I am afraid. That ability isn't affecting that many competitive decks. I don't even think its good vs semi competitive decks. Hell it might not even be that affective vs casual decks. That spider also cost 6 mana. If you wanna play JUND colors I and stax, I recommend the shattergang brothers! They are not that bad!

  • @mateusmelo9628
    @mateusmelo9628 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi, love your videos. You explain everything so well and I love your accent. Could you make a list of viable cEDH commanders? I never which ones are and there isn't a precise list, but I trust your jugdgement! Thank you.

    • @alexalcaraz9271
      @alexalcaraz9271 Před 5 lety

      tappedout.net/mtg-decks/list-multiplayer-edh-generals-by-tier/ this is a list of commanders made by the lab maniacs

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite Před 4 lety

    I love that you referenced Marath. A lot of people undersell that commander because they see a lateral design to Walking Ballista, but they forget that Prossh, Tazri, and now other new commanders are all based around infinite mana combos (most specifically Food Chain). Marath has access to creature and enchantment tutors if necessary, and there are dozens of loops to explore that can generate infinite mana in Naya colors. I tend to have an eye for these conditions you've pointed out- the combo piece or the card draw engine- and I think about it any time I put a new list together.

  • @salvadorgamma3266
    @salvadorgamma3266 Před 6 lety

    Great video. Very informative. Curious how you would tune a cEDH commander like Yennet who is a little slower, to compensate. Or even a tune a non cEDH deck like Saskia perhaps lol.

  • @jebrooks
    @jebrooks Před 5 lety +8

    Gisa and Geralf happens to be my favorite commander :(
    (Definitely not competitive though lol)

  • @cardfightknights3512
    @cardfightknights3512 Před 6 lety

    Loving this channel a lot! I'm really curious on how you sleeve looks like triple sleeves?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      It is triple sleeves. I like it. Shuffling feels better in my opinion.

  • @teolamquang1665
    @teolamquang1665 Před 6 lety

    Just wondering when will the video about aminatou Will be coming out?

  • @teolamquang1665
    @teolamquang1665 Před 6 lety

    Just wondering when will the video about aminatou be coming out?

  • @TheMusicMan1105
    @TheMusicMan1105 Před 6 lety +1

    Just found your channel, and I feel like I've been missing out!
    What do you think about competitive Sen Triplets? Is it viable?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +4

      I have played her! She has one interesting ability that say "that one player can't cast spells this turn". Honesty that steal thing isn't that great. You will steal brainstorms and use his spot removals to kill stuff. But the ability to shut down someone from casting spells during your turn is good.
      That means you can combo off more safe. And that is what I used sen triplets for. My deck was really good on its own but used the sen tripplets to make it easier to combo off. I liked how that worked out.
      And you can in some sort call her a card drawing commander. So she has both interaction and card draw potential.
      But I wanna emphasis that a deck built around her wouldn't be that good. You will never keep her for your next turn and untap with her. And she do cost 5 mana.

  • @CraigArgyleAudio
    @CraigArgyleAudio Před 6 lety

    Hi, I subbed to you earlier this month after I checked your Tasigur and Jhoira videos out. I've been having serious trouble with the low land counts getting keepable hands in a lot of these cEDH builds. I very often get 1 land and a couple of 2 mana spells, should I just be cutting some less relevant interaction in my meta for a few more lands? 27-30 feels far too low most of time.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      I that case you can add in more lands. Say 32-34. I usually play on 30 lands. Jhoira should be lower, 28 something. But there is nothing wrong with playing 34 lands or even 35. The reason you can go so low on lands is because you play so much mana dorks and mana rocks. If you look at wintage their decks run something of 15-16 lands in their 60 cards decks.

  • @noxouphe4370
    @noxouphe4370 Před 6 lety +1

    Can you please do a Hokori the dust drinker deck tech?

  • @paodequeijo7231
    @paodequeijo7231 Před 5 lety

    I've just stumbled upon your channel and I found it awesome! The content is just perfect. I've been playing Marath ever since I got into commander a few months ago and it's nice that he has potential. I've tuned my deck to play with my friends with a more casual apporach to the game, however the deck seems to be really week when playing against stronger commander builds. How would you build a Marath deck so that it could fight in more competitive tables?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      I would go for Natural order and find protean hulk. Then kill the hulk someway. I would also play stax cards like blood moon. Magus of the moon. The deck would need a lot of card draw. Marath doesn't draw any cards. So the deck needs to fix that. Marath has a good interactive ability. Therefore I might skip creature removal. Or well cut down in creature removal.
      In short, that is how I would build it.

    • @paodequeijo7231
      @paodequeijo7231 Před 5 lety

      @@cedhtv Really interesting, I was thinking about adding Birthing Pod and Kiki-jiki to my deck since I just came across this awesome combo. Natural Order seems great as well and maybe something like Greater Good for the card draw. Currently I use Ripjaw Raptor, Skullclamp and Huatli, Radiant Champion, and I've been feeling they are not enough. Huatli is really close to being cut and now i'm pondering which hatebears should be added to the deck. Marath is a blast do play, but I find it really difficult do build.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      It is, the commander is lacking so many things the deck need to make up fore. And it is hard in Naya colors to do so.

  • @nonlinear3084
    @nonlinear3084 Před 4 lety +4

    Would you please do a video on the new Dragon Noble JUND commander?
    I thinks it's the best JUND wizards has yet to print

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 4 lety

      That video is coming for sure. I really wanna do it. I don't know when tho.

  • @xmegami5511
    @xmegami5511 Před 6 lety +3

    Out of curiosity, what about a commander like the Locust God? I'm currently building it for my first edh deck and I want to know if I'm making a good choice with it. Thank you very much.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +3

      Locust god is okey. A bit expensive in mana and only two colors, that is the only weakness. The combo is strong. It is not a choice I would recommend. But he is a good choice. Not a bad choice at least. There is one good thing about choosing that commander. Most of the cards you wanna have in that deck you also wanna have in other decks. That means that if you wanna change to another commander, you will already have the cards.
      The cards locus god wanna have that every other (almost every other) commander wanna have is: The counterspells and mana rocks.

  • @supersam5802
    @supersam5802 Před 4 lety

    How do you feel like infinite mana in command zone, whether it be selvana or the new UB that can make basalt monolith go infinite?

  • @DuckestKibbles
    @DuckestKibbles Před 6 lety +2

    What would you say about Mizzix and Meren as competitive commanders? I'm VERY new to cEDH info so I'm kind of curious.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      They are okey. They not terrible. Mizzen can make storm builds and have a new card that will help his deck. Sentinel tower! I have a deck tech about meren. Here is my list if you are interested. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/cedh-meren-stax-and-combo/

  • @landonp629
    @landonp629 Před 5 lety +5

    Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain is probably one of the best card-draw engines - or at least up there.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +3

      Definatly up there!

  • @MetalSnakeBoogy
    @MetalSnakeBoogy Před 6 lety +5

    Tasigur or Tymnia with Thrasios. Best commanders with multiple versatility. Still able to get a turn 3 or 4 win without 0 cmc cards.

  • @drakelasky2643
    @drakelasky2643 Před 6 lety +2

    I agree Gitrog is an amazing card -Ekardyksal

  • @BuroTrusts
    @BuroTrusts Před 6 lety +3

    What is your opinion on teysa, Orzhov Scion?
    She's one of my favorite commanders and I'm really trying to make her as good as I can (I know tymna is superior but I just wanted to play teysa)

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      She goes inte the same range as Ovlivia voldaren that I used as a example in the video. A great control commander that can shut down creature decks. But have problems vs none creature decks. There is such decks, Teferi chain veil is a good example.
      That means she has a problem going all the way. But hey! I have won games with my control mana rock tribal olivia voldaren semi competitive deck. Nothing is impossible. If you love that commander so much your should choose between the following.
      1) Stay semi competitive and play vs similar decks at that power level. Nothing wrong with that. That commander kicks as at that power level.
      2) make the deck really strong vs what your commander is weak against. like teferi chain veil. If your deck can be good vs something like that and still use that commanders cool ability, then you might have something.

  • @mleet3125
    @mleet3125 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm a couple years late, but thanks for this video. I'm considering upgrading or just making a new deck that for possible cEDH play. Sadly, the deck I was thinking about upgrading, based on what's in this video, would require significant rework. Eligeth at 6 cmc, though a draw engine, is likely too expensive.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 3 lety

      6 mana cost commander. Muldrotha? Yeah that commander is really expensive sadly. But if you can get it out then wow!

    • @mleet3125
      @mleet3125 Před 3 lety

      @@cedhtv I did see your Muldrotha build, found it while looking for a yarok. I was considering building them, or like I said in my first comment, upgrading my tormod/eligeth list. This decision is about as hard as finding cards to cut!
      Merry Christmas, hope you have a blessed day!

  • @eatmoretidepods2499
    @eatmoretidepods2499 Před 6 lety

    Hey was just wondering if and when you might do us a Tuvasa CEDH deck tech

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      I think I will. But I don't know when.

  • @uphillwalrus5164
    @uphillwalrus5164 Před 4 lety

    I think zndrsplt and okaun partners are really well designed as high casual tier or low cedh tier commanders considering you can manipulate the coin flip effect reliably enough to both draw a lot of cards and combo off a few different ways

  • @YourPalRowan
    @YourPalRowan Před 4 lety +1

    I am curious about Lord Windgrace. He's a pretty expensive boy, but he draws cards in the command zone and ramps a fair amount.

  • @kylebrown7793
    @kylebrown7793 Před 4 lety +1

    So I have an og atheros I would like to know your opinion on him as a commander

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 4 lety

      I don't think hes that good. Sadly. Cool tho. I really like the card in generall. Did play it in modern.

  • @Ianoxen
    @Ianoxen Před 6 lety +1

    So what for you are the absolute Tier 1 commanders as of now? I'm guessing Thrasios-Tymna takes the top spot just for viability and versatility?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      You are almost right. I think T&T is the most popular commander choice. My personal opinion however. This is only my personal opinion.
      I think Najeela the blade blossom boss is stronger then T&T. I might be wrong. But I guess we are talking about small margins.

    • @ecos889
      @ecos889 Před 5 lety

      @@cedhtv Najeela has the added advantage that you do not have to go infinite with her to win every game I played with her. Often times I only needed to activate her ability twice to win the game. The most fun I personally have with her though if I play against pillow fort decks, but with that I take advantage of enchantment and artefact board wipes and the insane card draw advantage you can get with stuff like kindred discovery, thassa trident and the likes.

  • @JerichoCasio
    @JerichoCasio Před 6 lety +5

    Good video for competitive decks. But I do get tired of people saying cards are just bad. The point of a game is to make decisions and by picking only good staples you are reducing that choice greatly. If you have fun with a deck then it is a good deck. You should focus on a having fun, not just winning.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +3

      I like the struggle to win. But you have a good input. But even if there always are some out includes. There are always some deck ideas and difference in peoples play style. Even if they play the same deck they might tweet it a lot. For example my paradox sisay deck contains walkers. That is my tweek to it. Others contain other stuff. We are all trying to do the same but in a different way.
      So the pool of good cards is so big that you still get construction decisions.
      Maybe I should say what I mean with "bad card".
      1) A cards i bad when there is another card that is doing the exakt or close enghuf the same thing but better. Maybe it has a better CMC or some other extra option. Birds of paradise is better then elvish mystic. Except if you go elf tribal.
      2) a card is bad if it dosen't do anything in the meta. My best example for that is mystical remora in legacy. That card dosen't do anything en legacy. But in EDH its broken. While voice of resurgence is great in modern but dosen't do anything en EDH. Casual zombi cards usually dosen't do anything in EDH meta.
      But you do make a great point. If, your having a good time playing the deck you created then the deck has achieved its purpose.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      enough*

    • @JerichoCasio
      @JerichoCasio Před 6 lety

      I do love your video though. I did not mean to give off a negative impression. I love playing commander and always enjoy watching these types of videos. Keep up the good work!

    • @deinemam7115
      @deinemam7115 Před 5 lety +1

      they are bad in the context of cedh. which is what this channel is about. i consider casual edh and cedh as 2 different formats. so yes, these are bad.

  • @bluesmanshoes
    @bluesmanshoes Před 6 lety +3

    Alesha also has Splinter Twin/Kikki (2 cards) in addition to bomberman. I would argue it is only tier 2'ish because it lacks blue interaction. But then there is Prosh...

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      Yes, Prossh is a good example of a combo piece in the command zone. But the Jund dragon didn't wanna be infront of the camera this time. :P

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      And yes Alesha has like everything going for her and in theory she should rock! A low CMC, 3 color identity and a good ability. But when you put her deck together suddenly there is something missing and she is falls (like you said) down to tier 2, something. I hope that what she is missing will come.

    • @bluesmanshoes
      @bluesmanshoes Před 6 lety +1

      I was just thinking to myself, and in that questioning my own thesis, how does Prossh stay that competitive without countermagic?

    • @BigChimpEnergy
      @BigChimpEnergy Před 6 lety +4

      bluesmanshoes Prossh stays competitive because the only decks that really are faster than him are Breakfast Hulk and Sidisi Ad Nauseum. Prossh also plays a 6 wincon package due to Food Chain being a 1 card combo and the deck has about a dozen anti-counterspell / anti-blue cards.

  • @cameronhowerton6498
    @cameronhowerton6498 Před 6 lety

    What tier would you say a Jhoira, Weather light Captain Cheerios deck is?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +2

      Cheerios is in my opinion really bad. After playing against it a lot I am not afraid of it anymore. After one single counterspell to jhoira that deck fall of.
      But I do like Jhoira stax. I have played that deck my self and have seen good results with it.
      This is always (almost always) a universal formula. Whenever your deck is dependent on your commander, your deck and commander have a big weak spot. That your playing a bad deck (in most cases). And if you never get access to your commander because of interactions like MANA DRAIN.
      There is some commanders that by pass this rule for some strange reason. Gitrog monster seams to do fine. But I think that is because in the end Gitrog playes a lot of good cards. And that means that the frog has a better chans of catching up.

    • @imarecknyou
      @imarecknyou Před 5 lety +1

      Sorry bud, but you contradicted yourself there. if competitive EDH decks require your commander to win on top of a way to make infinite mana, then that is also a big weak spot in your deck. The bottom line is that any perceived threat will be countered and timing and answers to the counters affect any cEDH deck.
      As a fellow competitive EDH player, my first target to kill and or deter is the combo player and I will sway the rest of the table to do so. And if you are playing 1v1, then for sure your infinite mana win conditions will not make it to play ( at least not on my watch ).
      DISCLAIMER, I am a Jhoira W.C. main deck and I learned quickly to have multiple win conditions that don't need her out on the field ( if anything, the table leaving her on the battlefield just expedites my winning chances ).

  • @jonahk1593
    @jonahk1593 Před 5 lety +1

    I know I'm late, but what about Arcades, Strategist?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +1

      So he draws cards! He definitely draws a lot of cards. But he desired what I consider bad cards. Sure he puts into play 4/4 creatures that cost 2 mana. But that 4/4 doesn't interact with my opponents and can't attack if Arcades isn't in play. I have seen some storm build with him that looked cool. But it didn't really impress me that much.
      If there was a lot of defenders with stax abilities. Let's say an aven mindscensor with defender. Then he would work.

  • @nonlinear3084
    @nonlinear3084 Před 4 lety +2

    Could you do an edric decktech?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 4 lety +1

      I will add this to the wish list.

  • @apock2474
    @apock2474 Před 6 lety

    what do you think about Edgar Markov as a Commander? Is low tier competitive?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      Humm. Yeay I have to say that he is low. I know that People really like him. So I am sorry to say so.

    • @ericdias4199
      @ericdias4199 Před 5 lety

      In 1v1 he's brutal. The nightmare of control players 😂

  • @karuptedninja2000
    @karuptedninja2000 Před 5 lety

    I'm pretty new to to commander and was wondering if instead of being combo/ draw commander can a commander that is just great value?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +1

      Card drawing commanders are usally great value commanders. Or what sort of value do you want your commander to give you? What commander are you thinking of?

    • @karuptedninja2000
      @karuptedninja2000 Před 5 lety

      @@cedhtv I was looking at the new tolsimir since it gives green white good stuff a lot of value and the potential for aetherhub combos

  • @ImageGreatness
    @ImageGreatness Před 6 lety

    Hey so I have been testing Scarab God. Yes its powerful a casual commander. But what about competitive.
    I am developing an instant speed scrab god control running only answers and card draw with like 4-7 strong creatures with flash.
    So all it does is interact with my oponents and win by turn 7 if I dont draw any mana ramp.
    I have won a lot in multiplayer but I have destroyed in 1v1. Havent gone to a cedh tournament tho

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      The scarab god has everything going for it. A kinda card draw mekanik, a grave interaction. And a group slug WINCON.
      But then there is two problems:
      1) only two 2 color identitys. But blue black is okey! Definatly 2 good colors.
      2) There isen't any good zombi hatebears or control cards. Or there is some, but they are weaker then most other good hatebears and controll creatures. Scarab god is a great example of a commander that have all the potential, but nothing that is good and have synergy with it.
      But you can build the deck just like you said. Don't go zombi tribal or any zombi synergy in general. Just make your opponents creatures into zombis.
      How do you win btw? Only scarab god loss life thing?
      Maybe this could intreast you btw. I am not trying to make you watch more of my stuff, I just think this might be intreasting. Its a tapped out list of cards that offer interaction but if left uncheacked can become a WINCON. Blood pod playes some of these creatures and have that mindset.
      tappedout.net/mtg-decks/interaktiv-wincon/

    • @ImageGreatness
      @ImageGreatness Před 6 lety

      @@cedhtv Ill watch your content. Im a spanish youtuber myself ;) I love to make ans watch content.
      Anyways it usually wins with tempo plays and or infinites. For example a zombie I am running (zombie engin) is grave titan.
      I can utilize entomb and with my commander out I can do a 5 mana tutor any creature card and put it on the field. Say I search a grave titan. I put 8 power on the board all at instant speed that will let me scry 3 and burn for 3 at upkeep. At the same time I will have many counters spells.
      My oponents would be looking at atleast 16 damage with my commander 5 scarab god 8 grave titan and 3 from burn.
      Another win con is to destroy and steal my opponents creatures. Many decks dont play around this simple win con. It mostly does huge tempo plays and wins infinites.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      AAAAA. I am trying to learn spanish. Or I was. Sorry don't understand much from your videos. But I did understand foto perfecta. Perfecting your photography?
      Is it a Fashion channel? I did see some nice clothes and you pointing at them?

    • @ImageGreatness
      @ImageGreatness Před 6 lety

      @@cedhtv yes its a mens image channel. Foto perfecta meaning perfect photo. As in how to take a perfect profile photo.
      Usually I talk about topics on mens Image that other men dont really teach.
      Also really into magic. Anyways you can share your opinion when you have time.

  • @minokalu1682
    @minokalu1682 Před 6 lety +1

    What about Ruric Thar :^)

  • @karolmanecki6575
    @karolmanecki6575 Před 5 lety +1

    Is Aminatou can be really competitive? It's my favorite commanders period, and she surely can win really fast

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +1

      She can be. She isn't the strongest thing you could assemble. But she is doing a good job.

    • @YourPalRowan
      @YourPalRowan Před 4 lety

      I feel like she's a combo starter and combo enabler

  • @edwardfeldman3533
    @edwardfeldman3533 Před 5 lety +2

    How is it that the deck should not contain bad cards but dramatic reversal is played all the time

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +2

      I actually consider that card good. It's a ritual. Often you have other wincons inside your deck you can go for. I have actually cast that spell from time to time just as a ritual.
      I have also seen players cast creatures with flash only for the instant speed trick. I friend cast his reclamation sage with flash once.

  • @koreyg8552
    @koreyg8552 Před 4 lety

    That’s why I love sram

  • @joaopaulogarcia183
    @joaopaulogarcia183 Před 4 lety

    Is ghave a competitive pick, or he is too slow?

  • @eliasmtg4916
    @eliasmtg4916 Před 6 lety +4

    You had a hair at the bottom right hand corner of your screen and it drove me crazy

  • @toomanyrats534
    @toomanyrats534 Před 5 lety

    So Mikaeus Unhallowed is a cEDH commander because he allows me to sacrifice infinite creatures if my deck is full of persist creatures.

    • @Dev-fe7fk
      @Dev-fe7fk Před 4 lety

      (this is late, I am aware) He is a combo piece, but he has a high CMC along with having little interaction as his identity is restricted. Nothing stronger than semi-competitive, and even that is a stretch...

  • @TD4355-e7u
    @TD4355-e7u Před 5 lety

    New neheb is both draw and combo piece and with new better red cards coming out he can be really strong I can win turn 3 or 2 if I get a god hand.

  • @MultiTaz333
    @MultiTaz333 Před 6 lety +6

    "bad cards"

  • @elbehemoth386
    @elbehemoth386 Před 4 lety

    Is Oona any good?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 4 lety +2

      not in my opinion. A bit to expensiv and she dosen't draw any cards.

    • @elbehemoth386
      @elbehemoth386 Před 4 lety +1

      @@cedhtv That's fair. I've heard people talking about her being a combo piece in the command zone if you go infinite on mana.

    • @09Dragonite
      @09Dragonite Před 4 lety

      @@elbehemoth386 her Painter's Servant combo is really cool, but cmc6 is difficult in U/B unless you have a Dramatic/Scepter or Power Artifact mana combo early. But she also has access to perfect tutors with black mana, so that is a plus for sure. And on top of all of this, she now has access to Thassa's Oracle and Inverter of Truths if you want to go for just using U/B as support for your combo. She could also play Storm and Cheerios back when Paradox Engine was a thing, but without the Engine both of those are much more difficult to pull off. She was once very playable, but now she might be more of a defensive commander than an offensive one, and you'll almost always be on the back foot until your opponents try to take the fight to the stack where you can route their spells and protect your glass cannon. I only say this because I also built the commander once, and it was fantastic to play until faster and more efficient engines became more and more common.

  • @billable1861
    @billable1861 Před 6 lety +3

    I think the majority of your videos have been about competitive multiplayer decks. I’m more interested playing cEDH 1v1. Depending on the crowd they either want to play mtgo 30 life or French. I actually think the ban list for French is pretty fair. A lot of what you said rings true for those as well but I enjoy it more for its range of viable options. It doesn’t always have to be straight combo it can be aggro or disruption too.

    • @zets8238
      @zets8238 Před 6 lety +1

      Billable 1v1 is a completely different thing to Cedh, not sure if there is any dedicated channels for that format

    • @billable1861
      @billable1861 Před 6 lety +1

      Zetś it’s not all that different a lot of the commanders he showcases are also used in those often with similar strategies. I suspect it’s because they are both COMPETITIVE.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      I don't play 1v1 french anymore. So I don't know that formate or mate game anymore. And I don't wanna do videos about something that I'm not an expert in.
      I stopped playing when they started banning everything. And I never picked it up again because I dislike formats that change to much in the banlist.

    • @Speetlebeetle
      @Speetlebeetle Před 6 lety

      Billable you mean playing mono red burn in 1v1?

    • @billable1861
      @billable1861 Před 6 lety

      Speetlebeetle that’s a consideration but there is other aggressive strats

  • @matthewosborne8384
    @matthewosborne8384 Před 4 lety +1

    Edric is insane. A friend of mine runs him with 1 drop evasion creatures, synergy pieces, and extra turn spells. It goes off Turn 3-4 and wins on his turn 10, that's if he isn't on infinite turns by that point.

  • @FrozenFlesh
    @FrozenFlesh Před 5 lety +1

    Hi, I really fell in love with Yennett, and I have a lot of fun playing with her.
    I would love to make her somehow viable for CEDH.
    If I understood correctly, she falls under the “desires bad cards” cathegory, and she is also expensive with 5 cmc.
    Do you have suggestions how to make the deck work in cEDH? I would love to see you making a deck tech for her!
    Here’s my list. Thank you, and keep up the good work!
    www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1369781#paper

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +1

      Yes, you understand correctly. And no offense but you deck is field with casual stapels. But that is the thing. All you need to do is change a few cards in your list and BOOOM!
      Your deck needs a gameplan. Currently it looks like you just swinging it, trying to figure things out ass you go along. You should figure out a way to win the game. Build a good Esper deck with a good gameplan. Then, sure Yennett is expensive. But she has one really good thing. She draws cards. A commander that can do that is playable.
      Your gameplan could be this. Reanimate. Reanimate something really big. But with a brainstorm you can trick it into play with Yennett. This deck should play scroll rack btw. Doomsday could be your gameplan.
      A few tweeks and your deck could be really good.

    • @FrozenFlesh
      @FrozenFlesh Před 5 lety

      Thanks a lot for responding!
      Yes, right now I play it in a casual environment, but I may upgrade it.
      It’s good to hear from someone who knows a lot more about cEDH, that it could be playable. I know it won’t be top tier, but if I wont be completely stomped every time, thats good enough. :)
      I will consider going for doomsday and lab maniac, and adding scroll rack.

  • @willemboele2079
    @willemboele2079 Před 5 lety

    the way these cards are sleeved makes me want to drink a liter of concentrated lemonade syrup

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      oh god please don't.

    • @willemboele2079
      @willemboele2079 Před 5 lety

      @@cedhtv please just push the perfect fit's all the way down DX

  • @deinemam7115
    @deinemam7115 Před 5 lety

    couldnt memnarch be still strong? You goal is getting an infinite mana combo for which you dont need memnarch. Blue has enough artifact and spell tutors to get its pieces fast enough, in a deck similar to CVT teferi. and with infinite mana you can cast memnarch and have your infinite memnarch activations. It would not be tier 1 or something, but defenitely competetive

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      I belive he is currently semi competitive because of his 7 mana cost. If you wanna have an expensive commander, luke 7 mana. You need a deck that is okay without your commander. Mono blue can do that. But in general you wanna have more colors.

  • @AUGOM0919
    @AUGOM0919 Před 6 lety

    Saffi.. Where is Saffi..?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      She is a bit shy. She didn't wanna show herself infront of my camera.
      But as a commander she doesn't bring that much. Sure you can do some cool stuff with her ... but ...

  • @deinemam7115
    @deinemam7115 Před 5 lety +1

    animar semi competetive lol

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +2

      People made an upgrade for this commander not long ago. But when I made this video Animar wasn't regarded that strong within the community. Even from the upgrade, Animar got. I still don't view him stronger then Semi-competitive. He has a lot of good stuff going for him. And I really like the commander. The deck playes really cool.
      But. No. Sorry. He isn't that strong.

  • @yamsigal5570
    @yamsigal5570 Před 5 lety

    NAJEELA. NOT NAYLIA

  • @LuisAguilar-vp7qu
    @LuisAguilar-vp7qu Před 6 lety +13

    So zombie cards are bad? Because that's basically the only thing that you said about Gisa and Geralf, you will have to fill the deck with bad carda because zombies are bad. Huh.

    • @LuisAguilar-vp7qu
      @LuisAguilar-vp7qu Před 6 lety

      Also, what about Voltron Commanders?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +7

      1) A cards i bad when there is another card that is doing the exakt or close enough the same thing but better. Maybe it has a better CMC or some other extra option. Birds of paradise is better then elvish mystic. Except if you go elf tribal.
      2) a card is bad if it dosen't do anything in the meta. My best example for that is mystical remora in legacy. That card dosen't do anything en legacy. But in EDH its broken. While voice of resurgence is great in modern but dosen't do anything en EDH. Casual zombi cards usually dosen't do anything in EDH meta.

    • @LuisAguilar-vp7qu
      @LuisAguilar-vp7qu Před 6 lety +5

      @@cedhtv in other words, do the exact same thing everyone that wins do, anything else is bad.
      In that case then I guess it's better to play Yu-Gi-Oh, since that is exactly the kind of thing that made me leave that game.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +7

      I never Said that you have to do the exakt same thing that everyone else is doing. You can play competative and how powerfule decks with a lot of variants. In THE END most EDH decks behaivs and look the same. But are all difrent in what cards they play and what gameplay they have. And then every now and then there is a crazy new deck idé in a pod. So No, you don't have to copy.

    • @snakeman830
      @snakeman830 Před 6 lety +1

      How are zombies bad? Have you looked at them? Zombies as a tribe are at the top of board-warping power, easily capable of overwhelming, board-wiping(one-sided) and smacking large amounts of life even before recurring. Also quite capable of strong card advantage.

  • @pariah2091
    @pariah2091 Před 6 lety

    Just want to fix the pronunciation of Najeela, instead of "Ny-Leah" it is properly pronounced "Nah-Gee-La". Sorry if I sound like a cunt just trying to help and give a quick fix outside of that solid video.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety

      No it's okey. I have always wondered how she is pronounced. So I appreciate it.

  • @FunnyPrankLaughs
    @FunnyPrankLaughs Před 4 lety

    Hmm, you’re wrong about animar. He’s not semi competitive. He’s fully competitive, and creatures are all he needs, with a few tutors and counters, in temur colors to make him cedh. I should know, I’ve been playing cedh animar for awhile

  • @matthewlugo2417
    @matthewlugo2417 Před 5 lety

    Stop playing infinite combos your ruining the game! That is all

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety +5

      If your opponents are playing a game you dislike you tell them to go away. This channel is showing competitive decks playing the best possible strategis. Under the terms that every one in the play group is okay with it. Every one should play one the same power level. Or as close ass possible.
      I agree that infinit combos are ruining the game for casual playgroups. But infinit combos is a fundamental core to competitive play groups.
      That is all.

  • @usernameunidentified9874

    0:20
    Najeela is a mono red card meaning you can only use red cards.
    1:30
    Tasigur is a mono black card meaning you can only use black cards.
    2:26
    Alesha is a mono red card meaning you can only use red cards.
    4:41
    Tazri is a mono white card meaning you can only use white cards.
    5:46
    Memnarch is a colorless card meaning you can only use colorless cards.
    Mono colored commanders aren't that good unless it's Teferi.
    Also, I have seen Gisa and Geralf win games against all of those "competitive commanders" you've mentioned.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 5 lety

      Yeay! you came back I was waiting for an answer. So lets go back where we left off. You never answer my question.
      mtgcommander.com/rules.php
      This is the official rules of commander. If you click on deck construction. They say that color identity and the cards actual color isen't the same. Would you like to respond to that?

    • @joaoa.p.guerra8429
      @joaoa.p.guerra8429 Před 5 lety +2

      Pretty sure it’s a troll, or at least the extent of their lack of knowledge is so preposterous that I have no idea how they even know what cedh means. That is, if they actually do.

    • @usernameunidentified9874
      @usernameunidentified9874 Před 5 lety

      @@joaoa.p.guerra8429 As a level 3 judge, I do know what cEDH means.

    • @joaoa.p.guerra8429
      @joaoa.p.guerra8429 Před 5 lety +1

      Username Unidentified lmao, as level three judge, you know what cedh is, but not how color identity works? Makes lots of sense.

    • @usernameunidentified9874
      @usernameunidentified9874 Před 5 lety

      @@joaoa.p.guerra8429 I do know how color identity works. It's the colors on the card's CMC.

  • @teolamquang1665
    @teolamquang1665 Před 6 lety

    Just wondering when will the video about aminatou be coming out?

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Před 6 lety +1

      I don't know either. ahhhh. I have looked a lot on aminatou and seen so much things she can do. That I have so many options on how to build her that I can't make up my mind. When I have an ide on what she can do, I get a new ide.
      So instead of making a deck tech about her I might make a review on what you can with her.