The Archeology of the Atlatl
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A couple of things. First, the fletched darts used with the spear thrower had a wide range in length. A set found along with a spear thrower in a cave in Northern California near Lake Shasta were around a meter long. They were fletched, and without the spear thrower also present, would have been thought to be arrows. Second, that particular spear thrower lacked a spur. In stead, it had a short span of sinew across a notch in the distal end. The darts were slotted like the end of an arrow that engages a bow string. One other thing that might help along the way is that when you throw the dart, if you complete your throw with the thrower point at your target, you may have an easier time hitting the target. The reason is that the spear thrower remains in a vertical plane that passes the target and through which your throwing motion moves when you launch the dart. If you allow the thrower to move off to one side as it rotates, you add a horizontal rotation to your dart that forces it off to one side of your target. This can be compensated for during aiming, but it's more effort and demands far more consistency in the arm motion.
@@theeddorianI like the throwing advice that seems pretty logical. I just wanted to demonstrate what it would look like. I just throw for funsies. Also as far as archeology goes, This may have been located in Nevada instead but the word Shasta sounds familiar. They found a atlatl in a layer underneath a Shasta ground sloth in a cave which I thought was pretty cool I wish it was dated to paleo times but turned out to be archaic in time
Excellent video! Some years ago my brother gave me an atlatl with fiberglass shafts, fletched, and threaded for both field points and broad heads. I quickly found the atlatl doubled my throw distance, and using the mud of a creek bank the atlatl would double the depth I could throw the spear into the mud. I was very impressed, and it did not take long to be able to use the spear thrower, although making accurate throws would take quite a bit of practice. The name of the company that made the atlatl and spears was Tate Industries.
Thank you I really wish atlatls were used in the Olympics, closest thing we have is a javelin throw but it doesn't hit the same
What an outstanding video. It was quite comprehensive and covered both the time and space axis quite well. Keep it up.
Hay cousin come to Australia it’s got lots of names here. Still used to hunt by cool cats down here. Remember we were once from the same place.
Our mob hunted Dragons. Bunyips flat faced Roos and giant wombats. With glass tiped “spears and Woomera”. 80 thousand years ago.
@@richardmiller1345 I would love too, Australia is a crazy place but in a unique way y’all are built different haha
@richardmiller1345 loved your comment bra. We are all cousins. Some of us twice removed. What do y'all hunt?
In my neck of the woods, it’s called a Woomera
Given the fact that the atlatle or woomera was widely used in Australia, which was settled by modern Sapiens about 50K years ago, the invention of the atlatle could be that old.
Great docu, clearly presented and excellent illustrations, mappage, etc.,...really enjoyed and learned. Keep it up, bro! 😊
Great video bra! The art work on some of those is absolutely beautiful. That bison turning its head !!!
Excellent, very informative, well done, Thanks for sharing. Like, Subscribed, Shared.
that is a very fine doc ....... well done !
Interesting! The Woomera looks like it has the weight built in to the thrower. The banner stones might provide weight and a grip alternative to the finger holes ...
In my opinion, to understand why the atlatl became obsolete in much of the world, it is important to understand the likely context in which it was used: megafauna hunting. The main advantage of an atlatl over a bow is penetration. Observing bows used by tribes in South America and Africa makes me believe that primitive bows were not extremely powerful and perhaps not as suitable for huge animals in prehistoric times. I believe the atlatl was used with extremely heavy darts to transfer maximum energy and penetration. As megafauna disappeared, prehistoric man found himself forced to depend on hunting smaller and more agile species, which perhaps led to the popularization of archery due to its stealth and speed.
And the long Clovis Points were likewise suited to deep penetration, with the heyday or Era of Clovis coinciding with the Megafauna extiction.
I loved the beginning where you show how they were made! I never knew about the feathers and pine glue.
@@DoogiesEarthworks Thank you friend
Great job on the video. I'm going to use this video as an example of expository informative documentary with a smooth and comfortable voice-over containing just a sprinkling of slang. Thanks, buddy.
@@chrisking2796 thanks!
Personally, I could do without the "slang'. Lets just stick with being informative, OK ?
Great video!
I agree! Help the guy out with a longer comment. The suggestion algorithm likes longer comments. Lol
You have a good brain and I'm sure your productions will continue to improve as your grasp of English matures. And, when like a lot of us who had morons for English teachers--usually third-world representatives that could hardly read or write, you determine to become better at communication than they were, or could be.
Well done video explaining the use of such a primitive but extremely effective weapon, amazing to me that most peoples of the world figured out its use😎😎😎
Great video.I really enjoyed it.
At 7.55 it's most likely an agrochemicals, the predecessors of modern cows
These were used in the movie Quest for Fire.
Woomeras is the name of only one of 400 indigenous Australian languages and just as there are numerous indigenous art styles there are different styles of spear throwers. If you compare the photos of the flat throwers from central Australia (one of your earlier photos with that of the man from Northern Australia holding a spear and spear thrower you can clearly see they are distinct.
@@sheilbwright7649 Looks like I’ve just scratched the surface. That’s interesting
@@PaleoPassion One of the many sad things about colonialism in Australia is the rendering of a diverse group (some 900 distinct groups) into a singular "the Aborigines" To this day the right wing in Australia has a special interest in misinformation on anything to do with indigenous Australians to the extent that they even argue over the length of indigenous settlement. The last academic work I read placed it at 50,000 years but that may move backwards as our knowledge increases. With at least 50,000 years it may well pop up in your work. For accuracy and sensitivity beware of any generalisations in the sources you consult because I am certain you would like to be as accurate and sensitive as possible.
@@PaleoPassion Sorry if the last comes across as patronizing that wasn't intended. If I didn't respect your work I would have been unambiguously rude, very rude. I do rude well.
@@sheilbwright7649 Oh you’re fine. I live in the States and don’t have much background knowledge on Australia in general. I wanted to briefly introduce the Woomera in this video. I know it’s horrible how the indigenous peoples of Australia have been treated it’s the same situation as the United States Native Americans.
There is no short A sound in most languages, and atlatle should be pronounced as "oughtloughtle". Also, the sin in sinew should rhyme with pin. The "ogne" in Dordogne is pronounced as "own".
A native person could make a point in minutes,not hours or days.Their life depended on it.They also could make weapons in mere minutes,because they were all experts at weapon making.
Thank you all for the support! If you really enjoyed this video, check out the next one if your interested in archeology, history and weapons, the next video is about the Sling and its history. czcams.com/video/uyHXb3pykA0/video.html
hallo very good video, but the more the animal to lill is better, the smaller has to be the point, bigger points are to stop birds and kighet preys, the megafauna was killed with a lot of throwing, each to perforate the hard skin to cause blood loss, a slower and heavier point is to stop at the istant birds or rabbits....I have built and used few atlats and darts...very relaxing and funny, for the ones that can do, try it
Believe it or not, not commonly known, the Roman Legions used them!
@@anthonyburke5656 Didn’t know that, that’s pretty cool!
A'tla'tl - would be closer to the Nahuatl pronunciation. Atl'atl is an English mispronunciation. Nahuatl is not a dead language. People in Mexico continue to speak it. Thanks for posting this video.
But why the term atlatl ? Aztec? Just asking tucky style heeheehee 🤪
Missed a lot of interest off
Some folks have a long way to go before they approach the level of skill and knowledge of stone age tech. You are jumping to too many conclusions about Neanderthals. You are presupposing superiority in tech and abilities and relying on old tropes. What gets ignored often when discussing things like clovis point culture and their use:
Animals charge, especially the larger animals. Why would you throw away your only means of self defense and then risk getting trampled? Wouldn't it be smarter (these people were dumb) to plan the shaft against something solid and trick the animal into impaling itself on the shaft? Risky, yes, but not as risky as chucking a spear and really making the mammoth angry. Imagine for a moment bullfighting....yeah. That will give you a closer clue into how it was done. Now imagine bullfighters using spears instead of swords.
People hunted like wolves...in packs, taunting and cajoling the beasts into exhaustion and most importantly taking advantage of the mistakes the animal made and tricking it into making those mistakes. It wasn't a matter of bravado where you had Rambone out there with his stick and pointy rock taking on a beast in one shot with a spear.
Also, even the Neanderthals were capable of making straight sticks. Those bent and curled spears they found were warped from exposure to moisture. They took better care of their equipment that they labored to create. And nobody needed to teach "straight" to them because using a wigly stick taught them in a hurry to use a straight stick.
The most common material used to fasten fletching was sinew and not hemp rope bought at their local Ace Hardware store, but you did get the pitch glue right, uhm, somewhat.
People like to think of these people as primatives. Well, they passed knowledge down from generation to generation just as we do, as primative as we would like to think they were. They shared what WORKED and what was useful.
People indiginous to North and South America were not primative in their techniques nor their skills but had not developed steel and cast iron and were relying on what they had at hand. Before they had horses they had the amazing ability to run, and they had dogs too...and those dogs were pack animals that they hitched a travois to.
The most overlooked implement of all? The travois. Hollywood, Writers, and "Imagineers" really overlook what is essentially a way to pack all of that meat back to camp.
Most people make the mistake of thinking of small hunting parties as the entirety of the cultures of these times. They also traded and were highly networked and had rudimentary agriculture and things such as fish farming. They could see what beavers were doing and take advantage of beaver ponds.
What kept the population low was high infant mortality and lack of health care. Infections killed off a large number of them as well as losses during hunting expeditions, and territorial disputes and wars. When times got lean, cannibalism wasn't the exception but the rule.
Their knowledge of the materials they were working with were better than yours. They didn't have books so they studied everything in their environment and knew every single type of plant and had a use of one kind or another for what they found. They knew which bones would be the best and strongest for making tools out of. They had a sense of the material properties of rocks they found. They knew the best recipes for making glue. They knew how to process skins and sinews. They knew animal behavior extremely well. They knew how to watch the sky and read the clouds and knew if a storm was coming in. They knew dozens of ways to make a fire. And they knew how to take advantage of the landscape. Modern people would suffer under the living conditions very rapidly but after a couple of generations they would find out, even if they had nobody to teach them in the first place. The world is your teacher.
Fucking auto correct. How the hell does it get "agrochemicals " from aurochs.
Because it comes from Google.
It is pronounced SIN-Yew (sinew). Chum.
At-latl not ata latyl