Why Darth Vader CRYING In Obi-Wan Is So Important
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This scene where Vader and Anakin's voices overlap and alternate between each other, is truly of my favorite Star Wars scenes. It was so perfectly done.
It was indeed a good scene. Credit where it is due.
Amen
and the lighting too. when its anakin talking the blue lightsaber illuminates his face, when its vader the lighting is red
@@joaobrito2653 chef's kiss
Sounds like a distorted old anakin
When Anakin says, "I'm am what remains", that said it all. Deep down, Anakin Skywalker knows that becoming Darth Vader was not a triumph. It was an incredibly painful loss of his former self.
Yep. Anakin resigned himself to being Vader. He has lost everything: Vader is all that's left
@@LokiDaHyena0427 Yes! Yes! Yes!
I cried at that very moment...
What Anakin fears the most is knowledge. Anakin just is an escape from Sleemo, Darth Vader an escape from immortallity. The emperor just plays Valkorian the more evil, like Max the worsened Moritz. French language avoids "H" because of Max ß Moritz; plaintext = Hitler ß Hannibal
@@johnnyscifi 🥲👍
Hayden did an amazing job when given amazing lines and good lighting. He should get done serious recognition for this because he sells Anakin perfectly. Now i always see Hayden under the mask when I watch.
Indeed. This show was definitely needed. It really solidified anakin being darth vader. Ofcourse we all already knew he was… but you just see it and look into it so much more now
I am what remains, dammit!! muhhhhhaha
I know. Me too.
Hayden deserves a Darth Vader Series of his own.
@@treyowen9213 well, whole star wars saga is about Anakin/Vader.
I've been a Star Wars fan for over 40 years, and this was easily the most powerful and emotional moment in the franchise. Anakin coming forward for just a moment to release his former master of his guilt by telling him it wasn't his fault, to have Vader re-emerge and gloat over killing Anakin was just brilliant. It's crazy that it has taken over 4 decades to get to the point of how Obi-Wan may have been the single most important character in the SW universe. And that scene alone was better than the entire sequel trilogy combined.
Rey should of been a Kenobi
That’s because the Sequels are trash! Just like most of this series! It should not have even been called Obi Won Kenobi!!!
What ST?
R2-D2 was the most important character lol
Nail on the head fella
I think Anakin/Vader screaming Obi-Wan's name as Obi-wan walked away was his crying out in frustration that his former friend hadn't struck him down and finished him off, putting Anakin out of his guilt-riddled misery.
agree, painful to watch.....again
Could be true? However I don't believe that he wanted to be struck down. The frustration of being beaten once again by his former master left him with nothing but more anger towards himself.
I also heard a despair in his voice. He doesn't want to be left alone AGAIN. It's a very good scene.
@sid g damn that’d be beautiful
@@aishaq1993 this is possibly even more correct, although little remained of Anakin the conflict was very strong. i believe it was Anakin crying out of frustration because his former master although apologized, hadn’t helped him turn to the light.
When Vader says “I am not your failure” I don’t think it’s Vader talking, it’s the last remnant of Anakin telling Obi Wan it’s not his fault and the Anakin is the only one that’s responsible
That's what I thought as well. I felt like possibly in that moment maybe they "both" might have realized it.
I totally agree.... In that moment when you see the blue hue of the lightsaber in Darth Vader's broken mask I clearly I got the impression that was Anakin telling Obi-Wan its not his fault as well . And then when the red hue comes back it is ALL Vader speaking.
BRILLIANT WRITING & ACTING😱👏👏👏👏👏👏
it for sure is. the light on his face is blue. when he says ' i will destroy you' the light is red
Agree completely, people saying it's a "fuck you old man" miss the point of why Vader is the way he is. Vader is powered by hate, yes, but hate for himself. Anakin was weak and lost everything by being a child, Vader is what remains. I like to think part of the reason Obi Wan and Ahsoka could never bring Anakin back is because he views them as his own personal failures. He could never be redeemed to them truly because everything he did hurt them. Luke brought Vader back because he was quite literally his biggest failure (the murder of his wife and unborn children) telling him that he was innocent for this one act and that he could be redeemed.
I agree. I think that line was the last we hear from Anakin. But it is quickly taken over by Vader. And I think we he says “You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker...I did” Vader is smiling.
After Obi Wan smashed his breathing plate in, I felt more pity for him than anything. Hearing him wheezing… clearly beaten. Yet still delusional enough to think he could win this fight, when he can barely stand. It was so sad…
I would've kicked Anakin / Vader square in the 🥜 sack if I were Obi-Wan.
After watching episode 2 I felt sorry for Vader when he was defeated by Luke, falling to the floor going, "iiiiaaaahhhhhhhh"
He could’ve won still
He just got his ass handed to him. He couldn’t breathe, or even stand by the time Obi Wan left. You’re as delusional as him 🤣
@@Cts_99 how by using the force or something cause he barley could stand
I feel like this is the first scene in all of star wars where I truly felt the gravity and how tragic it was that Anakin turned. I’ve known just because of the story line how impactful it was but this is the first time I really felt it on screen. Great performances by both.
this comment, yes. same. I watched the prequels because of this show, too and im KICKING myself for listening to anyone who said they sucked or weren't worth watching
@@bissum4227 ongg
Should check out the comics too. It adds a lot to Anakin’s/Vader’s story
@@bissum4227 The prequels are excellent stories.
The movies could've been made better, way better, but they're still good and most importantly they're crucial to the story.
In psychology, when we do something we regret but we can't go back and change our actions/right our wrongs, that puts us into an extremely uncomfortable state of cognitive dissonance. To compensate/eliminate this, we convince ourselves instead that we don't regret our actions at all, that what we did was justified. The Vader half deals with the cognitive dissonance and guilt stemming from his actions by focusing on his hatred and anger, convincing himself that the Jedi deserved what they got by turning their backs on him and refusing to save Padme, that Obi-Wan deserves to be punished for injuring him on Mustafar. The Anakin half deals with the guilt, depression and self-hatred by retreating deep inside. Once in a while, we do see Anakin emerge, e.g. in this scene where we see both Anakin and Vader speaking. It wasn't Vader crying, it was Anakin.
This is mad I am reading a book about cognitive dissonance and this is very true, never even thought about it like this. Also not star wars but if you like that stuff a book called mistakes were made but not by me is a very good read about this topic
@@theo2781 I do like psychology as I did a BA in it, even though I ended up in medicine. Thank you for the book recommendation. :)
@@WonderfulHayden sounds great, I am just about to start at university to do psychology as I love it, so especially as someone that likes it too would definitely be a good read in my opinion, just explores cognitive dissonance etc. Glad that you appreciate it :)
@@theo2781 Do it. Psychology is an excellent major. I also did biochemistry at the same time as science prep for med and that was such a slog at times, but my psych courses and readings just zoomed by because the material was so gripping.
@@WonderfulHayden I am very glad to hear that, I am not sure if your American as I only have the option to do straight psychology as I will be going to uni in England (I could be wrong) so no other courses can be taken such as with you, biochemistry, however I am sure the content will not be too different so I am glad it will continue to be so interesting as it already is for me at the moment.
The way the blue light from Obi wan’s light saber radiated on Anakin’s face. Such a powerful scene🥺
And then the blue pulled away, showing Anakin’s further choice to the dark side
@@OfficialDeezyGaming no .. the blue pulled away because they were just moving their lightsabers.... Wth people?
@@glasshalfempty1984 you’re both right, the light sabres explain the use of red/blue to show his nature
Lighting has been key in alot of the star wars scenes lately.
@@glasshalfempty1984 the colors of the sabers are representing the context. like in the originals, the characters didn't have to say anything to explain what was going on. like how in this fight, the Anakin inside vader was talking (blue emitting from Kenobis saber) then when the red saber took over, it was back to vader. The lighting was basically showing context. Anakin didnt have to say anything for the audience to know that it was anakin talking and not vader. the Colors did that.
This is why Anakin is my favorite character in all of Star Wars. We’ve all felt like we’re not loved, respected or trusted, and when you do find that one person that actually does care and does try to understand what you’re going through, you’re willing to do almost anything to help them. As the man said, Anakin desperately needed love, affection and a father figure, and I can relate so much to him because I personally went a long time without any of those things in my life.
That is only part of why Anakin fell to darkside. The Jedi treated Anakin like any other Jedi. They saw it as important that he be treated no different. They were harder on him because he was supposed to be the choosen one. So they expected more out of him. His actions were reckless and he was prone to acting on his emotions which the Jedi felt to be a weakness and a path to the darkside.
It never occurred to Jedi council to treat him different to give him some bend. In so doing so learn that maybe the old way of doing things wasnt necessarily the right way. They couldn't see that because they were stuck in their ways.
The Jedi were doing what they Jedi had been doing for a 1,000 years. Love in mind of the Jedi leads to attachment and that is path to the darkside.
While it can lead some one down a dark path. It can also be a force for good. It can inspire some one to do good things. It can offer comfort and rest in dark times.
The mistake that pushed Anakin to dark side was he was in love and he couldn't stand by and let women he love die. Yet he had no one to turn to for help except Sidious.
I've always argued that Anakin turned to the dark side out of desperation. But I also believe that he believe he was so powerful he could go to darkside learn what he need and retain the good person he was.
Only problem was the more evil acts he committed the more he had to justify it in his mind. By time he faced Obi-Wan he bent and twisted his own mind trying to justify his own actions. Then when Padma died he shatter the part of him that was Anakin. To point were the good person he was retreated and all that was left was Anger and hate and Pain which took the form of Vader.
George Lucas was right when he said Vader comes off as this terrifying being but in reality he a pathetic man behind a mask. He just broken on so many levels.
I dont see Vader the same way I used to because of the prequels and Obi-Wan series and even the comics. I feel nothing but pitty for him. I feel sorry for him.
Ironic that his love for Padme turned him to the Dark Side, but Luke's love for him turned him back to the light.
Bro this hit me hard. I'm so sorry, my dad wasn't there for me like I needed him to be. He's changed, redeemed himself, but yeah it sucks, and I totally get what your saying and for me at least it makes this so much more powerful and even really enhanced the scene in return of the Jedi with luke.bvader is watch the emperor torture Luke with force lightning, it shows Vader's mask with a close up and you can hear Luke in the background pleading for help. Even though Vaders face is under the mask you can literally see the moment he makes his shift to the light side. So much emotion in that one little scene and you can't even see his face. It's a severely underrated gem in cinema history. And it's made all the more powerful by what transpurdd in this fight. Disney ruined the new movies imo. But this brought my faith back into it.
I must admit, this scene was not only perfect, but also very emotional. I rarely get emotional when watching anything, but here I damn felt sad. This whole scene where Obi Wan sees what Anakin has turned into is too painful. It seems that at that moment Anakin woke up and literally said "I didn't want all this"
It could have been perfect, the shaky cam sucks considering the context of the moment they shared. I broke down immediately when Kenobi apologized, obviously we know Anakin was never completely extinguished, just replaced by Vader. Then again, he was always Vader. Love, the war, and his unborn child(ren) drove him to the dark side completely. The perfect villainous hero.
Everything after the fight was good..the fight they gave us…idek
I blame Mace Windu for the distrust. He was the main instigator of it. His stubbornness and arrogance directly contributed to Anakins fall to the dark side. I wish Mace was explored more. There's so much we just don't know.
You might be right but Mace was strong with the force even in the dark side to a certain extent according to the novels. With that said I think Mace along with Yoda they fear that Anakin was too vulnerable to fall into the dark side which is the reason they didn't really gave him the open door treatment. At the end Anakin didn't kill younglings for pleasure but to save the love of his life not knowing that his actual choices is what actually killed her. What doesn't make a lot of sense is after knowing that Padme was dead why did he continued to be a sith..??? and the answer is like they said on this video, it had to do with Palpatine being the only person that he actually trusted and waws like a father figure while Obiwan was just trying to shove the Jedi law on his throat even thou he was already breaking the Jedi code by falling in love and marrying Padme.
a lot of the jedi council were to blame for Anakins fall to the dark side, even Yoda
All of jedi is to blame... old ways didnt want to give up their seat of power to younger generation.
The Jedi council were literally looking at what they were going to cause by shunning him, they were just too blind to see what they were actually doing.
THANK YOU! I haven't seen the prequels in a long time, but I remember as a kid thinking that while everyone on the Council gave Anakin a bit too much bullshit, as much as I loved the dude and his purple lightsaber, Mace Windu was the biggest instigator of them all. I never really heard that too much and am glad my memory of my kid self's impression was right lol that was another reason it was sorta lucky that it was Windu who confronted Palpatine, as I would imagine and if I remember correctly that out of everyone on the Council, Anakin's biggest grudge would have been on Windu at that point.
"I'm not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker, I did."
Last kick of Anakin Skywalker
So dark
That got me. Holy fackn goosebumps batman
Best line in the series!! ❤️
@@Clear-As-Muddyes for sure 🤟
Hearing the REAL ANAKINS voice coming from Vader was so much heavier than I thought it could be. 10 years in their time but like 17 years for fans. I can imagine it didn’t take much acting for Ewan Mcgregor hearing Hayden’s voice coming from Vader when he says “Anakin is gone” hearing his older voice gasping for air and rage fueled was the only jaw dropping thing I can remember seeing in years. Seeing his true face now and that true face is just Darth Vaders, IMMACULATE execution
😂
Agreed friend.. I wasn't fond of how vastly the change came about. But after watching clone wars there's just so. Much they could put into revenge of the sith. This scene choked me up. Especially the way obi wan says I'm sorry. It's so laden with guilt. It's the first time since Jedi them at we see a human being instead of a just a villain. The scene when Luke is telling him Anakin isn't dead. They take Luke away but Vader remains on. Kmthe balcony, clearly wrestling with the turmoil Luke had just stirred up.
In that moment. When Obi wan stared into the yellow tired eyes of his former apprentice for the first time since their battle, he didn't see a see sith lord, or a murderer or a failed apprentice who wronged him. He just saw Anakin, little Ani, the boy who looked up at him during Qui gons funeral and asked what would become of him. The promise he made to him that he would be a Jedi. The endless critisims he gave him and his ultimate failure as his master to protect him. All he could say to him was
"I'm sorry..."
That single tear vader shed and even his haughty attempt at "comforting" Obi wan by saying he is not to blame for Anakins death. Really shows just how far gone he was but traces of humanity still lingered within him.
Those 2 words were all Anakin ever needed to hear. It could have saved him so much pain.
Anakins life experiences have been a tragic case of abuse and manipulation. Even as a Sith Lord. Obi Wan was truly the only friend he had who never used him to better his own cause. Part of Vader really missed that companionship.
All of that makes his end all the more uplifting when his own son manages to pull him back to the light, after all the pain and suffering he went through.
That's gotta really haunt him in his sleep he was a hero of the jedi but having it keep you up maybe a kinder word here or there and everything could have been different. Not only that but being haunted at how he failed his master who told him to take care of anakin.
It really highlights what happens to high risk children who had a bad start in the real world now society ignores or abuses them them gas lights them. Anakin was the best of then potential wise and that potential came with it a higher risk. They needed to give him more because he needed more, not less. He was treated like a defect til the end so he ended up becoming a sith, a defective jedi. Even equal treatment would have likely been enough.
That apology... I felt so satisfied when it happened. And this felt like something that stuck with Anakin up until the end. Vader's conflict throughout the series, is that push and pull between the light side and the dark side of the force. Which all compiled to the end when he chooses to save his son and casts out Palpatine. Anakin never left, he was just lost.
It's the same thing that happened with kylo ren/Ben Solo. Must really suck having Skywalker blood in you lol
@@harleyalderson3533 True. Cept with Anakin was a better and more ruthless villain. With Kylo Ren he just a tad like aapoiledchild throwing a tantrum..with Vader it was just the cold silence.
"The light fades, but is never forgotten"
Son saved Father, a loving redemption. Son kills his father out of hate for…(maybe Not being a strong Jedi, maybe something how he treated Leah, or ?)
@@evangelinemacasil6964 He killed Han Solo because he was too attached to him. It was an attempt at getting rid of all light in him so he could become like Vader, because that’s what he had been made to believe he should be by Snoke (and in a way also the suspicions of his family about the darkness in him). That’s what it means to be a dark sider/Sith. In Star Wars your emotions connect you to either the light or dark side. His feelings for his father were in the way of unlocking his full potential on the dark side. So Snoke instructed him to kill his father telling him the conflict inside would go away. He would be able to commit to the pain and anger inside him with no distractions. But it didn’t work. Kylo only grew more conflicted as Snoke says.
Anakin wasn’t just powerful as a Sith because of his midichlorian count. He was powerful because he was in such emotional and physical pain, it made his connection to the dark side incredibly strong.
Asoka sliced the right side of his helmet, and Obi Wan his left! Luke gets the last honour to take it off completely in ROTJ! Amazing story arch! Brilliantly written episode!
Yes, the star destroyer magically disappeared...
The duel was the highlight of the whole series but as usual, Disney Fd up.
Ok we get it. This has been posted many times.
Stop posting this comment !! Lol i see it everywhere
@@ferdinand2365 some people may not have realized this.... just because you and I understand it doesn't mean all the other star wars fans have thought about it
Brilliantly written? This whole series was some of the poorest lazy writing ever written. Plus this series breaks Cannon. Kathleen Kennedy is continuing her attempts to destroy what George Lucas created. No respect at all for what came before. It is truly amazing to see.
I believe Obi Wan's apology was what kept Anakin alive...he kept fighting to come to the surface....and through the love of his son,he was able to break through for good...
Maybe Anakin was always destined to join the dark side because of his nature and also the need for balance in the Force and all that, but it’s still so tragic that he didn’t get more love and validation. 🥺 He was always treated poorly by the Jedi Council and so he sought acceptance from the wrong people. Acceptance is a basic human need.
Так. Саме про це весь фільм Лукаса. Як сказав Йода він обраний, але передбачення невірно були розшифровані. Палпатін був занадто могутній і перемогти його міг лише той кому він довіряв і підпускав до себе. Щоб його перемогти, всі джедаї були принесені в жертву, але найбільшу жертву приніс Енакін адже він страждав усе своє життя для того щоб одного разу таки вбити Палпатіна. Його унікальність була в його ємоціоності, він міг як кохати несамовито так і ненавидіти, ці дві емоції його рунували в середині усе життя, катували його, він як мучіник. Енакін це най-най трагічніший супер- герой та антигерой одночасно, з усіх існуючих. Йому не можливо не співчувати.
@@user-jp3fm6md6treally well written
It was Anakin Skywalker speaking when he takes responsibility for turning to the Dark Side. That was an act of kindness to his former master.
and it was that act of kindness that Obi wan needed to hear. for 10 years he blamed himself thinking that he killed his own brother back on Mustafar. but the opposite was true.
No that was stabbing Kenobi and twisting the knife. Anakin wasn’t there at all in that scene
This blew my mind. I interpreted this as Vader trying to let Obi know that it's not his fault things happened this way. I think Vader knows that Obi blames himself and that small good part of him wanted to let him Obi know that he doesn't blame Obi personally.
Vader knows he did this to himself. He projects his hate outward but really all that hate is directed at himself and the emperor.
Also, on the love and respect thing it's so true. That's why Qui-Gon would have been better for him, Qui-Gon would listen to how he feels and help him work through it.
I really agree. Qui gon was gentle but convicted and understood there is an ebb and flow to emotions and controlling them. However, Obi-Wan was more of a factual and literal follower of the jedi beliefs. He was more authoritarian with it and never focused on helping Anakin sort his feelings. Obi Wan was very convicted and extremely devout and he expected Anakin to be exactly the same be ause he blindly believed Anakin was the chosen one there was no way Anakin could ever be bad. It was a massive mistake and Obi-Wan had to eventually realize it. We know he realizes it and grows to be a better man and Jedi with the he handles Luke In the future. Amazingly written.
@@matthewbarrios1028 and then Disney came and fucked everything up 😕 completely ruined Luke 😞
I would've lost my shit if qui qon tried to talk to anakin... that end scene would've been more awesome
No it was just pure hatred, evil and a mocking tone. I don’t know why people think otherwise
@@CaptainRockoBD they sort of redeemed him in the mandalorian and the book of boba fett
I love that Anakin actually took the time to hear him, felt his words, and in his own twisted way owned up to all that he'd done. It's the one meager piece of comfort he could offer.
I love how Obi thought he could get through to Anakin after he sliced his mask..seeing his face and realizing all hope of bringing him back was gone and you can see Obi's heart break..and then refer to him as Vader..that sh*t was powerful
The only thing keeping Vader alive is the hope to see his wife again
Anakin was never dead, Vader was just the broken remains of an hero that lost everything, attached to a vision that he himself didn’t even care for.
Absolutely the best scene of star wars since a long time. Still gives me goosebumbs every time.
I totally agree. When I saw that the first time it gave me chills
And when he said “then my friend is truly dead and walked away … amazing 🤧🤧🤧
Best thing to happen SW related since the prequels
I just love this scene SO MUCH. When Luke finally reaches out to Anakin in ROTJ with love and compassion, not judgement or hatred, with the exact same love from a son that Anakin so desperately wanted from Qui Gon or Obi Wan and the other Jedi, THEN it’s Anakin Skywalker NOT Darth Vader who throws the evil, ugly, manipulative Sidious to his death down that Death Star chasm like he deserves, and finishes his destiny with the force and brings balance. Darth Vader was a means to an end for the Force (symbolizing when Luke burns Vaders damaged body that only brought pain and discomfort to Anakin) but Anakin lives on forever as we see him appear to his son next to Yoda and Obi Wan at the end of ROTJ.
In my own cannon, Anakin brought balance to the force and killed the emperor. Not Rey who isn’t even a Skywalker but an offspring of Palpatine? I don’t hate Rey as a character or Poe, the others I don’t care for, but it’s because of the lack of love for the source material and Star Wars in general the writing of the sequels was a tragedy and malpractice by Abrams and Johnson. Just lack of love and respect and only personal or corporate agenda. The new sequels just depress me how badly they were handled.
But this scene has returned a love once forgotten, just like how Anakin was reminded of his love for Luke, Obi Wan, and Padme. Truly the heart and love of Star Wars is in this scene.
I mean not shit he brought balance to the force, he is the chosen one
It was Luke in TLJ that upset me the most about the sequels. Having a hero fail and regress is not what is bad, but that he failed at exactly what made him win in RotJ - having hope that he could find the good in someone that fell to the Dark Side. That Luke was RIGHT about his father and that it was his compassion for his father that turned him back to the Light to kill the Emperor should have left Luke even more certain that he could do the same for his nephew. It is just not even plausible to me that Luke would have had such strong doubts that he could and that killing Ben was the only answer, even for an instant.
I have to say that I also didn't like Luke agreeing with Ashoka that Grogu needed to follow the old Jedi ways of not having attachments in The Book of Boba Fett. The whole attachments = bad was a major factor in Anakin's downfall, as he the Jedi Code and philosophy made him think that his feelings for Padme were wrong and needed to be hidden, leading him to be unable to share his visions and fears with Yoda or Obi-wan. They might have found a better way to counsel him than Yoda simply telling him to let go of what his afraid to lose. They may have even figured out the problems with that philosophy itself and learned from Qui-gon's force ghost. Notice that the whole attachments = bad thing wasn't even part of Yoda's teaching Luke. He did teach him not to give into anger and aggression, which is good, and he did say that Luke should stay and complete the training rather than try and save Han and Leia (but not because he needed to let go of his attachment to them, but to think of the bigger picture that he wasn't ready to face Vader - that's not quite the same extent of what Yoda told Anakin).
I think that the real prophecy of the Chosen One and bringing balance to the Force was not that he would destroy the Sith, but show that it wasn't necessary for the Jedi to isolate themselves from others in order to avoid the Dark Side. That a balance could be maintained with each individual between their passions and what is good and just. At least, that is the direction I wish that they had gone with the post Return of the Jedi story.
(And wtf is with having Mando and Grogu be such a strong focus in a series about BOBA FETT?!?! They should have left Grogu out of Boba Fett enitirely and saved that whole storyline for Mando Season 3)
If you watch George Lucas interviews it is an akin who was always the one who brought balance. Because of that very reason.
"Sidious to his death down that Death Star chasm like he deserves, and finishes his destiny with the force and brings balance" and then undone and ruined by JJ
Perfectly put! I love your choice if words, and feel the same way. Thank you!
Saw this scene 10 times, still i don't notice any tears lol
Clickbait lies.
Yeah definitely no tears
Finally a real fucking person😂 thank you absolutely no tears
Y'all are blind, it's a single tear that goes down & then he snaps back to Darth Vader.
@@michaelchristopher9805 Darth Vader couldn't cry
Obi-wan told that: He couldn't be able to kill Anakin, he is his brother. Obi-wan never could kill Anakin and he believed that Anakin is there. Behind Vader's mask.
This last episode had me crying. So much emotion, past pain, some reconciliation. It all came to a climax, and i cried
I feel that so much too
Holy... get a grip.
This should cement Hayden Christensen as a great Anakin Skywalker regardless of his hatred that he received from the prequels it wasn't him that chose to act that way in the prequels it was a script and George Lucas's direction. I've always loved his Anakin Skywalker. I thought he always brought a pretty good dynamic to the character and just this little scene alone with the broken mask the acting from Hayden was superb. This is also the reason why Vader lost he was conflicted just like he was conflicted against ahsoka every time he goes up against somebody he loves from his past. He never goes all out. This is evident during The final duel in the finale the way Vader is swinging his lightsaber and charging towards Obi-Wan grunting also the fact that he let Obi-Wan beat the crap out of his control panel and didn't do nothing about it come on man Vader would never let that happen if he wasn't conflicted as such. Besides the plot leading up to a new hope that's why Vader didn't win because they have to meet again plus it would break in and if Vader died because he's in the original trilogy. I mean it's clear that Vader was conflicted pretty much the entire fight how he was fighting and everything like that I mean you could say it's due to the suit and his cybernetics and all that stuff yes Vader never retained Anakin's agility but he was far from a clunky ass robot like he was in the original Canon in this new Cannon he's an absolute powerhouse and close to being unparalleled in the force. Now if Obi-Wan would have mentioned Padme during their little conversation there I'm pretty sure Vader would have got a second wind kind of like Obi-Wan did when he thought about the children when he was buried under the rocks and we would have got comic book accurate going on Obi-Wan's ass.
Nope, it wasn't Lucas, it was Christensen. He was an awful actor. But everything changes and he learned some things now, he's a million times better.
But back then? Nah, the cringe was all Christensen.
@@abnnizzy George Lucas was the writer, director, and executive producer of the prequels. As such, he’s responsible for everything about them, good and bad. He had casting veto, he wrote the lines, he determined how the actors delivered them, he made decisions about effects and editing with override power over the crew responsible for those departments.
@@abnnizzy Look what he did to Natalie Portman....
@@abnnizzy nobody could make his lives sound good man. You’re a hater
George Lucas sees actors as props... thats part of why he was removed as director for ESB and ROTJ. Sadly his prequels were just a big AD for ILM and the eventual sale of the franchise and his contempt for his characters shows. Even now he still believes He is a Kubrickian artist and nobody else can touch him. Whoever made this had a real bit of love (I know he had a finger in the pie here to but it wasn't as under his control as those gawd awful prequels)
I think obi wan can sense the big portion of anakin there, so when Vader says anakin is dead obi wan realizes he isn’t ready to admit it yet but allows him to live to have another chance in the future to turn back to the light which as we know, is exactly what happens.
Big fan of how the fight is one big symbol of his redemption. Kenobi broke the right side, Ashoka the left, Luke removed the helmet.
Ashoka broke the same side as onion-wan did.
@@zerohunter01 The didn't brake the same side. Though, it is the opposite; Ashoka broke the right side, and Kenobi the left.
@@zerohunter01 no.
@@zerohunter01 Uh, you better go watch Rebels again. Lol
I LOVED how Palpatine said "You seem agitated, my friend". He knew why Vader was agitated. He knows they're not friends. Yet he fucking rubs it in his face anyways, because wtf is Vader gonna do about it
And to top it off he kinda threatened him
And the thing is, at any time Vader could’ve ended Sidious. Vader is stronger both physically and in the force, but his master/ slave trauma bond and his conflicting emotions always hold him back. He’s a broken man.
@@Super-Earths-Ministry-of-truth Vader is physically stronger but not stronger in the force, he has the potential to be stronger than him but Sidious purposely keeps him weaker then himself because he has no intention of being killed by Vader, which is why he made Vaders suit susceptible to force lightning that way if Vader did ever turn on him he could kill him
@@devinsymborski5764 In no way did you dispute that he is weaker in the force, all you said is that his suit makes him weaker. I’d argue his suit makes him stronger because it fuels his hatred, but okay. Anyways, even with Vaders skill sealing lowered he is stronger than Sidious in the force.
@@Super-Earths-Ministry-of-truth Vader isn't the stronger it's been stated by George Lucas and many other books and comics that Sidious is the most powerful sith to ever live. Vader had the potential to be the strongest but isn't. Palpatine purposely kept Vader weaker than him.
This touches my heart differently. Maybe it's because it's 2:30 am and I'm pretty tired and emotional. Maybe it's the sad music. But I'm in the process of becoming a kindergarten teacher and throughout my interactions with many people including internet friends a decade younger than me who I'm a big brother to and looking back at class mates from elementary school I realized that it's so important to praise people. This affirmation is so important. I also realized that having a father figure is really important, especially for modern women these days but also for young men.
I can also relate to Vader so much. I'm lucky enough to always have had the backing of my family, even when I lied to them and caused them grief and suffering through my selfish and self harming behavior. But sometimes you are so deep into the shit that you feel like there is no way out of it. That it's too late to go back. I was proven wrong every time so far. And if you can learn one thing from a stupid made up fictional space wizard story, it's that it's never too late to turn around and redeem yourself. If Darth Vader did that shit, so can you.
I doubt that this will reach many people because this will be the 2204th comment under the video but life has his unexplainable ways so maybe it will reach the right person who needed to hear it.
This scene made me cry. I haven’t been so affected by a scene in a very, very long time. The pain on his face as Vader wrestles for control, to push Anakin back down. To bury the excruciating agony he can’t escape from. The twitches; the sneer that surfaces and eventually takes over. Honestly the acting from Hayden was just incredible. The emotional pain of Anakin’s fall to darkness and continued suffering as Vader is hard to see for me, especially if I allow myself to truly emphasise and see and feel his agony. I don’t normally comment on CZcams, but felt the need to get this out. I’m sure I’m not the only one who found it hard. I’m a long way healed, but man seeing such suffering is like seeing a ghost. Feels like a release in a strange sort of way. I just want to wrap my arms around him.
I totally agree.... In that moment when you see the blue hue of the lightsaber in Darth Vader's broken mask I clearly I got the interpretation that was Anakin telling Obi-Wan is not his fault as well and then when the red hue comes back it is ALL Vader speaking.
BRILLIANT WRITING & ACTING😱👏👏👏👏👏👏
What? The lightsabers glow and light things up. And surprise... Blue lightsabers make things blue and red make things red. 🙄
@@glasshalfempty1984Smh....😔😔😔 watch it again. If you don't see it ...then it is what it is. 😔
@@glasshalfempty1984 don't be a jerk dude.
@@matthewbarrios1028 Thank You FAM👊
@@glasshalfempty1984 the timing with the colors to the acting and writing was for a reason. its obvious when it changes from blue to red with the smirk and what he says.
During the duel with his former master, there was a war going on inside Vader,..it was Vader vs Anakin, the war was so great that it hindered Vaders strength in the duel, however at the end..Vader won..Obi-Wan prevailed in the duel,yet Vader won Anakins soul..until Luke.
Anakin taking responsibility for his own downfall was a powerful moment. The acting in that scene between Obiwan and Anakin/Vader is some of the best Star Wars. The anguish of Anakin and the hurt in Obiwans eyes as he apologizes to his brother is poignant and deep.
I think why Anakin shed a tear in that moment was because he felt piece in his heart or at least a little bit more piece hearing obi Wan completely blames himself for everything that’s happened. Anakin needed that closure just as Obi Wan needed it. And I truly believe the tear was also for seeing his former master his older brother, the man who he looked up to and admired the most and respected was torturing himself for and not doing well because he blames himself for his downfall. I think Anakin’s saying I love you master and forgive you was exactly this “this is all on me, let go and be the Jedi that I know you can be and will be and save this galaxy” he’s just wording differently cause he wants to convince obi wan that he still hates him when deep down he loves him still. Such a powerful scene!
Very well done scene. I couldn’t help but get emotional over what Anakin has done to himself and Obi-wan’s guilt.
Unless a writer/director/actor says otherwise I’m starting to feel of the opinion that much more of Anakin was coming through to the surface. not only that but he wanted Obiwan to kill him. Vader beaten and weak is the only reason even this much of Anakin can even surface at all. Also Unlike during their duel in RotS, Anakin is being honest with Obiwan. Not trying to blame anyone else.
And when Obiwan leaves without killing him, it’s like being abandoned again to be consumed once more. Now Vader keeps a tighter hold. Taking over even faster in Rebels w/ Ashoka.
Isn't there a comic where Anakin/Vader either imagines or dreams that he finds Obi Wan and begs for forgiveness? I think there's a video on CZcams but I saw it at least a year ago...I think in that comic he expresses that he somewhere has that desire that Obi Wan kills him for his sins
You’re completely wrong but ok
I thought the same thing, it's also pointed that Anakin realise that He become lesser version of himself, 'Vader is what remains'.
It was not a triumph, he lost his wife, killed innocent, millions, servers weak Lord due to his now shortcomings, he never reached his potential.
He cannot undo what He done and is just in pain over what He become and He knows that Obi Wan wanted best for Him.
Unlike in ROTS, Anakin does not blame anyone, He just hates himself, but to Him there is no going back.
He does not have anything to go back to and just wants to die fighting, because there is no atoning for what he has done.
Why Anakin, because the tear and the blue color shining on his face meant to symbolize that it's Anakin who is speaking.
Deep down Anakin has regrets but knows it’s too late to turn back now
It’s never to late as long as you’re alive
that’s why he deluded himself in believing anakin did nothing wrong, that it was all vader. talk about living in denial. haha
understandable though, when you experience so much pain it’s easy to wanna be someone else.
@@trapkidd39 the younglings would beg to differ. Lol!
Star Wars Theory has delved into some of the comics and pointed out that Vader has essentially 'entombed' Anakin deep within.
@@trapkidd39 that’s easier said than done. Anakin was now disfigured and felt he was too deep into it as he destroyed they Jedi and the galaxy so had to double down
I did not notice this until you pointed it out. So much detail and awesomeness!
These were my thoughts exactly on what was happening during their brief conversation! love the video as always!
Force Tears
I believe the apology by Kenobi was heartfelt & something that was as much for himself as it was for Anakin.
Ultimately I also believe the largest slice of blame pie for the turnover to Vader goes to Master Yoda. ... He knew his students through & through and was the one who assigned Kenobi as Anakin's master & never changed it as Anakin grew more powerful. ... Yoda should have either known from the start Kenobi wasn't the right fit for Anakin or figured it out with time and intervened.
Yoda was also the one who ordered Kenobi to stop Vader after order 66 & never mentioned a thing about attempting to turn him back to the light.
Everything trickles from the top on down. The Jedi order is certainly no exception.
Was a wonderful show & an excellent overall storyline 🙏👍😃. ... Enhances everything.
- Thanks as always for the upload, kind sir
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as someone who doesnt know much outside the movies, aside from qui gon, which jedi could have been the perfect master/father figure to anakin?
@@saeres9288 Excellent question. ... Probably best answered by the channel owner.
I know a little more than just the movies/big shows, but definitely don't know all of the in's & outs of the various Jedi personalities. .... LoL, Yoda sure enough did though.
Nevertheless, I'll go ahead and throw out, Ki-Adi-Mundi
I like your statement about yoda ordering vaders assassination. You’re right he never even mentioned the thought of him being brought back. This the problem with the Jedi during this time. Once anakin had turned they automatically felt that he couldn’t be turned back. He had to be destroyed. But “Only a sith deals in absolutes.” Right?
@@nocapstreet8291 indeed & agreed 💯
Forgiveness is typically for ones self, but I fully agree with your statement. And that Yoda was too harsh and unfeeling, he clearly was humbled by the fall of the Jedi and his seclusion on Dagobah
I cried at this moment in the show.
I saw a new hope for the first time when I was 5 years old, seeing this interaction between the two of them 25 years later was so incredibly heavy with emotions for me.
It made one of my greatest loves ( Starwars) feel more complete.
Same feeling I got. I was 7 years old at the time..
@@samanthafox3124 Hey, you stole a English former honeys name . Lol
Very good video. I saw the first Star Wars with my dad as a child in a Paris theater more than 40 years ago and i never forget the overwhelming emotions i felt that day. Many things are blurred in my mind from such a distant past but not that happiness, excitement i felt with my father when the movie was on the huge screen. I’m still a Star Wars fan. There are some things i like less than others but that scene between Vader and Obi Wan was one of the best, very emotional. We can feel the pain of both, the regrets because things could have been different. The 2 of them, the Jedi order made choices that lead to that tragedy as much as Palpatine manipulations.
This was the saddest duel. And now my favorite duel.
It fits with the idea of the lighting. When Vader’s helmet is damaged, each fighter is illuminated by the light of their sabers. Obi-Wan is ALWAYS illuminated by his blue. Vader though starts out red, then for a bit when Anakin is out, his face is lit up by blue, then as Vader returns it goes back to being red but there is still the occasional flicker of blue from Obi-WAN’s lightsaber.
Awesome points... it finally clicked for me. After rewatching the first two prequels, your statement is very true. Qui-Gon was the father figure that Anakin needed, the person who believed in him and his abilities... the one like nurtured him like a parent. Obi-Wan was as you said a big brother, and in some ways a competitor. In attack of the clones you can see Obi-Wan's arrogance and his lack of positive reinforcement. Always mentioning how superior his abilities are, just like some older siblings can behave. I think after their battle in the third prequel Obi-Wan realizes this hence the tearful regret on his face. Truly tragic is the story of this brotherhood.
So well done. One of the best scenes in all of Star Wars.
I don't care what anyone says, love it or hate it that scene hit me right in the force feels...
sometimes i wish the story had been different. Anakin couldve been the best jedi in history. Overcoming his dark side wouldve made him a most wise master for future generations of jedi
Tusken raiders: Sure that sounds great but you see, we think our idea is still better.
@@sexysputnik Anakin: And I took that personally.
I think in season seven of clone wars the showed a glimpse of that
I would love a what if movie
Great video recapping probably one of my favorite scenes is all of Star Wars
Beautifully explained!!!! I loved this scene, one of the best ones yet. 😉
When he said that Anakin just needed love and respect, it hits hard
I don't see the tear..
This was so well written and filmed! The scene when obi-wan first sees Vader and truly looking like a terrified child to this finale!
I don’t see a tear. You make it up as you go along
It works for me and shows how Anakin is in there but being dominated by Vader
This particular scene makes the final duel between Ben and Vader all the more significant,because even had he manage to kill Obi-Wan in Vader's own mind at this moment he'd of still ended up losing this duel to Anakin,this makes Vader's killing of Ben on the first death star all the more significant because to Vader's knowledge that moment would simultaneously be killing Anakin as well
It also makes the duel make more sense on the Death Star. It isn’t a grudge match at that point. It’s just tying up a loose end to Vader. All that hate and rage has cooled significantly by that point and he feels more apathetic to Kenobi than actually hostile. He lamely taunts him and barely strikes. It’s just the end of a sad thing with no triumph for Vader because it didn’t mean anything in the end.
These are great points you are making. I’m glad there is still some decent Star Wars content trickling out of Disney
Nailed it! Love and respect would have turned the tide i believe. Good analysis.
I thought it was amazing, the fight the dialog and everything. I think Vader shed a tear because he knows he can never go back to how things were and his loss has mostly fueled his anger, but for this one fleeting moment, it tapped into this sorrow. Really powerful stuff...And to think, I didn't even want them to make this series lol boy was I wrong
I love when he shout "obi-wan!!!" as obi is walking away. The sound editing is really good.
And that shout felt to me more like a cry for help, as in don't leave me again 😢.. So heart wrenching and absolutely one of the best scenes in decades 💔
Fantastic analysis video - thanks.
Awesome video and great take man!
I thought it had more impact in Rebels. Specially when you followed Clone Wars. But I was really happy to see Hayden Christensen & Ewan Mcgregor together on screen once more. Made me feel like a kid again.
Yes yes yes! I totally agree! This was such an amazing scene and broke my heart. I totally agree that this was Anakin trying to reach out and assuage Obi-Wan's guilt telling him this was his choice. This was so poignant and my favorite scene in Star Wars
It wasn’t…at all. Vader stabbed Kenobi and twisted the knife. Even mocked him for thinking he had anything to do with the death of Anakin
most emotional upload you have ever MADE!
It is impressive that Obi-Wan never gave in to the dark side even though he must have been enraged at Vader for what he hid, sorrowful because of the loss of so many of his comrades and friends as well as devastated by his own inability to guide Anakin when he still had the chance.
I cried so hard during that scene and I’m soooo glad I’m not the only one 🥺 *group hug*
The scenes does mirror what happens later in the timeline when Vader confronts Ashoka on Malachor only no tear is shed however Anakin I believe did reach out briefly when he calls out to her and looks at her before she replies. Vader by this point is the far stronger part or Anakin, his appearance in this moment was like someone briefly waking up before quickly going back to sleep.
Great video man
Genius video bro!!!!!
He wasn't crying, that was literally just the shine of the lightsabers on his face. Obi-Wan was the one who almost shed a tear
Nope, Anakin did shed a tear. If you look just as the camera cuts back to him after Obiwan apologizes, you can see the tear streak underneath his eye as the light from his red lightsaber hits it.
Yeah, that photoshop is trash as well
@@moiseshuerta294 Bro I'm not talking about the pictures in the video. Go watch the actual episode.
@Go 01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 01101111 01100110 01100110 Yeah I'm gonna call BS on that. Sounds more like an excuse to not accept the fact that Vader shed a tear.
He literally did shed a tear tho
I like the idea that “Vader” wouldn’t harbor such a Vendetta against Obiwan, but Anankin would. Meaning he’s still there.
WOW! A standing ovation on this video. This Anakin/ DV/obi/Jedi analysis was very good.
Great analysis.
When it comes to Revenge of the Sith, I think Obi Wan was in denial when it came to witnessing Anakin killing the younglings in the temple. He had not truly processed the fact that his Padawan had turned to the dark side and that it was he and the jedi that was also to blame for not believing in him. He did what he had to do because he had to save what was left of the Jedi. He believed Anakin was dead.
Finding out Anakin/Vader was alive many years later opened up those old wounds. When finally seeing what Anakin had become, Obi Wan never saw Darth Vader the Sith lord, but Anakin his former student and brother. He knew Anakin was held back by the council and that he was the one who crippled him on Mustafar. Obi Wan believed he was the one responsible for completing his transition to the dark side. It wasn't until he finally beat Anakin that some of that guilt was relieved when Anakin told him that Obi Wan didn't fail him and that Anakin chose to kill his former self.
When Obi Wan finally called him "Darth" he was forced to reluctantly accept Anakin's choice. It's hard to say whether he was mad at him or himself. Most likely both. I'm sure we will learn more in season 2.
Yeah the Jedi council made the mistake of holding Anakin back. and I blame that on Windu squarely.
@@gamepad3173 Yoda was also to blame as well. Yoda was more sympathetic than Windu. It wasn't until Anakin found out about Palpatine being a Sith lord and told Windu that Windu started to show more respect to him. Anakin's need for a father figure and desire to "save" Padme was too great.
I just thought his skin was shiny cause of the scarring how did anybody know that was tears?
great analysis
I think you may have missed some of the subtlety in this scene: rewatch it whilst paying particular attention to the light cast by the lightsabers. When we see Anakin face for the first time, it’s illuminated in blue, but the helmet is illuminated in red.
This changes as the scene progresses and initially, there are some areas of Kenobi’s face were red. By the the end of the scene, the glimpse of Anakin is suppressed entirely by Vader, the face coloured only red.
Yes, I love this! My personal take-away from the scene is everything you pointed out.
Anakin is alive, however to survive now he must live as Vader. Anakin knows he did wrong, he is bearing the blood of many in the galaxy on his hands, however he also still stands in a way wronged by everything that failed him. There is so much pride in Anakin still and he wants to have the respect and compassion he was always denied... until he genuinely feels that love he will always hold onto his pride and his ego.
It is that pride which I think ultimately creates and fuels Vader - he is the ultimate, most pure and powerful version of Anakin that lives with no regrets and simply live up to his full potential of power.
Vader is also a safe space for Anakin too - a personality into which he can disassociate from the incredible, huge amount of shame and guilt which is truly bottled up inside of him. So long as he plays the part of the powerful, cold Vader he does not have to live in the daily agony of guilt and regret which truly lives at the core of the still-beating heart of Anakin Skywalker...
I think that's ultimately why it was Luke in the end who saved Anakin, because Luke was both a great source of unconditional love but also a source of incredible pride for Anakin.
As much as Obi-Wan loved Anakin, there's still only so much an apology can do. Yes, Anakin can see that Obi-Wan feels remorse, however he still cannot give him back that which is now gone.
Luke, however, gives Anakin both the things he so deeply wants and needs - Luke's call to Anakin back to the light is someone showing him love and compassion that he needed (and did seem to finally get from Obi-Wan), however he also gave him something Obi-Wan could never give him.... that being some genuine pride.
For all Anakin was told that to love was wrong for the Jedi Order, in the end he knew deep down it wasn't wrong and he followed his heart in loving Padme. So when he finally sees his son and the great man he has become, that completely vindicates him and makes him finally see that yes he may have done awful things... but his love for Padme and the family and children that came from it were truly never wrong. It was always natural, right and human. And to that end, he was finally proven right...
It's that final realisation which I think ultimately fills him with the immense love and, more importantly, the immense pride he needed to feel in order for him to finally let go of his need for Vader.
Pride can be found in power, but it also can be found in our achievements. Luke was a complete representation of that - it showed him his love for Padme was always right. Through it they bore two incredible children that grew into incredible, good, brave people.
That final realisation and incredible PRIDE in the most important good deed of his life, of having brought a great human being into the world - someone who was as heroic and noble, if not a million times more than him, and who also forgave him - something he cannot do for himself - that was the main source of pride that he truly needed in order for him to finally let go and return to the light...
Amazing
In the end, Anakin chose his path to the Dark Side. True he was corrupted by Palpatine and the Jedi Order, a collection of "Space Monks", were not sensitive to Anakin's human needs. Anakin didn't confide in Obi-Wan about his problems and doubts keeping everything to himself. Also, he must have suspected that Palpatine wasn't quite right but he just continued down the path of destruction until he thought he was too far to turn back...and then it was.
He actually did try to confide in obi wan before he left. Looking for reassurance before he left to go to fight Grevious. Even asking to go with him, since he was going through a rough time after killing Dooku. Instead obi-wan basically said you’re good stay here and ignored his cry for help. Also mentioning he didn’t want to spy on palpatine due to him being the head of the republic and the Jedi always saying they serve that body. Which Obi-wan says it’s not right but do it anyway.
Anakin confided in alot of people it’s just explained better in the episode 3 book than the movie. Him saying “I’m not the Jedi I should be” was about killing dooku. He told yoda he was afraid to lose someone and yoda basically told him get over it on accident.
Then he told Mace to not kill palpatine not only to save padme but also because they had ridiculed him heavily for killing count even though obi wan killed maul. To him this showed that the thing he agonized was ok if the council did it and he knew it was wrong. However at this point he felt he couldn’t go back. He did the right thing by stopping the murder of palpatine trying to rectify his wrong, but lost mace in the process. Something he could never fix sending him deeper into self destruction.
The real issue is that palpatine was the only one who listened to him. His hurt behind killing count , not being a good enough Jedi ,and padme .
The overall problem with the Jedi was they didn’t try anakin, but wanted him to save them. Teach him things to and reprimand him causing him turmoil only to do it themselves confusing him further. I agree it was Anakins choice, but the Jedi sure didn’t help him as a whole in the way they should have.
One could say though in the end anakin chose the light when he through the emperor over the ledge in rotj.
@@ryans.4715 Yes, in the end, his love for his son let the light, hidden deep inside Anakin, out. A bad day for Sidious but Disney brought him back...A bad day for Star Wars fans.
@@X00000370 yeah tell me about it. The sequels are so so bad
It was a mix of his fault and others. He turned really to get the power to save Padme but he was also liking the power the dark side was giving him.
Beautifully said and explained
In my opinion, there is no other scenario which hits so hard like this in a franchise
This scene was incredible
You finally said it. The attachment is a weakness that Jedi try to remove from themselves. Obi wan can not give Anakin what he's crying for. He lost his mother, his lover, but his new Jedi family (dysfunctional) couldn't give him that sense of belonging. Sith gave him that, so he naturally belonged to them.
The sith didn't give Anakin a sense of belonging, Darth Sidious manipulated him to that end.
In season 2 they should have a scene where Vader is in his Bacta Tank and Anakin is trying to take over in his head and they show it happening in a dreamlike sequence with Anakin and Vader dueling each other and Vader wins.
There is no season 2
@@conboy66 There will be season 2, Disney wants more money
@@conboy66 they have said there could well be a season2
@@gavomorg762 this don't need a season 2. Leave it how it is end on a good note
Theyve called It a 6 part limited series. Sounds like no season 2 to me lol
Well said 👏 👌
I watched the new Obi Wan vs. Darth Vader/Anakin fight and their ending conversation now probably an unhealthy amount of times. As a 27 year old i find it intriguing that Star Wars and the emotional character development still reaches out to me. My love for this franchise is truly undying. I felt like the last episode gave me closure to a story i always thought had some gaps to fill
Anakin never left, it’s just he made some bad decisions, that led to him becoming Vader, and he feels unredeemable. His character arc is incredible, as we all know, eventually, he’ll rise above his past.
In a psychology, in severe trauma event, escape is unavoidable. Anakin did the unspeakable, killed his teachers, children, everyone that benefit a kill. He had to escape into the darkness of Darth to avoid his conscience of Anakin. He believed in Darth was something he could create. But they are both always just the one of the being of Anakin. He smiled when he thought the escape was succesfull. Since he cant escape his own being, there are nothing else in him except his escape. He called his son as his Farther, which is Anakin. His own illusion fell apart in the end.
* cried
It also vindicated EVERYTHING Anakin had been saying about the jedi holding him back, keeping secrets and fearing him.
It was one of the most heartbreaking moments. After watching all the movies and the Clone Wars series, the moment when Obi-Wan apologized, I kind of lost it. Anakin is my hero, he held on as long as he could. He was used by both sides, and the only time he was happy was with Padme'. The Jedi was the worst thing for him.
Thank you for the great video but I would like to add one thing.
Maybe it's too much interpretation from a few lines but I think Anakin came back one last time when Obi-Wan left. The first time he shouts "Obi-Wan" it's clearly Anakin's voice and sounds like he's nearly crying because his former master and old friend Obi-Wan leaves him there in pain once again. The second time he shouts it, it is Vader with pure hatred and anger giving me the shivers.
I think the first time it's almost like anakin begs for obi wan to finish him to finally end his suffering. And the second one is vader cursing him for not doing it.
@@florianbarkowski6856 Very interesting analysis and plausible as well 👍🏼
I didn't even notice any tears. I was more focused on the beautiful performance by Hayden.
I have watched the scene repeatedly, and, I don’t see any tears, either…neither of them “shed” tears that roll down their cheeks. There’s no obvious “crying” as stated in the the video title.
Knowing the fact that Anakin shed a tear at this state in the final episode of the Kenobi show was one of those moments that when someone has consumed Anakin for what may seem to be almost a lifetime like this with a huge black cloud of darkness, there was still a small glance that Anakin was wanting to be forgiven for almost everything that he has done throughout the time of the galaxy to witness (such as the fall of the Republic, the death of Liberty and the Great Jedi Purge). This may be my personal opinion on why he shed that tear, but Anakin was wanting to live a very great life of his own with his fellow Jedi friends as a peacekeeper in the galaxy until everything went downhill when the Dark Lord of the Sith rose up for revenge, causing the Clones to be ordered on executing Order 66 and killing the Jedi members in cold blood to which later made the Chosen One fall into the hands of Darth Sidious and dubbed to be named Darth Vader... then again, the Chosen One was wanting to protect Padmé from the nightmares that Anakin himself was experiencing since he was wanting to do something that was believed to be right.
However when Vader choked Padmé, Anakin that was dwelling inside of the Sith Lord that's outside of the fallen Chosen One started to feel deep regret for what he has done for siding with the Dark Side and killing his own friends. And when Anakin shed that tear on Mustafar while looking back on what he has done, the conflict between Anakin and Vader was one of deep somber and suffering that Anakin himself felt cold and alone as Vader was now in full control over the Chosen One.
Moments like when Anakin heard Obi-Wan apologizing to him for all of the things that has happened before/during/after the Jedi Purge in the Star Wars universe is something so emotional and tragic that it makes me (and maybe all of you people) cry on the inside.
Kudos on making this video and may the Force be with you... and to us all. 💙
He forced growled and it was awesome ! 👏
They really tried to put each other away
Because of the pain
And that aspect of the fight was awesome 👏👏👏👏🌟
THANK YOU! It always amazes, surprises, and frustrates me how LITTLE obi wan did to try to reason with Anakin on mustafar! In fact, same thing with this new fight! I 100% absolutely believe that he(both times), and Ashoka could have POTENTIALLY brought him back, but at LEAST made him accept that he’s still Anakin skywalker, and that he does still have good in him, and all he has to do is chose to! Every encounter with his previous loved ones is basically like “r u still bad? R u SURE? Ok, screw u!”, but none of them actually tried to reason with him, more than just a sentence or 2 by obi wan on mustafar (WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too little!). With Ashoka and this second obi wan meeting, they literally mention his name, and he says I’m not Anakin anymore, and then she attacks/he walks away! It’s absolutely infuriating how unbelievably insignificant their attempts(if u can even call those “attempts”)to reach him r! I honestly would b VERY surprised if Vader didn’t become MORE hateful, and feel MORE betrayed by his “friends” after those (especially the 2nd and 3rd) meetings, due to the seeming lack of effort they put in! They put WAY more effort into trying to just kill him and end it, than to reach Anakin and try to help him! That’s bad enough as it is, but in both of those cases he actually showed signs of conflict, where u could say Anakin briefly shone thru, which makes it that much worse that they even had an opening....vader had a chink in his emotional armor, but they just gave up! Very....VERY irritatingly annoying and disappointing!
Well considering how this leads into a 40 year old established narrative. No Vader was never going to turn lol. It always plays out the same
I agree with your assessment it frustrates me as well especially this last fight. This last fight Anakin was basically begging Obi-Wan to try to bring him back to the light
Luke was the only one that was able to use emotional negotiation to get to Anakin. You're right that Obi-Wan amd Ahsoka didn't do enough. But they also saw the atrocities he committed. Luke never knew him and wasn't fully awake of the cruelty. He only knew he could feel his father still in there and made it his mission to bring him out and "save him". He committed to that tactic where Ahsoka and Obi-Wan were never sure of how to handle it because their emotions were to close to the pain.