Elden Ring Lore Explained!
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2022
- Arise ye Tarnished and watch this video if you wish to understand the lore of the world you are inhabiting!
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The way you puzzled it together, then turned it into a small cinematic, masterpiece brother. You explained the lore when I had not a clue what was happening. Appreciate you bro
Thanks dude, that means a bunch! =)
For real I needed this video so badly LOL
@@hadokenexe Same, so thankful how well he put it all together.
@@TheAshenHollow Seriously, this pieces together the story so well... This video is a must watch for anyone playing the game.
@@TheAshenHollow you help me too, I was totally lost before.
Here's something you may not have noticed. You know how the Trolls (smaller, enslaved giants) seem to be missing a portion of their abdomen? Well, the face on the Fire Giants' abdomens is used to communicate with their Outer God. The Trolls were originally literally just smaller giants, but during the war they allied with Godfrey's side. So they either removed their own torso faces, to server their connection with the God, as a sort of white flag towards Godfrey's side, or Marika removed it from them, to ensure they couldn't betray the Greater Will either.
That is a very good observation... But also a brutal idea if true. I just thought that Trolls may've devolved to a point that they lost such vital features.
@@cw.k1532 devolved? nice thought...
@@cw.k1532 Marika is pretty brutal so I wouldn't hold it against her. She's like Cersei Lannister. GRRM...
Mind blown
Great contribution
The characters with similar names are great to imply relation and most likely Martin's ide, but for a while i have difficulty remembering which one is godfrey, godrick, godwyn. Or melina, milenia, miquella, marika
To many m's lol
Don’t forget Radahn, Radagon, Ranni, Rennalla and Rykard
You're not alone there, lmao!
G R R M, all names start with Martin's intials
While playing this game I always look to my roomie and read lore in my GRRM voice that I think he had a direct say in lol
This is the third or fourth "The Lore of Elden Ring Explained!" video I've watched in the past few hours, and this is definitely the best one. The way you present the lore in a clear, articulate, (I'm pretty sure) chronological, and cinematic way is incredibly well done. I also greatly appreciate that you cited your sources in the bottom left corner of the video so it is immediately clear from where your information is coming! Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Finally a lore video that's not overly complicated or unnecessarily detailed - and most importantly in chronological order! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! =]
Because Marika and Radagon are of the same person, same genes, the children they sired had seemingly genetic disorders.
Amazing detail if I might say.
HOLY SHIT i didn't think of it that way, but that really explains all their health issues if true!
it really is some George RR Martin shit
I would not be surprised if that part came from George RR Martin. When you deep dive into his books you can tell that he takes a lot of time to consider the genetics of family trees. There's underlying themes of bloodlines becoming weaker over many generations of breeding within a small gene pool.
It's far more likely their children had disorders because they were cursed by other Outer Gods.
Not quite. Both Marika and Ranii were Empiryans, and had no genetic disorders and Mogh and Morgot where born of Godfray and were cursed with omen. There is no visible pattern here, or maybe pattern exist but Firstborns are the one healthy and the rest are sick.
Rykard as a firstborn of Renalla and Marika would be healthy
Godwyn as a Firstborn of Godfrey qnd Marika is healthy
Ranni as a firstborn of Marika and Marika is healthy
Than Mogh and Margot where cursed with omen
Radahn were curse with monstrous size
Miquella were cursed by eternal youth
Malenia were cursed by Rot
I still haven’t finished the game, but this gave me a good picture and overall idea of the whole story of Elden Ring! It’s well made and just amazingly told story! Thank you for this
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching! =)
Unlike the game. Lol
I think it's better to play the game as much as possible before watching this, but I can understand why you didn't finish it. I didn't either.
@@das.gegenmittel seriously. I love these games but they need to cut the cryptic bs and just give us a story we can follow.
@@x0vg5hs1 same. Having the story fleshed out for me in FromSoft games makes me enjoy them more. I just wish FromSoft did it themselves. I’d like to see more cutscenes from them and more story from them in a more traditional manner
For a series that is known for being ambiguous in it's story telling, Elden Ring is definitely special. Anyone else obsessed?
I really appreciate adding the source items to the lore
8:55 I believe that since we know the Elden Beast is from space and represents the Greater Will in a sense, it's a neat and plausible theory that the Greater Will is just an alien "god" / parasite that wishes to rule/subjugate humanity, and when Godrey had defeated his last foe, the Greater Will had no need for him and his army, yes? That makes sense to me. This game seems like a beautiful mix of all of From's game's lore genres, and I LOVE it.
Isn't that similar to what happens to humanity with kos
After Bloodborne, I don’t doubt it! Moon Presence CONFIRMED!
yes, also not only the Greater Will, but a whole cast of Outer Gods are fighting their proxy war to take over humanity/our planet. Cue: The Formless Mother, the Flame of Frenzies, etc.
Yes. Not sure about the other Outer Gods, but the Greater Will is certainly alien. It was the Greater Will that sent the meteorite with Astel down to Nokron, to punish them (possibly for using the Mimic Tears to create a fake god). Astel is the Naturalborn of the Void, aka, the Natural Born of the Greater Will.
@@highlightermarca-texto3281 nah, the Greater Will is at war with the Outer God of Eldrich magic aka glintstone magic. Astel to glintstone outer god is what the Elden Beast is to the Greater Will. The glintstone/stars outer god just works in way human cannot comprehence, while the Greater Will atleast is benevolent on the surface. (cue: Selen's questline show what you get once you get close to the glintstone/stars Outer God. This also explain the proxy war between Carians and Queen Marika)
Oh my god your work in this video is just legendary!
Thanks a bunch dude! =D
I think theres more appropiate way of saying omg than like that
@@giovannicorraliza8552 wrong
@@TheAshenHollow u help a ton of people with ur work my guy. Glad that ur uploading again :)
Huge props to the production value of this video. The whole thing was narrated and edited in a very entertaining yet informative way
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! 😃
Absolutely love how you pieced this all together and included the source for every statement you made!
Amazing you packed all that in 20 minutes and it never felt rushed or too dense. Masterful stuff.
i absolutely love how you put your sources in the corner! really love your dedication to detail and to analyze the lore for us :) thank you
Man the absolute freedom of this game even extends to the lore with you being able to reshape the world the way you want.
I love this game.
It's insane how much more ruthless Ranni seems after learning all she did to enact her plan. Even though her ending seems on the surface to be the best for the realm. Her means to achieve this end seem barbaric
i doubt she could have predicted that all the demigods would end up being incompetent and stuck in a stalemate. Good thing we came along
@@haiperbus maybe she didn't but it does seem like she's been plotting and scheming this for a long time, and given the vast amount of knowledge the carian library could offer her, it isn't implausible she'd of known. Either way she killed one of her own kind to Kickstart what basically amounts to the apocalypse for the lands between to satisfy her own hatred of the two fingers and of Marika
she warns you like 3 times about the future she wants because it's going to be really cold, dark and lonely. and when you put a ring on her she said she was surprised and perhaps she didn't need to warn the player after all.
my sources for what that ending means is speculated. outside of dialogs and items, I like to relate what happened to sellene when she ascended closer to the cosmo and location where her ending took place.
it's insane to me that most people don't remembers or even hears her warnings because the red flags felt pretty in my face by the second warning. i can understand simp culture but shes a fleshless doll, speaks in annoying riddles and not even busty.
my take is that her ending is the worst one and I'm surprised that no one considers or cares about her warnings, or question why the player are the only one that survived the black knifes assassinations of all her subjects after her goal is reached, even tho the game already said she was the gloam eyed queen they work for. (gloam eyed queen WAS an empryian, ranni corpse has red hair and wears a jeweled necklaced red hood from the godskin culture is the only one that WAS an empryian).
@@user-tn2cr1nv4b sounds like u just don't like her go get cucked by fia an godwyn if u want but ranni best waifu
@@user-tn2cr1nv4b she’s just being poetic and metaphorical when she says those things. Think Galadriel going all spooky mode.
Her ending is about casting aside a long established order and entering a new age, of course symbolically that’s dark and arduous. It’s unknown and unexplored but still better than fucked up erd tree shit. I’m all for the Moon God mystery.
I think a huge part of appreciating Elden Ring's world and lore is perspective. This gcan be difficult for newcomers because of the way these games are categorized, they go in looking to see a 'fantasy world' similar to other fantasy RPGs like Witcher, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc. -- all of which are seeking to create something critically different than what Elden Ring and other Soulsborne FromSoft games are going for.
In most fantasy games, the purpose of the world is to be able to immerse the player as if they could live there. The games seek to create a functioning world with a society, culture, current events, towns and cities, nations and kingdoms, etc. You are supposed to be able to imagine yourself living in a little farm outside of Whiterun, and the best fantasy RPGs excel in this.
This is not the world FromSoft is creating at all. A helpful way to look at it is to think of the world of Elden Ring as not a 'fantasy' world, but a world from a mythology. The world is meant to appear
as if you are inside of the imagination of someone being told a legend from their grandpa around a campfire.
Yes, there is an appearance of a functioning group of kingdoms in Elden Ring, but this is intended as a rough sketch of what you'd imagine these 'kingdoms' from the legend would look like. It's not meant to depict an alternate world where it fully functioned and every facet of society can be seen, where all the pieces fit, it's not meant to be that.
TL;DR - Elden Ring is not a fantasy world in the same sense as games like Skyrim. It's a mythology, you're inside of a legend from a faraway land, you're like Hercules facing the Pantheon on Mt. Olympus.
True for Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3, and especially Sekiro, but not true for Bloodborne. Bloodborne was definitely meant as a world you could live in, things just went terribly.... terribly wrong.
Not bloodborne tho
Wish I could save this comment. Great way of explaining what perspective to take when thinking about the lore and stories of Fromsoft games.
I watched hours of lore videos and you not only summed them all up but added some new information. Thank you.
I also recommend Antonius Tertius lore video about 'song of lament', that Latin song chanted by those old batwomen.
Thank you for this video. This lore video comes very early in the game's lifespan and it's already a MASSIVE video, everything is on point and there are no personal opinions (except on Radagon's/Marika's bond/soul-sharing, but it's pretty much guaranteed). It makes everything I've gathered fall even more into place, especially seeing it told in a linear narrative.
I know everything in this lore is still hazy/incomplete for everyone, but I still feel like you omitted some important details from this background story. One detail that comes to mind is that the tipping point in the Golden Order's war against the giants in the mountaintops was the fact that they allied themselves with the Zamor (described as the giant's natural enemies since time immemorial, fire vs frost).
Thank you! Been trying to piece this all together on my own and even looking at the end puzzle is a bit overwhelming but this is great!
I'm really thankful for that. I had no idea what's going on, and even reading item descriptions didn't give me a clear picture. You really rekindled my love for the game when I felt a bit lost. Great work - and a great voice, too!
ive been looking for some lore-telling video with a tone that matched the games atmosphere and here it is! great job on the video, from script to editing, keep up the good work!
Happy to see your elden ring video. Hope you're doing better. Take your time with the uploads man.
Awesome video!
I’m curious if you’ve looked into the descriptions on the black knife assassin armor. That, in tandem with the description on the Numen rune, make it pretty clear that Marika has ties with the assassins. While Ranni states plainly that she stole the rune of death, Marina’s tie to the Numen maybe suggested there’s is a darker reason for Godwyn’s murder.
Great video! I think looking into Marika's relationship with the Golden Order and Radagon can also be used when explaining why she shatters the Ring. There's dialogue in the Minor Erdtree Church regarding Marika declaring that "blind belief is in the past" and her declaring her desire to "search and understand the Golden Order properly", additionally, from the Queen's Bedchamber grace there's dialogue of her speaking directly to Radagon and referring to him as "Leal Hound of the Golden Order" and specifies that he's not *yet* her and not *yet* a god so "let us both be shattered".
The ideas of Radagon and Marika starting as separate entities and becoming a single being can also be explained by the Law of Regression, part of the defining attributes of the Golden Order (and the same incantation that we use to discover Radagon's true identify) which states that "Regression is the pull of meaning; that all things yearn eternally to converge".
My Own Theory: I think Godwyn's death may have led to her seeking an understanding of the Order that she literally embodies and may not have liked what she found and rebelled (Gideon's armor states that he's terrified of her will and the end that should not be, she also sentences Hewg to build a weapon to kill a god, which is interesting because that's her). Radagon continued following the Golden Order to merge and she shatters the entire Order before they fully become the same entity, at least in terms of their will as they have the same body by the time we find them.
This was such a great video. Really clear overall concept and story! Can’t wait to see more videos fleshing out all of the lore in Elden Ring!
Well spoken and wonderfully edited! Excellently done!
Hey Jake, I've been watching your stuff pretty much since DS3 came out, and I'm so excited for all the new Elden Ring content; with as vast as this game is, it's gonna be an awesome journey running through it all together.
Keep up the good work brother!
Thanks dude, appreciate you! =)
This is exactly what I needed after finishing everything in my first run through. Cheers mate.
Dude I really appreciate how u site your sources. I feel like so many lore channels don't do that n it really irritates me n kinda makes me think less of them. I respect ppl like u much more. U added so much more meaning n depth to a game I'm falling in love with more n more.
Just discovered your channel. Amazing work. Elden Ring provides some incredible lore.
My man! Good to see you killing it with the Elden Ring content as well. Congrats!
awesome, at last a video with all the important facts elegantly chained together, thank u!
Lay•Urn•E•Ah
You would think a guy that makes videos by reading would be able to read huh
Fantastic video dude, great job here ! So let me share a thought with you guys : if the game's lore states that all empyreans have a shadow, and that Malekith and Blaidd are Marika's and Ranni's respective shadows, who are those of the two remaining empyreans Miquella and Malenia ? Could it be that we will eventually fight them or hear about them in future dlcs ?
Excellent video! I appreciate the item description source being casually listed in the corner.
This helped me understand the story much better through my playthrough! Appreciate it!
I believe that godfrey didn't loose his grace because he had no more to fight, it's that he saw what the end goal of the tree was and tried to worn his wife. However she was blinded by faith and didn't see reason but the greater will took matters into its own hands and forced her to steal his grace then banish his people. When she realized what had happened the eard beast in radagon was commanded to take Godfrey's place at her side by the greater will. This was the second betrayal she had received by the tree, the first being the imprisonment of her twins Mohg and Margot whom she tried to take care of hence why Margot was still loyal to the order. When Godwin died that was the last straw and she completely betrayed by her faith, forced to give up the one she loved, and death of a child so she took revenge and destroyed the ring at its core. Radagon now with the elden beast completely taking over the meat suit then forcefully merged with her to prevent her from finishing the job.
This explains why Godfrey had returned, he came to save his wife but seeing you thought that perhaps someone else was more qualified thus the boss fight. He came back to save her and you the tarnished he gave his blessing through combat to take his place.
Damn
We had Chads like Godfrey and Radanh, then there’s Rykard and Mogh….
@@Suessertowhat do you mean Rykard is the best lol. Don’t wanna join the serpent king?
I like this interpretation. Marika had to lose something important to realize that she was being used by the damn tree
Wow that’s beautiful. I love this. This is my canon for why Godfrey is back in the Lands Between.
Outer God that is Rot (sealed by Malenia's Mentor)
The One Great (which became the Greater Will and the Outer God of the Frenzied Flame)
The Formless Mother aka the Mother of Truth
The Fell God of the Flame of Ruin
The Moon (Dark Moon/Full Moon)
Outer God of the Deathbirds
I love this man, no spoilers to gameplay, but all the deep lore handed to us with still something to look forward to in the game. All explained in 20 minutes. I appreciate you beyond belief.
This was wonderful. Thank you for your hard work it truly paid off this was a great video my dude.
My theory is radagon is Marika's dedication to the greater will and the golden order made physical manifest and separated from Marika either by herself or the greater will. (Probably the latter). When Marika loses that dedication she start to see something she haven't realized before and that is the greater will is quite possibly a leech of souls, using the erdtree and under the guise of burying the dead at the root of the erdtree is "proper death" and the land between getting dominated by the golden order. she started the conspiracy to let ranni steal the death rune (because only she knows the death rune is in her half-brother maliketh) and planted the idea to be independent from the outer gods in ranni's head by disguise as a frost witch, shunned Godfrey and his warriors to become tarnished as desperate wild card(or maybe she genuinely loved Godfrey and make it that way so Godfrey and his kins will be spared being fodder for the erdtree and by extension the greater will).
Interesting
My entire basis for this is why she shattered the ring, and my theory is that malenia is also another of her offspring could also be her defiance against the golden will physical manifest yet again.
Spoiler:
When you kill Gideon, his armor sets said he saw Marika's will and he was afraid. He also didn't want to become elden lord anymore at that point because he said Marika wanted them to struggle for eternity because nobody should be elden lord.
@@DragonChief157 Melina is the other half of Renni that was realized when she killed her body and set both sides loose. Empyreans have two halves. At the end of the Frenzy ending they're rejoined again in a common hatred of what you did, hence the two types of eyes in one body. Marika and Radagon are the same as well and split as such, one conspiring to go their own path and the other with a devotion to the greater will. Melina has no idea where she came from because she never manifested as a full personality. The twins are supposed to be as well, as it is said in some cultures twins are two of the same soul.....but its also the cause of their "defects" because instead of just creating the child as a god (which Marika was not) she kinda impregnated herself trying to make a true heir. One is stuck a child and the other is infected with never ending rot so that backfired hard. At least thats been my take on it.
@@bmagada hmm, good theory but ranni and melina doesn't really connect? Other than ranni saying she knows torrents former owner and Melina look like the spirit form, there isn't much else to connect the two. Also I didn't know ranni would also hate you if you try to be frenzy lord, because I did her quest first. And then Melina died for the burning then I went to 3 fingers. There are so many combination to try.
This was done in DS1 as well; Gwyn, Gwyneviere,, Gwyndolin. It's not necessarily down to GRRM.
I love that i went in blind. Beat the game with tons of time in it cause I am stuck recovering from stomach surgery; hit level 181 and am still playing and finsing things. My understanding was very. Very. Very. Different after Finishing Rannis and Fias questlines. I thought i knew what was going on. Then i didn't. Then maybe. Then i dont know. But i kinda know now. Sorta. The names are what trip me up, i forget who is who and whos whos kid. This happened to me during Bloodbourne and sekiro shadows die twice too getting confused and confused how people found out certain things, the secrets and environmental storytelling in Froms games. I love it.
Been waiting for this!! Nice to have you back hollow!
Nice job with the video, I think you made a good narrative with the clues you had and showing some of the items which gave you the hints was a good idea. Cheers :)
Loved this video, super helpful lore timeline explanation!
I have a question for you which keeps gnawing at me. Why are most of those who occupy The Lands Between basically undead? Are they undead because the rune of death was stolen and now they cannot die properly? Or were they already immortal under the golden order but have gone mad due to The Shattering of the Elden Ring?
In short, what is the lore reasoning for why almost every enemy respawns/resurrects and are mainly mad/hollow/enemies in the first place?
I was thinking that the Erd Tree/Golden Grace made life beautiful simply because you were mortal, but now with the rune of death stolen most inhabitants cannot die?
Some help understanding this would be much appreciated, thanks in advance!
- So Marika was abusing Godfrey as his unstopable war machine against anyone who oposed the Greater Will and fuckboy and kicked him from the Lands Between when he fulfilled his purpose of slaying all threats.
- Marika created Radagon as her alter ego to end the war with the Carian royal family without bloodshed by marrying and banging Rennala.
- Radagon eventually re-unite with Marika again and basically fucked herself to give birth to Miquella and Malenia who both suffer curses due to being... well... selfcest offsprings.
- Ranni was not interested in this whole godhood bullshit so she stole a fragment of the rune of death and killed herself and Godwyn at the same time so that she can become spiritually immortal while Godwyn became physically immoirtal.
- After seeing what happened to her children, Marika started doubting the reign of the Greater Will and sought to break free from it, shattering the Elden Ring while Radagon, who was still loyal to the Greater Will, tried to stop her. Didn't work, the ring was broken and Marika was imprisoned for her crimes
- Her children eventually got their hands on the rune fragments and were twisted to insanity due to the fragments sheer power.
- For doing so, the Greater Will got super pissed over the demigods and started calling home the once exiled tarnished to clean up that mess
So it's basically the Greater Will being a full control freak and lost control over everything so he called for Tarnished to clean up that mess, only to kick them out again when their job is done. But our tarnished had a different plan. To me it looks like this whole 'become Elden Lord' was a bait because the greater will clearly rejected the tarnished to become elden lord and even fought him as Radagon and in its real form. But being stubborn as fuck, we kept going and forged our own destiny.
Pretty much a classic giant polytheistic family feud but with an eldritch twist.
This may not be true, but someone stated that the Tarnished are "supposed" to be loyal to the Greater Will. But the process of dying and rebirthing and long ages and generations passing, the Tarnished all collectively forgot their identities as people. You basically forget what you're actually meant to do and everyone has to kind of remind as they constantly tell you repeatedly throughout the game. But then you end up figuring out you're not supposed to become Elden Lord, you're really just a tool to help fix shit. But because you have no true loyalty other than what you make for yourself out in the lands between, you effectively become a wild card and the Greater Will is just kind of... *hoping* you don't fuck shit up and accept what it wants.
@@Zayindjejfj the greater will should've the greater figured out all tarnished would choose the Ranni waifu ending lmao
Nicely say; And what do you think about the three fingers under the capital ? What is teir goal, do you have an idea ?
Pin this comment. Nicely done.
@@peterheck2429 fr i normally dont simp but i saw them 4 hands and blue skin with her voice i was like yep whatever she wants im going to do her questline.
Bravo fine Sir! That video was excellently presented and paced. Your work here has given me a richer understanding, that has only added to this exceptional gaming experience. Thank you.
Yay!! I've been looking forward to this!! Thank you so much!
Question: Is The Lands Between like a "afterlife" type place? Or like 1 realm out of many? Kind of like Viking mythology. Like is The Lands between kind of like Asgard, and the places the tarnished go are regular realms where mortals live?
Like in the Human (tarnished) realm there are the places like Kaiden, Reeds, The Badlands etc etc. And then the demi gods and what not live in The Lands Between (kind of like Asgard), where the tarnished (humans) are called back, and the worthy becomes a god himself.
That's how I see it too. Though Mount Olympus was the comparison I had in my head but basically the same. The lands between seem to be the realm of the gods.
It’s definitely Norse based, hence the world tree esc thing
The lands between sounds more like Midgard to me
I’ve always thought since Marika is a vessel, the greater will could alter its vessel to its will.
Perfect video, the item in the corner showing where do you picked is awesome.
Best lore explanation I’ve found yet! (And I’ve watched a few)
Great video! Now we have the greater picture down, can't wait for the ultimate 2 hour lore explanation in a year or so hahaha
Btw do we actually know where Melina is standing in all this? Why she seeks us out? Why is she saying that her mother resides in the Ertree? (assuming Marika) Why is her right eye "sealed" and shut all the time, but at the Frenzied Flame ending, she swears to kill us and deliver our Death, but then her eyes are different and the right one is open?
I think cause Melina is Ranni in some way ¿?
the lore of this game is so bloody amazing.
It's so deep , it's probably something people will be talking about for years to come.
I cant wait to see the entire story / lore of this game unravel (all the characters , side stories , world secrets , etc.)
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dlc finna restart everyones progress lol
YES! Here for this. Can't wait to watch this in the morning. Hopefully you make more ER content
Very well put together video summary, I've seen quite a few lore videos on Elden and they usually go very broad with the story or focus on one aspect of lore. Your video did a very good job of giving enough backstory to all the faceless names and piecing them together. Well done.
Thank you! =D
12:50 ive actually read some stuff online that counters this. Ppl say that time within farum azula does not work properly, and thus the maliketh we see in azula is actually a past version of himself. This this would explain who Gurranq is in the Bestial Sanctum: the present version of maliketh who exiled himself after the rune of death was stolen. Additionally, this makes sense since Gurranq asks for deathroot. Perhaps he is trying to carry on his duty of protecting death by confiscating all the deathroots and getting rid of them by consumption
If you have feed Gurranq all 9 Deathroots (I think is the number) he'll recognize you in Farum Azula. So, I don't think that is his past self.
@@TheAshenHollow wait so how do they relate to one another then? Because if u kill maliketh then gurranq still lives
@@velocity834 the good ol' scuse of "time is convoluted"
@@felipeguidolin1055 lmao, true. As a scientist it especially trips me up but sometimes u rlly just have to accept it
One small detail worth adding is that Radagon is at least the third Elden Lord, as the Dragonlord Placidusax is said to have been one before even the Erdtree age.
I think the difference is Placidusax was a Lord, just not an Elden lord as they came before the Erdtree
@@jondubois5347 I think is remembrence specifically says that he was Elden Lord before the age of the Erdtree.
@@buschkoeter How's that possible though? That's confusing.
@@sammm141 oh! oh! Okay, so if Destined Death was the proper way people were meant to die AND there was a time before the Erdtree redistributed the souls of the dead AND the Dungeater has the ability to sever a soul from the Erdtree.... all of that combined implies that the Erdtree is actually a perversion of the natural order. I suspect it essential powers the Greater Will.
i love that you show your scorces, this is amazing thank you!
Incredible! Thank you for this wonderful video!
The only thing that makes me wonder, is the fact that Dragonlord Placidusax, as stated in his remembrance, was an Elden Lord before the Erdtree, and lost his position once his god fled.
Could it be that the dragons were chosen by the greater will *before* they did Marika? Or is there something we are not being explicitly told?
One guess is that the other Outer Gods all had capacity to create an Elden Lord. I assume it wasn't the Greater Will or the Formless Mother, but some other God probably Draconic in nature. With the burst of power from the Comet and formation of the Elden Ring, that was probably enough to make the previous God flee and allow the Greater Will and it's vessels to essentially Usurp what would have been the natural order of mortal creatures in the land between. I'm even wondering if the Greater Will is just a cover name for the true nature if the God. A name like that makes service to the God seem inevitable to a mortal creature with a fleeting life
Not by the greater will but a different power.
From my understanding he was Godfrey but when he was banished took on the moniker of Hoarah Loux. Badlands chieftain. I could be wrong though ☝🏼
Excellent video in every way! I especially liked the way you included the sources.
Yes finally! Been waiting for this. Welcome back
Vaati taking too long let’s goooo
If great runes are shattered pieces of the Elden Ring (14:56) does that mean that Radagon broke off a piece and put it into an amber egg to gift it to Rennala?
Amazing work! Thank you!! I was utterly baffled but you really put it all together :D
You have a great narrative voice for this kind of thing. Keep up the great work. Well done 💯👌🏼
You're too kind! ☺
Makes almost sense so far, but what keeps me wondering is, how Marika (Radagon) gave a great Rune to Rennala before the Elden Ring was shattered. Wouldn't this already start the shattering? Also, there was something before the Age of the Erdtree that seems to influence the Events of the Shattering, because ingame (i.e. the Map Fragments descriptions) it is stated, that the places beneath the Lands Between like Nokron for example belong to a long lost civilisation before the Age of the Erdtree. And the Finger Blade one must collect for Rannis Questline is said to be the treasure of the eternal city of Nokron. Then there are things like Astel or the Primordial Cruscible, the still living Dragons and their worshippers and so on and so forth. There are still a lot of blanks to draw confusion from :'D
The shattering occured when radagon, marikas husband, and part of herself left her for another woman, rennala. She was driven to despair having lost her childen to curses and her beloved one to someone else. Radagon felt her despair and rushed for the capital, leaving rennala behind. He was too late though and marika shattered the ring, only thing he could do was to halve ass repair the ring. Godfrey ruled in an age of shattering, lost his grace, left the lands, this led to the shatter wars.
This is true. This video is far from perfect & hasn't taken into account multiple things that you've mentioned. I'm guessing Vaati will cover it, hopefully.
@@Mordarim this can’t be correct because Godfrey was banished before Radagon became Marika’s consort.
Radagon only returned to become Marika’s Consort because she didn’t have a husband anymore.
Awesome. This pieces the lore together really well.
I still have no idea who Melina really is. It's implied that she's another child of Marika and there's a lot of theories that she's another "half" of Ranni in the way that Marika and Radagon are the same person. Ranni explains about ridding herself of a body and putting her soul into the doll very plainly but she mentions nothing about Melina... nobody mentions her at all that I know of. The eyes COULD mean they were once the same person, but the mark on Melina's eye has 3 lines that seem to represent the Three Fingers and the Frenzied Flame and Ranni's probably has something to with ice. I can't really tell if their goals are aligned in any way either.
doesnt Ranni talk about "Torrents former master" when she gives us the bell to summon spirits?
@@Error-mn4el i always thought Torrent belonged to someone other than Melina cause she gives it to us like no big deal but then again she's pretty much traveling with us just not physically there
@@HunterSolo but she seems to trust and have a lot of attachment. She asks us to thank him and speaks about how she should have trusted him during the game
@@Baytuh She never says those words. I find it hard to believe that Marika had yet another daughter that she kept completely secret and that nobody ever mentions by name. I think Melina is Marika's soul separated from her body after being imprisoned by the Erdtree. She talks like Marika is her mother, because how else can you explain it? I think she's the embodiment of Marika's regrets and she regrets everything. Becoming a God, taking the rune of death out of the ring and messing up the natural flow of life and certainly what all of this did to her children. The amount of sheer sorrow in Melina's voice is impossible to deny. You can really hear that sorrow all the more whenever she quotes Marika when you talk to her at the various churches in the game. It's all regret - and the pain of regret definitely fits with the themes that both Miyazaki and George RR Martin love to put in their stories.
@@Baytuh I think you're right about that. I'm not saying my theory is correct but Melina's "birth" at the foot of the Erdtree could have been when Marika split her soul from her body at the moment of her imprisonment by the Erdtree.
Incredible to have you back, my friend! Thank you for the excellent video! 🙏🏻
this was awesome, explained things in a simple and straightforward way so it was easy to understand
I remember dark souls 1 and 3 is like: The magic fire age is ending, get god souls to rekindle it.
And Elden ring I had barely an idea what was going on lol
Its the same thing.
Theory: Radagon/Marikas wounds are self inflicted. As Marika attempted to break the Elden ring, Radagon gained control and wounded their body to either stop the process, or at least slow it.
The shattering of the elden ring shattered her.
Also, since their body was vessel to the Elden Ring itself, they needed to damage their own body to break the Elden Ring inside.
@@linksh0t263 great point!
@@Hazel-II ahh good point.
This was shown in the trailer too, Einstein.
This is so good! I loved your Dark Souls content so I'm excited to Elden Ring too. Thanks for all the great videos!
this is a masterpiece. thank you so much for making this video!
Wait how did Radagon give an amber containing a great rune to Rennala, when the Elden Ring isn't shattered yet? Isnt a great rune a shattered pieces of Elden Ring?
It seems parts of the Elden Ring can be removed without totally shattering it. The rune of Death for example, which was removed and given to Maliketh.
Lorenia? Isnt it Liurnia?
A lot of work went into this. Great job
Awesome ! As allways thanks a lot for you work. With this video on the main lore and the two videos of MadLuigi on the endings I now have a good idea of the whole lore :D
I wanna know who the storm lord was, and why Godfrey was banished I mean this dude is incredibly powerful
@@Xenos369 True, GW forced Marika to cast him out. Maybe he was so powerfull that GW scared his power, scared that he may broke free from its grasp.
Amazing video!! One question, do you know why is Ranni considered an empyrean? If she was born from Radagon and Rennala she shouldn't meet the requirements, right?
its bcs marika and radagon is the same person,and marika is an empyrean so is Radagon
@@ivanraoulp149 yes, but, by the same logic, why Radhan and Rykard are not empyreans? It seems like there is something different between Ranni's origin and her brothers'.
@@etemvand2971 Punnet squares man
It makes sense if you don't overthink it. Siblings frequently display different traits from both of their parents. Ranni, Radahn, and Rykard do just that
This was the only question I had in regards to lore except for how many other outer gods and fingers there are.
One theory is that she was Empyrean but raised as if Rennala were her mother.
this is absolutely the best video about elden ring story i’ve found! thank you so much!
You're too kind, dude!
I'm two weeks late watching this but wow this breakdown of the lore was pure perfection. Looking forward to watch more of these.
This is fantastic. Covers just about everything, but I'm still left with a couple lingering questions- what's up with the dragons / dragon cult and their relation to Godwyn? Were there dragons and their magics in the lands between before the erdtree? If so, what's the source of their power - same as the giants? And the clay men underground - are they driven by / harvesting meteor / gravity magic, or are they driven by the same energy as the dragons, beasts and fire giants? And if the greater will came from the stars on a meteorite and so did all the glintstone and its magic - was that meteor one and the same, or are these two warring factions of alien gods, or was this magic here before the meteorites...?
Is the greater will AND the light of fate both from / wrote in stone of the stars and the glintstone cuz the sky of elden ring is one big dome, a bigger version of the glintstone stars of the siofria river??? is that why you can't see the curvature of the elden ring earth????? flat erd theory confirmted??????
the first paragraph got me, my eyes wide, like "damn, this is good"... and then came "flat erd" loool
@@dogfood142 im gonna be honest, anything is really possible.
I think we are gonna get answers in dlc.
Gotta save some mysteries for the dlc my friend
@@afunkymonke i think most likely that we are going to see miquella or an explenation on the age of stars. I hope they come with some conclusive materiel because the only real reason to pick age of stars atm is to not be maidenless…
Dragon, giants and death birds all exist before the erdtree. Giants are said to serve a fell god while the dragon lord pladicusax worship another outer gods, same as the death birds. Godwyn himself defeated an ancient dragon called fortissax and befriend it, their friendship created the dragon cult in the capital.
I still have one question, who tf is melina. She’s so mysterious and I just wanna know more about her
The only confirmed fact is that she's Marika's daughter, confimed via a dialogue early game "Me, I'm searching for my purpose given to me by my mother inside the Erdtree long ago, for the reason that I yet live, burned and bodyless."
As who she really is or how she came to life is still unknown, but the first theory is she's one part of Ranni who split into another being when she killed herself to escape her empyrean body. She also said that she's burned and bodyless, that means she's just a spectral figure. That partly explains why noone in the game ever mentions her, despite she's also the child of Marika. Both Ranni and Melina seems to know each other though. Ranni mentioned Torrent's former master (which is Melina) to give you the summoning bell, when she met you at the Church of Elleh.
For the second theory, it seems that she's also have ties with the Three Fingers/Frenzy Flame God since she have the cursemark of the Frenzy Flame on one of her eye. She's also vows to kill you, first when you accept the Frenzy Flame curse, and second in the Lord of Chaos ending. Maybe that's the reason she said that she's burned and bodyless, since every Radagon + Marika child is cursed and have M as their initials (Malenia, Miquella, and possibly Melina).
Both of the theory is just guesswork though and by no means is the truth. Hopefully Fromsoft gonna explain on those topics in future DLCs.
Love your videos, happy your making elden ring content:)
Yoo that reverse Maliketh clip was such a nice touch to the narrative (12:36) and 19:28 looks like Melina is talking in a deep voice
Suddenly, becoming Elden Lord doesn't sound quite so appealing.
I was just thinking this myself after watching this!
I have a wild theory, that there was never an actual "breaking" of elden ring by Marika. That the death of a demigod showed everybody, that the established rule is not unshakable and Marika's will is not absolute, which triggered the shattering war. So the demigods and the empyreans went to imprison the queen and take parts of the greater will/the elden ring/ the great runes with them. SO nobody was happy with one, so everybody tried to get the runes of other either through direct war or some heresy, like blood or becoming a giant snake.
Been waiting for this.....Cheers!
So happy this was posted before I go to bed, I'm excited for more lore vids
The greater will extended it's grace to the tarnished but you reach the end of the game. You have to fight Radagon and Elden Beast. Why you have you fight them? when you come to restore the order. it looks like they doesn't want you to be the Elden lord.
The player has other options though, there are endings where you go against the Greater Will, so you're a danger to it
So who is Margit then?
Is Margit and Morgot are same?
So far as we can tell, Margit and Morgott are the same. As we see when trying to enter the capital, Margit can use magic to possess others or transform them into him, so he can theoretically be anywhere and assume any name.
thx a lot for this excellent summary! I didn't get that Ranni startet the night of the black knifes. and you also enlightened my confusion about Marika and Radogan! awsome work!
Marika wasn't trying to shatter the Ring, she was trying to destroy it. Radagon's resistance to this caused the Ring to shatter instead of being outright destroyed.
Finally making sense of the mess here! Damn you absolutely pieced it together perfectly.
I'm a lore enthusiast of the souls series and was pretty confused about what is exactly the nature of the motive of our Tarnished here. I was initially of the impression that our objective here is vastly different from that in Dark souls. But that isn't so.
In Dark souls, you're merely an undead who burns himself to keep the flame alive and carry the legacy of Lord Gwyn. In Elden Ring, not only do you become the Elden Lord and live with a newfound identify altogether, but also carrying the Legacy of the Greater Will. The proportions are much more greater and more epic than Dark Souls, but having a semblance as well.
Even though I still love the character of our journey as an undead/ashen one of DS more then the journey of a Tarnished in ER, but this game is surely gonna give much more satisfaction than the ending of DS (DS1 atleast).
I'd really love to see some more games set in this universe, there are multiple avenues of further expansion, sequels and prequels even.