Guitar Companies Milking Dead Artists For Profit

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Komentáře • 306

  • @14fluffies
    @14fluffies Před 16 dny +307

    I shudder at the thought of what's going to happen when Slash dies 😂

    • @samuelwnovak
      @samuelwnovak Před 15 dny +46

      Oof LOL. A yearly replica of one of the 400 indistinguishable Les Pauls in his collection that he may or may not have played in a professional capacity at some point. They’ll all have a dumb little nickname, a signed certificate of authenticity, and a bunch of lame memorabilia/case candy because it’s all about the uNbOxInG eXpErIeNcE

    • @deweyoogwey
      @deweyoogwey Před 15 dny +4

      400s of Jessica? oof

    • @bucknaked31
      @bucknaked31 Před 14 dny

      He will go to Paradise City! 😉

    • @erikolsen1333
      @erikolsen1333 Před 13 dny +1

      Oh don’t you but that on me Ricky Bobby don’t you put that evil on me

    • @erikolsen1333
      @erikolsen1333 Před 13 dny +2

      @@samuelwnovakoh that sweet sweet unboxing. Lol😂 ❤

  • @nathanchalcraft6919
    @nathanchalcraft6919 Před 16 dny +155

    Gibson just recenly did this with jeff beck and his "yardburst" les paul. Like, bro, i know jeff played a few gibsons in his day, but he was a fender artist. Jeez man! Dont be surprised of we see a jeff beck ox blood reissue too.

    • @dw7704
      @dw7704 Před 16 dny +7

      There was one while he was alive.

    • @erikolsen1333
      @erikolsen1333 Před 13 dny +2

      The ox 🐂 blood 🩸

    • @bradconklin2878
      @bradconklin2878 Před 9 dny

      Well, if you fuckers weren't all Burst happy they could have done the Blow by Blow Oxblood.

    • @OLDSACKS
      @OLDSACKS Před 5 dny +1

      That reminds me when Gibson made a Hendrix signature for Authentic Hendrix.
      You would have expected them to make a run of psychedelic Flying V's and/or custom SG's, but all they did was prototyping a cheap bottom tier wonky-looking strat copy. It rightfully never went into full production.

    • @sammy-whirl8500
      @sammy-whirl8500 Před 19 hodinami

      Nice try, fender

  • @cor8003
    @cor8003 Před 16 dny +115

    Also don't forget about Chuck Schuldiner's Stealth for 11 grand (as far as I remember, maybe it's less by now)

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 16 dny +16

      😩😩

    • @dervpool
      @dervpool Před 16 dny +16

      Honestly anything Chuck related. Just a quick look at Relapse and the way they use the properties is infuriating. Especially considering how his nephew has to sell Chucks personal stuff nowadays to cover his medical expenses.

    • @Cinder.
      @Cinder. Před 15 dny +2

      Chuck USA is 9 grand

    • @michaelnugent9758
      @michaelnugent9758 Před 15 dny +2

      ​@@dervpoolJesus...😢

    • @Lordoftheswollen
      @Lordoftheswollen Před 15 dny +6

      Another 10k and you can just buy Chucks actual guitar.

  • @rikkifknrobin
    @rikkifknrobin Před 16 dny +46

    I'd say probably the only one I've seen that I'm not AS upset over is the Kurt Cobain Jagstang. He designed it and got to play it during the last Nirvana tour, and I'm sure it got approval from his estate. That said, I think a squier version would have been more appropriate than an almost $1100 fender version. Not that we can't have a "high end" version, but it'd be a great option to have

    • @nuggetstew4380
      @nuggetstew4380 Před 15 dny +8

      Kurt would be rolling in his grave if he saw that his guitars were being sold for sky high prices

    • @rikkifknrobin
      @rikkifknrobin Před 15 dny +8

      @@nuggetstew4380 that's why I think a squier version would be perfect

    • @immortalmachine5839
      @immortalmachine5839 Před 15 dny

      ​@nuggetstew4380 You mean he'd be upset that the guitar that he designed is being sold at the price that it's spec'd for??? Would it be better if they were 200 dollar paperweights that couldn't hold a tune?

    • @Gliese710_
      @Gliese710_ Před 14 dny +6

      @@immortalmachine5839squiers usually hold tune fine, and yea, he probably wouldn’t of cared if it was specd crazy, 90% of the guitars he played were shit lol. $250-$460 would’ve made way more sense than $1100.

    • @kinounderground
      @kinounderground Před 10 dny

      @@immortalmachine5839they already don’t hold tune that well, especially for the price. Why not make them a 499 Squier that’s actually worth the money instead of a Fender that just isn’t.

  • @SerjShower
    @SerjShower Před 15 dny +41

    Hey big guy! Generally good points, but I must add a few things regarding ESP in specific;
    1. Guitars that say ESP on the headstock mean they are made in either the USA or JP custom shop, but all ESP models for sale through retailers are generally the Japan custom shop
    2. ESP Japan's prices are high across the board. For Example, the CHEAPEST ESP Japan model you can purchase (according to their website) is the ESP SNAPPER-7, running at $4,499. Most artists' ESP signature models run significantly higher, Stephen Carpenter's baritone Tele 7 string running at $5,399, all the way to Alex Skolnick's signature LP-style singlecut running at $9,299. So it's worth it to say, this is not a unique situation to the Alexi Laiho Greeny (which still ran for about $5k before the pandemic)
    3. ESP's E-II line is all Production models, like what PRS's S2 line is to their Core line. Still made in Japan, but on a Production Line rather than in the custom shop, lowering the cost.
    that's all, sorry for the wall of text!

  • @DannyRoss_
    @DannyRoss_ Před 16 dny +39

    Imo when an artist is deceased the only guitars/gear that should be made with their name attached to it should be either replicas of guitars they’d previously used or designs that they’d approved but never got to play due to their passing
    The fender SRV model for example was released after SRV’s death but he had played and approved prototypes

    • @Gliese710_
      @Gliese710_ Před 14 dny +3

      And the cobain jagstang, he never got to play it live, but it was approved.

  • @BuntySaha
    @BuntySaha Před 16 dny +32

    Commenting from Japan
    8:52 ESP logo means ESP custom shop factory (usually build by one guy)
    E-II are production models (a team of luthiers to reduce the cost)
    Custom shops are always priced between 7k to 20k because one or two luthiers make them.
    that ESP logo alexi model should be the exact thing what alexi played.
    the wood type can be the same but not the wood selection from custom shops and the labour costs of a master luthier is quite expensive.
    love your videos, just commenting as a ESP fanboy and owner of several esp custom shops.

    • @cadengroves
      @cadengroves Před 16 dny +7

      Came here for this, the ESP Alexi is fair, it’s an ESP custom shop and a signature. So 7k sounds about right. Alternatively most people will grab the LTD or Edwards one for much cheaper. But the ESP model should be, and was what Alexi played

    • @guyfawkes8873
      @guyfawkes8873 Před 16 dny

      Yea I was thinking same. E-II and ‘ESP’ are not the same price brackets. Whether that’s worth it, I have no clue, but they’re not.

    • @brandonwilcox9316
      @brandonwilcox9316 Před 16 dny

      Also I’m pretty sure ESP has had a custom shop version of Alexi’s guitars pretty much since he first signed on with them so it wasn’t really a new thing either.
      They’ve always done that with most of their sig models as long as I can remember.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Před 16 dny +3

      @@cadengroves Yeah, it's a similar price as the ESP Hetfield and Hammett signatures. And they've always had Alexi Laiho models because he was one of their most prominent artists.

  • @BlazonStone
    @BlazonStone Před 16 dny +46

    You could have mentioned Jackson releasing a black RR24 with gold hardware just recently....
    After Alexi Laihos death.
    Pretty much a copy of what the Jackson was using before ESP...
    (and thats not counting the old RR24s from after he switched to ESP but still alive)

    • @Lucas-dm7xo
      @Lucas-dm7xo Před 16 dny +7

      It’s stupid he already had a signature esp but Jackson wanted to capitalize off his death a couple years ago

    • @BlazonStone
      @BlazonStone Před 14 dny

      @@TheHill1798 Dan Spitz had 22 frets, two humbuckers, reversed inlays and no yellow outlines. So it's not the same

  • @Kylora2112
    @Kylora2112 Před 16 dny +13

    I'll disagree about the Alexi Laiho guitar...that was an ESP (their custom shop build line) and it's a similar price to the James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett signatures (and that design was a staple in Alexi's collection). The M-II was from their high-end production E-II brand, so it's not a direct comparison, even though the raw materials are the same. It'd be like comparing a Fender American Standard Strat to a Fender Custom Shop Master Built Strat with the same specs.

  • @Mr.Goldbar
    @Mr.Goldbar Před 16 dny +14

    When it comes to the EVH thing, I actually like the idea. It's enough EVH with the configuration and the guts without totally screaming to the world "I wanna be EVH". Plus I still fantasize about getting one of these and then getting a regular pickguard and less "fucked up" electronics for it. I'm sure his family (i.e. Wolfgang for example) approved of this, so if they don't see an issue I have no reason to see one myself.
    The Dime cases are different, we all know there were so many issues between Dean and the Dimebag estate, Dime was basically Dean's only real money maker, and both these album cover MLs and the MXR distortion pedal are low end junk.
    My take is that the deciding factors are the actual quality of the product (not anything subjective and unrelated like "EVH never played a Frankenstrat without stripes) and the approval of the estate and family of these legends. They know better than all of us what's disespectful and what's not, and it's their decision after all.

    • @vhsorion
      @vhsorion Před 16 dny +2

      Yup

    • @gazzeteboke3665
      @gazzeteboke3665 Před 8 dny +2

      dunno about dean, but for EVH, as a diehard fan, I couldnt agree more lol. I do own a frankesntrat replica as it was my dream guitar ever since I saw it in Eddie's live videos. Currently i'm attempting the second time to make a tribute guitar by buying parts online to eddie so I can play like him, and keep his guitar in my bedroom to honor him and not damage it since i love it so much.

  • @THE-CRT
    @THE-CRT Před 15 dny +6

    I feel like Kurt Cobain is one of the more fair artists, just a Jaguar and a jag-stang. Only thing that sucks about those signatures is the Jaguar’s inaccuracies to Kurt’s original jag: completely different finish, different pickup spacing, 7.25 in radius, black chrome tune-o-matic with brass saddles, one string tree not two, and any thing else I’ve forgotten.

  • @elpolitemexa2272
    @elpolitemexa2272 Před 15 dny +6

    one correction about EVH and Fender; Fender doesnt own EVH, they simply manufacture and are in charge of distribution but they dont actually own any of the pattents related to either the guitars, the amps and gear in general. Think of it like a concession.

  • @dw7704
    @dw7704 Před 16 dny +12

    So what about Les Paul, the man?

  • @southernpanda33
    @southernpanda33 Před 16 dny +42

    I don’t like cocaine, I just love the way it smells. 9:46

    • @juanvaldez5422
      @juanvaldez5422 Před 16 dny +1

      Smells like ether , yum

    • @poltergeist3194
      @poltergeist3194 Před 16 dny +2

      Smells like a good time to me.
      👃__________

    • @darksu6947
      @darksu6947 Před 15 dny

      ​@@juanvaldez5422The best I've ever had smelled like diesel fuel and was a pale yellow color

    • @Knarrenheinz1021
      @Knarrenheinz1021 Před 9 dny

      @@juanvaldez5422what you get is what you see

    • @joseislanio8910
      @joseislanio8910 Před 2 dny

      Eric Clapton signature cocaine

  • @axelnoi
    @axelnoi Před 16 dny +8

    I think you need to step off the company for a second my man.
    The only thing they are guilty of is making a product that is in demand.
    Most guitar companies know what they should produce based on what the consumer wants and asks for and they keep producing it when it keeps selling.
    Guitars are priced on global supplay and demand. The company doesn’t just shit out a nr.
    No self respecting man would undersell his own self worth or product.
    As for evh guitars. It’s not a signature guitar. It’s a brand. So they make every style they can make. Eddie even had a big hand in that company and how it should be run. The family owns a part of it.

  • @JamieSlays
    @JamieSlays Před 16 dny +11

    love the editorial stuff :)

  • @JanXD
    @JanXD Před 16 dny +8

    E II =/= ESP Custom Shop

  • @MT_800
    @MT_800 Před 16 dny +13

    As of the time I'm making this comment, Dean have 2 different Razorbacks, a Stealth and a Rebel featured on their website (I'm pretty sure the Rebel is another Dimebag shape). Dean removed the Dime branding from these Dime-made shapes, which is super sketchy. I even talked to Eric Morettin about the situation, and we agreed that it was messed up. The only good thing I can say is that the USA Stealth and Rebel models actually look kinda classy in my opinion.

    • @coadekat
      @coadekat Před 16 dny +4

      I’m pretty sure the whole catalyst for the lawsuit was that Dean applied for a trademark for the stealth/razorback shapes, when the original contract they signed with Dime stated that they legally could NOT apply for these trademarks and that they were Dime’s sole property. Real shitty of them, especially when they’re asking $4700 for them.

    • @MT_800
      @MT_800 Před 16 dny

      @@coadekat I believe you're spot on there. I honestly don't know how the whole Dime estate lawsuit ended, since Dean are still offering the Dime shapes currently.

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades Před 16 dny

      Dean has always held the trademarks for the Stealth and Razorback.
      Diamond should have done the work to protect his I.P.

    • @MT_800
      @MT_800 Před 16 dny

      @@vorpalblades Dean supposedly filed to trademark the Stealth and Razorback shapes in 2007, which was after the stipulation from the original deal that they would not legally own Dimebag's shapes.

  • @GarArgus
    @GarArgus Před 15 dny +11

    Re: Alexi Laiho and ESP:
    You're misguided or straight up wrong on multiple point:
    - E-II are factory built in Japan, ESP are custom shop guitars made in Japan*.
    That's where the price difference comes from. You' ll find similar price disparity on signature models of artists who are still alive: Will Adler's ESP Warbird Distressed costs about 10 000€/$ (more expensive than the Alexi's Greeny you mentionned), James Hetfield ESP Iron Cross costs about 6500, Kirk Hammet's ESP KH-2 Vintage is about 6000, Max Cavalera's ESP RPR is about 6300, Gary Holt's ESP EC Lava is about 7000...
    All of these guitars are that price because they're custom shop guitars. E-II will always be cheaper because they're factory built.
    The price has nothing to do with the artist being alive or not.
    - Alexi has had signature guitars with ESP pretty much ever since he joined ESP, it's not a new "post death" policy.
    - Unlike Dimebag and EVH, all the Alexi signature models were guitars he actually played, even the newest purple ones.
    ESP also has a Jeff Hanneman signature model, but again it's based on a guitar he actually played and not a made up thing and the existence of a signature model once again predates his death.
    So yeah, the criticism towards ESP is pretty unwarranted here, they're nothing like Dean or Fender.
    *For those who might be confused, with ESP's branding:
    MIJ factory built guitars were called ESP Standard Series before the E-II branding was introduced, and custom shop ESP had the words "custom shop" written on the front and back of the headstock. Nowadays the ESP branding is restricted to guitars made in their custom shops in Japan or the US (under the ESP USA name).

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 15 dny +5

      Past a certain price point it should not matter where it's built or who built it if the specs are identical.
      The reason I gravitate towards certain expensive hand-built guitars is because they offer specs and/or aesthetics that others don't.
      The two ESP examples in this video are the same guitar twice, it's not like the custom shop isn't using CNC

    • @GarArgus
      @GarArgus Před 15 dny +8

      That's not the argument you're making in this video though. This isn't a video about the value of custom shop guitars vs production ones while having similar specs, it's about brands abusing dead musician's names for profit and you're showing Alexi's Greeny guitar as an example of corporate greed due to a price that you consider to be overinflated.
      However, as I pointed out in my comment, the price has nothing to do with the artist being alive or not. Kirk Hammett's ESP KH2 is identical to the E-II M-II presented in this video (in fact, the M-II is essentially a "deKirked" KH2), yet it still costs nearly 5000€/$ due to being a custom shop guitar. Not to mention the LTD version of the KH2, which costs about 1500€/$ while having the same specs has the ESP KH2 or the E-II M-II.
      The price is purely due to the production process, not whether they're alive or not. The argument you're making in this video simply doesn't apply to ESP.

    • @leostratonly
      @leostratonly Před 15 dny

      I agree with sixstring on this one. I don’t care WHO build that guitar or WHERE or HOW. A guitar that’s base spects are a pickup below 100$ and a tremolo for about a 100$ CANT BE A 7000 DOLLARS EVER

    • @norwish6940
      @norwish6940 Před 8 hodinami

      @@leostratonly​​⁠the crafting process is EXACTLY what determines the price, even with the same specs. The E-II is a factory made guitar, the ESP Custom Shop is handcrafted by VERY experienced luthiers, and are some of the nicest and finest guitars, and because it’s handmade, it takes much longer time to make it.
      And because of this, the E-II being factory made and ESP CS handmade, the E-II will cost less than the CS, as it isn’t worth the same as someone spending time and energy making it themselves.
      Think of it like this, a blanket made in a factory will be cheaper than a blanket handmade by a person, because the person pours time, energy and their own resources into it.

    • @norwish6940
      @norwish6940 Před 8 hodinami

      @@sixstringtv1well considering that ESP CS guitars are handmade…

  • @Rolli6669
    @Rolli6669 Před 13 dny +2

    The irony of this video is that Dime got buried with Eddies black and yellow guitar.

  • @nuggetstew4380
    @nuggetstew4380 Před 15 dny +2

    As an Alexi Laiho fan, the only thing I have any complaint about for his amazing signature guitars, are the insane prices people resell them for since his passing. Even his cheapest LTD model went from roughly 2-300 USD to damn near 800 USD. I am glad that ESP was able to recognize Allu’s final vision for his last line of signatures, but seeing his guitars sold for outrageous prices, is quite upsetting.

    • @GarArgus
      @GarArgus Před 15 dny

      Pretty much all ESP/LTD guitars prices have increased across the board since the pandemic, it's not limited to Alexi's signatures. Check out the price of Kirk's SV or Gary's SV, they're even more expensive than Alexi's signature LTDs.
      Looking at Thomann, the Gary Holt GH-SV is a whopping 1000€ more than Alexi's Hexed.

  • @jordanfreeman4170
    @jordanfreeman4170 Před 14 dny +2

    Bro, as someone who has brought up the Alexi Laiho guitar stuff on your channel before.....Before covid I had put a Alexi-600 on layaway and it was 500 bucks and in "excellent" condition (it was the white with black hollow pin stripes for anyone wondering) when I could finally go in to pick it up they said that they sold it "on accident" . Then the GOAT passed away and everything doubled in price for his used models. Even his posthumous signature releases were well above the normal pricing, no steel frets, no boost on the LTD model even though it was several hundred more than ANY other signature model released. it was like getting hit twice, losing my idol and then having to shell out way more just to have the chance of owning one. I am happy that they did release the Hexxed and RIpped models but, they did play us fans like a fiddle. EDIT: this was at guitarcenter

  • @STORMBREAKER_250
    @STORMBREAKER_250 Před 16 dny +5

    I somewhat disagree about the EVH thing. Somewhat. I like the idea of having an instrument that plays and sounds like Eddie, without being so inextricably tied to him with the stripes. Their Kramer-style guitars, the Wolfgang, and even the Star in the same series as these new Frankies, totally okay. But the mangled look, I think is milking it a bit...

  • @flinto2002
    @flinto2002 Před 15 dny +3

    I have one of those and it actually fills a market need. I love the aesthetic and homage of Frankie but I don’t want to play a guitar w stripes…enter the solid color Frankie’s. I usually dig your videos and I get it that snark gets you engagement, but you’re off base.

  • @tf2exordium
    @tf2exordium Před 16 dny +5

    Yeah everything with dean seems to have went downhill after dean z left the company in 2008, its a shame cause they have some great instruments

  • @griffinchandler8027
    @griffinchandler8027 Před 15 dny +2

    I’m a little shocked you brought up alexi and only talked about esp and not Jackson making an almost exact replica of his first Jackson guitar

  • @zeno99
    @zeno99 Před 15 dny +3

    I found him! A guitar youtuber that doesn't kneel at the alter of EVH.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 15 dny +6

      Dude was an incredible player and I will never be 10% as good as he was, It's just the music he wrote that isn't really for me 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @kenjicarlos8402
      @kenjicarlos8402 Před 3 dny +2

      @@sixstringtv1I like that you can respect universally worshipped guitarists despite not particularly enjoying their works

  • @imacactus2
    @imacactus2 Před 15 dny +2

    I can only hope my deplorable taste in guitars is immortalized upon my passing.

  • @morgothbauglir906
    @morgothbauglir906 Před 16 dny +3

    You know, I agree with the sentiment... but, what about Les Paul? I do find it interesting that this has become essentially normalized for his signature guitars and I don't see anyone coming up to bat for his name and image, so to speak.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 15 dny +1

      I see where you're coming from, and this did sort of cross my mind while scripting this video.
      If any of these people had designed guitars so influential that eventually the shape becomes public domain due to popularity, I suppose it would be forgivable hahah.
      If Gibson discontinued the LP they'd be out of business tomorrow 😂

  • @pointymason
    @pointymason Před 15 dny +1

    Spat my drink out on my monitor at the Bentley line, that was GOLD 🤣

  • @mburtondavis
    @mburtondavis Před 16 dny +23

    Eric Clapton is still alive!?

  • @DeathPenny
    @DeathPenny Před 15 dny +2

    Not saying the pricing isn't high, or that you are wrong concerning the spec similarity, but that Alexy V is an ESP Custom Shop guitar - hand made in Japan - most of the ESP original series arrows start at $6,000, the E-II guitars are factory made in Japan. Think Gibson Custom shop vs Gibson USA, so the Alexy markup is considerably less than you are implying. And no, I do not have any ESP or E-II branded guitars - I have a couple of LTD's which spec wise are usually identical to their ESP versions, just made in Indonesia/Korea. You could have compared to one of the LTD models and made the "Price Gouge" even more dramatic.

  • @JasonGuitarHand
    @JasonGuitarHand Před 14 dny +1

    Well i agree with everything you said. But I do want to mention thst Ibanez did once a limited run of Affordable Paul Gray tribute Bass guitars a year after his death, and the profits were being donated to his family. So I dont mind using the artist name, as long as they're done right for the right reasons. But Dean milked Dimebags name to the point they even sold practice Amps with his name, that was just ridiculous.

  • @noodlehair6566
    @noodlehair6566 Před 16 dny +5

    As much as I am an Alexi fan, his guitar models are WAY WAY price gouged. The best value for money Alexi models are the ones that have Edwards stamped in the headstocks

    • @kenjicarlos8402
      @kenjicarlos8402 Před 3 dny

      Edwards is MIJ…. Idk why you’re dissing when the most expensive LTD’s aren’t even made there.

    • @noodlehair6566
      @noodlehair6566 Před 2 dny +1

      Have you read my comment? I'm not dissing anything/anyone. I just stated a fact: That his guitar models (among others) are price gouged mainly because he died regardless of where it is made. I also stated that the Edwards models are the ones that have the best value for money if you don't care about what it says in the headstock. Not sure where the diss was in my comment lol

    • @kenjicarlos8402
      @kenjicarlos8402 Před 2 dny

      @@noodlehair6566 mb brother my first read wasn't right lol

    • @norwish6940
      @norwish6940 Před 8 hodinami

      The reason the ESP Alexi models cost so much is because they’re Custom Shop guitars, meaning they’re handmade by experienced luthiers, and mot factory made.
      If it was factory made it would cost less, but since it’s handmade, and using someone’s time and energy, and also taking longer to make, it’ll cost more.
      It’s like buying a blanket or whatever factory made vs handmade.
      Handmade things will always cost more, they’re more finely crafted, spends someone’s time, energy, resources, that’s just how it works
      And his death hasn’t determined the price at all, look at the ESP Kirk, Hetfield, Cavalera etc models, they cost way more and they’re all alive, they’re all CS as well

  • @renexuz1
    @renexuz1 Před 16 dny +2

    I 100% get the reason the EVH thing rubs people the wrong way (frankly I just find the guitars bland as his music) but at least its tiny bit less a creedy company just taking a dead dudes name due to how heavily Wolfgang seems to be involved. Though the guitar brand being named EVH is kinda dumb, kinda hard to rebrand lol (Was Van Halen Guitars (VHG) taken already?)

  • @TheCadegoodspeed45
    @TheCadegoodspeed45 Před 15 dny +1

    Fun fact! the scumbags at Dean guitars are still making razorbacks and stealths! So cool of them to say fuck it we will keep milking because our company is garbage.

  • @notorioustampaton
    @notorioustampaton Před 16 dny +2

    What do you think about companies doing tributes to custom made guitars?
    For example:
    - Harley Benton making a look alike of Prince’s tele.
    -Eastwood making Jerry Garcia guitar clones. As well as all the smaller luthiers that make Jerry clones (way better than Eastwood).

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Před 16 dny

      They're not putting the artist's name on them (and Prince's HS Anderson Mad Cat was a literal stock production guitar [and the Mad Cat copy is also Eastwood, and I rather like mine, especially as my lone T-style]), and the Wolf and Tiger Jerry Garcia models are a way to get them into players' hands (since they're selling at the typical $1300-1500 range higher-end imports sell for). Everyone and their brother makes Tele copies (and the HS Anderson/Hohner Mad Cat was itself a Tele copy), and if they got a license from the luthier who designed the Wolf/Tiger, I don't see any issue (and if there isn't a license/trademark/design patent on the design...eh...grey area).

    • @notorioustampaton
      @notorioustampaton Před 15 dny

      @@Kylora2112 the Jerry clones from Eastwood are not nearly as nice as a lot of the smaller luthier ones. I feel like e Eastwood Jerry clones remind me of like little model ones blown up to full size.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Před 15 dny +1

      @@notorioustampaton I mean, I don't expect anywhere near as much from a $1500 factory import as I would a $5k build from a small luthier. I have a Sidejack XII and a Mad Cat, and enjoy playing both of those, though I've never played either of the Jerry clones (not a Deadhead and the features just don't appeal to me).

    • @notorioustampaton
      @notorioustampaton Před 15 dny

      @@Kylora2112 oh no there’s small luthiers with lower prices than that. You could even go the Phred route, but that’s probably the cheapest there is.

  • @benjimusicandgamimg9773
    @benjimusicandgamimg9773 Před hodinou +1

    Coming back to this, have you seen Dean have taken dimes name off of the Razorback, Stealth and Rebel and selling it again?

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 53 minutami

      Yeah the slime green MLs with the Seymour Duncans are pretty shameless.
      There is also no conceivable reason for anybody to ever buy one, becauss the used market is flooded with actual Dime signatures

  • @mikeanaya117
    @mikeanaya117 Před 3 dny

    To be fair though, how can guitar players, veteran and new expect more people to crave learning how to play guitar if icons aren't still kept relevant, despite being dead for a long time? These are guitar heroes that have and will always inspire people to play guitar.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 3 dny

      Keep them relevant with things that relate to them, not random BS they're not alive to sign off on

  • @frippfink
    @frippfink Před 15 dny +1

    4:05 - 4:19 If i remember right the big reason he stuck with Dean ML's was because they were the cheapest and most common guitars he could find at pawn shops. Whether the album art ML's would have gotten the dime stamp of approval is something we'll never know but its not out of the realm of possibility that we would play them

    • @vodkavolvo5529
      @vodkavolvo5529 Před 13 dny +1

      Album art may not even have needed his approval just the record company.

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 Před 5 dny

    I’ve always thought the Relic series thing, at its core, was actually a pretty good idea. Give someone a Frankenstrat, but in one solid color, then they can stripe it and paint it however they want. However, I can see why someone who isn’t into DIY or doesn’t want to modify their guitar would see this as a blatant cash grab.

  • @WithCarePlz
    @WithCarePlz Před 16 dny +3

    The “Yardburst” Jeff Beck LP that Gibson is trying to sell for $20k.
    Jeff Beck was known for playing strats, and he’s been dead for a while.
    It just seems like a disrespectful money grab.
    BUT. If the late artists families and foundations benefit from it- so be it. More power to these companies, as long as the families are okay…
    I personally love my heroes as much as anyone else does- but I’d never in a million years buy/play a guitar that is a copy of somebody’s personalized guitar down to their stickers or wear etc. To me it’s kind of “spiderman undies”. And unoriginal.
    I would maybe buy a small little desk display sort of copy of The Wolf or something to shout out my guy, but that’s where I draw the line.

    • @ADM1500
      @ADM1500 Před 15 dny

      Jeff Beck played Les Paul's too. Don't know if he eventually played strats only at some point, but there's enough pics of him donning a Les Paul from his younger days at least.

  • @seanmcbride331
    @seanmcbride331 Před 14 dny +1

    In regards to the point about the Alexi Lahio signature. What you mentioned there is the ESP custom shop (cause they have their fucked branding between LTD E-II and ESP) version of the Alexi greeny which at this point isnt in production anymore due to ESP doing away with that style of Alexi model and replacing it with the Hexxed and Ripped models, Even before he died they were about 5 grand due to being custom shop and with inflation being what it is thats why its stupidly expensive though i'm sure they have added a small percentage onto it since his passing. I agree with a lot of your points however about what i've called the death tax, as always a great video with well thought out points. I just wanted to interject a completely asinine and snobbish point to i guess "justify" the price difference between the ESP and the E-II

  • @MetalGuitar911
    @MetalGuitar911 Před 15 dny

    You made some really nice points here, but sadly people/companies will milk it wherever they get a chance to make money. Anyways, cool content brother, Cheers from India \m/

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 Před 12 dny

    I’m so glad he’s monetising on monetising now. Get em kid. Live the dream. You can’t teach cool but really that’s awesome and I’m glad you’re able to work on the industry. Props.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 11 dny +1

      Can't teach cool, but I can certainly teach cool people the right skills! 😎

    • @kkupsky6321
      @kkupsky6321 Před 11 dny

      @@sixstringtv1 I can’t wait to see more reviews. That’s my Steve buscemi impression haha you’re awesome man keep up the great work.

    • @kkupsky6321
      @kkupsky6321 Před 11 dny

      @@sixstringtv1 actually you should teach a cool class… you would slay. Can’t bottle that. Imagine if charisma came in a ketchup bottle and you tap the back but none comes out and you come along and say “hold the bottle at an angle”. wtf am I on about

  • @riccardocuoghi2071
    @riccardocuoghi2071 Před 16 dny +1

    Well, what about Jimi Hendrix with the signature Fender and Dunlop/mxr pedals. A strat and pedals he never used but someone had the idea to put his name on

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před 16 dny +1

      His sister is a master of milking his name for all it is worth.

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 Před 12 dny

    I mean. Rock star funerals must be expensive. Especially if you’re buried with a geet. Makes me think of the Hendrix estate.

  • @dam7ri
    @dam7ri Před 11 dny

    Valid points. I'm still confused as to how Fender can make a right-handed Jimi Hendrix signature model. Gibson did the same with a Tony Iommi SG.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 11 dny

      That one I can get behind as long as the base specs stay the same, since otherwise you'd be marketing an expensive instrument less than like 10% of players

  • @Victimesty
    @Victimesty Před 14 dny

    Talking about live artist: Kerry King made a switch to Dean right as he retired, possibly even after that. Those signature models felt weird, as there was no connection, no one saw them played live.

  • @thomasaghotmail
    @thomasaghotmail Před 13 dny +1

    Dude I couldn't agree more!!
    I AM a fan of Van Halen's and I do not believe he would've EVER signed off on ANY equipment he didn't have a hand in designing or hold a patent for. 100%.

  • @Cosmic-Spanner
    @Cosmic-Spanner Před 5 dny

    Big EVH fan here. I wouldn't touch his frankenstrat with a bargepole. It looked like total F SSS, except for the stripes.

  • @chuck3370
    @chuck3370 Před 16 dny

    Honestly I do agree the new EVH relic guitars are cash grabby, but I have one and it’s super solid. I just wish they would’ve put a full pick guard and set of pickups on it and made it like a charvel with EVH specs, but for the money they cost on Reverb they’re definitely worth it for that style of guitar. Not as bad as the cheapy dime guitars and so on

  • @thesisterfister2984
    @thesisterfister2984 Před 9 dny

    I support companies making guitars that the artist would actually want to play. Like the new Dimebag Guitars will be quality instruments that will carry the legacy

  • @ericv7720
    @ericv7720 Před 13 dny

    There are a lot of things with Dime's name that are a little sketchy. Take the SD Dimebucker, which is an L500xl in standard humbucker housing, going for $120. You can still buy the L500xl that he used from the Bill Lawrence USA site for $65!

  • @natrixxvision6997
    @natrixxvision6997 Před 16 dny

    0:06 Yes BUT……while he was still alive Allan Holdsworth designed a set of pickups with Kiesel Guitars. Kiesel still offers them as an option for their 6 and 7 string guitars and they’re amazing.

  • @5CylMedia
    @5CylMedia Před 10 dny

    you forgot the new cliff burton wah pedal

  • @nine9whitepony526
    @nine9whitepony526 Před 11 dny

    Shit man this is a GREAT VIDEO.
    You made a video for the very thing I've been thinking and saying for a long time. Rock on.

  • @lucasfigueroa1602
    @lucasfigueroa1602 Před 13 dny

    not guitars but Peavey has been milking both EVH and the 5150 amp with the 6505 and literally shitting on him saying "there are many imitators", which is double the bad

  • @DragDealer
    @DragDealer Před 15 dny +1

    Well let’s not even talk about Slash 335 lol never saw him with one until they released it in 2024 😅

  • @xbmpr
    @xbmpr Před 7 dny

    The Far Beyond Driven ML looks like a guitar I’d see at a pawn shop and immediately disregard, and I love Pantera. Just paint the guitar, the graphics always look cheap, cheesy, and you’d immediately get tired of looking at it. Scratch that, only weirdos who throw away money would like it for “wall art”

  • @VARVIS_
    @VARVIS_ Před 14 dny

    Great video 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @martinclayton7260
    @martinclayton7260 Před 14 dny

    The thing is that people want the guitars, and the companies are just fulfilling a need!

  • @intracosm
    @intracosm Před 12 dny

    I guess you forgot about Wolfgang’s involvement with the EVH brand.

  • @Doggywoggydog2k11
    @Doggywoggydog2k11 Před 15 dny

    Also worth mentioning that Alexis green came out several years before he passed away

  • @femboy-gardevoir
    @femboy-gardevoir Před 15 dny

    Honestly, I've never liked the Razorbacks. Not just because the shape is (in my opinion) the worst Dean shape ever (Cadillac or die), but also because it was basically profiting off of Dimebag's death THE SAME YEAR HE WAS KILLED. I'm an atheist but if there is a god, thank them that the Abbott estate made Dean kill off the Razorback.

  • @adriengrayson1369
    @adriengrayson1369 Před 16 dny +4

    Pink is gay hahahahaha, nice video man. U really know how to go throw a topic

  • @TheGuitarTheory
    @TheGuitarTheory Před 14 dny

    Wolfgang is clearly doing a lot behind the scenes, so I think Wolfie had input before these guitars were released. I think Eddie would approve.

  • @PainkillerX12
    @PainkillerX12 Před 16 dny

    The worst part in the Dimebag drama is that a few months after the contract was terminated, Dean came back with a floy-rose equiped ML that looked SUSPICIOULSY like the "Dean from Hell" but without the stickers and the all the relic, just a suspiciously close shade of blue... Dean Guitars or should i say Armadillo guitar company/holding/idk what corporate shit they fit on have no limits and no decency... Oh and they brought back the dean vengeance from the grave, like "yeah in 2021 it was a false start but now you'll get them !" and they look great so I wishlist one on Thomann... to see it delisted again before it was even marked as "restock in X weeks"...

  • @colten2524
    @colten2524 Před 15 dny

    is that a valvestate 8100 i see?

  • @bry2132
    @bry2132 Před 4 dny

    Thankfully dimes estate is working with the original dean ceo ( not the one using his name for money ) are making a company purely for the fans

  • @Caderfixloxa
    @Caderfixloxa Před 15 dny

    I don't know how that works, but I think this is legitimately a non-issue, specially if their family are getting a cut. That Dean thing was greasy as hell

  • @_hide_-lb1gk
    @_hide_-lb1gk Před 16 dny +1

    The used 5150 price increasing after his death was ridiculous.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 16 dny +1

      To be fair the used market is out of the manufacturer's control but yeah lmao

    • @_hide_-lb1gk
      @_hide_-lb1gk Před 16 dny +1

      @@sixstringtv1 🤣 we're all to blame for selling and buying it.

  • @deansnutz3442
    @deansnutz3442 Před 7 dny

    Tom Petty. I don't know if it's his daughters or his widow, but someone's really trying to capitalize of that man's hard work.

  • @DavidPerry-ui2qz
    @DavidPerry-ui2qz Před 13 dny

    “That guy from that 2 1/2 Men Episode” seriously?!?! LOL 😂

  • @DavidMadeira29
    @DavidMadeira29 Před 16 dny

    I wished you could find a still roadable used and non-Dieselol Mercedes-Benz for less than Seven Grands without any stranger guitar in the trunk. I don't know. Namastè.

  • @davidozab2753
    @davidozab2753 Před 12 dny

    As someone who first learned guitar when Van Halen was at their peak, I lost count of how many of us striped our guitars with electrical tape. Without the stripes it ain't Eddie

  • @levysgaycorner352
    @levysgaycorner352 Před 13 dny

    I respect deans approach at it

  • @sauce_aux
    @sauce_aux Před 12 dny

    Remember kids EVH is just outsourced Fender. Avoid the amps, they’re time bombs. Just go get a used 5150 or 6505, if you want that tone. If you want to sound like Van Halen, you should get into Soldano, cuz that’s what he was plugged into, behind the stacks of peaveys

    • @murasame3508
      @murasame3508 Před 2 dny

      Source for the saldano thing?

    • @sauce_aux
      @sauce_aux Před 2 dny

      @@murasame3508 backstage access and it’s pretty well known amongst the tech community

  • @magnificentsteve8192
    @magnificentsteve8192 Před 16 dny

    Blue reflective coating on glasses is not for youtubers, you want the good old cheaper green one.

  • @jr2904
    @jr2904 Před 16 dny

    And Dave Mustain is just that dude who auditioned for a band on The Drew Carey show hahaha. On topic, I hope the families of the passed away artist's are getting their share, at least.

  • @LoweCommotionStudio
    @LoweCommotionStudio Před 2 dny

    Peter Green's guitar is more famous than Peter Green will ever be, and in a much shorter time.

  • @skyghostly7182
    @skyghostly7182 Před 3 dny

    The Kurt Cobain Jaguar/Jagstang always left a bad taste in my mouth

  • @SidWalter
    @SidWalter Před 15 dny +1

    Am I in the 0.02% of viewers?

  • @SLAYER.APO.VOLO.
    @SLAYER.APO.VOLO. Před 10 dny

    You should check out that garbage bass pedal they made, claiming to give you Lemmy's bass tone. Not even close

  • @kennethdarlington
    @kennethdarlington Před 13 dny

    Why bother?
    If there is a demand - here is the supply.

  • @captainhowdy3104
    @captainhowdy3104 Před 15 dny

    dean absolutely diluted dimes guitars and his association w them. he designed the razor back shape and they just slung those things everywhere…..not to mention that cheesy budget thing w his face slapped on it for 100$

  • @ozzynotwood
    @ozzynotwood Před 15 dny

    09:57 : SSTV Hilariously savage 😂

  • @randomstul7664
    @randomstul7664 Před 15 dny

    Wolfgang van halen is in charge of evh

  • @hughjanus5518
    @hughjanus5518 Před 15 dny +2

    I see many guitars come stock with the d tuna and my immediate question is, Does it come with a trem Stabilizer? because the d tuna is worthless without a trem stabilizer.

    • @troyskinnard1393
      @troyskinnard1393 Před 14 dny +1

      I’d say most of those guitars have a surface (too) mounted FR. With those, a stabilizer isn’t needed

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 Před 12 dny

    Eddie Van Halen has a son? Forreal I just learned.

  • @_comma_period
    @_comma_period Před 10 dny

    dear people from china, god bless you all.
    them people does incredible replicas of washburn dimes,
    deans, etc.
    i was shocked when i saw a literal ken lawrence replica on ebay from china.

  • @MetalGodMasino
    @MetalGodMasino Před 8 dny

    Razorback altrough being cool as hell (i own one), Dimebag was supposed to debut it. until he got murdered.

  • @theneer-do-well3240
    @theneer-do-well3240 Před 15 dny

    Buddy, that far beyond driven bolt-on ML is way old news. nobody even liked that one. the tobacco burst TRUE far beyond driven ML is actually highly sought after, among other of his much more iconic guitars. But you wouldn't know because you aren't a dime fan.

  • @williamwyrmshard
    @williamwyrmshard Před 12 dny

    I agree with almost everything except your information about the Alexi Laiho Signature is not correct. The Alexi Signatures have been in production since 2006 (2005 if you count the prototype model I own) and of course continued past his death. You are also unaware the going price for an ESP Custom Shop it seems and is incredibly disingenuous to compare an E-II to an actual Custom Shop, they are nowhere near the same. I would do more research in the future.

  • @Gawnfall
    @Gawnfall Před 15 dny

    They need to make a signature guitar for me when i die. Haha A Gawnfall guitar

  • @BillyTheKidsGhost
    @BillyTheKidsGhost Před 16 dny +1

    Them's fi'in words right there....

  • @Lucas-dm7xo
    @Lucas-dm7xo Před 16 dny +2

    Orange juice

  • @Earthshaker1965
    @Earthshaker1965 Před 15 dny

    If people buy it, they'll sell it to them.

  • @Rattlehead467
    @Rattlehead467 Před 15 dny

    the Alexi ESP is a custom shop guitar that's why $7,000

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  Před 15 dny +2

      Right, that justifies paying 7K. Some guy built it by hand.
      I have fully custom built guitars made entirely by hand with no CNC that sell for 4 grand.

    • @Rattlehead467
      @Rattlehead467 Před 15 dny

      I was just saying that’s why it’s that price not that it’s justifiable
      Not enough context I guess

    • @bwa_8
      @bwa_8 Před 15 dny +1

      Made by hand is a non-argument. It can apply to the work of an elite luthier, or the DIY project of my 13yo.

  • @Johnny-vt4dv
    @Johnny-vt4dv Před 15 dny

    Charlie Sheen is a real GOAT for bringing that Edward In Haler guitar dude on to his show so that his Band got a bit more Exposure🫶🏻