What if all 30 Athletes Competed Together? The World's Strongest Man 2024
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3 canadians in a top 10 overall. Jf's comps clearly build the best athletes out of all the national comps. His events are brutal
Liz with the inspirational shirt. "DON'T"
Is it a reference to something? I don’t get it
Don’t cheat?
That's the WSM shirt
"Our TV owner told us DON'T improve"
Just kidding 😂
@@jetsum haha shots fired
@@jetsum don’t improve, don’t go towards the light, live in the dark ages 🤪
I am a Tom Stoltman fan but based on events in Final and how comfortable he looks- I can’t see anything other than Mitch retaining his title.
I agree and that's when tom moves up the gears, I do think it will be tom, mitch and trex. Would love to see luke up there but the guys are on there game this year
I think the wheel is going to loose Tom a lot of points unless he’s massively improved and that will be what separates him and Mitch
How did that go 😂
That didn't age well
Top 3 guys in each group were the top 15. That's some even groups. Wsm got these right this year.
The stone off jipped Williams, Foito, and Schoonwinkel, but they're all top 12 guys and those stone off wins do prove a point of strength. No complaints from me.
Gutted for Bishop. I hope he heals up quickly. He was smashing it.
Looking forward to the finals!
Fojtu was the only guy with an actual points lead within their group that lost out on the stones, so I'm a bit disappointed for him but like you said stones does show a point of strength, and for everyone else either 2nd place got through or 3rd place was within half a point and so I think it's fair as a tie breaker
@bruuhhhh 100% I bring up schoonwinkle due to overall points being in top 10. But no physical way of him and derwinsky getting in. Pavlo would be the odd man out based on overall score.
Again can't complain with this line up. Just fun to speculate.
Yeah exactly, it's not like the stone off is a new concept. It is unfair but you can use it to your advantage like the Stoltmans & Bish seem to.
@@Klettnation ah yeah I see what you mean, I definitely agree with you
Still can't believe Ondra Fojtu. He had a chance to win the group regardless of Mitch being unbelievable at the Car Walk. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. He settled for 2nd and he is OUT. Usain Blot lost races, didn't finish races and got disqualified. ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. Very poor decision.
The 3 Canadian's still in the top 10, with Mitch and Tristian in 1st and 2nd. Let's Go!! 🍁🍁🍁
Love the video but a suggestion for future spreadsheets: in the Columbus where you list each athletes heat and their placement in their heat, I think you should have color coding to for each group so it’s easier to visualize which heat is doing better or worse.
Very interesting. Shows how dominant Mitch, Tom and Evan were to all come top 6 overall without even doing an event
Crazy performance from Eddie Williams must be so disappointing not passing to the final. I always thought of him as a lesser strongman and more of a showman, that is just there and he proved me insanely wrong
I want evan singleton to podium in the finals. I like that guy.
He is having a great comp and getting points in every event I say he gets second. He is good at everything like Hoop, he could win as well. He has won many big shows
I like the idea of one big group with top 10 advancing. Stone off used as a tie breaker as needed.
The stone off is ridiculous the way it is done now. I think the trouble is that it's a lot of logistics and setup to have on hand "just in case people tie". They would rather just keep it as it is logistically, but it's pretty dumb.
Why even have them advance to another round, then? If you have one big group, the winner's the winner, no?
@@staceygram5555 I like the idea of qualifying events. You weed out the weaker athletes, so the top ten are legit. Not so much this year, but in previous years, there were some that made it through that were lesser athletes because they had a weaker group.
@staceygram5555 Exactly my thought, seems a bit pointless at that point
@@staceygram5555 No, it's like a standard cut-off system. They've done it before in other strongman comps and other sports. Could either have it so you carry on with combined scores or reset for the final. Advantage would be you don't continue to have those not challenging for the top just taking up time on more and more events. Main disadvantage is that it's bad for TV. Can't do the multi-episode format that works so well with the heats.
The final event of the heats should also count towards the final to force all the athletes to do it. They take the times of the 10 finalists and distribute 1-10 points which carry over to the final. If it's a fast event like a car walk, there's no real advantage to going last and you avoid having those dead rubber events that are still an issue even with the stone off.
Good shout. The stone off has essentially not solved anything. Just added more controversy. Would much rather see any tactics and event skipping left to the last actual event, rather then one event earlier.
That's actually a really good idea, if WSM wants to get engagement on that event.
I like where your heads at, but points carrying over seems over the top. Maybe the position on the final event determines the order for lifting to start the final? In this case the first guy to go in the giants medley is Evan, then Tom, and mitch, etc.
Mitch getting the top spot without even really doing his best event is just nuts
Wsm selection committee deserves a 👏 well done for doing such a good job of balancing out the groups this year
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I believe the groupings are outdated and do a disservice not only to the competitors but to the spectators. You have competitors that completely lay down at some of the events because they know they don’t need the points in their grouping, and you have other competitors that no matter what they do they will not garner the points needed in order to make it to the final so they also lay down. That is not the best way of picking the Worlds Strongest Man and is certainly not the best format for the spectators. If you want the competition to appear on television in a live format, or at worst a one day delay, then change the methodology wherein all athletes are competing against one another in the overall rankings in the preliminary events, and then your top 10 competitors from the overall rankings are the ones that go on to compete for Worlds Strongest Man. Just my two cents.
Thank you so much Liz, bored on long train journey and had just watched all wsm content!
This is my favorite video you guys do for WSM. Those globes look really cool for the Viking press.
You both continue to produce the BEST Strongman content out there. You prove the point that there should not be heats and that WSM should get rid of the stone off and just do 6 events for the qualifiers. If the stone off has to stay, then it should only be used for determining 10th place if there is a tie. Anyone have a thought on this?
Always love these comparison vids, TY guys!
Thank you for the great content!
Did not predict trey in top 10 for loading and bottom 10 for deadlift, wow
Great video Loz & Liz! Always love to see the full athlete comparison. DON'T stop being awesome!
Can't wait to tune in for the final over the next couple of days! Keep up the great work Loz and Liz 💪😃🙌
Thanks for this! We love your stats, Liz. ❤
This shows how good the groups were balanced . Top 10 in reality all in the top 13 including the 3 who lost out in the stone off.IF I am reading it right. Also very clever of them to get the guys good at certain events in the same groups. Sad for Adam Bishop, that man never has any luck at WSM.
So predictions for final? Very hard for us causal fans as I don’t have a lot of info for some of them. Mitch, Tom, Evan, Tristan, Matt, Pavlo, Luke, Aivars , Austin, Wesley.
Luke gets 7 th place again? Top 2 fairly sure of but after that there should be some great battles Pavlo , Matt, Tristram, could change order.
Thank you for making the WSM experience ( spread sheet ) enjoyable.
This is one of my favorite videos that you do!! Thanks for all the info, you two are the best🔥💪🏽
Thank you for the great work and awesome coverage of worlds.
This time of year always makes me so excited and this is one of my favorite videos you do. I wish worlds did do the heats this way.
Love this video. Interesting facts and figures. Thank you.❤
I'd love them to do this format for a future WSM, even if they do different waves of 6 athletes instead of groups but still have an overall leader board, and the waves change depending on how you scored on the previous event. Imagine how much more people would push if you knew an event win gave you 30 points. Nobody would take the foot off the gas and we could see big changes event to event as athletes showcase their strengths
Greet video
Amazing to see how GREAT Eddie did.
Trey was impressive for how quick he came back. Hope he isn't pushing too hard too fast and gets another injury.
Love the stats. Would be good to get a leaderboard after 4 events as well to add to the fun.
I love this type of analysis, it's so fun! Thanks guys!
Was trying to compare in my head off of strongman archives thanks for this auntie liz and uncle loz!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I think this annual analysis is my favourite one of all. It causes mayhem 🤣🤣
I'd really prefer to see a heat with all the guys competing in one group. Best 10 win.
There are always a few guys who seem to sneak in while others who greatly outperform them in tougher groups are left out. Best of luck to the guys, either way.
Love your work Liz and Loz. Looking forward to seeing how WSM plays out.
Love these videos where we get the matchup across the whole field of athletes!
I did an interesting piece of research and scrolled through each athletes previous competition performances for each event in the final and compared them. Obviously not everyone has a record on the same apparatus, weights or events, but I did the best I could to compare them. Here is what I calculated:
Tom 48 points
Mitch 46 points
Luke 36 points
Matt 32 points
Evan 30 points
Pav 29 points
Tristan 28 points
Austin 27.5 points
Aivars 27 points
Wesley 26.5 points
Let me know what you guys think.
Brilliant shirt, Liz. I love it so much.
A few guys did'nt try, but Rob Kearney did say in your interview he would do the fast's car walk.
WSM -- still got it!
Liked seeing what the situation would be if they all competed at once..very interesting..
Who created that amazing spreadsheet?! Dedication at its finest!
This is a great look!
that viking press apparatus is a concussion waiting 2 happen. very dangerous design.
5:54 is a bit scary
I've always thought that but there have been remarkably few injuries over the years.
So anyone wanting to see actually footage, Myrtle Beach Sun News youtube channel, has like a 3 min video of some of the guys doing the actual events and they have some interviewers from the athletes as well too. Just thought someone might find this info useful.
Great vid 👍
These are awesome comparisons
Unreal work rate from loz and liz
Would also be good to see a spreadsheet with the standings minus the car walk if some athletes didn't try there 😁
love these vids!
This is really intersting but it isn't necessarily a fullproof comparison, because many athletes will perform tactically based on the groups they are in, conserving energy where needed etc.
Edit: Sorry I realise this comment sounds a bit like I'm being critical of the video. I love to see these overall performance comparisons. I was just airing my thoughts. Much love ❤️
We do point that out several times in the video :)
@@BigLozOfficial I'd expect nothing less from the strongman news dream team 😁😁😁
Tristian Hoath is an absolute beast, definitely earning his late call-up
The video I needed on the rest day
The stone off needs to go, 2 of the top 6 guys overall got knocked out because of it.
Williams and foitu both deserved finals spots.
This is what I have been waiting for. I would love if they scored like this, poor Eddie Williams.
If they're not streaming WSM, how are Loz and Liz watching it?
Special stream for coaches?
So. Much. Content. Can't. Stop. Watching.
I don’t know what to do with myself today without having to watch your watch along party lol
Awesome video!
Love the video and all the WSM coverage. Very interesting to see how it would go as such as one big group.
I love to see the full 30 line up comparison. It's to bad we can't see the full 30 with the finals events.
It is great that they all do the same events in qualifying nowadays so we can make the comparison
Between Tom and Mitchell and who wants it the most good luck both athletes 😊
Honestly I want to see this
@ Loz, Liz... Did Ondrej make a mistake not going full out in the stone walk? And giving it a full go at the car carry? Could he have won the group and pushed Mitch into the Stone Off?
If they want it to stay competitive in the groups, make the first "event" of the final their overall placement if all the groups were together.
In this case, Mitch starts with 10 pts, Tristian with 9, Ragg with 8, Tom with 7, Evan with 6, etc. Tom and Evan wouldn't have pulled up because finals points were at stake, and no way was Mitch making a gentleman's agreement on the Webster Stones.
I'd be interested in a comparison between this year's finalists, and finalists in previous years. I've seen a few comments saying that this is a weak year because there aren't many stars. My hunch is that the talent this year is strong, if you look at the numbers, and people are reacting because they don't recognize the names. But maybe I'm wrong.
I agree with you, and sometimes the realisation of how strong a final is comes with hindsight. We had an influx of new athletes in 2016 (and no Zydrunas) and people said the same thing then. The three new athletes in the 2016 final were kielsikowski, Martins, and Janashia… so no one would look back on that final now and consider it weaker.
I think the competitors who will get into the final get into the final and the ones who are the middle are the ones who struggle given the current group system. I was looking at the group results as whole competition anyway
I do the same analysis, and it is always illuminating.
If you go back the last couple of years, and run the same analysis, you'll see Bobby Thompson always gets screwed over.
You forgot Kevin Nee.... he must have been 20 or 21 when he competed back in 2005!
As someone on the autism spectrum I have to put my money behind Tom stoltman.
Best strongman channel bar none
YAY love these
Nice to see Tom cruising through. He didn't have to go all out on any event by the looks of it
Thanks for this - Will be close between the top few I think - I suspect No podium for Luke (I hope he does). Hoping Tom gets #3.
A lot of people I know thought this was going to be a two horse race between Mitchell and Tom. Not the case at all with so many athletes performing well.
The 10 athletes progressing to the finals werebin the top 13 in the overall comparison - which has it's obvious limitations. Goes to show that WSM did a good job with the groups.
Now that all the groups do the same qualifying events the top ten overall best scorers should go to the finals. No stone off and all competitors do the 6 events. The top 5 finalists doing 1 less event is too much of an advantage.
Shame about Rauno’s mistake on the car walk set up, coming last in his group really doesn’t reflect the performance he put in
Really appreciate all the excellent coverage. You two are becoming THE faces of strongman.
Liz gets to dust off those auditing skills
From the few competition shots I’ve seen this year it looks much better for fans, last year was horrible.
The T-Rex for podium finish this year
Luke should have had 14 reps in viking press
Round of Applause for Liz and BigLozOfficial for making WSM2024 so entertaining *live*!
I wouldn't want to call Big Loz a nerd I must admit.
I like these type of videos
love u 2
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Yeeesss feed the inner strongman nerd!
Allez les Canadiens!!!🇨🇦
Just can't take this seriously with the Car walk not excluded
When do the finals begin?
Tomorrow
Evan's nana .... I'm still dying.
Both Aivars and Evans above Bish overall despite Bish finishing second in their group?
Bish got injury after car walk and cannot do stone off, Evans was replaced him
Just 5 80s kids, most are from 1995 this year 😁
why do they not go off of the total score of all 30 ? and just get the top 10?
what happed to adam bishop?
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As you noted, these are relatively pointless as some guys coasted through events, made "agreements", did as much as they had to, injuries, etc. Which def skews it, but interesting nonetheless