Point Zero: Where All Roads Start
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2014
- tomscott.com - @tomscott - At the front of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris sits a mostly-ignored marker. Mostly ignored, that is, until one person arrives and takes pictures, at which point everyone crowds round it and ruins the shot.
"This is Notre Dame, one of the greatest sights in Paris!"
*Directed by: Robert B. Weide*
not funny
my 32 likes beg to differ
Augusto Pinochet Very funny
_Kawaii_ _Motorrad_ I agree
What?
The 420 Mile Marker in Colorado kept being stolen so they have a 419.99999 marker instead now.
Graviton1066 I think that would make more likely to be stolen
I'm genuinely surprised I haven't noticed it. I've driven past it dozens of times. Gotta keep an eye out the next time I'm going to Kansas, I guess.
I'd rather have the 419.99999 mile marker myself, it's more entertaining because of its ridiculousness
*MARlJUANA*
I have a marker in me home?
welp, this video has a much different tone now...
Why
Cheese-it
Because Norte Dame caught fire.
You don’t remember from quarantine. But protests are the next thing.
So sad
Yes
Mfw when the Notre Dame burned recently and this was in my recommended
:(
F
Ur mom geiy lmao
Ahahahah
alexsie48 wtf
There is a common saying on the disk “All roads lead to Ankh-Morpork”. This is incorrect. In reality all roads lead away form Ankh-Morpork it’s just that people usually go the wrong way
Which Discworld book is that from?
@@cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967 moving pictures I believe
@@BarginsGalore Oh okay.
The Discworld rules!!!
A Kevin in the wild😂
Started from point zero now we here.
Now at gun point
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polymerizedrecords
That comment did not age well!!!
@@Thomas_Bergel yup
thank god that building has survived so long without catching fire
bless you, my child
but it catch fire
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Little bit late on the news it caught fire and was burned to the ground
Wait.....
I recognize that grass, see you soon at 0 0
Fit
"The oldest anarchy server in minecraft"
Ahh, I see you're a 2b2t player of culture as well?
@@marinap5345 I recognize those cloud patterns. See you soon.
So can I call popbob for the grifing
0:34 Translation: You like the birds, -don't- feed them!
- By feeding them, you make them dependent.
Étienne Murase something something metaphor for the welfare state
polygondwanaland I think humans work a little differently than birds
I feed the birds in my garden to -stop- them eating all my fruit.
If you feed them, they gather and you can hunt them more easily
Lots of ppl feed birds in their garden at winter that is kinda essential for the birds to survive the winter...
The equivalent point in the UK is in Roy Grove, Hampton, TW12, marked by a bronze cannon. This is the start of the primary baseline for the Principal Triangulation of Great Britain, carried out by William Roy (after whom the street is named) in 1784, on which all subsequent Ordnance Survey maps have been based.
But roads in the UK don't use that.
Many thanks for that. I now prefer lat/long ;)
It's a wild project the Principal Triangulation, never knew what the start point was though!
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Romans in this whole video. I mean, the Milliarium Aureum was sort of like a precursor to this things.
There is this saying, "all roads lead to Rome" or something
Point zero in Japan is at Nihonbashi (日本橋, which means Bridge of Japan) in Tokyo. There is a viaduct on top of the bridge (Shuto Expressway route c1) and even on the viaduct there is a sign saying this is the start point of roads
Technically it is the end-point of all roads. During the Edo Period, Tokyo was called Edo. The Shogun required Daiymos to spend part of the year or every other year in Edo. That bridge was the entrance to Edo, by which most of the Daiymos passed.
@Redfern Pitcher You mean the point everybody tries to get away from?
@@daerdevvyl4314 nope, depressed kid filled with inferiority complex
@@Pratyush2124 so the depressed kid filled with inferiority complex everybody tries to get away from?
@@nin2494 I was talking about the one who commented
When I went last year, I found it interesting so, I took a picture and you're right; everyone else started taking pictures and asking with a confused face "what is it?" "I don't know. I saw she took a snap.".
Switzerland also has a "Point Zero" for its coordinate system, namely the old astronomical observatory in Bern (for the old system). To avoid easting/northing confusion, the point actually does not start at 0,0, but at 600'000/200'000 (old LV03 system). Unit is meters, and with that the true point of zero lies somewhere near Bordeaux, France. The new system (LV95) has a different origin point, but is similar in size to the old one, just that the old origin point now lies at around 2'600'000, 1'200'000, again to avoid confusions.
The US has a couple of things similar or related. Look at the streets in Utah. They're laid out on a Cartesian plane. Every town has a center street and a main street. One runs north-south and the other east-west. Address end up being points on a grid. Like 384w 26n street. The one exception is Salt Lake City where all starts at the Temple. The other is the highway system. Odd numbered highways run north-south and even numbered run east-west. And that's something you might not of known.
That's the case for a lot of states as you move further west.
Grand Rapids, MI has something similar - everything counts outward from the intersection of Fulton Street and Division Ave. Most roads have names, rather than numbers, but addresses all indicate how many blocks you are from one of the baseline roads, and have a NW, NE, SW, or SE quadrant designation.
Typically mile markers tell you how far from the next state you are in the US
The highway numbering is nationwide. North-south interstates are all odd numbered and increase from west to east, with I-5 on the west coast and I-95 on the east. East-west interstates are even numbered and increase from south to north, from I-2 in Texas to I-96 in Michigan. Also, numbers that are multiples of 5 are major, important interstates that usually run from one end of the country to the other, while others are usually shorter or less important, and some only exist within a single state.
Also, triple-digit highway numbers don't follow the system, they have their own system in which they relate to a one or two digit highway. They are officially "spurs", but many are ring roads. For example, interstate 285 is officially an auxiliary of 85 (even though it also intersects I-20 and I-75 twice - suppose they had to pick one!) as it circles around Atlanta.
In Spain we have it on the capital, Madrid, on the center of the town, on Plaza of Puerta del Sol, in front of the old post office, as the same, known as Kilómetro 0, with the mark "Origen de las Carreteras Radiales" (origin of radial roads), setting the starting point for 6 national highways.
The Charing Cross marker in London is used to measure the distance to London from wherever you are. London is expanding so the CC marker denotes the centre of the city.
Glasgow also has a CC and it serves the same purpose.
You said it is not Redame, but what is it?
That's funny.
I really heard "not Redame" and couldn't understand for a moment what he means...
Maybe it's blueame.
Notre Dame
On fire.
Thank you for reccomending this to me, CZcams. A week after it burned down.
The fire of notre dame terribly upsetting
Brazil has one in every capital of their states.
So, there's one in Recife, in São Paulo, in Rio de Janeiro, in Curitiba, in Salvador, but not in Belo Horizonte, Goiânia and Brasilia, because these ones were built like Washington DC - they were created not naturally, but rather they were created to be the capitals.
In Italy we say "All the roads take to Rome", because Romans were addicted to roads and built them to travel across the peninsula (so technically all the roads "are from" Rome, not the opposite as we say).
Tom, the end of this video is what got me to subscribe to your channel :)
I don't know why your old videos have started showing up in my feed, but I am enjoying them!
Well CZcams, aren’t you a twisted little troll - recommending this to me after the devastating fire last week.
And I thought I had a dark sense of humour you have me beat 👏🏽.
what fire
It's relevent
Damn its already been a year, feels like yesterday
damn it’s only been a year and a half, feels like 3 years
In Russia point zero is the Central Telegraph in Moscow. (Just something you might not have known)
Even though there is a monument for point zero somewhere not far from Kremlin, still traditionally everyone uses Telegraph building for this purpose.
P.S. Kremlin is actually around 1 kilometer away from telegraph.
Километровые знаки же считаются от начала дороги. Или я что-то не так понимаю и это для другого?
MrPaukann это не про километровые знаки, а про расстояние до Главпочтамта... Ну или в России это Главпочтамт, в других странах это другая метка и обычно её зовут нулевым километром.
Ваш комментарий я понял, я имею ввиду зачем это нужно. Что в английской, что в русской википедии написано, что это точка отсчёта дорожных расстояний, но дороги же отмеряются от их начала, согласно ПДД.
MrPaukann нет ну это больше для разных служб чем для меток на дорогах...
MrPaukann ehm sure
All roads lead to Rome, no wait, Paris, no wait, London, no hang on notre Dame!! I knew I'd get it eventually.
In Canada, road sign distances are to that municipalities' city hall. If they lack one, the distance is measured to a point called the City Centre; determined by calculating the geographic centre of the built up region.
I knew it as we have a Zero Point in Spain too. In "La Puerta del Sol" in Madrid.
In Canada, there is a highway called highway 17 that goes all the way across Canada front cost to cost and there is a marker at the exact middle of the highway
welcome to highway 17. it's safer here
I wouldn't call Highway 17 safe. Not with all the zombies, antlions, rollermines, Combine soldiers shooting at you, and random parts of the road collapsing into the ocean. It's safer than Ravenholm, but not by much.
From "cost to cost"?...
Actually, no.
Hwy 17 stops at the Manitoba border in the West and near Québec in the East. The designation Hwy 17 is from the Province of Ontario. Hwy 1 is the Federal designation that goes coast to coast and overlaps Hwy 17 in Ontario. Mile zero for the TransCanada is in Victoria, BC.
In the Philippines we have what's called Kilometer Zero, a landmark to where all the roads will have to count from. Also it is where our (unproclaimed) National Hero's Monument is at.
In Romania is also a marker, in Bucharest, for km 0 (absolute center of the town) that's used to measure the length of the roads that are going there.
When I was a kid I had a job as a land surveyor and every state has its own witness Stone .starting the whole process township range sections are all measured off of this one point and I used to have to go to that point and start my measurements not every time only when things got tough.
The uk does have one! There's one in London for the uk in Trafalgar Square. You should've gone there!
Australia has a sandstone obelisk in Macquarie Place Park that is kilometer Zero for all roads , and platform 1 of Sydney central station is kilometer zero for all railways.
Here in Recife, Brazil, we have a square called "Marco Zero" (Point Zero in portuguese), and every street of road is counted from the side closest to it (streets) or by the actual distance of it (roads).
Not even 5 seconds in, and this video hasn’t aged well
Floors are inside, if your outside it is called the ground. Silly man.
“Your” is a determiner, if you mean “you are” it is spelt “you’re”. Silly man.
Qbe Root hehehe you got me.
I love you.
What about a platform outside, raised above the ground? Standing on it, is it not the floor?
BenchCo I think that's called a platform.
Western Canada kind of has something similar. It’s a system which is only used in rural areas, but distances are measured by how far north of the 49th Parallel they are, or by how far west or east of the Principal Meridian, which is an arbitrary north-south line in eastern Manitoba. So although nobody ever calls it that, we have a Point Zero where the Principal Meridian meets the United States border.
Another odd thing is that there’s a mile of land and then a 66 foot road allowance, then a mile of land again. So when the roads are numbered as “Mile 1, Mile 2, etc. The distance between them is really 1 mile plus 66 feet (from the center of one road to the center of the next.)
Massachusetts has something similar to a point zero (but not quite the same, as it denotes how many miles something is from Boston, but generally isn't used on roads). It's the pinnacle of the golden dome on the State House.
I think you are thinking of Boston Stone (www.celebrateboston.com/sites/boston-stone.htm) which is in the North End, not the top of the State House.
Distances in the UK used to measured from post office to post office which is why we don't have a point zero. Of course these days that doesn't happen, but it did once upon a time.
In France, distances between towns and cities are measured from the church. Well not every little village had a post office at the time, but all had a church.
My heart sank, I wasn’t expecting to see Notre Dame, especially after the fire last week.
Glad you got it on video prior to it’s near destruction.
Heartbreaking, and so preventable.
As above so below :)
Thanks for all your truthfull wisdom of discovery.
This is a relic from time in more ways than one
He always wears a red t-shirt.
Sometimes underneath a grey hoodie.
Sometimes underneath a coat, too
Its actually light pink
@@Scamper10 well I have news for you buddy :)
@@myleslos9658 What
@@Scamper10 get your eye sight checked
The ''real'' Swiss Point Zero is in France ^^ technically. But is based on the Point in Bern with the coordinates 600000/200000 (m)
Here in the Netherlands we have something similar. It is not in our capital, but rather in a more centrally situated city: Amersfoort. And it is _inside_ a church (de Lange Jan), so when I went to see it one time, it I couldn't because the church was closed :)
thank you for providing notre dame properly
Been there. Stood on that very marker.
congratulations
Tom, I love your videos! So well scripted, presented, filmed & edited. There's one thing that I just don't understand though, and it's your affinity with making comparisons or references to the US in almost all of your videos?
Is it perhaps a target market approach?
I live in Canada, and I have been watching your videos for almost 2 years now, and never once do you mention my country. We used to be part of the commonwealth countries, I'm surprised that you're not familiar with any of our historical locations or countless other items worth mentioning. Check us out, hoping you might get a chance to do some material here for your channels.
Britain may not have a point zero but we do have the two half buried canons marking Major General William Roy's base line for the Ordnance survey from which the OS grid is taken and used for all future maps (until GPS that is)
this is a great channel, thanks!
in the US the numbering starts from the middle of each city.
***** I ment like house addresses and whatnot. not things like highway and trail markers.
***** yeah. The nubering changes when you change citys but when you're in one city the adrees is like # north or south from the center of the city and # east/west of the middle.
Define in an unambiguous way: "middle". It is was this mark is doing.
Depends on the city. For example in Salt Lake City the numbering starts from the location of the Mormon temple downtown. But in Grand Junction Colorado the numbering starts from the Utah Colorado border.
+Zashra
I’m fairly sure the numbering in Colorado starts on the Utah-Colorado border, then runs east towards the Kansas border. Not sure how other highways that run thorough the state use the numbering system, but if driving I-70 from west to east, there’s definitely a successive number system.
Idk if I’m incorrect though, but I’ve lived in CO for years and this is just what I’ve seen.
"This is Notre Dame."
Oof, too soon
Too soon? It happened almost a year ago
Salt Lake City's Point Zero is very important because our address system is based like coordinates on a grid. Our Point Zero is at the northwest corner of South Temple and Main Street. It is just on the other side of the wall surrounding Temple Square.
And in London, at Hyde Park Corner, standing all alone on the north side, is Apsley House. It was the residence of the Duke of Wellington after Waterloo, and its address is “No. 1, London”. And of course, all distances to the west of London are measured from that point.
next time your in the US, you should go see the four corners monument
mynaymiscansur
+Kiefac has dank maymays Wow you're right! Your name is cancer, and so is your spelling.
your. your. your *YOUR*
a "ur" would've been better
"ur" is not gramatically correct. "Your" is correct.
Watching the new Assassins Creed trailer (outside Notre Dame) and then this, quite a coincidence :D
I love in the US state of Idaho. Idaho has Intitial Point, with is located on top of a volcanic butte in the desert south of the town of Kuna. The entire state uses that point as its zero for surveying.
There's a 0 km stone in Budapest, Hungary from where every road is measured.
You can google it, it's also a sculpture.
The UK though has the Greenwich meridian.
Is that comforting?
Paris has the Paris Merdian with the same purpose until Greenwich took over.
You said "From which all distances in France are measured from". That's either too many "from"s in one sentence or me being too pedantic.
soberhippie 'Whence all distances in France are measured' ;P
From from all distances from France from measured from.
@@daerdevvyl4314 stfu, stupid kid
@@Pratyush2124 😁
Chicago has a zero marker at state St. & Michigan Blvd. for its streets, but the "Number One Datum" is located at the NW corner of LaSalle St. & Monroe St. All heights are measured from that datum.
I have been there twice and did not know that. Hopefully at some stage I'll be able to visit there again and look at it.
There are actually two mile marker zeros in the US: one in D.C. and one in Key West
0:08 for the flames?
Ah crap, I missed that one. I was in Paris several years ago and of course, I visited Notre Dame (who could have known that it will burn down several years later), yet I have not seen that spot as I had no idea it even exists. My home town has such a marker as well and all distances to that town are measured from there. So when you are on a road and it says the distance to the town is ..., they mean the distance to that point and not the distance to the outer town border.
Buenos Aires has a monolith called "Kilómetro 0" where all national roads start. It's on Congreso Square, close to a replica of The Thinker by Auguste Rodin.
This *was Notre Dame in Paris
Fletcher Castle-Bray it’s still there dumbass
RIP Notre Dame we will miss you
Not really
Not really
Yes really
There is a marker atop Mt. Diablo in California where a lot of surveying work was done from and referenced back to.
The distance to and from Dublin shown on modern road signs in Ireland is to the point halfway between the 2 middle columns of the entrance of the GPO on O'Connell Street.
That's a comparison, not a metaphor
A metaphor is a comparison without using "like."
I can't imagine surveying that mark. There has to be old plans that need to reference that point. As a land surveyor, I can confirm that lasers do not go through people. Every person in that area would have to leave before taking a shot on that disc, which is technically a survey monument. Even in the days of GPS, I only used a transponder once. We still need to go out in the world and find monuments set in the year 1 before any construction, renovation, border disputes, or anything else happens.
Although, I work here in Massachusetts, whereas Europe probably still uses rods and links to measure everything.
Says the guys in the country which uses an outdated measuring system :p
number can never be outdated. just people grew forgetful.
A pound cake will always have a pound of all the main ingredients. one pound becomes 0.453592 kg your math system is so illogically with non even numbers.
It is very logical: just use 500 grams (aka 1/2 kilo) instead of one pound. You'll even have more cake to eat. Just make sure your cooking pan is large enough ;)... By the way "your math system is so illogically"?
'illogical' = adjective and 'logical' = adverb. They are not interchangeable... Just sayin'...
Yes, Europe's backward... >.> You indoctrinated yokel.
This one is the coolest yet
Good. I haven't finished them all but I'm going to call it off.
Well great, i happen to watch this after going home from my visit to france
*Tom:* "This is Notre Dame..."
*Me:* "Not anymore."
My partner, after watching this video with me: "I know very few things"
I didn't know that, it's kinda impressive. Now that Tom's explained it, and that I think about it, I guess that these things had to exist, that there had to be a dot on the map where things were measured and calculated from.
In the US, we do have regional survey markers, like the one in Oregon which is the 0,0 point for the township/range grid that covers all of Washington and Oregon. See "Willamette Stone".
Here's here after Notre dame burnt down?
Double D 747 4 years before
Literaly every one who sees it and is not a time traveler
Everyone
I love that a british guy learns me things about my town ^^
Assombrance Andreson *teaches
sure ...
Assombrance Andreson I'm pretty sure they were correct.
Joo Jingle O.o
(who ? about what ?)
Le peanut man, about your muffin recipe.Assombrance Andreson
the marker in washington is used for all legal descriptions in the Usa for real property. if in any doubt of what land you own, you go by township range description and will find it
I know that all distances to Scarborough are measured to the back enter entrance of Debenhams on Somerset Terrace. And all distances to York are measured to York Minster.
Yeah but you have Greenwich and wee all use it to measure the World not just one country.
That's a line, not just a point, and it doesn't start in any capital city. If it's not marked then that's not a problem, but USA Corps of Engineers most certainly places markers and surveyors plant iron stakes at the corners of property boundaries if requested.
@@HighestRank It's actually 2 points: Longitude zero and time. Latitude zero is theoretical - created by human and the other point you need is mean sea level - go to Newlyn, Cornwall for that.
0:44 true the UK doesn't have a point zero for ourselves - we have the prime meridian.. the point 0 for the entire world. :)
In Spain there is also a Point Zero called Kilometre Zero in La Puerta del Sol, Madrid
Fun fact, the US uses NGS survey markers randomly placed that have their Long/Lat coordinates on them.
Sometimes they're along roads, near light poles or train tracks, and sometimes they're kind of in the middle of nowhere in relation to the nearest intersection.
Since 2001, even the US has a Ground Zero.
I rate this one 9/11
Canada does too.
Rude...
Rude...
Edgy
And yet, the French still say, "All roads lead to Rome."
The Dutch do as well ^^
No, the French would say: "Tous les chemins mènent à Rome."
Great video Tom, very interesting! :D
I did not know that...and now I do. Cheers, mate!
this video did not age well
ikr
Point Zero, 2014: Starter for road marking
Zero Point, 2020: fortnite
In Switzerland it's actually somewhere off the coast of France so that no x and y coordinates are the same to avoid confusion.
Correction. The United States has a few of these. The most significant one that I can think of is the Point of Origin in the city of Detroit, laid down in 1806. That was the point that created the township system that stretch across multiple States. There is even a Wikipedia article on it
Every comment now: *oMg tHe nOtRe-dAmE bUrNt dOwN 1 liKe eQuAlS oNe dOlLaR tOwArDs rEbUiLdiNg tHe nOtRe-dAmE*
@Pineapple Head XD yes ik
damn... I got to see Notre Dame about a year before it was burned down on a school trip. It's a shame so much of it got destroyed
Darn it. Why didn't I watch your video before going to Notre Dame. Awesome
The Uk does have a OS point zero, just north of Salisbury. Mudge’s buried cannon.