If it is not purely madeup, why wouldnt armenia grant people entry to the documents related to this so called genocide but rather try selling their lies without backedup evidence?
It really is like the planets aligning, all the other ones are at least a full second and then Frakes pops in at a figurative blink of an eye saying it
That is the best one. The rest are all very formal and professional, but that one is J-Frakes just chilling with the boys, laughing at the practical joke they all played on you. (0:29)
But she caught me on the counter (It's false) Saw me bangin' on the sofa (this one was invented by a writer) I even had her in the shower (pure fiction) She even caught me on camera (it's a total fabrication) She saw the marks on my shoulder (it never happened) Heard the words that I told her (it's false) Heard the scream get louder (it's an urban legend that never happened
what i love is, is that if you look at the replay analytics, the "most replayed" point is that the start, and that level maintains all the way through. no-one is skipping through the video 🤜🤛
Haha ,as a Turkish who doesn't believe in such bullshit, i admit that is a nice one. Though, the case is kinda funny, too: TUR: There was war. People killed each other. Calling it a genocide is an overstatement. And Armenians lived in this land for cenutries so did we decide killing them out of the blue? ARM: The Genocide happened. TUR: Fair enough. Let's investigate each others' archives so we can see if we find anything proves either of us' point. ARM: No. TUR:Then, genocide didn't happen. This conversation has been a loop for a while. And most ridiculous part is yet to come: They claim 2 million Armenians died. But according to Armenian Patriarchate there were 1 million Armenian living in Anatolia at the time. Whenever I recall this, it gives me a couple of chuckles. :)
@@Attachments. *SIGH* Coming from somebody else with diagnosed clinical depression, this isn't stupid and actually made me exhale from my nose in hilarity for once. What's stupid is using somebody's condition like a badge.
@@fledgling5616 so gaslighting is basically someone making you call into question your own memory through manipulation. Like someone says they'll be home by 9 then they get home at 11 and say that they said they'd get home by 11 when you confront them.
For some reason, I keep watching this video over and over with the same giddy glee as a little kid hearing his first poop joke. I think there’s something out there like this for everyone, and if you look hard enough, you too will find the magical humor that will transport you to your toddler days of side-splitting laughter for next to no reason, over something as absurd as poop or Jonathan Frakes’s cheese-eating grin while he tells you you’re wrong.
It is a surprisingly effective way of dealing with the prosecution. A court proceeding is sort of like what you see on television lol A barrister will shout bullshit in your face and try to trick you into acknowledging it as fact. "You're wrong" "That never happened" "That's a total fabrication" It's like kryponite.
@@thepuzzlebox6620 I highly doubt you've been in a court then. If you tried using those excuses to any competent prosecution all they'd do is switch to whatever evidence they have to call you out on (after all, you wouldn't be in court if they didn't have any evidence would you?) A defendent or a defendants lawyer would get shredded in a matter of minutes. Nice try though
The dedication it takes to trawl through that series and cut together these specific bits in a montage, simply for the joy of random internet people, is commendable.
on a 'serious' note i find the funniest the smile one his face hahahaha it's so funny how his words and face somewhat contradict each other. also he's got some natural charisma as a host
The playfully smug satisfaction which comes with confirming/denying the truth of a story which the storyteller knew from the start unlike those listening, delivered with the characteristic tone and restrained grin of such statements, is vicarious/contagious like laughter. His tone also signals the relief of some anticipatory, 'holding-your-breath' tension arising from the uncertainty of truth, which could also be vicariously satisfying in the hypothetical, invested viewer's point of view. Finally, rapid, sudden repetition of short disconnected clips/phrases is absurd and thus funny, especially when each individual clip/phrase conveys the same basic meaning (Jonathan Frakes smugly saying 'pranked ya lol' to you while suggestively looking at/approaching the camera with a restrained grin) in slightly different ways. Trust me, I have a PhD in Internet Armchair Psychology and Humorology. Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk.
I remember this show. Even funnier was when the story was supposedly true, and he would say something like, "our sources tell us that this happened somewhere in the northeast." It was always something geographically vague.
@@Whole-Milk i also try this "vague-way" as i was in school. My teacher to me: "Are you a Politican or did you work for the media?!?! ....no you'r not!!!!....so stay by the truth and the facts!!!!!...." Years later, now today....truth....facts....and make believe....lies....all the same....funny 'n crazy at the same time. Each time i watch the news, read the news-paper, i hear J.F. say "No, it was......."
"Jonathan Frakes gaslights you for 47 seconds"
Your profile is my *nightmare*
I see the 5th light now
Riker speaks for 47 seconds
gaslights this gaslight that lemme just light my gas grill for god’s sake
THANK YOU for using the term "gas-light" properly.
Person: **Talks about Armenian Genocide**
Turkey:
cenk uygur:
Cenk Uygur : OF COURSE!!!
If it is not purely madeup, why wouldnt armenia grant people entry to the documents related to this so called genocide but rather try selling their lies without backedup evidence?
"we created it"
@@sisqomisqo2019 #whoosh
“Sir, did you commit the murder?”
“Not this time.”
"It's an Urban Legend, that never happened"
“This one was invented by a writer.”
We got ya
It never happened
It's fiction.
The plain "WRONG" one gets me every time 😂
For me its the "it's a total fabrication!" xD
Not this time.
Its the best one
I just watched for the first time in a piss mood and the WRONG one made me LOL. ❤️
It really is like the planets aligning, all the other ones are at least a full second and then Frakes pops in at a figurative blink of an eye saying it
Johnathan “the corner of a table is more comfortable than a chair” frakes
Underated comment. But those are always the best haha!
I believe that is called the "Riker maneuver"
I believe he has a very bad back injury, and standing for a long time is painful for him, hence the Riker Lunge and the Riker Manouver.
Okay, but it is, though.
he has back problems IIRC
Picard: There... Are... Four... Lights!
Riker: Not this time!
thevisionary2007 just watch this episode again 😂 poor Picard
Nice one, mon capitan!
Lol
Bless your heart for this.
Never happened, Picard!
that "We got you" made me burst out laughing for some reason
That is the best one. The rest are all very formal and professional, but that one is J-Frakes just chilling with the boys, laughing at the practical joke they all played on you. (0:29)
“So should I ask her out? She’s clearly into me”
My brain:
*It's a total fabrication.*
It never happened
Its a total fabrication.
Do it!
@@simsimw not this time
That "It's a total fabrication" was so aggressive.
I know right? I feel so personally accused, like he’s condemning me through the screen in a message that took 25 years to get to me. Haunting stuff.
lol Such an exaggeration. You sound like you'd cry to constructive criticism.
He’s joking smart guy
Really nailed that one “Rohn”
He was upset that the show ran out of black blazers
When i tell Jonathan Frakes my dating history.
We made this one up
It's fiction.
It’s an urban legend that never happened.
Lol
We made it up
My grandfather: Tells me a story about the adventures he's had in his youth.
My mother:
Confronting your parents about your trauma
Your parents:
I love how satisfied he looks, he just loves knowing he bamboozled the audience
Sgorbackor McGlurg it never happened
not this time McGlurg lol
WRONG
A total fabrication
not this time
"This one was invented by a writer" is my favorite line
The little turn he does at the end really makes it
Even funnier since I am a writer, so that basically just means I lied.
My favourite is *"N o"*
0:17
You're wrong.
I love how delighted he is to inform me I’m wrong.
But she caught me on the counter (It's false)
Saw me bangin' on the sofa (this one was invented by a writer)
I even had her in the shower (pure fiction)
She even caught me on camera (it's a total fabrication)
She saw the marks on my shoulder (it never happened)
Heard the words that I told her (it's false)
Heard the scream get louder (it's an urban legend that never happened
Sing it Shaggy!
Phenomenal comment
Caught in bed by wife.???
We got ya!
Criminally underrated comment. To anyone who hasn’t liked this comment yet, Mr Frakes would like a word…
195 likes, but deserves a billion.
My GF: **exist**
My alarm clock:
Stop..
Owie wowie
It's an urban legend..
that never happened.
It's fiction.
Ouch.
Biblical
The Avatar: "The Fire Nation has invaded the Earth Kingdom!"
Ba Sing Se:
M. night shyamalan: Alright we’re making Last Air Bender live action and it will do justice to the canonical work!
Everyone:
Toph: "Sokka, you saved me!"
*Suki:*
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
Does the fire nation acknowledge their war crimes?
😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Me telling my friends and family an elaborate, exciting story at a party.
My wife:
He always has such a twinkle in his eye as he tells you that you are absolutely wrong.
Person: **mentions the Tiananmen Square Massacre**
The Chinese Government:
It’s an urban legend that never happened
*knock knock*
*CHINESE GOVERNMENT OPEN UP*
It’s a total fabrication
This one was invented by a writer.
[XI JINPING WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION]
“Jonathan frakes destroys your confidence for a minute straight”
Not this time
47 seconds
Depends on the questions you're asking.
Tell that too the sentive woke SJW people that thinks Anime is a major problem.
It's false
Mum: _"You're handsome"_
Society: _"It's a total fabrication"_
Nice
The Government:
Person: What's the Nanking Massacre?
Japan:
"we created it"
nope they admitted it in 2015.
Not this time.
i came here to make this exact comment
CountKilroy Graf except it didnt happen
this one was invented by a writer
My grandma: Calls me handsome
Everyone else:
Pure fiction.
That never happened.
WRONG!
It's false.
Not this time!
I genuinely love that someone made this
what i love is, is that if you look at the replay analytics, the "most replayed" point is that the start, and that level maintains all the way through. no-one is skipping through the video 🤜🤛
When you want to select "Continue", but your save file was deleted.
Awesome comment!
This hits close to home.
All your hours of gameplay? It never happened.
Not this time
It never happened
hey remember that embarrassing thing you did a few years ago ?
me:
ARMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
SeOkJiN You mean being a fan of BTS isn't embarrassing enough?
Lord of Ash I think you mean being a BTS hater, they’re an embarrassment to society!
Pokémon Trainer Elio I'm not a hater. I just understand that people who obsess over anything is cancer
ok
Whenever someone starts talking about the yolocoast
Come on now, don't diss the you only live once coast.
Based on
I found this by typing 'Star Trek guy telling me I'm wrong'.
*THAT'S A TOTAL FABRICATION*
Person: **Mentions Irish Potato Famine**
British Goverment in 1840's:
Doesnt matter, we have the Turks to vouch for us as it was them who tried to help us.
*we created it*
@@jedihunter176 Not this time
Yeoooooooooooo
0:15
Person: **Mentions the Armenian Genocide.**
The Turkish Government:
Underrated comment
Your comment got stolen on reddit
las plagas - not the first time it’s happened, do you have a link?
Cenk Ugyer
Haha ,as a Turkish who doesn't believe in such bullshit, i admit that is a nice one. Though, the case is kinda funny, too:
TUR: There was war. People killed each other. Calling it a genocide is an overstatement. And Armenians lived in this land for cenutries so did we decide killing them out of the blue?
ARM: The Genocide happened.
TUR: Fair enough. Let's investigate each others' archives so we can see if we find anything proves either of us' point.
ARM: No.
TUR:Then, genocide didn't happen.
This conversation has been a loop for a while.
And most ridiculous part is yet to come: They claim 2 million Armenians died. But according to Armenian Patriarchate there were 1 million Armenian living in Anatolia at the time. Whenever I recall this, it gives me a couple of chuckles. :)
0:30 that smug smile while shaking his head ever so gently, then a smooth “not a chance.” God damn lmao
Whenever you tell yourself you're not good enough, this guy is here to tell you you're wrong 🙂
me: i actually think i feel pretty good today
my depression:
Gunk coming from someone with clinical depression, this is stupid and these jokes are overused copy and pasters.
@@Attachments. Are you saying that Gunk's comment is
a total fabrication?
@@Attachments. *SIGH* Coming from somebody else with diagnosed clinical depression, this isn't stupid and actually made me exhale from my nose in hilarity for once. What's stupid is using somebody's condition like a badge.
@@Attachments. congratulations! decreased ability to find humor or joy in situations is indeed a symptom of clinical depression.
Shame iz dank hey, it spreads awareness in a funny way. I go to therapy for my dysthymia, so I feel like I have an informed opinion
Mark: Did you hit her?
Tommy Wiseau:
This should have a million likes
I did not
It's fiction.
"Not this time"
Oh, hi Mark.
when someone brings up an embarrassing memory
"It never happened."
*My brother:* Hey dad, remember that ONE TIME I beat you at chess??
*Dad:*
#TrueStory ♟
Jonathan Frakes combing Quora.
Oh cool, I've always wanted to be Gaslighted by Jonathan Frakes for 47 seconds.
Just learned a new word, thanks.
At least it isn’t my mom doing the gas lighting this time.
What exactly does gaslighting mean? I’ve looked it up before and am having trouble understanding. What does it mean in this context?
@@fledgling5616 so gaslighting is basically someone making you call into question your own memory through manipulation. Like someone says they'll be home by 9 then they get home at 11 and say that they said they'd get home by 11 when you confront them.
LuigisNo1 Thank you!
"Did you hit her?"
Johnny:
Oh. My. God.
Becky.
Oh hi Mark
Very topical
"Not this time."
You tearing me apart Lisa 😕
It still never happened.
Me: Hey mom, remember when you told me you were going to get me that Lego for my birthday?
My mom:
Me: *gets into any kind of relationship*
God:
Not this time
"No way"
#Relatable
It's an urban legend that never happened
Rip samee sry
Doctor: "You have 47 secs to live"
Me: "welp 47 secs to live in denial"
"Thanks to denial, I'm immortal. "
-Philip J. Fry
Me: *surprise butt secs*
best comment.
*After 47 seconds are up*
Doctor: It's False. No Way. Not This Time. We Created It. Not This Time. No...
Riker in Star Trek: Generations: "Speak for yourself sir. Me: I plan to live forever!" With that same confident grin on his face 😂
For some reason, I keep watching this video over and over with the same giddy glee as a little kid hearing his first poop joke. I think there’s something out there like this for everyone, and if you look hard enough, you too will find the magical humor that will transport you to your toddler days of side-splitting laughter for next to no reason, over something as absurd as poop or Jonathan Frakes’s cheese-eating grin while he tells you you’re wrong.
I have a roulette wheel of these types of videos that will randomly pop into my head and leave me cackling at work
Bitwave...it never happened
Billie Jean: "You are the one."
Michael Jackson:
The kid is not his son
@Drumslav Czechisenko
Based?
@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 Not this time.
The kid is an urban legend that never happened
@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 The fuck do you mean?
My lawyer told me to watch this in preperation for a court case. Worked like a charm.
xD
What, uh... what was the case about
It is a surprisingly effective way of dealing with the prosecution. A court proceeding is sort of like what you see on television lol A barrister will shout bullshit in your face and try to trick you into acknowledging it as fact.
"You're wrong"
"That never happened"
"That's a total fabrication"
It's like kryponite.
@@littleredruri probably for being incredibly forward with a farm animal
@@thepuzzlebox6620 I highly doubt you've been in a court then.
If you tried using those excuses to any competent prosecution all they'd do is switch to whatever evidence they have to call you out on (after all, you wouldn't be in court if they didn't have any evidence would you?)
A defendent or a defendants lawyer would get shredded in a matter of minutes.
Nice try though
Truly a gaslighter connoisseur
another day in the office of CNN
mirror : you look pretty today
phone camera :
Lol so true😂😂😂
Yeaa
You’re winning in Mario Kart and on the final lap.
Blue shell:
Not a chance
It’s a urban legend, that never happened
I finished reading just as he said not a chance!
@@dboypompeyreturns perfect timing
We got ya
"Not this time."
-Gollum
Japanese men when you say the word "Nanking" in a 100 foot radius of them.
"No way "
Yeah, maybe a lot of Japanese men. But my brother writes songs about Japanese war-time atrocities, and he's a Japanese man. We need more like him!
I opened up 47 tabs of this video
It's a made up tale.
What is with the youtube suddenly tops up the comment from verified channel?
It never happened
Not a chance.
Not this time
Me: "I'm gonna go to bed early tonight!"
Jonathan Frakes:
LOL
I- I came here from your video haven't I-
@@leavonderlieth5781 maybe
@@pokemontrainerelio3648 well I'm pretty sure it was that way.. either way that video was damn funny ngl
This comment on the other hand is fact.
And then the Austrian authorities put Jonathan in jail for 5 years.
When any country is accused of war crimes:
Pov: Riker is denying allegations of war crimes in the neutral zone
That's not a point of view shot.
@@winstonmarlowe5254 PoV: You're questioning Riker regarding allegations of war crimes in the Neutral Zone.
"not this time"
Choked on a graham cracker. lmao
No, he's trying to convince the people in the alien mental hospital that he didn't kill anyone.
*When someone is genuinely caring and affectionate with me*
My consciousness:
This one was invented by a writer
_itS a TOtAL fABrICAtiON_
Not a chance
It never happened.
Fiction.
Damn you, commander Riker..
Parents when their child tells them they were traumatised by them:
47 seconds of Jonathan Frakes telling you you're wrong.
1 second of sad Gorilla at the end.
What is wrong w ppl?
Don’t worry, the sad gorilla is fiction, because it said so, a fabrication, completely made up, you’re wrong, it’s just an urban legend, false.
It reminds me of Harambe ☹️☹️
Harambe never happened. He’s fiction.
🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
The dedication it takes to trawl through that series and cut together these specific bits in a montage, simply for the joy of random internet people, is commendable.
It never happened, not this time.
You're wrong
It’s fiction.
A complete fabrication.
It helps that the show itself is quite engaging.
Looking at myself in the mirror: Damn I look good
My front phone camera:
Tumblr: “And then everyone stood up and clapped.”
Jonathan Frakes:
Perfection
@@pygmalion0451 do you notice you're the only one with no likes?
Where does this meme come from?
Bobby Ranger
“Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction”
It's a total fabrication!
The monke at the end having *fiCtioN" slapped on its face is the icing on the cake
Not a chance
rip harambe
It never happened
You're wrong
You are fake news
When family members talk about the time when I was "happy as a boy"
Prosecutor: *lists the charges against defendant*
Saul Goodman:
"THIS ONE WAS INVENTED BY A WRITER"
@@thatonea-hole XD yeah, he would absolutely say that
USA: Hey everyone in 1969 we landed the first human ever on the moon!!
*Conspiracy Theorists:*
Wrong, we think the moon is hollow, not that the moon landing never happened
There’s gotta be some type of psychology as to why this is so mentally pleasing to hear to the point of hilarity.
It's cause the explanation is made up and never happened.
no way
on a 'serious' note i find the funniest the smile one his face hahahaha it's so funny how his words and face somewhat contradict each other. also he's got some natural charisma as a host
The playfully smug satisfaction which comes with confirming/denying the truth of a story which the storyteller knew from the start unlike those listening, delivered with the characteristic tone and restrained grin of such statements, is vicarious/contagious like laughter.
His tone also signals the relief of some anticipatory, 'holding-your-breath' tension arising from the uncertainty of truth, which could also be vicariously satisfying in the hypothetical, invested viewer's point of view.
Finally, rapid, sudden repetition of short disconnected clips/phrases is absurd and thus funny, especially when each individual clip/phrase conveys the same basic meaning (Jonathan Frakes smugly saying 'pranked ya lol' to you while suggestively looking at/approaching the camera with a restrained grin) in slightly different ways.
Trust me, I have a PhD in Internet Armchair Psychology and Humorology. Thank you for coming to my TedX Talk.
@@brendan1871 😂 It checked out though
I go back to this video every now and then to remind myself that the escapist fantasies I have are nothing more than delusions.
The straight up “You’re wrong.” triggered me a little bit
Me: someone said you like me
Crush:
😂😂😂
Why didn't I think of saying this to my crushes in school FUCK that's an OUTSTANDING move
Stanley hutson “It’s a total fabrication”
Dude, because I said yes to that question from my crushes I ended up getting with them. If they ask that, they're obviously interested in you 😂
I've been binging the office and now it's following me everywhere
He looks so pleased with himself when he tells us we are wrong.
yeah total satisfaction
Daniel Ricciardo's Years at McLaren.
Jonathan Frakes:
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 It's a total fabrication
It never happened
This one was invented by a writer
@@MothDax Not this time. We made it up. It's pure fiction.
@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 It's fake, its fiction,
Its an urban legend that never happened
Alternative title: John Frakes gaslighting you for almost a minute straight
If it's wrong, Jonathan, I don't want to be right.
Anyone: There's graphite on the ground.
Dyatlov:
Pandaval9 lmao perfect
Dammit I didn’t scroll down far enough...
Its fiction , take him to the infirmary
Legasov: Reactor 4 has exploded, the core is exposed
Brukhanov and Fomin:
He's delusional
i like how the background music is consistent
i didn't notice that and now i'm terrified
This may be a little esoteric but it has Hallowed Bastion theme vibe from Kingdom Hearts
So is his suit
@@crapnuggets202 Haha
the most absurd boost of serotonin i have ever had, and i will never stop coming to this video for that
The title says 47 seconds but I spent 20 minutes of my life watching it
Same. It's a mood. No, scrap that. It's EVERYTHING.
@@Lime2014 nope, not this time. It never happened
Never happened.
@@nickbell9178 you got me. It was probably nearer 30 mins, tbf.
A similar event took place in the Pacific Northwest
Other cast members: Jonathan, you know you can sit on chairs normally?
Jonathan:
Actually he can't because of severe back injuries
@@billykennedy2420 wow. Talk about a joy kill
"not a chance" 😉
@@billykennedy2420 Pure fiction
@@billykennedy2420 That's an urban legend that never happened.
Reddit mods when they are presented facts:
*reddittors in general
We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly bamboozled.
Me: 2020’s gonna be great!
Jonathan Frakes:
I also feel like this one has been invented by a writer
"Not a chance"
We made up this one
It never happened
Hahahaha 2020 bad
0:30 Listen to that "not a chance". That's perfection.
My thoughts exactly 🙌🙌
Not this time
That smile lol. So smug.. Yet so correct lol
You're wrong.
Those eyes sell it lmao
0:17 gets me every time.
Chinese textbooks on what happened from 1958-1962:
Anakin: "I have the High ground"
Obi-Wan:
Corporate Billionaire that’s fiction
Grevious : "You are doomed"
Obi-Wan :
You fucked up. It was Obi-Wan who said that. It's why he Obi-Won that duel.
r/woosh
Not this time.
Picard: I played a flute and I lived my entire life in a small village
Riker:
Matt Crater awwww....and now im sad lol. Poor Picard...but he did get a flute out of the deal lol
I mean. He could still play the flute so something must have been true
Eli Jones he got two live two lives, it’s a great gift I’d think.
Picard: "It's still real to me, damn it!"
i dont get the reference
When Jonathan Frakes is your defense attorney
“It’s false” gets me every time 😂😂
- Padme: "Obi-Wan told me terrible things. He said you've turned to the dark side; that you... killed younglings!"
- Anakin: [this video]
Richard Pryor: deny, deny, deny!
Its a total fabrication padme
We gotcha!
@@akeyscoot9546 I mean, he'd be right
"Not this time" ☠️
The Last Jedi: *exists*
The Rise of Skywalker:
*THIS ONE WAS INVENTED BY A "WRITER"!*
I forgot The Rise of Skywalker even came out, I feel like I'm still waiting for the sequel to The Force Awakens.
Idiots: Say The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy Was Good.
Me: This Video
Person: Hey did you see that new Star Wars movie The Rise of Sky-
Me: 0:15
(I still love TFA and TLJ lol)
It never happened.
My dad when the paternity test came back positive
If I ever meet Jonathan Frakes at a con, I want to record him saying "It never happened."
Shepard: "Reapers exist."
Council:
ARACHNA “We created it” oh no
ME3 endings: exist
Fans:
Andromeda: exist
Fans: hey remember those ME3 endings that happened?
“We have dismissed that claim.”
I remember this show. Even funnier was when the story was supposedly true, and he would say something like, "our sources tell us that this happened somewhere in the northeast." It was always something geographically vague.
What was the name of this show
@@TheBmills415 Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction
Haha yes! I remember wishing I could get away with being that vague with school paper citations
@@Whole-Milk i also try this "vague-way" as i was in school. My teacher to me: "Are you a Politican or did you work for the media?!?! ....no you'r not!!!!....so stay by the truth and the facts!!!!!...." Years later, now today....truth....facts....and make believe....lies....all the same....funny 'n crazy at the same time. Each time i watch the news, read the news-paper, i hear J.F. say "No, it was......."
if a story is "true" it just means, that the story has been told somewhere, not that its proven lmao