Falcon Northwest DARED me to review the Fragbox!
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2022
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I watch your videos for two reasons. Number two is because I am fascinated with today's technology. I'm 67 and grew up with black and white television and rotary dial telephones. Number one is your unbelievable knowledge of the industry and your presentation. You make learning interesting and fun. I live on social security and can't afford to build a PC. I use an Omen 17 Gaming laptop with an Intel Core I7 9870h (I think), and an Nvidia 1660TI. I run Heaven Benchmark sometimes, just because of the amazing graphics (Score isn't that great), but it plays my games pretty well. I'm retired ( Glaucoma, Spinal Stenosis, Osteoarthritis, etc.) I can only see out of one eye, which sucks. But I still ride my Harley everyday, weather permitting. I spend 90% of my day at my computer and I have to say that, of all the videos I watch, you and your team outrank them all. As a side note, I raised three girls, by myself. Been single for 23 years now, which is a segway to the videos where you include your daughters in some of your videos. You're a great dad and an amazing person. Social Media can sometimes be degrading, vindictive, hateful and just generally ridiculous. You, my friend are a bright spot in a world of darkness and I appreciate that. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way. Good job.
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I remember wanting a Falcon box SOOOOO badly in High School. I completely forgot they existed, interesting to see the stuff they're putting out now.
Yeah, same here, I remember drooling over Falcon Northwest Ads in GamePro/EGM/VG&CE/GameFan/Etc. when I was in High School. Thought they'd gone out of business in the early 2000's
haha same. remember voodoo pc? I dont think they are around any more.
@@jimmywantwingy they are now known as HP Omen, bought out in 2006
You're making us feel old here guys!😄 We are.
I still remember their ads in old tech mags like Max PC, PC World, Boot & plenty of others. Their systems always felt "out of league" of the usual consumer but damn did I ever want one.
I’ve been a huge Falcon NW fan forever. The fragbox was a really amazing form factor in the 2000s.
It’s still the 2000s.
@@zeroman614 And that's really surprising. Especially for housing a 4000 series RTX card. And here I am rocking a mid tower/ATX build because smaller mini-ATX builds simply ran too hot. But holy shit at the pricing. $3K+!!!
the prices are bloated....5.5k for 13900k and 4090...
Here a 4090 is 1600+13900k is ~700.
So there is 3000 bucks for the rest, must be a hell of a Cooler, mb, PSU and case for that money...
@@TheOuterhaven It's a 3080 right?
So cool to see Falcon is still around and the Fragbox isn't dead.
Falcon Northwest has been around a really long time since the early 90s! They've gone through alot of company logo changes though. I remembered at one time they had a F-16 logo. They were always top notch SIs. Glad they're still around, Thanks Jay for checking this brand out!
Just the one logo change in 1999, actually. :)
Remember back in the 2000s when PCs were built like plastic space ships instead of glass RGB like today
I remember that, time fuking flies!!!😱
They've been around alot longer than 18 years, I remember ogling their custom paint job pc's since the 90's.
Edit: I'm right. They've been around since 1992
It's Jay that thinks we are still in 2010, stay young jay
Correct - we've been building gaming PCs since 1992! The FragBox model has been around for 18+ years, which is where Jay got that #.
I remember the Half-Life magazine ad something like "turn run turn run turn run turn run, play it on a falcon"
@@Falcon_Northwest Falcon Norhtwest wasnt joking about that customer service! Swooping in with that Numbers save!
@@Falcon_Northwest you should make a system or laptop based on the framework motherboard that way it can be user upgradable to the next generation of cpu or an AMD chip
That SX1000 power supply uses server power supply techniques to get that small and that high efficiency. That's a hell of a nice power supply.
Asus has a 1200W SFX-L unit coming out with titanium efficiency. They announced awhile ago so who knows when it will be available but I’ll be getting one. My Cerberus X case can support an ATX PSU but with the 4090 leaving me only 26mm of clearance in the front, can’t fit a radiator and fans so running my 5800X with a NH-D12L and a front mount SFX unit. I thought for sure my 750W Corsair platinum SFX would be enough for any card upgrade I did. Supported 2 1080Ti’s just fine. 1200w should mean I’m good for many years but who knows. Soon GPUs might pull 800W and CPUs 400.
@@jolness1 damn!
What is behind the snake-oil phrase “server power supply techniques”?
Last time I checked, servers used exactly the same components in the power supply, if not sometimes cheaper, compared to gamer computers.
They have a different form factor, sure. And some servers even have two power supplies, for fallback, if one fails.
@@fr3ddyfr3sh the main difference is a server psu doesnt care about how loud it gets and is expected to be running 24/7 at close to the max it can supply. If i remember correctly since gpu use 12v and many servers will have multiple of them, server psu are also expected to push more amps at 12v
@@jolness1 Idk, if they go much above 1600W or so I think they have to start using different power plug connectors in the US at least. 15A and 20A circuits are supposed to use different plugs where the 20A has one spade of the plug rotated 90 degrees. If you've ever seen outlets with an extra notch in one hole, that's why.
I guess we didn’t buy enough merch.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 good one!
It's nice seeing Falcon Northwest on more tech channels. I have wanted one of these for 2 decades now.
id give you one if i had tech channel
I would have thought that would be enough time to save up the cash to buy one
They had some pricey boxes, them and voodoo had some of the nicest prebuilts ever, to bad HP destroyed voodoo
So get one duh
Drive past there building every day here in Southern Oregon. Proud to see them represented, been in buisness for so long and such an under appreciated system builder.
When Dell bought Alienware and instantly became uncool, Falcon Northwest became the new cool computer company. I used to drool over their configurator back in the mid aughts. My cousin and I would go to their site and just see how expensive of a machine we could configure.
Falcon. For the man that already has a porche.
@@M33f3r You never experienced "Silicone Graphics" in the 90's then? They made work stations that did cost as much as a Porsche! This may be wicked for gaming, but for video production and what not you can get systems with 2 modern 16 or 32 core + processors on board, TB's of RAM, and like 4 graphics cards, AI accellerators... yet strangely in this moment I can't think of any of the few companies that make them, but talk about geek drool! 🤤
Alienware was never anything more than cool though, it was never great value. Fragbox seems to actually be pretty good value with how much work they put into it compared to AW.
New? Falcon has clear tenure over Alienware.
@@M33f3r Falcon. For the fool and his money who are soon parted.
I remember drooling over some of their build in the late 90's. Especially the paint jobs. I am glad they are still around.
Same. I kept seeing their offerings and secretly wanted one. Couldn't afford it though.
I've dreamed of owning a falcon since high school, and I graduated in 2004..... I think their longevity is a testament to the amazing product they deliver. One day.....
Same...just put one of these in my cart....dare me to pull the trigger haha!
@@DK.dk11 I dare you
@@itisbeamordered it 4 days ago 😊
@@DK.dk11 congrats! debating one myself, we will see if I pull the trigger
Falcon Northwest has been around since 1992. Back in the days when Computer Shopper was a thick magazine. Showing my age. Lol
Love how Jay just rolls from 1 thought to the next so smoothly he just mid sentence will pop something random b there and it's awesome
Falcon Northwest taught me how to do cable management properly ~20 years ago. They're still the best pre-built out there, hands down, and I'm happy they never sold out.
I have been using a Falcon Northwest Mach V (One of their older models) for about 6-7 years now. It still runs great! Just upgraded my Maxwell Titan X to a RTX 3070ti I got on black friday, and the performance is still incredible in 1440p!! Nice seeing them represented here, they make great computers.
Thank you!
I really like the smaller build machines like this, I have a SFF build that I would use for LAN parties (i haven't gone to any in years but it might be fun to start traveling to them next year). The fragbox has always been an amazing little machine!
falcon northwest make the best gaming PCs you can buy, you will have to pay a premium but if you want the best you go to them. i just got a talon with 13900k and 4090 and it's mindblowing. the case and airflow design are incredible
I remember dreaming of owning a falcon nw machine in high school in the early 2000s, its awesome to see them still making top notch builds.
Falcon Northwest is basically the original designer computer. I remember seeing one in person as a teenager and their paint is higher quality than some cars. I still remember that even 15 some odd years later. If you have money to spend I'm pretty confident you won't be disappointed with a computer from them. Get a custom paint job. Worth it.
Thanks for the kind words. We've moved on to digital UV printing from paint, as we can do so much more with it. But the automotive paintwork had a style all its own.
Yea i actually was Just looking at the config and noticed that. Kinda sad. It's interesting but I definitely prefer the paint, I imagine the custom painting and shipping just couldn't last.
i remember someone who worked at FNW and left only because he wanted to do more YT stuff and he summed up working for them as nothing but great. his coworkers were chill af and so was his boss. they only had one bad egg and no one really cared for him that much. and also their benefits were good
Falcon Northwest is a Name I haven't heard of in decades. Glad to see they're still around.
as a builder since the 1990s, ive been a fan of falcon NW for a long time because of their build quality and their want to stuff ridiculous hardware in smaller, slimmer cases with sleek designs. they are right up there with the likes of maingear and digital storm as far as quality. good crew there
Cool to see Falcon sending out a unit and still kicking around. I remember looking at their systems and wishing I could afford them like 10 years ago
My first real gaming rig was from Falcon NW, back when they used the silverstone cases. Damn she was a beauty! Company is class act all around. If you don't want to build but want high end, great option.
Thank you!
How are the prices though? I'll look for myself a bit later but would you say they're at the high end for SI's?
@@gmualum08 When I checked earlier, they were asking $3,900 USD for their base Ryzen configuration of
Talon chassis
3060 Ti FE,
Ryzen 7600x,
Asus STRIX X670-E Gaming Wifi,
2x16GB of Trizent Z5 RGB 5,600MHz,
280MM CPU liquid cooler,
1,000 watt EVGA SuperNOVA G6,
and a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 SSD.
If you're generous and incorporate the cost of a Windows key, the total would come out to around ~$2,000 USD, depending on the case, if you build it yourself. Insanely overpriced.
@@YogyBearhow else would he be able to afford jayz? What ever happened to 10 or 15 percent margins ? 100%!¿¿??
As someone shopping for a maximum performance, reasonably quiet, upgradable, durable, easily transported PC, from a trusted company with an excellent warranty, the FragBox is a dream come true!
I don't go to LAN parties, but I do travel between two locations Spring and Fall, and this looks perfect for my needs.
Thanks for the thoughtful, informative review, unboxing, etc. Much appreciated!
I was really excited to see you review something from Falcon Northwest. I have followed them for years and think they are the most intricate SI around. Their level of detail and care is amazing. Keep up the good work Jay!
Falcon Northwest is literally one of the GOATs of System Integrators.
Jay might want to check his math again. FalconNW has been around since 1992. That's 30 years old, not 18. I've been wanting the spare money to throw at a fully loaded FragBox since high school, and I graduated university in '08-09 school year.
Jay just got a # switched - The FragBox has been in production for 18 years now (more if you count when we used off the shelf cases), but Falcon Northwest is on year 31 now.
For me (ancient gamer, 80 yrs old, small fixed income) Falcoln Northwest is Lalaland, a place to go and dream and reminisce. I also remember them from "back in the day" now that you've reminded me, but I'm also reminded they're still way beyond my meager means with their "starting at" prices at least three times my total monthly income. I enjoyed this video a bunch, even though I know it's entirely irrelevant to anything I can do more than dream about. Glad to know they're still out there. Great work and thanks, Jay.
I remember getting an ad for Falcon Northwest in the box with Aliens Vs Predator 2 like 20 years ago. Cool to hear they’re still around.
The build quality looks insane, along with the design and layout. Very impressed.
Honestly, layout isn't that great compared to the NR200. Main difference is in the NR200, that void where the cables are bundled is where the PSU would be; it doesn't obstruct the exhaust from the GPU, doesn't choke out half the fans on the radiator, opens up the space above the CPU for an air cooler instead (Fuma Scythe 2 can fit in there), and positions the PSU to draw air in from outside the case. I think the only nice thing about this layout is the PSU's power switch is more accessible.
If you have a FE card there's even enough space to buy the ATX PSU bracket for the NR200 so you won't be as limited in PSU choices.
I remember seeing Falcon Northwest advertisements in Maximum PC back in the 00's. I always thought they had some of the coolest looking computers. However, I was a teenager with no money.
And now I am a older man that still can't afford the maximum build but always drool over their systems.
Man, I remember that magazine,I used to get it monthly with the included demo disc, those were the good old days
Older than 18 years my friend Jay. They were founded in 1992 and definitely remember looking at their products in the late 90s when I was building computers. They are one of the OG's of custom built gaming computers.
oh perfect, it still has the integrated handle! god i wanted one of these back in the mid to late 2000s back in the heyday of lan parties and internet cafes. this hits right in the nostalgia
I have a Falcon NW Tiki that I've been running since 2013. It still runs amazing. I replaced it with a custom build that I built when 30 series came out just because it had aged out but it was still lightning fast and problem free after 7 years given the hardware in it. I firmly believe FNW makes the best pre-built systems on the market.
Thanks Jordan!
For those that are curious all the builds Falcon offers start at $3+K.
I expected them to be expensive and as you confirmed, they are. I am confident you get what you pay for with these builds from them so the prices are justifiable. But just like a Bugatti would take me anywhere I want to go, I can only afford my Jeep Renegade.
Thing about it is though, $3k starting for a ryzen7 cpu and a 3060, in a mid tower. Seems a touch high for so mid upper parts
That's the part I don't like about the video, he praises the system for its performance and build quality (no question, it's awesome) but doesn't mention the 5k+ pricetag.
@@nikwilliams4047 could be a pricing strategy to funnel customers towards their highest end builds
I didn't know falcon northwest was still around. I used to drool over their PC pron in the computer magazines. Their stuff was so cool back in the day. Looking forward to this video.
I remember FalconNW vs Alienware before Dell tanked it. True OG, always been a huge fan. Glad to see a review on their products, I often feel they are a bit underrated these days.
I'm surprised you've never reviewed a falcon-nw they are like hands down the top of the top SI's as you call it out there. Stuff is top notch granted the price reflects that also.
Always liked Falcon NW, I love how detailed you can make a build and the case mods. They have done some amazing paint/transfer jobs over the years that look so damn good! :D
i was super close to being a Falcon NW customer about a year ago when i was in the market for top tier. Just bad market timing and a bit of luck in finding a steal on a prebuilt or I would be. I have no regrets though and after the amount of research i did during that time. FNW are at the top of my list for builders.
I've been asking them to bring back the Mach V, they should redesign it, remove the bays, and do it! The Talon is great, but the Mach V is legendary. :D
Thats really awesome! If I were to buy a prebuilt, I'd really consider this! Love the portability!
My first gaming rig was a Falcon NW with an Athlon 800 and a GeForce 2 Ultra. Loved it and was impressed back then. Following that rig I started building my own so I didn't look at any more prebuilts. Glad to see they are still around and still putting out a great product.
Falcon NW was one of the first that did automotive finish on their PCs from what I can remember. I absolutely loved their builds back in the early 2000s.
I love how jay is more excited over a mug and coffee beans than the PC itself lol.
At a base surface area level a 280 isn't that much smaller than at 360. The extra 20mm on the depth really adds up. That said obv rad perf and fin density is more important than SA. Just pointing out the 280 instead of a 360 isn't too extreme of a compromise as far as the cooling area you're getting.
I think the difference between a 360 and 280 is only about 10%
That packaging was fantastic for shipping. I felt cozy and safe just watching it.
I can't believe how entertaining your intros are. I'm always laughing and learning just 10seconds into your vids.
I've had several falcon northwest systems. They've always been spot on with hardware and support. A+
Thank you!
@@Falcon_Northwest you're welcome. I'd like a chance to review one of your PCs one day
Building your own PC has gotten almost as expensive as buying from these boutique builders these days, and a lot more hassle trying to source parts. Buying a pre-built from guys like these is now a pretty good option, and they use REAL name brand, high tier parts instead of random junk.
Exactly, I've used pc-builder services before, where I'd pick the parts but let them build it for me, maybe I need to pay like a 50-100 euro for their build service, but it saves me the hassle and let's say I need a previous gen CPU to update the BIOS before I can use the next gen, they'd already have that laying around over there for sure, whereas I perhaps wouldn't.
I don't like full prebuilds as they often use parts I wouldn't use or prefer something else or another brand, so this is great, also full prebuilds usually have way too high margins, there's a prebuild on a dutch site going for 6000 euros right now, but all parts combined assuming average price would put it just shy of 4000 euros, I understand they gotta pay man hours, but bruh... building it would take a day max, I don't get paid 2000 euros per day lol.
Are you kidding? I configured a tiki then went to parts picker. The parts picker was $2400 the Tiki was $4300.
What's cool is Falcon are taking the time to read these comments and reply to some of them 👍🏻
Amazing community Jay has going here with all of you. Often YT comment sections are a dumpster fire, but the positivity for tech and kind words here are wonderful!
This is a very nice system and I really appreciate seeing more SFF content. Thanks Jay.
So cool to see them still around. I loved my Fragbox I had 15 years ago. It traveled as my carry on for many years, even making it all the way to Thailand!
How long years wise did your fragbox last out of curiosity given the prices for them?
@@user-gz4ve8mw9l It still works now. It's the age of the CPU and GPU that age it out.
@@scottgould65 Good to know it still runs for you. For the price one would pay for a pc like this that is reassuring. I'm contemplating getting one down the road but not yet sold on it. Due to the high price tag and unfortunately I can't see the current configuration options. As they are evidently sold out on their website until May right now.
I bought a NZXT monitor based off your review when they had a sale and I’m super happy!
I remember their name and logo came up on 3D Mark 2001 SE loading screen! "Faster than a Ferrari... and more reliable" and "If you were running this on a Falcon, you'd be done by now. FRAMERATE IS LIFE." ... epic stuff right there!!!!
I had a falcon northwest full size tower back in 2008. It was extremely heavy and beautiful. I'm glad to see them coming back in popularity.
Thanks M4rio!
I also has one in 2008. It was a beast, SLI cards.
Falcon NW was founded in 1992, so they're 30 now.
My first real personal computer (my own system, not a family computer) was a Falcon Northwest Mid Tower I won at an AMD event that came through my hometown around 2004ish. AMD 3200 Athalon processor if I remember correctly. Was a really good system had it for years. Didn't even know that they were still in business building systems. May have to look into this.
Aww, nice! Falcon Northwest is getting some well earned love. Kelt sold me my first editing PC himself about 17 years ago. He was working the phone’s back then! Needless to say…I love this OG system integrator-Falcon NW is the best.✌️
I'll be honest, I didn't even know they were still around! Glad to see they're still kickin!
Cool to see a FNW build. I live near the business and always thought the build quality was top notch. However, the cost of their systems kept them off my shopping list.
Really wish they sold their cases by themselves. This config costs over $5,000 USD from Falcon NW, when you could part it out for about $3,000-3,300.
Labour, Warranty and Convenience has a cost. Not to mention Tooling, Machine Maintenance, Wages, Part Suppliers and Materials. People should honestly think what it takes to run a business lol. Mass production of cases is another ball game entirely.
@@earthtaurus5515 I'm not saying that for some it's not worth it, but to me I'd be happy to exchange the extra cost and deal with building and warranty issues myself.
The case is great, and I'd happily pay them for it while doing the labor myself.
I built a similar layout in a Sama IM01, the power supply just goes in that big empty space at the front. Turn it on its side and bolt on a handle and it's the same but even more space efficient.
@@drowsspeed1 Sure, you're not the only one who would love to do a PC build in that case lol.
If they sold people separate cases, they'd hardly sell any builds... It would be financial suicide.
Seriously considering a rack mount from these guys now that I've watched your review 😀
Love the work and appreciate the effort.
Thank you 😊
I've wanted a Falcon computer forever!! Good to see they still make stellar stuff
That’s a really nice build in small form factor. Falcon northwest have always had flawless designs.
Falcon NW has been around for WAY longer than 18 years. I remember completely drooling over the Mach V in the 90s, back in the gool ol' days of phonebook sized Computer Shopper magazines.
I dont know if they still do it. But I remember back in the 90s early 2000 facon nw would go the extra mile and automotive paint their chassis and cases too. Always has been incredible quality
@@dukfish968 yep, I remember that option
Heard about the canvas monitor from this channel. I've had it for a few days but it is pretty awesome.
Thanks Jay!
Lovely product indeed... So much attention to the details, good cable management... Rare to see in a prebuild. Good job really.
I admit I'm a little surprised you've never reviewed a Falcon NW system I do get how you would kind of put them out of mind. They were like the ultimate in customs for flight and racing sim players back in the day, but even back then their systems were "if I hit the lottery" expensive. I think they were the first ones where you went into it knowing you're paying a premium for this, but it's gonna be a premium system.
I knew a guy back in the early 2000s that had one of their systems. At the time it was insane. He had a triple monitor setup attached to it along with cockpit controls. Dude had money to spend like that though. When I met him he had been staying in the most expensive lodge in town for 6 months already while he waited for his new house to be finished in one of the highest value gated communities and the whole reason he was in a lodge waiting was that his wife left him and took their home and nearly half of his savings.
I just wanted to play some UT2004 or Morrow Wind on it. Lol... All he played was Microsoft flight sim and some other thing I don't remember though. I never did want to be rude and asks him if I could install some games I liked, of course.
Back in the day i remember the Fragbox vs alienware wars in the competitions. Fragbox always did the best. I built my last PC but I have ALWAYS wanted a frag box. Falcon-Northwest bookmarked for years. I hate being poor. Shame they cost so much.
Wizardry 8 still has an ad for this company in the game. Did not realize they were still around.
Falcon NW was the first SI that I remember, that used automotive paint on their custom case designs. They've always been a top tier company to deal with.
Also, lan parties are a blast.
That looks like a solid solid unit. I’d much prefer a form factor that is slightly larger but allows for overhead in cooling and power. I’ve seen smaller units but they seem knee capped by the size. When a few millimeters here or there would allow for full size components. I like the box. 😉
It's great that they not only Q&A tested it thoroughly but also provided the documentation. As you say that shows a lot of faith in the product and also that they have decent standards. Being cynical (or jaded?) I have to ask, is that standard for all systems they build or an additional extra?
Standard! Check our twitter feed for a recent customer's post of theirs.
@@Falcon_Northwest Ok, now that’s bloody good service! 👍🏻
Definitely standard, I remember old reviews in magazines and they always showed those test sheets, top notch for sure
@@charleswp71 I’m impressed!
Falcon NW has been around 30 years Jay. I remember them before I had a PC. Drooled on the magazine ads. But man were they HIGH...still are. But Id still love one.
Incredible build - very tight and well considered
Damn they are expensive. Their base Talon is $4,000.00 with a Ryzen 7600X and a RTX 3060Ti with only 32GB ram. This is crazy mark up for such a mid performance PC.
Could buy ITX Case and build it for a lot less.
Yeah it's over $6,000 for a decked out RTX 4090 Talon. Even without anything special for cosmetics factored in.
Building a SFF rig with the exact same components yourself(besides the case, duh) can save you up to 1500$, which can grant you an upgrade to a possible 4070 or 7900XTX. Guess i'm not the target customer for premium custom builds like this. 🤔 Neat nonetheless. 😎👍
Yeah for people having the experience to build something like this it's always cheaper to do it themselfes. But for people who are not as experienced and need good and competent service, this looks like heaven with it's quality, support and detailed testing beforehand
Nice to see FalconNW get some love here. I still remember the day when I found their site, 18 years later I still can't afford anything from them.
Falcon Northwest is the OG! Been a fan of theirs since the late 90s.
I just streamed an unboxing and stress testing of a Falcon Northwest Talon last night, and man. What an impressive machine. FNW has been around since the early 90s (so actually about 30 years) and they've spent all that time improving their proprietary enclosures while keeping an enthusiast mindset. Don't let the solid front panel on their cases fool you. They definitely understand the nuances of airflow.
It's nice to see custom pc builders and their custom quality cases, with margins getting tighter they really have to stand out from other off the shelf builders who barely put in any effort and slap a sticker on it and rely on the law of averages that the pc will work and give you a vanilla experience.
Drooled over their systems back in the day... glad to see they're still going
Looks great, seems the airfow has been well thought of. Quite amazing to see such a powerful PC in a small factor and not throttling
That thing is huge! I can also imagine it weighs quite a ton with a 4090. I would hardly consider that something convenient to lug around to lan parties.
Thought 1- I don't consider a 4090 convenient to lug around to LAN parties by itself... I call my Gigabyte 4080 Big Chungus, and its just the Gaming... The Aorus 4080/90 is even bigger
Thought 2- I used to lug around an Aopen HX08 with a 19" CRT monitor to LAN parties. 2 feet tall, solid steel side panels (pure beige, of course), weighed a veritable ton even *before* you put the computer in. I mean it wasn't convenient, attractive, or even remotely practical. But man I thought I was badass.
Convenient? You spoiled kids lol.
Try lugging a crt monitor and a full tower case around.
@@mephInc This. I still remember seat belting my big ol' crt when going to a friends house for a lan party. And the big metal full tower wasnt much better lol.
The Falcon Tiki is the one you want to be looking at for a grab-and-go travel LAN box. I wish they still made it with the marble base like they did when it first launched, although a nice thick piece of stained and varnished oak would look the part too, or some milled/machined heavy metal as the base.
Here's a wild idea: take the 8x4 plywood sheet you can stuff inside a truck bed or modern SUV/wagon and make a desk PC in the same size that you can dismantle the legs - perfect if you are driving to your destination and can reassemble the desk PC at where you are going. Put the monitor on a removable arm and you are all set. You could even do full custom water with flex tubing and do dual mobo. That would be a LAN PC I would be interested in seeing.
The Tiki comes standard with a 5 pound billet of solid aluminum for the base now. Milled on a 5-axis milling machine, bead-blasted and anodized. A little more precise than the granite bases were. :)
@@Falcon_Northwest That's great to hear 👍 Christmas is coming and my 7yo 5960X is feeling long in the tooth. Can you perhaps send me one for free???
I totally forgot about falcon NW - glad to see they are still making killer systems! - Personally, I like vertical cases but I like the handle
That's awesome. I'm considering this since I bought the first one back when it first came out. Still have the bag that came with it.
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Nice to see Falcon Northwest get some love. They have always been a top tier builder. Every couple of weeks when driving around I see their their headquarters and think... some day.... some day.
They've been around since the 90s I remember drooling over them during my early gaming years.
Loved this video. I travel all the time for work, spending 10-20 days living out of a hotel at a time. I built a system in the node202 for gaming while on the road because I needed something that could fit in a backpack so I could carry it on planes but was a better price-to-performance proposition than a laptop. Lan parties may be a way of the past for most, but there are still a lot of us out there who have a good use for very portable rigs.
Man. Glad to see Falcon Northwest is still around... haven't thought of them in years.
I grew up in the Medford area. Falcon NW has been a great company for many years. Their business model has always been about maximizing customer experience.
I'm impressed with the Falcon, and your very professional and thorough review. Thank you, this was the video I needed as I am shopping PC's and don't have a lot of space.
Thanks for your honest review.
I bought a phantek case (the evolv xt, I think the really small one with the infinity mirror on the front) because you reviewed it and I love it. Small but easy to build in.
Thanks again
I've had 2 Falcon systems over the years, and I'd 100% consider a tower from them in the future. Their systems are excellent.
Thank you!