Falcon Northwest DARED me to review the Fragbox!

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  • @michaelbishop3701
    @michaelbishop3701 Před rokem +242

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    • @jamiefollese
      @jamiefollese Před rokem +12

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    • @sammymagana9023
      @sammymagana9023 Před rokem +7

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    • @michaelbishop3701
      @michaelbishop3701 Před rokem +14

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    • @michaelbishop3701
      @michaelbishop3701 Před rokem +6

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    • @andyshtroymish4997
      @andyshtroymish4997 Před rokem +5

      @@michaelbishop3701 Heard that thought that we born and die alone. You are only 67, so there is some amount of time to live up to your dreams. As one good group sang: there's no need to bend down under this ever-changing world - it's better that it bends under us, and one day it shall bend under us!

  • @ordinary_motorist
    @ordinary_motorist Před rokem +310

    I remember wanting a Falcon box SOOOOO badly in High School. I completely forgot they existed, interesting to see the stuff they're putting out now.

    • @TheStevesterX
      @TheStevesterX Před rokem +16

      Yeah, same here, I remember drooling over Falcon Northwest Ads in GamePro/EGM/VG&CE/GameFan/Etc. when I was in High School. Thought they'd gone out of business in the early 2000's

    • @jimmywantwingy
      @jimmywantwingy Před rokem +6

      haha same. remember voodoo pc? I dont think they are around any more.

    • @johnosullivan22
      @johnosullivan22 Před rokem +8

      @@jimmywantwingy they are now known as HP Omen, bought out in 2006

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +21

      You're making us feel old here guys!😄 We are.

    • @tomferguson9250
      @tomferguson9250 Před rokem +4

      I still remember their ads in old tech mags like Max PC, PC World, Boot & plenty of others. Their systems always felt "out of league" of the usual consumer but damn did I ever want one.

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 Před rokem +250

    I’ve been a huge Falcon NW fan forever. The fragbox was a really amazing form factor in the 2000s.

    • @zeroman614
      @zeroman614 Před rokem +8

      It’s still the 2000s.

    • @TheOuterhaven
      @TheOuterhaven Před rokem +1

      @@zeroman614 And that's really surprising. Especially for housing a 4000 series RTX card. And here I am rocking a mid tower/ATX build because smaller mini-ATX builds simply ran too hot. But holy shit at the pricing. $3K+!!!

    • @patrickkucher5804
      @patrickkucher5804 Před rokem +3

      the prices are bloated....5.5k for 13900k and 4090...
      Here a 4090 is 1600+13900k is ~700.
      So there is 3000 bucks for the rest, must be a hell of a Cooler, mb, PSU and case for that money...

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks Před rokem

      @@TheOuterhaven It's a 3080 right?

  • @EyebrowsMahoney
    @EyebrowsMahoney Před rokem +25

    So cool to see Falcon is still around and the Fragbox isn't dead.

  • @azndood
    @azndood Před rokem +67

    Falcon Northwest has been around a really long time since the early 90s! They've gone through alot of company logo changes though. I remembered at one time they had a F-16 logo. They were always top notch SIs. Glad they're still around, Thanks Jay for checking this brand out!

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +27

      Just the one logo change in 1999, actually. :)

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 Před rokem +3

      Remember back in the 2000s when PCs were built like plastic space ships instead of glass RGB like today

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre Před rokem

      I remember that, time fuking flies!!!😱

  • @MrMackievelli
    @MrMackievelli Před rokem +283

    They've been around alot longer than 18 years, I remember ogling their custom paint job pc's since the 90's.
    Edit: I'm right. They've been around since 1992

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Před rokem +58

      It's Jay that thinks we are still in 2010, stay young jay

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +111

      Correct - we've been building gaming PCs since 1992! The FragBox model has been around for 18+ years, which is where Jay got that #.

    • @CodyIrons
      @CodyIrons Před rokem +1

      I remember the Half-Life magazine ad something like "turn run turn run turn run turn run, play it on a falcon"

    • @hotdogsarepropaganda
      @hotdogsarepropaganda Před rokem +22

      @@Falcon_Northwest Falcon Norhtwest wasnt joking about that customer service! Swooping in with that Numbers save!

    • @binyominmartin3308
      @binyominmartin3308 Před rokem +1

      @@Falcon_Northwest you should make a system or laptop based on the framework motherboard that way it can be user upgradable to the next generation of cpu or an AMD chip

  • @dangingerich2559
    @dangingerich2559 Před rokem +152

    That SX1000 power supply uses server power supply techniques to get that small and that high efficiency. That's a hell of a nice power supply.

    • @jolness1
      @jolness1 Před rokem +6

      Asus has a 1200W SFX-L unit coming out with titanium efficiency. They announced awhile ago so who knows when it will be available but I’ll be getting one. My Cerberus X case can support an ATX PSU but with the 4090 leaving me only 26mm of clearance in the front, can’t fit a radiator and fans so running my 5800X with a NH-D12L and a front mount SFX unit. I thought for sure my 750W Corsair platinum SFX would be enough for any card upgrade I did. Supported 2 1080Ti’s just fine. 1200w should mean I’m good for many years but who knows. Soon GPUs might pull 800W and CPUs 400.

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 Před rokem +1

      @@jolness1 damn!

    • @fr3ddyfr3sh
      @fr3ddyfr3sh Před rokem +4

      What is behind the snake-oil phrase “server power supply techniques”?
      Last time I checked, servers used exactly the same components in the power supply, if not sometimes cheaper, compared to gamer computers.
      They have a different form factor, sure. And some servers even have two power supplies, for fallback, if one fails.

    • @youruser6472
      @youruser6472 Před rokem +1

      @@fr3ddyfr3sh the main difference is a server psu doesnt care about how loud it gets and is expected to be running 24/7 at close to the max it can supply. If i remember correctly since gpu use 12v and many servers will have multiple of them, server psu are also expected to push more amps at 12v

    • @big0bad0brad
      @big0bad0brad Před rokem

      @@jolness1 Idk, if they go much above 1600W or so I think they have to start using different power plug connectors in the US at least. 15A and 20A circuits are supposed to use different plugs where the 20A has one spade of the plug rotated 90 degrees. If you've ever seen outlets with an extra notch in one hole, that's why.

  • @instinct-8991
    @instinct-8991 Před rokem +107

    I guess we didn’t buy enough merch.

    • @BAG97
      @BAG97 Před rokem +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 good one!

  • @theretrogamers7690
    @theretrogamers7690 Před rokem +50

    It's nice seeing Falcon Northwest on more tech channels. I have wanted one of these for 2 decades now.

    • @spyplane3979
      @spyplane3979 Před rokem

      id give you one if i had tech channel

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před rokem +2

      I would have thought that would be enough time to save up the cash to buy one

    • @charleswp71
      @charleswp71 Před rokem +3

      They had some pricey boxes, them and voodoo had some of the nicest prebuilts ever, to bad HP destroyed voodoo

    • @mr.anderson2257
      @mr.anderson2257 Před rokem

      So get one duh

  • @nickkasen4753
    @nickkasen4753 Před rokem +5

    Drive past there building every day here in Southern Oregon. Proud to see them represented, been in buisness for so long and such an under appreciated system builder.

  • @xliquidflames
    @xliquidflames Před rokem +101

    When Dell bought Alienware and instantly became uncool, Falcon Northwest became the new cool computer company. I used to drool over their configurator back in the mid aughts. My cousin and I would go to their site and just see how expensive of a machine we could configure.

    • @M33f3r
      @M33f3r Před rokem +4

      Falcon. For the man that already has a porche.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid Před rokem +3

      @@M33f3r You never experienced "Silicone Graphics" in the 90's then? They made work stations that did cost as much as a Porsche! This may be wicked for gaming, but for video production and what not you can get systems with 2 modern 16 or 32 core + processors on board, TB's of RAM, and like 4 graphics cards, AI accellerators... yet strangely in this moment I can't think of any of the few companies that make them, but talk about geek drool! 🤤

    • @SCHTRAM
      @SCHTRAM Před rokem +3

      Alienware was never anything more than cool though, it was never great value. Fragbox seems to actually be pretty good value with how much work they put into it compared to AW.

    • @Jay600D
      @Jay600D Před 6 měsíci

      New? Falcon has clear tenure over Alienware.

    • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
      @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@M33f3r Falcon. For the fool and his money who are soon parted.

  • @voidwarhammer
    @voidwarhammer Před rokem +10

    I remember drooling over some of their build in the late 90's. Especially the paint jobs. I am glad they are still around.

    • @stelonous
      @stelonous Před rokem

      Same. I kept seeing their offerings and secretly wanted one. Couldn't afford it though.

  • @robmoab3410
    @robmoab3410 Před rokem +33

    I've dreamed of owning a falcon since high school, and I graduated in 2004..... I think their longevity is a testament to the amazing product they deliver. One day.....

    • @DK.dk11
      @DK.dk11 Před 7 měsíci

      Same...just put one of these in my cart....dare me to pull the trigger haha!

    • @itisbeam
      @itisbeam Před 7 měsíci

      @@DK.dk11 I dare you

    • @DK.dk11
      @DK.dk11 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@itisbeamordered it 4 days ago 😊

    • @itisbeam
      @itisbeam Před 7 měsíci

      @@DK.dk11 congrats! debating one myself, we will see if I pull the trigger

  • @johnlyons1292
    @johnlyons1292 Před rokem +5

    Falcon Northwest has been around since 1992. Back in the days when Computer Shopper was a thick magazine. Showing my age. Lol

  • @omn1potent1d-_-b79
    @omn1potent1d-_-b79 Před rokem +4

    Love how Jay just rolls from 1 thought to the next so smoothly he just mid sentence will pop something random b there and it's awesome

  • @MyNextShotWontMiss
    @MyNextShotWontMiss Před rokem +2

    Falcon Northwest taught me how to do cable management properly ~20 years ago. They're still the best pre-built out there, hands down, and I'm happy they never sold out.

  • @kryptonic7435
    @kryptonic7435 Před rokem +50

    I have been using a Falcon Northwest Mach V (One of their older models) for about 6-7 years now. It still runs great! Just upgraded my Maxwell Titan X to a RTX 3070ti I got on black friday, and the performance is still incredible in 1440p!! Nice seeing them represented here, they make great computers.

  • @adamw9764
    @adamw9764 Před rokem +14

    I really like the smaller build machines like this, I have a SFF build that I would use for LAN parties (i haven't gone to any in years but it might be fun to start traveling to them next year). The fragbox has always been an amazing little machine!

  • @Riotdrone
    @Riotdrone Před rokem +7

    falcon northwest make the best gaming PCs you can buy, you will have to pay a premium but if you want the best you go to them. i just got a talon with 13900k and 4090 and it's mindblowing. the case and airflow design are incredible

  • @tumelin
    @tumelin Před rokem +3

    I remember dreaming of owning a falcon nw machine in high school in the early 2000s, its awesome to see them still making top notch builds.

  • @Natepwnsu
    @Natepwnsu Před rokem +5

    Falcon Northwest is basically the original designer computer. I remember seeing one in person as a teenager and their paint is higher quality than some cars. I still remember that even 15 some odd years later. If you have money to spend I'm pretty confident you won't be disappointed with a computer from them. Get a custom paint job. Worth it.

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +3

      Thanks for the kind words. We've moved on to digital UV printing from paint, as we can do so much more with it. But the automotive paintwork had a style all its own.

    • @Natepwnsu
      @Natepwnsu Před rokem

      Yea i actually was Just looking at the config and noticed that. Kinda sad. It's interesting but I definitely prefer the paint, I imagine the custom painting and shipping just couldn't last.

  • @Spook_Boi
    @Spook_Boi Před rokem +8

    i remember someone who worked at FNW and left only because he wanted to do more YT stuff and he summed up working for them as nothing but great. his coworkers were chill af and so was his boss. they only had one bad egg and no one really cared for him that much. and also their benefits were good

  • @tipulsar85
    @tipulsar85 Před rokem +3

    Falcon Northwest is a Name I haven't heard of in decades. Glad to see they're still around.

  • @ghomerhust
    @ghomerhust Před rokem +8

    as a builder since the 1990s, ive been a fan of falcon NW for a long time because of their build quality and their want to stuff ridiculous hardware in smaller, slimmer cases with sleek designs. they are right up there with the likes of maingear and digital storm as far as quality. good crew there

  • @aschen
    @aschen Před rokem +3

    Cool to see Falcon sending out a unit and still kicking around. I remember looking at their systems and wishing I could afford them like 10 years ago

  • @AJ-zl8bz
    @AJ-zl8bz Před rokem +19

    My first real gaming rig was from Falcon NW, back when they used the silverstone cases. Damn she was a beauty! Company is class act all around. If you don't want to build but want high end, great option.

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +5

      Thank you!

    • @gmualum08
      @gmualum08 Před rokem

      How are the prices though? I'll look for myself a bit later but would you say they're at the high end for SI's?

    • @YogyBear
      @YogyBear Před rokem +1

      @@gmualum08 When I checked earlier, they were asking $3,900 USD for their base Ryzen configuration of
      Talon chassis
      3060 Ti FE,
      Ryzen 7600x,
      Asus STRIX X670-E Gaming Wifi,
      2x16GB of Trizent Z5 RGB 5,600MHz,
      280MM CPU liquid cooler,
      1,000 watt EVGA SuperNOVA G6,
      and a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2 SSD.
      If you're generous and incorporate the cost of a Windows key, the total would come out to around ~$2,000 USD, depending on the case, if you build it yourself. Insanely overpriced.

    • @jrok96
      @jrok96 Před rokem

      ​@@YogyBearhow else would he be able to afford jayz? What ever happened to 10 or 15 percent margins ? 100%!¿¿??

  • @CuriousGeorge1111
    @CuriousGeorge1111 Před rokem +1

    As someone shopping for a maximum performance, reasonably quiet, upgradable, durable, easily transported PC, from a trusted company with an excellent warranty, the FragBox is a dream come true!
    I don't go to LAN parties, but I do travel between two locations Spring and Fall, and this looks perfect for my needs.
    Thanks for the thoughtful, informative review, unboxing, etc. Much appreciated!

  • @briandebord7876
    @briandebord7876 Před rokem +4

    I was really excited to see you review something from Falcon Northwest. I have followed them for years and think they are the most intricate SI around. Their level of detail and care is amazing. Keep up the good work Jay!

  • @ReaperX7
    @ReaperX7 Před rokem +6

    Falcon Northwest is literally one of the GOATs of System Integrators.

  • @angry_ike7628
    @angry_ike7628 Před rokem +7

    Jay might want to check his math again. FalconNW has been around since 1992. That's 30 years old, not 18. I've been wanting the spare money to throw at a fully loaded FragBox since high school, and I graduated university in '08-09 school year.

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +1

      Jay just got a # switched - The FragBox has been in production for 18 years now (more if you count when we used off the shelf cases), but Falcon Northwest is on year 31 now.

  • @tombales8854
    @tombales8854 Před rokem +1

    For me (ancient gamer, 80 yrs old, small fixed income) Falcoln Northwest is Lalaland, a place to go and dream and reminisce. I also remember them from "back in the day" now that you've reminded me, but I'm also reminded they're still way beyond my meager means with their "starting at" prices at least three times my total monthly income. I enjoyed this video a bunch, even though I know it's entirely irrelevant to anything I can do more than dream about. Glad to know they're still out there. Great work and thanks, Jay.

  • @Chad11491
    @Chad11491 Před rokem +1

    I remember getting an ad for Falcon Northwest in the box with Aliens Vs Predator 2 like 20 years ago. Cool to hear they’re still around.

  • @thebaum64
    @thebaum64 Před rokem +19

    The build quality looks insane, along with the design and layout. Very impressed.

    • @blarghmcblarghson1903
      @blarghmcblarghson1903 Před rokem +1

      Honestly, layout isn't that great compared to the NR200. Main difference is in the NR200, that void where the cables are bundled is where the PSU would be; it doesn't obstruct the exhaust from the GPU, doesn't choke out half the fans on the radiator, opens up the space above the CPU for an air cooler instead (Fuma Scythe 2 can fit in there), and positions the PSU to draw air in from outside the case. I think the only nice thing about this layout is the PSU's power switch is more accessible.
      If you have a FE card there's even enough space to buy the ATX PSU bracket for the NR200 so you won't be as limited in PSU choices.

  • @parkers1988
    @parkers1988 Před rokem +12

    I remember seeing Falcon Northwest advertisements in Maximum PC back in the 00's. I always thought they had some of the coolest looking computers. However, I was a teenager with no money.

    • @originalname9999
      @originalname9999 Před rokem +1

      And now I am a older man that still can't afford the maximum build but always drool over their systems.

    • @MrFoxtrot130
      @MrFoxtrot130 Před 3 měsíci

      Man, I remember that magazine,I used to get it monthly with the included demo disc, those were the good old days

  • @chrisc3825
    @chrisc3825 Před rokem +1

    Older than 18 years my friend Jay. They were founded in 1992 and definitely remember looking at their products in the late 90s when I was building computers. They are one of the OG's of custom built gaming computers.

  • @Alex-zi1nb
    @Alex-zi1nb Před rokem +2

    oh perfect, it still has the integrated handle! god i wanted one of these back in the mid to late 2000s back in the heyday of lan parties and internet cafes. this hits right in the nostalgia

  • @therinsig
    @therinsig Před rokem +3

    I have a Falcon NW Tiki that I've been running since 2013. It still runs amazing. I replaced it with a custom build that I built when 30 series came out just because it had aged out but it was still lightning fast and problem free after 7 years given the hardware in it. I firmly believe FNW makes the best pre-built systems on the market.

  • @nikwilliams4047
    @nikwilliams4047 Před rokem +10

    For those that are curious all the builds Falcon offers start at $3+K.

    • @stephenschroeder6567
      @stephenschroeder6567 Před rokem +3

      I expected them to be expensive and as you confirmed, they are. I am confident you get what you pay for with these builds from them so the prices are justifiable. But just like a Bugatti would take me anywhere I want to go, I can only afford my Jeep Renegade.

    • @nikwilliams4047
      @nikwilliams4047 Před rokem +5

      Thing about it is though, $3k starting for a ryzen7 cpu and a 3060, in a mid tower. Seems a touch high for so mid upper parts

    • @magicmarger
      @magicmarger Před rokem +4

      That's the part I don't like about the video, he praises the system for its performance and build quality (no question, it's awesome) but doesn't mention the 5k+ pricetag.

    • @syed2694
      @syed2694 Před rokem +1

      @@nikwilliams4047 could be a pricing strategy to funnel customers towards their highest end builds

  • @randy206
    @randy206 Před rokem +1

    I didn't know falcon northwest was still around. I used to drool over their PC pron in the computer magazines. Their stuff was so cool back in the day. Looking forward to this video.

  • @rebelshadowrm
    @rebelshadowrm Před rokem +2

    I remember FalconNW vs Alienware before Dell tanked it. True OG, always been a huge fan. Glad to see a review on their products, I often feel they are a bit underrated these days.

  • @mikeallensonntag
    @mikeallensonntag Před rokem +4

    I'm surprised you've never reviewed a falcon-nw they are like hands down the top of the top SI's as you call it out there. Stuff is top notch granted the price reflects that also.

  • @Creationeer
    @Creationeer Před rokem +5

    Always liked Falcon NW, I love how detailed you can make a build and the case mods. They have done some amazing paint/transfer jobs over the years that look so damn good! :D

  • @jklm.
    @jklm. Před rokem +2

    i was super close to being a Falcon NW customer about a year ago when i was in the market for top tier. Just bad market timing and a bit of luck in finding a steal on a prebuilt or I would be. I have no regrets though and after the amount of research i did during that time. FNW are at the top of my list for builders.

  • @ClassicalTechnology
    @ClassicalTechnology Před rokem +6

    I've been asking them to bring back the Mach V, they should redesign it, remove the bays, and do it! The Talon is great, but the Mach V is legendary. :D

  • @BluesElwoo2
    @BluesElwoo2 Před rokem +3

    Thats really awesome! If I were to buy a prebuilt, I'd really consider this! Love the portability!

  • @buzzsaw5
    @buzzsaw5 Před rokem +2

    My first gaming rig was a Falcon NW with an Athlon 800 and a GeForce 2 Ultra. Loved it and was impressed back then. Following that rig I started building my own so I didn't look at any more prebuilts. Glad to see they are still around and still putting out a great product.

  • @swisscheeze3919
    @swisscheeze3919 Před rokem +2

    Falcon NW was one of the first that did automotive finish on their PCs from what I can remember. I absolutely loved their builds back in the early 2000s.

  • @Warhorse469
    @Warhorse469 Před rokem +6

    I love how jay is more excited over a mug and coffee beans than the PC itself lol.

  • @attemptityourself5662
    @attemptityourself5662 Před rokem +6

    At a base surface area level a 280 isn't that much smaller than at 360. The extra 20mm on the depth really adds up. That said obv rad perf and fin density is more important than SA. Just pointing out the 280 instead of a 360 isn't too extreme of a compromise as far as the cooling area you're getting.

    • @3-E
      @3-E Před rokem +1

      I think the difference between a 360 and 280 is only about 10%

  • @XouXin
    @XouXin Před rokem +1

    That packaging was fantastic for shipping. I felt cozy and safe just watching it.

  • @cxemphren8879
    @cxemphren8879 Před rokem +1

    I can't believe how entertaining your intros are. I'm always laughing and learning just 10seconds into your vids.

  • @dualbeardedtech
    @dualbeardedtech Před rokem +5

    I've had several falcon northwest systems. They've always been spot on with hardware and support. A+

  • @jarekstorm6331
    @jarekstorm6331 Před rokem +13

    Building your own PC has gotten almost as expensive as buying from these boutique builders these days, and a lot more hassle trying to source parts. Buying a pre-built from guys like these is now a pretty good option, and they use REAL name brand, high tier parts instead of random junk.

    • @Xeonzs
      @Xeonzs Před rokem +1

      Exactly, I've used pc-builder services before, where I'd pick the parts but let them build it for me, maybe I need to pay like a 50-100 euro for their build service, but it saves me the hassle and let's say I need a previous gen CPU to update the BIOS before I can use the next gen, they'd already have that laying around over there for sure, whereas I perhaps wouldn't.
      I don't like full prebuilds as they often use parts I wouldn't use or prefer something else or another brand, so this is great, also full prebuilds usually have way too high margins, there's a prebuild on a dutch site going for 6000 euros right now, but all parts combined assuming average price would put it just shy of 4000 euros, I understand they gotta pay man hours, but bruh... building it would take a day max, I don't get paid 2000 euros per day lol.

    • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
      @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248 Před 6 měsíci

      Are you kidding? I configured a tiki then went to parts picker. The parts picker was $2400 the Tiki was $4300.

  • @robinhadley
    @robinhadley Před rokem +2

    What's cool is Falcon are taking the time to read these comments and reply to some of them 👍🏻

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +2

      Amazing community Jay has going here with all of you. Often YT comment sections are a dumpster fire, but the positivity for tech and kind words here are wonderful!

  • @iamChermac
    @iamChermac Před rokem +1

    This is a very nice system and I really appreciate seeing more SFF content. Thanks Jay.

  • @scottgould65
    @scottgould65 Před rokem +3

    So cool to see them still around. I loved my Fragbox I had 15 years ago. It traveled as my carry on for many years, even making it all the way to Thailand!

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l Před rokem

      How long years wise did your fragbox last out of curiosity given the prices for them?

    • @scottgould65
      @scottgould65 Před rokem

      @@user-gz4ve8mw9l It still works now. It's the age of the CPU and GPU that age it out.

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l Před rokem

      @@scottgould65 Good to know it still runs for you. For the price one would pay for a pc like this that is reassuring. I'm contemplating getting one down the road but not yet sold on it. Due to the high price tag and unfortunately I can't see the current configuration options. As they are evidently sold out on their website until May right now.

  • @superninja4526
    @superninja4526 Před rokem +9

    I bought a NZXT monitor based off your review when they had a sale and I’m super happy!

  • @NiPPonD3nZ0
    @NiPPonD3nZ0 Před rokem +1

    I remember their name and logo came up on 3D Mark 2001 SE loading screen! "Faster than a Ferrari... and more reliable" and "If you were running this on a Falcon, you'd be done by now. FRAMERATE IS LIFE." ... epic stuff right there!!!!

  • @M4rio21
    @M4rio21 Před rokem +2

    I had a falcon northwest full size tower back in 2008. It was extremely heavy and beautiful. I'm glad to see them coming back in popularity.

  • @Cheezzy0
    @Cheezzy0 Před rokem +4

    Falcon NW was founded in 1992, so they're 30 now.

  • @Ookami313
    @Ookami313 Před rokem +3

    My first real personal computer (my own system, not a family computer) was a Falcon Northwest Mid Tower I won at an AMD event that came through my hometown around 2004ish. AMD 3200 Athalon processor if I remember correctly. Was a really good system had it for years. Didn't even know that they were still in business building systems. May have to look into this.

  • @ShadeChasing
    @ShadeChasing Před rokem +1

    Aww, nice! Falcon Northwest is getting some well earned love. Kelt sold me my first editing PC himself about 17 years ago. He was working the phone’s back then! Needless to say…I love this OG system integrator-Falcon NW is the best.✌️

  • @MD2389
    @MD2389 Před rokem +1

    I'll be honest, I didn't even know they were still around! Glad to see they're still kickin!

  • @acinomnottarts
    @acinomnottarts Před rokem +4

    Cool to see a FNW build. I live near the business and always thought the build quality was top notch. However, the cost of their systems kept them off my shopping list.

  • @drowsspeed1
    @drowsspeed1 Před rokem +6

    Really wish they sold their cases by themselves. This config costs over $5,000 USD from Falcon NW, when you could part it out for about $3,000-3,300.

    • @earthtaurus5515
      @earthtaurus5515 Před rokem +5

      Labour, Warranty and Convenience has a cost. Not to mention Tooling, Machine Maintenance, Wages, Part Suppliers and Materials. People should honestly think what it takes to run a business lol. Mass production of cases is another ball game entirely.

    • @drowsspeed1
      @drowsspeed1 Před rokem +1

      @@earthtaurus5515 I'm not saying that for some it's not worth it, but to me I'd be happy to exchange the extra cost and deal with building and warranty issues myself.
      The case is great, and I'd happily pay them for it while doing the labor myself.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast Před rokem +1

      I built a similar layout in a Sama IM01, the power supply just goes in that big empty space at the front. Turn it on its side and bolt on a handle and it's the same but even more space efficient.

    • @earthtaurus5515
      @earthtaurus5515 Před rokem

      @@drowsspeed1 Sure, you're not the only one who would love to do a PC build in that case lol.

    • @Squidgy55
      @Squidgy55 Před rokem +1

      If they sold people separate cases, they'd hardly sell any builds... It would be financial suicide.

  • @GreenCthulhu
    @GreenCthulhu Před rokem

    Seriously considering a rack mount from these guys now that I've watched your review 😀
    Love the work and appreciate the effort.
    Thank you 😊

  • @Salikaan
    @Salikaan Před rokem +1

    I've wanted a Falcon computer forever!! Good to see they still make stellar stuff

  • @Vigilance779
    @Vigilance779 Před rokem +10

    That’s a really nice build in small form factor. Falcon northwest have always had flawless designs.

  • @Vrtigo1
    @Vrtigo1 Před rokem +3

    Falcon NW has been around for WAY longer than 18 years. I remember completely drooling over the Mach V in the 90s, back in the gool ol' days of phonebook sized Computer Shopper magazines.

    • @dukfish968
      @dukfish968 Před rokem +1

      I dont know if they still do it. But I remember back in the 90s early 2000 facon nw would go the extra mile and automotive paint their chassis and cases too. Always has been incredible quality

    • @Vrtigo1
      @Vrtigo1 Před rokem

      @@dukfish968 yep, I remember that option

  • @jchoneandonly
    @jchoneandonly Před rokem

    Heard about the canvas monitor from this channel. I've had it for a few days but it is pretty awesome.
    Thanks Jay!

  • @techgirl517
    @techgirl517 Před rokem +1

    Lovely product indeed... So much attention to the details, good cable management... Rare to see in a prebuild. Good job really.

  • @PsychoStreak
    @PsychoStreak Před rokem +3

    I admit I'm a little surprised you've never reviewed a Falcon NW system I do get how you would kind of put them out of mind. They were like the ultimate in customs for flight and racing sim players back in the day, but even back then their systems were "if I hit the lottery" expensive. I think they were the first ones where you went into it knowing you're paying a premium for this, but it's gonna be a premium system.

    • @CynHicks
      @CynHicks Před rokem

      I knew a guy back in the early 2000s that had one of their systems. At the time it was insane. He had a triple monitor setup attached to it along with cockpit controls. Dude had money to spend like that though. When I met him he had been staying in the most expensive lodge in town for 6 months already while he waited for his new house to be finished in one of the highest value gated communities and the whole reason he was in a lodge waiting was that his wife left him and took their home and nearly half of his savings.
      I just wanted to play some UT2004 or Morrow Wind on it. Lol... All he played was Microsoft flight sim and some other thing I don't remember though. I never did want to be rude and asks him if I could install some games I liked, of course.

  • @Faranos007
    @Faranos007 Před rokem +3

    Back in the day i remember the Fragbox vs alienware wars in the competitions. Fragbox always did the best. I built my last PC but I have ALWAYS wanted a frag box. Falcon-Northwest bookmarked for years. I hate being poor. Shame they cost so much.

  • @TowerSavant
    @TowerSavant Před rokem +2

    Wizardry 8 still has an ad for this company in the game. Did not realize they were still around.

  • @dennisperry8579
    @dennisperry8579 Před rokem +2

    Falcon NW was the first SI that I remember, that used automotive paint on their custom case designs. They've always been a top tier company to deal with.
    Also, lan parties are a blast.

  • @HiresMerc
    @HiresMerc Před rokem +3

    That looks like a solid solid unit. I’d much prefer a form factor that is slightly larger but allows for overhead in cooling and power. I’ve seen smaller units but they seem knee capped by the size. When a few millimeters here or there would allow for full size components. I like the box. 😉

  • @WardyLion
    @WardyLion Před rokem +7

    It's great that they not only Q&A tested it thoroughly but also provided the documentation. As you say that shows a lot of faith in the product and also that they have decent standards. Being cynical (or jaded?) I have to ask, is that standard for all systems they build or an additional extra?

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +9

      Standard! Check our twitter feed for a recent customer's post of theirs.

    • @WardyLion
      @WardyLion Před rokem +3

      @@Falcon_Northwest Ok, now that’s bloody good service! 👍🏻

    • @charleswp71
      @charleswp71 Před rokem +3

      Definitely standard, I remember old reviews in magazines and they always showed those test sheets, top notch for sure

    • @WardyLion
      @WardyLion Před rokem

      @@charleswp71 I’m impressed!

  • @Daehawk
    @Daehawk Před rokem +1

    Falcon NW has been around 30 years Jay. I remember them before I had a PC. Drooled on the magazine ads. But man were they HIGH...still are. But Id still love one.

  • @ardrek_
    @ardrek_ Před rokem +1

    Incredible build - very tight and well considered

  • @nigmaxus
    @nigmaxus Před rokem +7

    Damn they are expensive. Their base Talon is $4,000.00 with a Ryzen 7600X and a RTX 3060Ti with only 32GB ram. This is crazy mark up for such a mid performance PC.

    • @jaggsta
      @jaggsta Před rokem +1

      Could buy ITX Case and build it for a lot less.

    • @user-gz4ve8mw9l
      @user-gz4ve8mw9l Před rokem

      Yeah it's over $6,000 for a decked out RTX 4090 Talon. Even without anything special for cosmetics factored in.

  • @khaychi
    @khaychi Před rokem +7

    Building a SFF rig with the exact same components yourself(besides the case, duh) can save you up to 1500$, which can grant you an upgrade to a possible 4070 or 7900XTX. Guess i'm not the target customer for premium custom builds like this. 🤔 Neat nonetheless. 😎👍

    • @alexanderbaumann7902
      @alexanderbaumann7902 Před rokem

      Yeah for people having the experience to build something like this it's always cheaper to do it themselfes. But for people who are not as experienced and need good and competent service, this looks like heaven with it's quality, support and detailed testing beforehand

  • @markambrose1910
    @markambrose1910 Před rokem +1

    Nice to see FalconNW get some love here. I still remember the day when I found their site, 18 years later I still can't afford anything from them.

  • @chriswilson9331
    @chriswilson9331 Před rokem +1

    Falcon Northwest is the OG! Been a fan of theirs since the late 90s.

  • @braethorn
    @braethorn Před rokem +3

    I just streamed an unboxing and stress testing of a Falcon Northwest Talon last night, and man. What an impressive machine. FNW has been around since the early 90s (so actually about 30 years) and they've spent all that time improving their proprietary enclosures while keeping an enthusiast mindset. Don't let the solid front panel on their cases fool you. They definitely understand the nuances of airflow.

  • @yoyobah1862
    @yoyobah1862 Před rokem +3

    It's nice to see custom pc builders and their custom quality cases, with margins getting tighter they really have to stand out from other off the shelf builders who barely put in any effort and slap a sticker on it and rely on the law of averages that the pc will work and give you a vanilla experience.

  • @Sargentwhitey
    @Sargentwhitey Před rokem +1

    Drooled over their systems back in the day... glad to see they're still going

  • @AeiKei
    @AeiKei Před rokem +1

    Looks great, seems the airfow has been well thought of. Quite amazing to see such a powerful PC in a small factor and not throttling

  • @ricardodejesus5405
    @ricardodejesus5405 Před rokem +5

    That thing is huge! I can also imagine it weighs quite a ton with a 4090. I would hardly consider that something convenient to lug around to lan parties.

    • @shawn2780
      @shawn2780 Před rokem +3

      Thought 1- I don't consider a 4090 convenient to lug around to LAN parties by itself... I call my Gigabyte 4080 Big Chungus, and its just the Gaming... The Aorus 4080/90 is even bigger
      Thought 2- I used to lug around an Aopen HX08 with a 19" CRT monitor to LAN parties. 2 feet tall, solid steel side panels (pure beige, of course), weighed a veritable ton even *before* you put the computer in. I mean it wasn't convenient, attractive, or even remotely practical. But man I thought I was badass.

    • @mephInc
      @mephInc Před rokem +4

      Convenient? You spoiled kids lol.
      Try lugging a crt monitor and a full tower case around.

    • @mkuhnactual
      @mkuhnactual Před rokem +2

      @@mephInc This. I still remember seat belting my big ol' crt when going to a friends house for a lan party. And the big metal full tower wasnt much better lol.

  • @Luscious3174
    @Luscious3174 Před rokem +3

    The Falcon Tiki is the one you want to be looking at for a grab-and-go travel LAN box. I wish they still made it with the marble base like they did when it first launched, although a nice thick piece of stained and varnished oak would look the part too, or some milled/machined heavy metal as the base.
    Here's a wild idea: take the 8x4 plywood sheet you can stuff inside a truck bed or modern SUV/wagon and make a desk PC in the same size that you can dismantle the legs - perfect if you are driving to your destination and can reassemble the desk PC at where you are going. Put the monitor on a removable arm and you are all set. You could even do full custom water with flex tubing and do dual mobo. That would be a LAN PC I would be interested in seeing.

    • @Falcon_Northwest
      @Falcon_Northwest Před rokem +1

      The Tiki comes standard with a 5 pound billet of solid aluminum for the base now. Milled on a 5-axis milling machine, bead-blasted and anodized. A little more precise than the granite bases were. :)

    • @Luscious3174
      @Luscious3174 Před rokem +1

      @@Falcon_Northwest That's great to hear 👍 Christmas is coming and my 7yo 5960X is feeling long in the tooth. Can you perhaps send me one for free???

  • @taggerung890
    @taggerung890 Před rokem +2

    I totally forgot about falcon NW - glad to see they are still making killer systems! - Personally, I like vertical cases but I like the handle

  • @joshuakendall3470
    @joshuakendall3470 Před 9 měsíci

    That's awesome. I'm considering this since I bought the first one back when it first came out. Still have the bag that came with it.

  • @Ultrajamz
    @Ultrajamz Před rokem +5

    I think fragbox is a girl I knew from college

  • @originalname9999
    @originalname9999 Před rokem +1

    Nice to see Falcon Northwest get some love. They have always been a top tier builder. Every couple of weeks when driving around I see their their headquarters and think... some day.... some day.

  • @rocketblades
    @rocketblades Před rokem +1

    They've been around since the 90s I remember drooling over them during my early gaming years.

  • @hunterdirkse4645
    @hunterdirkse4645 Před rokem +2

    Loved this video. I travel all the time for work, spending 10-20 days living out of a hotel at a time. I built a system in the node202 for gaming while on the road because I needed something that could fit in a backpack so I could carry it on planes but was a better price-to-performance proposition than a laptop. Lan parties may be a way of the past for most, but there are still a lot of us out there who have a good use for very portable rigs.

  • @egmccann
    @egmccann Před rokem

    Man. Glad to see Falcon Northwest is still around... haven't thought of them in years.

  • @tsdbhg
    @tsdbhg Před rokem +2

    I grew up in the Medford area. Falcon NW has been a great company for many years. Their business model has always been about maximizing customer experience.

  • @TheLawdog008
    @TheLawdog008 Před rokem

    I'm impressed with the Falcon, and your very professional and thorough review. Thank you, this was the video I needed as I am shopping PC's and don't have a lot of space.

  • @Echristoffe
    @Echristoffe Před rokem

    Thanks for your honest review.
    I bought a phantek case (the evolv xt, I think the really small one with the infinity mirror on the front) because you reviewed it and I love it. Small but easy to build in.
    Thanks again

  • @spike6385
    @spike6385 Před rokem +2

    I've had 2 Falcon systems over the years, and I'd 100% consider a tower from them in the future. Their systems are excellent.