Eurovision 1983: The 4-way race you’ve probably missed | Super-cut with animated scoreboard
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- An edited down version of the 1983 Eurovision Song Contest in Munich with a scoreboard using today’s technology. Nothing but a fun lockdown project.
00:00 Intro
03:07 Song supercut
20:15 Voting intro
22:54 The reorder board 83
1:15:09 Top 3 recap and reprise
1:19:42 Closing credits
Considered less than a classic Eurovision, this edit will give a flavour of the evening (23rd April) with Terry Wogan’s UK commentary. Good quality source videos were harder to find so again there’s a mixture of audio and visual sources. The best video comes from a replay on German TV many years later (sources below).
1983 is a long show, the first to be three hours long. 1983 est un long spectacle, le premier à durer trois heures. 1983 ist eine lange Show, die erste, die drei Stunden dauert. No prizes for guessing why. They also added in a ‘parade of nations’, swiftly dropped until it returned in 2013. Together with two nul points, this year is not seen as the Contest’s best, but actually in the super edit there’s some diamonds in the rough.
AND WHAT A SCORING SEQUENCE! Enjoy that. Presenter Marlene Charell deserves a special mention for the sheer effort she put in. Charell announced everything (singers, conductors, writers) before each song, produced AMAZING flower arrangements for each entry which didn't make this edit unfortunately, and then danced in the interval act (also cut). Sorry Marlene! My special edit does go to the UK’s entry though, for an impressive use of props and key change that I think sunk their chances in 1 second flat.
DESIGN AND THE BOARD
So the design uniformity we saw in 1982 was dropped somewhat, and we reverted back to a functional approach. We did have a striking logo font though, and that was used in the song titles and the main title - but not the scoreboard. Perhaps for legibility reasons. The board is nicely worked into the stage with Charell in a magnificent dress that sat well on crisp white stairs. I’ve kept close-up shots of the winning country’s points ‘twinkling’ - you can hear them clattering on the programme audio and it reminded me of noise made by station clocks before they all went digital - magical stuff!
I’ve used the logo font, Motter Tektura (a free version is called Mottek Normal) where I can. Check out this great site for where else in the 80s it was used: fontsinuse.com/typefaces/1021.... It was created by Austrian designer Othmar Motter of Vorarlberger Grafik in 1974. I’ve retained Dalton Maag’s (licensed) Aktiv Grotesk font for the numbers and the series branding of course because Motter’s numbers are not suited for data! I’ve taken the Bavarian blue seen in the opening titles, added the logo to push out the points and taken the circle theme (from the logo and building) a bit further! The board arrangement is very 2004, but I think it provides a nice change. The change to three languages on the song straps in a tribute to the inter song titles that were displayed.
The stage, which Wogan called a ‘large set of 3-bar electric fires’ was both notable but unexciting. The directing must be praised for its constant shots of the prominent orchestra (which really lifted some of the entries) and also excellent placement of song name straps during the performances - an artform in itself.
My board uses the same logic as ever, not used in the actual contest yet at this time...the songs are ranked by points, 12s, 10s, 8s and then their position in the running order.
TRANSFER NEWS (source: Wiki)
OUT: Ireland - Shockingly, the Eurovision powerhouse had to miss this year because of industrial action at RTÉ. The channel still broadcast the show though, with BBC commentary.
BACK: France came back with the help of their second channel, Antenne 2. ‘Vivre’ did ok, but was way back from the four leading the scoring. France hasn't missed a Contest since. Greece came back too, after their rule break in 1982 and Italy also decided to grace us with their presence.
INTERVAL ACT - not shown
The interval show was a dance number set to a medley of German songs which had become internationally famous, including "Strangers in the Night". The host, Marlene Charell, was the lead dancer.
CREDITS
ESC Stuff for the German video
Lucas ESC Archive for Wogan’s commentary
www.countryflags.com/en/ for all the free to use images of flags
Yugoslav flag by Đorđe Andrejević-Kun,commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
All Copyright goes to the ARD & BBC. - Hudba
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Such an underrated winner! Blessed to have heard her live 36 years later, and she still nailed it as the best singer of the night!
I think there are enough examples of editions which proofs that translating the votes in 3 languages is just dragging out the voting too much and makes it way too difficult for the host. Doing one set of votes yourself seems easy, but being on that stage with all the pressure, going on for 20 or more sets of votes, makes having a slip more frequently; which also makes it confusing for everyone to watch. Such as during this voting where she suddenly almost forgot how much points were awarded to a country, because each time she translated it, she changed the number of the vote.
Unfortunately she was anxious, judging from her voice being out of breath and she failed to ever focus on what she was currently doing. Her mind must have been all over the place.
I found it worked in Jerusalem 1979.
@@irondasgr Probably still recovering from spinning at the end of the interval.
I love it how during the voting the commentator continuously roasts Corinne Hermes with "that girl needs a drink" and "all the emotions going through dat girls face"
I suppose by the end it was a champagne
Or May be This commentator should have stop drinking to be more respectable….
He was just projecting his needs over her. Of course, she was easily providing him with every pretext to declare so.😁😬
Amazing work, Iove your design and animations, so in consonance with the 1983 contest, and the way you put everything together! 👏👏👏
Thank you David - it's using up lots of free time in the lock down and I love doing it....thanks for taking the time to comment!
@@thereorderboard Which application do you use to do this? Looks so profesional.
WOW - that's such a a hefty job - well done!
it must have taken you a lot of time
Amazing work!!! Well done!! Thank you very much!!
Dzuuuuuuli.....Daniel
Wow! Huge congratulations, Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Eurovision 1983 is one of my favorites, it was held in one of my fav german cities: München, and in the year one of my german crushs was born: Philipp Lahm :)
I think we all shared Sir Terry Wogan’s exasperated sigh at 43:53 over Marlene Charell once again getting tangled up with the three languages and not listening to jury spokespersons sufficiently.
And to be bluntly honest, we don't even need _two_ languages. Every Eurovision viewer knows enough French to be able to follow the voting without having a host(ess) or commentator blab the thing to pieces.... 🙄
I like how you utilized the visual identity for 1983 to make this scoreboard! Some highlights include the circles in the background and using the music notes to reveal the points. The scoreboard you created reminded me of the one from 2004 with its shape.
In my opinion, I think 1983 was a great year! There were a few duds in there (including Turkey), but I liked the song quality and how the orchestra interpreted them. The production was a bit weaker on the other hand, though I did like the flag parade and the flower arrangements.
It also featured one of my least favorite winners of all time in Si la vie est cadeau. I like French language songs, but this is not one of them and it doesn't hold up well today.
Honorable mentions to GBR and GER (who looked like they could win in the early voting); they would've done well in any other year in the 1980s.
My top ten:
1 pt: PRT
2 pt: FRA
3 pt: GRE
4 pt: ITA
5 pt: ESP (It's a bit of an acquired taste, sure, but I really love the orchestration here! It adds a bunch of drama with Remedios' voice).
6 pt: BEL
7 pt: FIN
8 pt: SWE - Carola's debut entry is very charming and sweet, and show off how talented she is as a performer. I prefer the verses to the chorus, but it works together well with the melody, vocals, and lyrics. Also the rare case where minor verse/major chorus works.
10 pt: YUG - This is where Yugoslavia transitions to pop music, and I think this is the very best of them (yes, even better than Hajde da Ludujemo, though I like that one too). It's nostalgic, summery and fun, and Danijel's backing dancers have a ball on stage. Plus the orchestration turns this good song to something fantastic.
12 pt: ISR - I rarely say this, but I think this song should have won. It's proud, it's clearly tied to the country it is from, and it also has some of the best orchestration in the contest. Ofra Haza was a fantastic singer, and her backing team does a great job too. (Rewatching the voting, I'm surprised on how Israel never took the lead at any point, along with how few 12 points they had) It's an absolute anthem, and a deserved classic today.
In my opinion, that staging was very ahead on his time
Just look at the light in some entry like belgium, Austria or denmark
Back in the days when Cyprus getting 12 points - or any points at all - from Greece wasn't a given!
Yeah. Can't say the same about Sweden and Norway though🤭
Greece should have given 12 points to Cyprus in Eurovision 1983, since Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa like Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
@@johny7even Greece should have given 12 points to Cyprus in Eurovision 1983, since Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa like Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa. Sweden and Norway aren't one people two nations.
I just stumbles on this and your other videos and I just want to say - WELL DONE on your animations!!!! Happy new year to you!!
It's a pity they decided the repeat the marks 3 times cause I believe it kind of breaks the excitement a bit
I always remember this Eurovision as the year that it looked like all the acts were performing on a window ledge of a construction site. It was a good contest, but that stage design was just shockingly bad. I’m really enjoying your postings. I’m watching each one from the beginning onwards, it’s taking me some time, but I’ll get there. Thanks for the effort. We appreciate it.
Amazing job. Congratulations! :)
Thanks for watching!
The audience had a deep dislike for Luxembourg it seems! One of the longest applause for a non German high mark was the Netherlands handing Luxembourg nur eine Punkt! Great job, and indeed a stunning dress and her hair was amazing as well!!
The audience was clearly rooting for Israel
Yet the Dutch vote didn't change anything about the top 6 despite
From 1983 we have lost:
Cetin Alp - Turkey
Gunther Hoffman - Germany - Suicide
Ofra Haza - Israel
Recep Akut - Turkey
Jahn Teigen - Norway
Mato Dosen - Yugoslavia - Accordion Player
Armando Gama - Portugal and Guy Bonet - France as well
@@IgorIgor-es5nc Yes, since this was posted we've lost them too. Sadly we are losing more and more people each year
Pro tip: if you set the speed of the video to 1.25 during the voting, it's not that hard to get through! Haha
Thank you omg I didn’t think of this😂😂
I always watch them in 2x
That Spanish jury was too ahead of their time. 8 points for Belgium and 12 for Greece! Great taste from them, hands down!
Ofra Haza was my winner .... such a beautiful voice. ❣️
Yes!!
Indeed she was the best
The artwork and the technical details are outstanding indeed. I watched other videos too and all scoreboards are very well processed. Would love to know what software to you use to create these scoreboards.
Great job,
Just rewatched '87 and now '83 - the level of the songs are far supperior to '87 and the live orchestre did a great job (unlike other years.. most famous Rome '91) Luxembourg probably ended up winning due to the other contenders fighting for the same votes - plus singing in French still had it's benefits in '83
87 is probably the worst of the 1980s along with 84.
Thanks so much, merci beaucoup, vielen Dank, mille grazie, muchas gracias, bedankt, hvala, tak and obrigado for your wonderful project, and all the loving details in your animation, and the information you put into these videos. Fabulous work. 👌🇪🇺💚
Israel so close 😭😭😭😭
Terry’s arithmetic skills were dreadful. And the arithmetic skills of his sidekick! :o)
I see what you did there when you said how long the show went for.
Vous avez fait un tour très intelligent avec l'explication en trois langues.
Und ich frage mich, warum der Eurovision Song Contest 1983 so lange gedauert hat, bis er drei Sprachen durchgespielt hat.
Amazing design as always, but there's one thing: "X von 20 Jurys stimmen ab" means that X out of 20 juries are voting, while the remaining ones aren't. I'd propose saying "Jury X von 20 stimmt ab", meaning "Jury X of 20 is voting".
one of the best years in Eurovision history
Maybe the best Eurovision year. The level of the songs is high. Such a great top5.
Jeez why did they make her read every vote out in three languages you can literally hear her thinking the whole time. Just so awkward and hard to watch💀
CAROLA
Sans hésiter pour moi en 2020.,mon Top 5 est Luxembourg,Yougoslavie,Suisse,Israël.Suède.
1 Finland ,2 Israel , 3 Yugoslavia , 4 Sweden , 5 The Netherlands
This is the best eurovision year of all time ... for me at least 12 songs were brilliant (and are on my top ever list ...
Carola mit „Främling“ Ofra Haza, Daniei mit „Djulie“ ,oder Hoffmann&Hoffmann,das waren die Besten, warum Corinne Hermes gewonnen hat,hab ich nie verstanden?
ISABELLE AUBRET participe aussi aux qualifications en 1983 en face de GUY BONNET qui composait la chanson de ISABELLE AUBRET en 1968
I think that this is the only time that two songs in the last place sang after each other (Turkey & Spain).
No. There were also Belgium, Spain and Austria in 1962, Yugoslavia and Switzerland in 1964, Monaco and Italy in 1966, and Germany, Switzerland and Portugal in 1974.
Deutschland war meine Nr. 1. Nach 40 Jahren immer noch ganz große Klasse.
How is it that after thirty years I am watching this voting with the nerves of someone watching this live? My douze points goes/would have gone to Israel
Do you mean 40 years??? 😅
@@henriksievertsrvad6281 Oh my! You're right. I'm obviously in denial about my age!
@@ppj1115 same …
Cities where the points were awarded from and languages this year
France: Paris (French)
Norway: Oslo
United Kingdom: London
Sweden: Stockholm
Italy: Rome (French)
Turkey: Ankara
Spain: Madrid
Switzerland: Bern (French)
Finland: Helsinki
Greece: Athens
Netherlands: Hilversum
Yugoslavia: Novi Sad
Cyprus: Nicosia
Germany: Munich
Denmark: Copenhagen
Israel: Jerusalem
Portugal: Lisbon
Austria: Vienna
Belgium: Brussels
Luxembourg: Luxembourg (French)
All juries awarded their votes in English unless otherwise stated.
Marlene Charell repeated the points in German alongside English and French.
I love the Luxembourg entry although agree that this year did seem to lose resonance with the public in terms of hits. Israel was a deserved 2nd. And I would have liked to see the UK come third. So under-valued imho.
Great job with the scoreboard. I wish it had always been like this with the songs showing in the order of highest scores. Can’t believe it took until 1998 for it to happen for real.
You forgot the upside down question mark with the Spanish entry but other than that great job!
As with Eurovision in general I dont think 1984 had many great songs, but in retrospective I would say that with all songs considered the quality was quite high actually. And besides Austria that came last ( it got points and wasnt that bad) Yugoslavia that ended 2nd last was very catchy and would probably be in the too 5 has it competed in the remaining finals of the 80s. Norway the winner of the bottom top3 was only 10 points from a top 10 placing. My personal favourite that year was Luxembourg( was 9 at the time and thought the singer was soooo beautiful🤭) still think the song is very good( too sad her delivery was so off key) . My "grown up" top 6 is as follows. 1.Italy(by far🤩). 2.Turkey 3. Norway 4. United Kingdom 5. Luxembourg 6. Belgium
Ofra haza is not a team its a singer
spain for me the best...to soon for 1983...today was amazing.... I love it
Poor Turkey and Spain.. good songs for me..
That Italian jury trolled them all!
OMG GREECE GAVE CYPRUS 0 POINTS?!
I was just about to comment this, the Cypriots must’ve been fuming!!
@@giannis93FUL ti sto kalo les den vgazei noima
@@reapercityGreece should have given 12 points to Cyprus in Eurovision 1983 since Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa like Moldova and Romania who are one people two nations since these two countries have as an official language Romanian and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
@@ggoddf5889 έπρεπε η Ελλάδα να δώσει 12 βαθμούς στην Κύπρο στην Γιουροβίζιον του 1983, αφού η Ελλάδα και η Κύπρος είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη και άλλες χώρες ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο όπως η Μολδαβία και η Ρουμανία που είναι ένας λαός δύο έθνη αφού αυτές οι δυο χώρες έχουν την Ρουμανική ως επίσημη γλώσσα και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο. Επίσης το Αζερμπαϊτζάν και η Τουρκία είναι ένας λαός δυο έθνη και ανταλλάσσουν δώδεκα βαθμούς και το αντίστροφο.
MY DEAR YUGOSLAVIA!!!!!❤
❤
50:24 the Yugoslav jury
Lovely presentation again. It was a sort of weak year but there were some very strong songs. The winner was one of the stronger ones but not the best (although I enjoyed the Luxembourg production in 84, so I can forgive that). Also, I did feel it was the Marlene Charell show, she was too rigid. Turkey was my favourite of her flower arrangements.
Anyway my points for 83:
1pt Spain (should have at least got some points!)
2pt Austria
3pt Belgium
4pt United Kingdom
5pt Luxembourg
6pt Netherlands
7pt Finland
8pt Sweden
10pt Yugoslavia
and finally
Israel 12 points
Israel was the obvious winner, but Sweden and Germany did really good. Luxembourg...well, proves that even back in the day Eurovision had a love for melodrama.
Your opinion doesn't make Luxembourg's song bad or Israel's song good
@@mirva3810
The Israeli song was sung in Hebrew, by an Israeli singer and by an Israeli composer.
The Lux song was sung by a French singer, with lyrics written and music by Frenchmen, plus sung last which was a big deal back then.
To me that makes the Israeli song more authentic than a song-for-pay which was basically what Lux did all the time.
@@ponyclub3198 There are no statements in the rules that require artists to sing for their home country, so all your points are only opinions and therefore invalid in this argument.
@@mirva3810
I disagree
@@ponyclub3198 it is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, those are the rules of the contest
My votes for 83:
12 pts - Sweden
10 pts - United Kingdom
8 pts - Norway
7 pts - France
6 pts - Italy
5 pts - Netherlands
4 pts - Cyprus
3 pts - Yugoslavia
2 pts - Denmark
1 pt - Austria
Luxembourg's entry was good, but I will never understand why it won. There were more interesting (and catchier) songs that year. My favorites are Yugoslavia and Israel.
I have never forgotten this voting, It was one of my first Eurovisions to watch and I'm still peeved about Sweden, Israel or France NOT winning. These songs still ring in my head and play on my Spotify but the winning song is so forgettable.
🎶💞🎶
My Mom Have Born This Year1983 in Marocco😍🤩
Luxembourg not even a one hit wonder!
Austria should’ve been top 5, Sweden deserved the win, far better than the rubbish they won with in 1984.
UK or Israel should have won.
No Luxembourg well deserved that win
1:13:26 Aufan Allamge duos pwa
Beautiful Europeans countries languages is not only english !!!
we had 3 barefoot ladies tonite: spain and the 2 girls from belgium :D
Wow 🤩 Luxemburg 🇱🇺 ist mega 🥳
Israel was my winner!!
Hehe
Twölf points to la Schweden 😂
Greece not giving Cyprus any points this year🫣👀
@@giannis93FUL nah it’s nice to change it up
Greece should have given 12 points to Cyprus in Eurovision 1983, since Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa like Moldova and Romania which are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as their official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
Ofra Haza was the outright winner. Yes, Eurovision loves melodrama. The winner was very shaky in her vocals. Well, Ofra will be the winner in our hearts.
Come on ! Israel and Sweden received 2x12 points and Luxembourg 6x12 !!!
The winner was very shaky on her vocals !!! LOL 😂 Pff 😤!
There’s only one winner every year.
You are pitiful.
@@berniedu7185 By your logic, the UK should have won in 1977 (6x12) and not France (3x12)...
@@JeSuisRene or France against Italy in 1990 ??? Of course no. What I mean it’s that you can’t change the result just because you don’t like a song. Ofra was favorite and stay in some hearts ? Ok 👍 in mine too, but you can’t denied the victory to Corinne Hermes. And if she received 6x12 points I can suppose that she was absolutely not shaky (lol) in her vocals. She had a gorgeous voice !
I think all three songs were very good and they all deserved at least being in the Top 3
37 years after the Holocaust a proud Jewish woman from Israel sang Life Life life I am still alive, the people of Israel are alive. The Germans were cheering for her. 37 years before the Jews were murdered by the Germans and1972 the Olympic terror act against Israel in Munich. For a child of holocaust survivor mother Israel is the moral winner and a sign that justice wins over evil.nehoncould imagine this in 1945. I think most people don't understand the significance of this Israeli entry .
12 Luxembourg
10 Sweden
8 Germany
7 Israel
6 Spain
5 UK
4 Finland
3 Belgium
2 Italy
1 Austria/Netherlands/Portugal
A great year especially compared to the previous edition of 1982
1. 🇮🇱 Ισραήλ
2. 🇱🇺 Λουξεμβούργο
3. 🇫🇮 Φινλανδία
4. 🇫🇷 Γαλλία
5. 🇪🇸 Ισπανία
6. 🇩🇰 Δανία
7. 🇸🇪 Σουηδία
8. 🇧🇻 Νορβηγία
9. 🇹🇷 Τουρκία
10. 🇬🇧 Ηνωμένο Βασίλειο
And Cyprus gave Greece 12 p.!😂😄
My top 10 - EDITED
1. 🇸🇪 Sweden
2. 🇳🇱 Netherlands
3. 🇬🇧 United Kingdom
4. 🇲🇪 Yugoslavia
5. 🇮🇱 Israel
6. 🇮🇹 Italy
7. 🇧🇪 Belgium
8. 🇳🇴 Norway
9. 🇵🇹 Portugal
10. 🇪🇸 Spain
This is *such* a strong year, with only one entry I dislike (Luxembourg).
Edit: I would have put France much higher, if not for that horrible tierce-de-Picardie which had no place there at the end.
Rene Do you know that you are being ridiculous?
Take away the winner of the top10 ..... unbelievable dishonesty ahahahahahah
litogor I am not being ridiculous. I’d say that this was the best of Carola’s efforts by far, though Fangad av en Stormvind is also my 1991 winner.
@@JeSuisRene I've noticed that you are the Carola fan, haha! I love both Framling and Fangad av en Stormvind, though neither of them were my favorites in their years (3rd in 1983, 2nd in 1991). I prefer her 1991 entry because there's so much joy in it.
I'm not a big fan of Invincible, however.
Greece gave Cyprus 0?? Really??!😄😂🤐
Greece should have given 12 points to Cyprus in Eurovision 1983, since Greece and Cyprus are one people two nations and other countries exchange twelve points and vice versa like Moldova and Romania who are one people two nations since these two countries have Romanian as an official language and exchange twelve points and vice versa. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one people two nations and they exchange twelve points and vice versa.
What a racket that song from Spain was. No wonder it ended up with no votes.
The year Eurovision lost completely touch with popular music and trends. It was to be like that for 20 years to come with a few exceptions to the rule… what if Sweden would have won? More pop music in the years to follow? Nobody knows but this was a dull winner though she sang it beautifully and the song is nice but for 1983 it was outdated as hell…
The woman presenter was so crap. Her husband was amongst the producing team and so she was imposed to present the show. There were mistakes along the entire evening.
3 different languages...not so easy...everything is same but different
Самый ужасный дизайн сцены за всё время. Выглядело как конкурс самодеятельности в тюрьме. И слушать оценки на трёх языках - реально утомительно.
Электрический нагреватель! Спасибо за просмотр!
@@thereorderboard Electric heater? o_O
@@thereorderboard what language do they speak in here
Presentation wise possibly the most boring Eurovision I recall.
One of the worst winners
Why didn’t Nicole perform again?
What a horrible stage