SUPER CHARGE your kids Power Wheels with Dewalt 20V!
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Power Wheels battery won't hold a charge? Watch how to convert a Power Wheels Ford F150 to use Dewalt 20V batteries.
Items Used:
30A DC Motor Controller - amzn.to/2ZzYquc
USB Adapter for Dewalt 20V Batteries - amzn.to/3k9MhEm - Zábava
I've added links to the products used in the video description.
I have 12 v motors on the wheels so can use 20 v battrey with 12 v motor?
@@NavdeepSingh-hw6fu Yes. Some 12v motors can handle it better than others. You’ll always have some type of ceiling where it’ll melt or quit working. Running a 12v motor at 20v is a pretty common mod though and a lot of people have good success with it.
@@TractorHoarders how about a 6v to 20v mod? would this probably need a motor upgrade?
Just did this a few days ago on my neices power wheel, On amazon the sell a full kit, battery adapter plus a voltage stepdown controller, there is no speed boost due to the new voltage controller is static 12v output. but it made it a VERY easy install process the Dewalt batteries are so much easier to charge and swap out !
Great video! One helpful tip for the these ride ons is to get a bicycle tire, cut it so it’s one long strip, then cut it long ways so the sides are trimmed off. You should be left with a long strip of the middle tread. Cut enough so it wraps around each of the rear tires and then use flat head screws to secure the tread to the plastic wheels. Viola! Assume traction and no more wheel slip!
Excellent advice!
this is what our corvette on 20v has, it will just freespin otherwise lol
To add my two cents:
1. I bought 10 12" long trailer wires ($2 on Amazon) and cut them in half to create my own system of proprietary connectors. I ended up converting one of the trailer wires into a polarity reverser. The wire gauge is not great, but the run is only a matter of inches and seems ok.
2. I used a cheaper non-Dewalt adapter ($15 on Amazon) and soldered directly to the 20v out to the tool. All the electronics and included USB charger on the adapter still work. It still adapts 18v tools to 20v batteries. I filed holes where the two halves of it meet for the fuse holder out and back in, and the trailer wire out. The clamping action of the case keeps my kids from tearing apart the solder and butt connections.
3. I ended up buying a pair of 6ah batteries on sale at Home Depot for $129 to run my kids PowerWheels. These are a great size. I couldn't bring myself to burn up my Flexvolts which are way more $$$ per Ah. The kids change batteries when then get down to one light on the battery. My understanding is that a large Ah battery will get you approximately 10% more speed (also slightly better performance in certain tools).
4. If you use up a 5Ah battery in 30 minutes of hard driving, that works out mathematically to an average of 10amps over 0.5 hours.
5. I ended up with drifty cars due to much more power than the wheels can put to the ground. This effect (which the kids love) creates substantial tire wear.
6. The first time we pressed the pedal on our Barbie jeep (polarity reversed !) the kids flipped the jeep rubber side up completely and landed on their heads. The roll bar on the Jeep actually worked.
Scott Smith Excellent ideas! Thanks for sharing with us!
Number 6 had me dying.
I know this is kinda old but cut old bicycle tires and screw them around the tire. We have a field and a trail through the woods so did this and now my boys battery side by side has plenty of traction.
@@ngfd338 I’m glad I saw this comment. Great idea
So, do you have to use the speed controller…aka the Potentiometer?
I’m in England, you Americans have such nice garages and streets, and your kid in that car looks so freaking cool too
Thanks, Dan, for the kind comment!!
Beautiful work and drive to kids 🤩😘🤩
My son did a similar thing to his sons little car. Went from 6 volt to 12 volt. Made quite a difference.
It really does pep them up! Good on him! I think it's a better value than buying the stock replacement batteries.
Thank you, your video was great and you child loves his truck that's the main idea. but all my parts today and did a tire upgrade to rubber.
How do you like the rubber tires?
This video was awesome, did this to my little boys 57 chevy power wheels. It is amazing, batteries last alot longer, its faster and just a swap when it goes dead.
That’s awesome! I have never seen a 57 Chevy power wheels, but that would be sweet! I totally agree - using these types of batteries are the way to go. After doing this, I’d never buy another replacement stock battery. Thanks for sharing!
@@TractorHoarders if there was a way to send you a picture and video of his power wheels I would.
Best tutorial I’ve see.
Thank you!
im an electrical rookie. from the dewalt usb adapter is that a smaller gauge wire (16gauge) going to a thicker gauge wire (12 gauge)? Won't that make it heat up? im trying to do the same exact thing as youve done. thanks for your help
Pop the top off the old Power wheels battery and you can take the plug out easy and best way i have found for connectors. can also use 10 inch bike tires and cut the bead off and put it around the plastic tire and run a few screws the the side wall of the bike tires to keep them in place.
I did this to my son's Hummer it was fast but died in less than 10mins need to get a bigger battery with more ah as my drill batteries are only 1.5ah great video
He'll be loving it with a higher ah battery for sure!
Loving it 😍
What about overdischarge? Do desalt batteries have cutoffs inside the battery?
lol your son cracked me up when he popped in 😂😂😂😂😂
Was really waiting to see that flexvolt installed and the kit going FULL SEND on that thing
k- Trix It performs the same, but lasts longer. It’s still 20 volts, just has higher capacity.
me too! TURN IT UP!!!!
U cud use the circute board to install usb conn3ctions on the dash of the power wheel just. Make usb slots for it and secure it some how behind the dash !! Put the circute board the same but with longer wires. And you will be set. Usb connections for your kids. To charge their electronics
That’s a great idea!
About to try just got my boy a dino racer
Did the conversion on my sons power wheels it was running fine for a few minutes but now it turns on but will not move. Think I might have burned the motors out any suggestions on upgrading?
Buy from a alarm supply place there 12 volt 7 amp hour about $7.00 a 24 amp hour about $12.00 and so forth. I used them for fire and burglars alarms. I buy them in the stores that sell alarm equipment.
I have a 20v/ 6 amp & 7 amp batteries. How long will it last if my kids play non-stop?
My battery keeps over heating I have a 30 fuse on the ground (red) cable. It keeps blowing. How do I prevent this? 12v to 20v DeWalt
Since you like using crimp connectors like me, I recommend using a drop of DeoxIT (D100L) on every crimp. They'll last forever.
I'll check those out - thanks for the recommendation!
Thanks for the video. After upgrade battery conversion, my rear wheels motors are destroyed being plastic. What can I replace it with to make them durable?
I’ll defer to other viewers to comment. I haven’t had this issue so far. Hopefully someone else can steer you the right way.
Add bigger motors 775 with metal gear boxes they bit expensive but do the work I seen videos
WOW!! Just inspired me to tweak my daughterss Vw Bus 6V Princel, i wonder if anyone got any suggestions to go crazy on it ? Thanks in advance
You need to be a little more cautious with 6v (don't take it up as high), maybe you could probably go to 12v with little problem. Once you start down this path though, it becomes addictive! I'm sure your daughter will love it. There are groups on Facebook for this type of thing -- search for "Modified Power Wheels".
Parts kit?
What size fuse do I need
Before watching these videos i just stuck some wire with spade ends from the dewalt battery connector to the original battery connector tried it on my son's jurassic park quad normally ran on 6v battery 😂 and it was ripping for maybe a minute before I completely seized the little motor I opened the little motor gear box and only the motor seized time to to order him a new motor and the potentiometer with the battery adapter on low setting see what it does lol thanks
haha it's hard to do an upgrade like this on something that was originally 6v. Hopefully toning things down with the potentiometer helps out! I've done the same thing on another one, so you're not alone! 😂
Cool idea. Curious how old your son is and at what age they stop riding the power wheels?
My son is now 6. I think we got this truck for him when he was 2. I think there's at least a good 4 year window to enjoy them, maybe more.
The wires on the USB charger verses the fuse wire are very different in size. Was this the same with yours? Can they still be spliced together?
You can. It’s not ideal, but it will work. Mine was the same.
I have added 18 v drill battery to my daughter's ride on car. Originally 12 volt battery. But the car keeps shutting down while operating. You need to turn it off and on again to make it work. Where I have gone wrong. I have a 30 amp fuse to it. Tried an automatic circuit breaker as well but issue is still there. Everything works normal when I put it back on 12 v battery setup.
Your main computer shut down for over heat cause is not build for 18v try max 14.4 volts it will work without stop...
So I've done this to my son's. I used a 20 volt dewalt battery straight to the connection Port where the regular battery goes but when I try to turn the machine on it just flashes and doesn't actually turn on I'm thinking there's a voltage overload protection somewhere??
It may depend on which vehicle you have. I personally haven’t experienced that on any of the Power Wheels I’ve done it to, but it could be possible. These things are usually fairly simple. I’d trace the wiring and see where exactly it goes and what’s in line. On the simple ones, it’s usually just a series of switches.
If you discharge below a certain volt then the battery cant communicate with the charger to charge. What u will need to do is connect positive and negative leads coming from battery and connect to anither battery for about 30 second. Now you can recharge the drained battery and not throw them away.
Never thought of that... good advice
thanks I merged the dewalt battery to the car one for even more power running the car battery positive, and merging the dewalt to the negative on the original battery and and using the dewalt lead to the car.. but the dewalt batteries keep getting drained way to fast for some reason
I got a question the wire that came on the usb adapter is very thin can that wire cannot be used with that thick wire ?
I used this same setup and the small wires melted into the yellow plastic USB charger housing, had to adapt and use larger size wire
Wow
They make large rubber bands for aerobics and workouts... Put 6 of them on each wheel and really take off!
thanks I merged the dewalt battery to the car one for even more power running the car battery positive, and merging the dewalt to the negative on the original battery and and using the dewalt lead to the car.. but the dewalt batteries keep getting drained way to fast for some reason! anyone know why? is it because the batteries are diff volts maybe?
How did the stock motor and gears hold up to the extra power?
Never really had any issues directly related to the motor or gears. I eventually had an issue with a switch, but I believe it may have been water related and not related to the power upgrade.
If I upgrade voltage to a power wheel that has features like remote control, radio and lights will I try them?
Yes, I’d be careful with that. You can however easily separate those features from the drivetrain and run those with a separate battery to ensure they only get 12 volts.
Buy a 24v - 12v converter and make sure the radio etc are connected to that. So the upgraded voltage goes to motors and everything else goes through the converter
Did the rear wheel motors ever go out after doing this upgrade? any issues?
I've done this with a bunch of Power Wheels and have rarely had motor issues so long as the vehicle was originally 12v, and I didn't exceed 20v. 24 or 36 volts is a different story.... very fun for a short time! lol
Nice mate. FYI, crimp is better for vibration than solder. Solder for housed PCB.
Good too! Thanks!
Whats the right wire gauge? Thinking of doing a T splice.
I believe it was 12 gauge... I could be wrong though. Might want to double check. Good luck with it!
NICE I HAVE EXACTLY EVERYTHING U HAVE THE USB CHARGER HOW DO YOU KNOW WHICH IS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE
Look at your battery pack. It should have + and - symbols on it. Then, watch where those connect on your USB adapter and you’ll be able to see which is what. Hope this helps.
If you don't know, you could place a voltage meter on it and that will show polarity.
I just did this conversion. I got the truck for $10 not knowing what works. I have power with the shifter in reverse , but nothing in forward gears, I’m think it’s the shifter that needs replaced, do you agree? When I reversed the wires and left it in reverse it wen forward.
If I don't want a regulater can I just hook up without as long as I have fuse on positive
Yes!
Did this to my daughters frozen mustang and would not work. It goes into a limp mode and the circuit board has a flashing red light. If I put the regular power wheel battery it works fine…Anyone have any ideas ?
Nice. My kids have 2. They are slow as mess tho. Is there somewhere I can buy exactly what I need to do this to theirs?
Feel free to check out the links in the description. Since the making of this video, there are also other products out there that can be used for this too.
What size gauge wire are you using I wanna set this up for my granddaughter
Just match the wire size to what is already on the vehicle
Do you need the additional fuse with the fuse that comes included inside of the controller?
Probably not. Having an external one is nice though because it’s easier to replace. Otherwise you have to undo screws to take the cage apart on the controller.
@@TractorHoarders Appreciate it man! Really good video!
Hans, great video, dud you have to upgrade the motors to do this? Most motors are 12v can they handle 20v with ease? All the best stay safe 👍
Hey Ben, not motor, wiring, or any other upgrades. Just what was seen in the video. Works like a champ. Our only issue now is all the wheels are worn out lol.
@@TractorHoarders many thanks 👍
@@TractorHoarders my wheels are also got worn. Do you have a solution for that?
I put dolly tires on it with getting new plastic hubs and made a spacer out of wood to fit it in place
But before I did that I used old used bike tires with rivets and the marine 5200 adhesive after sanding a little and cleaning the tires real well. Hope that helps
Hello can I use 4x12v batteries for my power wheels it’s 24v System just to get more amps?
Yes you can. Just make sure you wire it up right. Wire two sets in parallel, and the run those sets in series. When doing that, it’s also best if the batteries are of the same age and health.
Hans Makes It Work - Tractor Hoarders Very helpful thank you so much
Could you add a parts list in the description possibly?
Agree.
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How long does the battery last? Im trying to dod this project for my little bro and wanna find out the most optimal runtime
With a 60v flexvolt battery, it may run 45 minutes or so depending on how hard you're running it. Flat ground vs hilly makes a difference too.
Question: How do you charge it? Can you charge it using normal power wheel charger or do you have to take the batter off to charge it seperately?
You take the battery off and use the original charger that came with it. I’m my case, I constantly swap batteries between Dewalt tools and the Power Wheels.
@@TractorHoarders the battery compartment on mine is under the seat. It would be troublesome to take off the seat everytime it need to be charged.
Thanks.
Where did you get the v controller
Amazon
After this long, did the motors burn out while using a 20v?
I recently sold the truck, like two weeks ago. It quit working, but I don't believe the motors burnt out. It was some other electrical issue that I didn't take the time to diagnose, but I don't believe it had anything to do with running 20v. I've done this mod to approximately 10 power wheels with no real issue from that. We're pretty rough on them, so the causes of death have been other things.
Will this method work for the remote controlled power wheels cars?
Player #1 , it’ll take a little more effort. One of the simplest ways is to isolate the drive system and extra electronics (the RC electronics). The drive system can handle increased voltage, but the other stuff would likely fail.
Do you recommend use other battery (12V ) for the electronic only ? ( remote controlled car )
Trying to find out... How many weeks did this last before the gears broke? No one ever does a follow-up video to these upgrades.
Lasted a year or two until I sold it to someone else.
Ok guys need some help this upgrade has worked great but after a 20mins the battery is either completely dead or the 30 fuse blows. So what have I done wrong or is this common?
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So I can’t just buy a 20v adapter and attach it? What would happen if I don’t add that extra fuse thing people say to add
You can, the fuse just adds protection to the electrical system
Wow this kid drives better thab me hahaha. Nice project. Just add the list of stuff you used..
Probably types better too
@@sscnando hahaha yeah...
I just did this and they love it. But rode for about 5 min and I blew my first 30A fuse. Should I just put a new one in and try it again and see... or...?
DougMX726 I’m going through the same thing! If we get too much resistance from having a load in situations where we get traction, it blows my 30a fuse too.
Same here....
@@TractorHoarders did you ever find how to fix that?
Heather Moore I found that if we stick to cement and pavement, we don’t have an issue. When we go off-road, up hills, or places that cause extra resistance, that’s when we blow fuses. Someone that did this same mod said they put in a 40 amp fuse and have been fine. I haven’t personally tried that. When you do it, the wiring and electronic components will get hotter.
@@TractorHoarders WHAT ABOUT USING BIGGER FUSE AMPS WILL THAT HELP ??
I have a similar setup but worried I burn up the 12v motors. How long did yours last?
MrCmbradley I’ve had 0 issues with the motors. Working just fine! The fuses protect the wiring and motors. Sometimes we replace fuses.
@@TractorHoarders great to hear! can you share the specs on your motors? Mine are 12v 540 8000z
So I converted a power wheels 12v to a 20v w a speed control module and fuse..been running fine for a few months..all of a sudden it stopped. I thought it was the power tools battery, until I plugged in he power wheels battery..it ran, then I plugged in a different black and decker battery and it doesn’t run..any suggestions?
Weird. Based on your description, I'd do some basic checks on the Black and Decker batteries with a Multi-Meter, and just double check all of your connections related to connecting that battery.
I was looking if someone used a flexvolt!!
haha, they do pretty decent! I recommend it.
@@TractorHoarders I actually went through and did it! my kids can zoom around all day rotating on a total on 3 batteries and 1 tender.
GREAT FUN.
Hi, where did you set the potentiometer? 12v or closer to 20v?
We crank it up all the way to allow 20v
At first, I used it to limit it, but of course my son always wants it fast. Going forward, I would skip adding it to save cost.
What gauge wires you using to connect everything?
Although I do not remember, it would be preferable to use the same gauge wire as what’s already in the vehicle as a minimum.
@@TractorHoarders ok swt, Im assuming it'll be 12 gauge but will have a look. Cheers
How much longer does it run?
The higher amp hour the battery, the longer the run time. I would 100% do this over buying another new stock battery ever again.
How long does a full charge last you guys? I did this for my son, and 1 charge is only lasting me 10 mins. Granted, he's going max speed...
Hopefully some others can chime in. It’s going to be directly related to the amp hours of your battery. The smaller it is, the shorter the run time will be.
My 5 amp hour battery seems to last 20-30 minutes, I think. My 60v Flexvolt might be 9 amp hours at 20v and it lasts a while; maybe 45 minutes. I haven’t timed any of them though.
Does the voltage controller have a low voltage cutoff or else you can damage your battery
Good question. No, it does not. Over the last 10 years I’ve done this to probably 10 power wheels and never killed a battery from that. It is a real concern though. Maybe I’ve been lucky? I don’t know…
That’s built into the dewalt batteries so is a non issue.
At what speed is a good speed to not burnt out the motor
I’ve never burnt one out at 18 or 20 volts. I have burned them out at 24 and higher volts.
What happened if I don’t used the Dc controller and the fuse can still work ?
Yes, it will still work, you just can not control the voltage.
What’s the runtime like with the dewalt 20v 5ah battery.? Vs runtime of the stock battery?
Dennis Kelly less run time,the stock battery has 9.5 amp hr.
Time to wrap those plastic wheels in rubber!
I was thinking the same thing! Maybe an old bike inner-tube or something.
@@TractorHoarders be careful adding more traction... Many modders have found the gears get destroyed very quickly without an electric jog feature when starting and stopping.
Heard the same thing with the inner plastic gears wear out fast
Use flex tape. I got the black 4” wide flex tape and it works great
Got mine all wired up and doesn’t work. I can hit the pedal. Power will get engaged. Then hit the pedal and get throttle response once. Then seems to lock out the circuit board.
Anyone do this to Maserati GranCabrio 12v car?
"You got 20v" "yee" which equals dodge scat pack 😄
Yes! hahaha
What kind of run time do you get?
45 minutes or so on a 9 amp hour battery
I wonder how long it will last at 20v before it start burning things out
This is about the 10th one of these I’ve done this too. Never had an issue at 20v. 24 or 36 is another story though. Lol
Do you have a wiring diagram?
Hi Craig, unfortunately, I do not; however, Power Wheels in general have very simple electrical circuits. You pretty much just have a battery, switches, and motors (at least on ones like this). From the battery, you basically just have "+" and "-" going to a fancy switch (high forward, low forward, reverse), and then the other side of the switch feeds to the rear motors in parallel. You can get a cheap volt meter off of Amazon (example: amzn.to/3xrU08f) and use it to confirm polarity. Good luck!
I did the milwaukee 18v and fried my battery after if ran down. Now only flashes and will not recharge.
How did you prevent that on yours?
Your wires probably touched
Did you find a good low voltage cutoff protector? I'm looking for one now.
How long does the battery ride?
Kinda depends on the weight of the driver and any passengers as well as terrain, but 45 minute is common with the Flexvolt.
So I did the exact thing. Except a Milwaukee battery. But my fuse keeps blowing. What would be the reason for that?
Only thing that would cause that would be a short from positive to negative before it goes into the controller.... Just a theory without seeing your setup.
Having the same issue... The in-rush current on those motors is spiking if you have more weight in the car. Does the fuse blow under no load (wheels off the ground)?
I found out the problem. The positive came undone and kept shorting the fuse. Resoldered it and it works fine now. Thanks for the replies!
I changed mine to a 30A breaker with a slower response and it’s working great
U dont need the usb charger, Amazon sells the proper adapter, called power wheels adapter to dewalt
You’re correct. Those weren’t yet available at the time this video was made. Nice to have ready made options!
What do I need to do if I want to wire two of these dewalt 20volts in a series?
two 20 volts in series will give you 40 volts..... 40 volts will likely burn up your wiring and motors pretty quickly.... they'll turn into smoke. But, if you want to do it, you basically just connect battery #1 negative to battery #2 positive. Then you are left with a positive lead from battery #1 and a negative lead from battery #2. Those two leads will connect to the vehicle + and -.
@@TractorHoarders got it! So if I don’t want to burn up the motors I should put a voltage regulator?
@@BoEnglish1 yes, correct… that will let you reduce the voltage
How long did the battery last? Run time
Not exactly sure, but it seems the big one can go about an hour depending on terrain and stop and go.
So the same time than the stock battery ?
What gauge wire is everyone utilizing?
12G is most commonly used on power wheels
what about 24v truck?
You can do it but the higher the voltage, the higher likelihood that your existing wires and motors will burn up under a load or extended usage.
Wouldn't it have been much easier using a smaller battery and the 18-20 volt adapter that way you still have a built in discharge monitor?
I’m not sure I understand. What component would serve the purpose of the discharge monitor?
@@TractorHoarders lithium batteries will not take a charge again if the voltage drops too far. So a voltage disconnect would save the batteries from an early death.
Built into those batteries, not the tools
@@dakillaklown715
What if you dont use the motor controller? My kids are going to want the full 20v all the time anyway.
That’s perfectly fine, and you’re right. My son wanted it up all the way all the time.
On kobalt car rear wheels turn opposite directions why it is brand new
That’s interesting. So in reverse, it goes forward? And vice versa? Sounds like maybe they reversed the battery terminals within a connector somewhere.
What's the run time of the 20V?
Did the 60V work if so what's the run time on the 60V?
Victor Rodriguez I’ve never really measured it but I feel like the 20v 5ah battery lasts about 30 minutes. The 60v Flex Volt (20v 9ah?) lasts about an hour.
randomly found this while taking a break, i think i'm your neighbor..........
haha! Small world!
I like your idea but you didn't show the flexvolt battery and you didn't show how high you turned up the controller
Hello, because I used an adapter for 20 volts, the Flexvolt battery also operates at 20 volts and you just get longer run time. If I ran it at 60 volts, I would fry the motors in a heartbeat which was not a goal of mine. 😊
How much run time does this give?
What about putting the controller on the foot pedal?
How are you preventing the lithium battery from completely discharging?
I'm not. I realize that I should, but maybe in the future...
Just let them have fun but dont drain it all the way
I’ve ruined two of my batteries so far 😂
Actually your batteries arw fine, theyre just to weak to tell the charger to start charging. If you hook up a positive and negative lead from battery then connect them to another battery for about 30 sec. Now you can charge the battery that was drained
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I did the same thing to my kids 12v f150, but it keeps on popping the fuse and wires get hot. Anybody know how to fix this?
This may not help but we did blow some fuses over time. It would do it more with more load… like more/heavier kids, or off-road, or going up hills. On relatively flat ground with one kid, we were fine.
That’s exactly what I did for my kids except I’m using the Milwaukee 12v and 18v battery and that thing rolls through sand mud tears right through it.
Makes a huge difference! Excellent work!
Wait, not both at once right?
@@RentADad I think he meant like one in each car since he said kids.
I use my 18v Milwaukee battery too but fuse keeps popping and wires get hot. Any idea why or how to fix this?
@@jessehuerta1946 more bigger cable gauge
Omg toddlers arguing about what power wheels is better like adults
i did the same steps but what happened is the motors gets burned after while
Your fuses don’t blow before the motor?
those batteries (stock power wheels 12v) now cost 92 bucks...inflationary times
Dang for real? You can find 2 dewalts on sale for around that price. And the dewalts won’t take 3 months to get a full charge lol...
@@Mr_Daddy1980 for sure. I have upgraded 3 power wheels now and eliminated the stock batteries. 2 are using m18 Milwaukee generic batteries and 1 has 2 dewalts. Look up "altered component" if you want to see our full build.
Let's see 60v!