How to upgrade Power Wheels / 18 Volts on a 40,000RPM MOTOR!
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- čas přidán 17. 02. 2020
- Upgrading a Power Wheels motor is a must for bringing some excitement into your kids life. I have changed the motors on many of my daughters Power Wheels and today it is time to upgrade yet another Power Wheels motor with a much faster one. I take you step by step in how easy it is to change out one of these motors so you too can see your kids face light up with their new incredibly fast Power Wheel. I listed some parts down below, links to different motors and such that I personally have used in several of our cars that have worked very well for us. Again make sure whichever motor you buy has the steel gear in it as it will be your best bet for longevity. Thanks for checking us out! As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
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Be sure to check out the links in the description, the motors and parts that I have used in these power wheels are listed for your convenience to locate and order if you are looking to do any of these mods. Thanks!
This video has reached 4k people as of now. Very cool how something like this can reach as many people as it has all around the United States; World for that matter. Thank you!
Thank you so much for listing parts
Thanks for listing parts! Would you say this is easy for someone who is not electrically savy? 😬
Not too difficult. Just know with any of these mods you have entered the world of just fuckin sending it. Don’t worry about craftsmanship, just try and put a smile on their face; safely.
I would say go for it. Life is short, make those memories. Who cares if you burn up a motor or two in the process. ❤️
If you have overheating issues with this type of motor you should allow some airflow by drilling holes into the plastic. Also you should get a Motor cooler, it's the same principle as a PC's cooler but specifically for these motors (also comes with a little fan for extra cooling power). I've been using them in my high powered RC cars for a long time and never had a motor burn out on me!
For a lot of power wheels / Kid Trax you can if you like put a motor on the OTHER rear wheel on the opposite side and tie it into the same cabling (swap polarity on the motor) which will increase your torque and traction.
Best video I've seen on the topic so far. Thank you! I put a 12Ah lifepo4 in my 10 month olds with remote control and just had an rx43/and 40,000 rpm motor delivered. After watching your video I think I'll get some slower motors until he gets a little older😂 the lithium battery already makes a nice difference.
Thank you very much, much appreciated!
Your video may be the most informative so far! Thanks bro!!
Thanks for stopping by!
Dads like us make the world go around
Absolutely
Amen haha
Loved the video, You should upgrade that wire to get the current to those new motors. I would recommend at least 12awg or larger.
Yea I have some sky high wire lying around, I should switch everything out it would probably help with heat for sure. Why have been fun to mess around with.
So i'm looking at doing my first mod on a ride on (Blazin Wheels 12V UTV Wild Cross). Got it free from a neighbor and while it seems to be charging the battery, the car won't go forward and backwards for more then about 2 seconds.
I'm following the link you have for the 40k and you had mentioned in the video that it had the metal gear, but the amazon page shows it as having a plastic gear. is there a different one to use at this point? Though I'm basing it off the first picture and the inner gearbox picture and the show plastic gears
Great video, Sir! I have Just started to update our vehicle
Thank you kindly!
Question: How do you charge it? Can you charge it using normal power wheel charger or do you have to take the batter off to charge it separately?
Can the 12v 40000rpm run on a 12v battery? I recently switched motors out and now the power wheels does not move. The standard were 10000rpm motors. But one was grinding so I upgraded.
So, 18 Volts won't burn up the controller or lights in this model? Been wanting to convert one of these for my son with two 6v or two 12v motors and 18v battery.
Thanks
Have had nothing but success over here. I offer no warranties however! 🤣
Hi, I have also a 6v battery car with a 6v motor. I changed the battery with a 12 v, it didn't fried the motor, but the motherboard wasn't so lucky. Luckily I found a second one, exactly the same( don't ask, my son just want it). Here is my question, how do I use better 12 v battery and 12v motor without breaking the mother board? Thank you.
Great Video. Does the BMW come with a circuit board? I'm reading that the circuit board will fry when converting to 18v. Wondering if you've experienced that issue.
Some cars seem to have issue with while others do not. None of mine have had any issues. It’s more of a gamble than anything, however if the original motors go then it’s not much of a gamble.
I did this to my child’s 12v car…upgraded the battery to a power tool battery of 18v and got these exact motors she will drive for a bit and then the car won’t drive for a little bit so we turn it off and the. Back on and she can go again any idea on why it is stopping?
Is the gearbox universal can fit in any wheel like your child car? i just order one and afraid that it won't fit to my child car wheel..
I was wondering if upgrading the a 12v battery to 18v can damage other electronics such as the light and radio ?? and if adding a hit sink can reduce the temperature of the 40k RPM motor
I got a Hot Wheels ATV hunting style for my 5 year old boy and I don't understand why you turn the steering wheel right and the wheels go left it didn't used to do that any opinions??
Great video! You have inspired me to tackle fixing my grand-daughter's FEBER Land Rover. 1 of the 2 6V motors burned up. I thought of putting in 2 12v motors, but can't find ones with 8 tooth gear. suggestions?
Thank you
Would this work with a Remote control driven as in I have a remote I control the Range Rover what's it called
Hello,
Do you know a website other than Amazon to order parts? Also, it would be nice to have a lexicon with the names of the parts. It would be easier to search for the parts on the net afterwards.
Thank you very much for the video!
Looking to get a Lamborghini Aventador ride on, it's 12v is conversion possible on all brands and makes but to 24v
My DC motor keeps popping fuses and I’d be willing to bet this would fix it! Both rear wheels have motors I need to upgrade!
How do you wire the voltage controller.? Just ordered parts for the same car and was curious?
Battery to voltage controller i,n voltage controller out, to motor
That thing only had 1 motor? Thanks for the info. Ordered 2 of these for my daughter's corvette. The corvette has 1 for each wheel.
Preaty cool salute to you 🎉
So i ordered the 30kv 12v and it fried the first day but the stock 6v lasted over a month on 18v milwaukee battery.
Michael Gerschwiler that’s so unfortunate. I too have had the same thing happen to me
Love you concept and wanted to know if you could provide some guidance on upgrading my little ones car. I am however located in South Africa
Did you do the upgrade?
why wouldn't you put a 24v battery and motor in? Would it last longer?
Have you considered running a cooling fan for the motors- the clip on type straight to the motor would drop the temps.👍
Thought about it!
Did the motor lasted long enough? Thinking about upgrading mine while keeping the 12v battery but going from a 12000rpm motors to a 40000 thinks it would make a good difference?
It makes a pretty big difference, not as much as the battery though. And none of these modifications are for longevity. It is for pure fun.
Have you had a chance to replace just the electric motor? If so, do you have to keep the original gear on the old motor? Or can you use the new gear that is smaller on the new motor?
I have a car like this and it has an RX18 12V (15ah) receiver and 2 12v 12000rpm motors. It came with 2 6V 4ah batteries. For an upgrade, what I did was buy 2 new 12v 35000rpm motors and a 12v rx43 receiver (40ah). Now that I have installed everything the car has no power to pull out it and I just don't know what to do. When it finishes charging the batteries it has the power to pull out well or 2 or 3 times at inclined location, but if it's at a straight track it pull out normally and get high speeds. If I need new batteries, what is the best combination? 2 new 6V batteries powerful, 1 new 12V or 2 new 12 batteries?
I would switch it over to a Milwaukie battery at 18v
@@SkylerStutzman hey how has this setup worked for you ... my son is 4 ... and want to make his car faster ... ...but i dont wanna be switching motors want to say set it and forget it after i do it ... lmfao
Get a voltage regulator off amazon. I left links in the description of everything you should use to have a wicked setup! 🍻
I have a 12 volt fiat 500. What should I do to increase it to 18 or 24 volts? What do i need to change?
ho una fiat 500 a 12 volt. Cosa devo fare per incrementarla a 18 o 24 volt? Cosa devo cambiare?
I hope everyone trying this remembers to add an appropriate fuse when upgrading batteries. Would be a very different finish to the video if your test subject turns to test BBQ.
I parallel 4 step up boost controller, put 0.22r 5w resistor on each + out. Then i bump up the motor voltage 20%. At first motor heat up too fast, then i drill a hole near the motor and attach 9cm ball bearing fan blewing out. Salvaged it from old cctv decoder. Small fan with high rpm, loud but it works😁.
Been more than a year with that set up, still working. Now, I want to put higher rated motor. Btw, im using ups mf battery with more amps than stock one. A lot wider, but still fits.
I saw your video, very interesting but I wanted to ask you for information. I also have a 12 volt car and want to buy the same 40000 RPM 12 volt RS 550 motors. Will the car go as fast as your video? Or is it necessary to increase the volts?
Ho visto il tuo video, molto interessante ma volevo chiederti informazioni. Anche io ho una macchina a 12 volt e voglio comprare gli stessi motori RS 550 a 40000 RPM 12 volt. La macchina andrà veloce come il tuo video? O è necessario per aumentare la forza i volt?
Great video, that kid can drive! I've got a twin motor Hummer that I want to upgrade to run on grass, about to install 18v, but what motors do you think would be best? Torque more important than speed! Thanks!
madbroon95 I have ran many different setups but I would be more curious to see how it does on 18 volts first before changing the motors. The stock motors can last a long time without replacing them. I have links down below to batteries and the 3D printed battery holder to get a proper setup going for your Hummer.
Thanks for the quick reply! I'm going to try it on my 18v Makita batteries and see how it runs then. Bought a speed controller too, it was a free broken Hummer from Facebook but hopefully the motors will last a while with the 18v!
@@Fuzz.Buzz.Stop.Motion report back and let us know how it goes.
How did it go? I'm interested in doing the same thing.
Hi did you change 12v controller board also? The one you can use remote for the car thanks
Skyler, I upgraded my child’s i8 with the parts you recommended. I’ve switched the battery out now maybe 6 or 7 times. Lately it will run for about 3 seconds and then turn off, after about 5 seconds it turns back on. I hear a small click inside the motor when it turns on back. You think I fried it already? FYI I left all the wiring stock so the fuse is still there as well, not sure if this is tripping it.
Email me some pictures so I can see your setup and help you out if I can!
Stutzmanskyler@gmail.com
Ever get a fix for this my little mans i8 is going through the same thing, I am about to gut the controller for steering and just wire with micro switches and batteries.
Hello Mr. Stutzman,
John in Maine here.
Hey!
Hello from Thailand 🇹🇭🇹🇭🙏🙏
How’s it going! Please share over there ❤️
Super helpful! I've got one of these things laying around the house and you're right...it's slower than dirt. Would it make the car even faster to do 2x 12v motors? This is going to be my first foray into modded ride-ons
It won’t make it any faster but it will split the load between the motors thus creating less heat and failure of the motors themselves. All the load being on one motor creates a lot of heat, heat over time leads to failure. Thank you! Make sure to subscribe and share the video on Facebook or something, everything truly helps out the channel!
@@SkylerStutzman right on. thanks for the help! Now I just need to make sure I get this PWM module wired correctly. I'm thinking to do 2x 12v motors with 2 larger 18v batteries wired parallel so we can get nice long rides out of it
The lithium batteries from our drill batteries will last a very long time. One 4ah battery last about 45-60 minutes of continuous run time. Cheers, report back and let us know how it went.
@@SkylerStutzman would running two motors cut that run time in half?
That would be a good question. I think it would have an effect on the battery life for sure, however. You will be running much more efficient, therefore I think that will cause less battery draw as well as the sustainability of a longer lasting setup. Only way to find out for sure would be to test between the two, however I would highly recommend just doing whatever is the easiest and enjoy it. Don’t make it too much of a science experience, after all the kid probably won’t care. 🤙🏼🤣
How long does it last on a Milwaukee battery? Sorry if it's been asked before.
About an hour to an hour and half
Anyone know where I can get a replacement model
For a Mercedes Benz g63 12volt for a kid I bought one but I can’t get the axel ! Company won’t help
Links in the description
@@SkylerStutzman Are you responding to my call for help lol not sure how this whole thing on CZcams works but it said I had a message or a response hope all is well don’t even know you lol lol
Yes, I left links in the description that will take you yo amazon. From there you will be able to find a lot of different things for these cars!
My daughter have the same bmw and I just did the upgrade to use my Milwaukee 18 volt battery but the car stops after a while all of the sudden and then starts after a few seconds.
Did you remove the thermal fuse on yours? I still have it on mine and maybe that is what it causing the problem
I did take that fuse out of the equation.
@@SkylerStutzman Thank you for the quick reply. I will remove the fuse as well.
Have you had any issues with the wiring getting to hot after removing it? I do have an in-line fuse holder that I can install. I am wondering a 20A fuse will work as a replacement for the thermal just to have some kind of protection
I honestly rock no protection, I am always watching however.
@@ivanaguilar5314 30A fuse seems to be commonly used. Get the kids to use it for a solid 10 mins and feel the wires. If they are not too warm you should be fine.
^^^ what he said
Let's just look for this 12v motor....to my princes audi rs8 ....I'm going to use 4ah 18v Bosch professional battery tho 👍🤓cheers .good video
Thank you sir! Please share if you enjoyed.
@@SkylerStutzman need to update what I discover .....well ...I was sure that motor was 6V...surprise...car has 2x 12V 16 RPM ....but 2 batteries 6v each and 4.5Ah ...both batteries r connected ....what's the solution here, please help....at the moment thing is weak and slow and last 45mins and slowly dies ...🤔🤦♂️I was hope that there is only 6V motor and single 6V battery ...how should I connect 18V 4aH bosch battery ?🤔thanks for any suggestions
So the motors are 12volt motors; that’s good. The battery setup is two 6 volt batteries wired in series; to get to 12 volts. What you are going to do is take out the barter system and find the main power wire (Red) and main ground (black) and wire those into the 18 volt battery, 12 volt battery or whatever battery setup you like. Don’t let the two 6 volt batteries wired in series confuse the situation too much.
@@SkylerStutzman ....well....car is no longer allowed in living room....burned 2 floor panels 🤦♂️...and have to replace them now..😡car is much more alive ....faster and stronger ...will need to get a battery adapter ...and figure out a fuse system to prevent the potential fire🙄cheers ...ps ...all works and even remote still control the car .
#Culdesac life...well done sir
James Pratt thank you very much.
So if you wire it backwards you can just plug it in backwards and it should work
Yes.
Did you consider adding a 2nd gearbox?
I have considered yes!
The powerwheels brand has different gearbox and the motors are 12V or 12 Turns.
They're gear accordingly because different cars has different wheels size.
I run them on 5s 50C lipo.(STOCK)
They havnt burnout, yet. I do know they cant handle 6s 50C lipo.
it also depends on the LI ON batteries you're using. Different power drill has different
C ratings...( the 18-20V) are 5s 18650 lion...20C or 30C.
I made 6s x3 2200 mah 15C pack ( 6600 mah)...but they;re used recycled at only 15C.
so I increase it to 6s. The 5s LIpo at 50C still out perform it...due to higher discharge C ratings..But it;s close...it'll do power slides and donuts.
I take them on 2 -3 miles drive or to the park all the time...
Everything is STOCK.except for the Lipo batteries.
I get the cars USED( $35-$50) for cheaper than the batteries.lol
i have the Bug and quad..ive ran it on 18V....but most of the time I run it on 3s 50C
for the 1 1/2 yr old...lol....All the kids learn on the bug.lol
You'll go through wheels...becuase of the powersilde and donuts.lmao
DO NOT put bike tires on the rear....it'll grip and jerk the car and WONT power silde/drift.
You can get vinyln trim...( lower wall trims...$2.50 ea)...it's flat.
It'll grip..but will still power slide
Do use bike tires for the front...so it'll grip.
If you dont...after the plastic wears...it'll UNDER STEER...or the car wont
turn no matter how much they turn the steering wheel.lmao
Or..gardening divider ( $30 p/ 3O feet roll) it's just 4mm thick flat harder plastic.
It takes...work..becuase the plastic is stiffer. ..and you'll have to COUNTER SUNK
the FLAT HEAD sheet metal screws..so it'll sit as flush as it can...So it WONT GRIP.lol
They'll figure out how to do powerslide and donuts..It's sort of like a little bumper
car for them. More work.....but it is what is. They wont drive it..unless it drift.lmao
Or get used power wheels every month for $30..lol
They're always on sale on FB market or swamp meets...ect
I could had purchase 4-ea the other day...but i have 12 cars already.lol
I have nephews and grand kids...it's like a mad house in my front yards..
when I get 6 kids on powerwheels racing/drifting on 18v-20V.lmao
Try installing another motor on the other side....but why..just get a used power wheels
for $30.lol
I have Not powerwheels brand 12V with 2 -ea motors... I ran it on 18V...
The powerwheels gose faster...due to gearing. Th e kids wont ride it..becuase
they know which one is faster.lol
It a lender carlol
Thank you for sharing all that info, that was a fantastic amount of info!
@@SkylerStutzman would really love to see two motors on that bmw just bought one but my son tested it was screaming faster couldnt help with that but push the thing... now it just sits on the corner untouched...
Something I still need to do for sure
Do you have to wire in regulator or fuses or anything, or just run it straight to a DeWalt battery from the motor?
You use single motor or double motor ?
The wheel is not moving for me what should I do?
Need further explanation
7 months later, how are these holding up? Thanks!
Joshua Campbell I have gone through another motor and have converted a couple other power wheels over to 18volt. Heat is the killer in these things. The more they ride them the more likely they are to kill the motors.
Between all the motor upgrades I’m surprised that little rubber strip on the plastic wheel grips.
upgrading my kids 4 wheeler like your pink one. Blew the motor with 20v Dewalt to the 6v motor. Put a drill motor in there, but still slow. Can you post a link or do video to the pink quad with regulator?
DAVE KNOTT I will do a video here soon. Stay posted. 🤙🏼
@@SkylerStutzman thanks, I looked around but didnt see much on that mod topic. Much appreciated, even if it's a quick video. I have a feeling with the regulator it still has a cap, though allowing the full voltage to pass through increasing speed?
Doesn’t have a cap. You will be able to turn down the voltage that the motors are seeing from the battery regulating the speed of the motors to your comfort level per child.
Links to all the things I am using I left a link in the video so that you would be able to find these mods a little bit easier. The 3D printed blocks to be able to mount your dewalt drill battery or Milwaukee is a very nice feature to have that makes everything very clean.
@@SkylerStutzman saw the links, and always much appreciated!
I bought my son one of those cheap chinese tractors off amazon. Its awesome, has features my real john deere doesnt have. I upgraded the motors from 15k rpm to 20k when one went bad. They were 10 bucks a pop and made a huge difference in the way the tractor drove. When he is sick of this thing i might get the 50k's and see if we can melt the wheels. The motors swap easy, juat had to solder tge original harness to tge new motor.
Btw my cheapo motors came with a red dot next to the positive stud so i didnt have to guess
Sorry to keep replying to my own post but i also think getting cheap higher rpm motors, and maybe a better battery that is still the same voltage, is a safer way to achieve good results with less work. Either way the plastic gears will probably shred eventually but if they don't, you didn't really try your best.🤣
Is there a video of how’d you connect the Milwaukee battery to the car?
On this car I just have the positive and negative plugged straight into the battery. However there is a 3D printed Milwaukee battery adapter that I have since put on all of my cars. I left the link in the video for you to be able to find easily! 🤙🏼
Also does the motor have to upgraded if swapping to an 18v Milwaukee
I ran the original 6volt motor until it blew
Looks great but you can make it even faster.
Thank you, I believe I just need deeper pockets like yourself.
With one motor is it one wheel drive?
Yes it is! It does very well as you can see, but I think it would def do better if it had two motors.
If you put another motor on the other side, it could reduce the stress on the other motor. There seems to be a hole for the motor. The question is what the other wheel looks like. Some vehicles have a different wheel, that doesn't have a place for the motor to attach. In that case, you would probably have to order a replacement wheel, for the motor side. Some vehicles, however, have identical wheels, and a removable spacer, to take the place of the motor. That's the most ideal case.
Did u use the stock esc on the bmw?
Yep, changed nothing else out tbh
Yea i raced rc cars for years and i juat bought the bmw for my daughter couldnt wait to get my hands on it haha nice vid btw.
Do u think i should get the speed controller for it though just incase or dont worry about it? Like for backup.
Thank you very much
As you seen on the pink quad, I installed a controller. It makes it nice so that you can put it exactly where you want it. Worth the 18 bucks I suppose.
how long does that battery last?
About 45-1hr of continuous run time. Easily.
If you want to save those motors get a large (500uF) capacitor that is more volts than your motor (50V for a 20V battery) and put it between the positive and negative on the motor. It acts like a shock absorber for electromagnetic spikes inside the motor when you're running higher voltage and start/stop like these things do. Blew a few before learning this trick. Keeps temps way down.
You can also put a self-recovering fuse inline so that if the motor is getting too hot that fuse will trip instead and stay tripped until it cools down.
Hey Doc, got a link?
@@lukeschlitzer5460 Amazon has. You'll notice there is usually one on the stock 6v motor already.
Hey man i need some hel with the wiring
What do you need to know
I have the exact same car and I can’t get mine to work
Start tearing into it
These drill batteries do not have low voltage protection. A better idea is adding a low voltage cut off board and they are quite inexpensive compare to a battery
For what reason exactly?
@@SkylerStutzman lithium batteries will be permanently damaged if over-discharged
You mean like when you use them in your drill and run it completely out of power.
I think you are mistaking lithium and lead acid batteries.
@@SkylerStutzman nope, the tools won't start under a certain voltage. But no protection circuit on the battery itself. You can do a quick search to tell if I'm right or not Here is one havocware.com/power-wheels-milwaukee-battery-run-time-tests-low-voltage-protection-installation/
I’ll take a gander. Thanks for the info!
She's too cute. I did something similar to my sons car and he wouldn't drive it LOL
If direct power straight to the motors you can get 15mph off 12v battery
Do you have a video or something I can watch this from. That sounds awesome. Would love to see how to gain anything more from these things.
@@SkylerStutzman I just have on off switch hooked under the pedal and when it turns off the gears will slow it down to a stop in a second. My son weighs about 45 lbs now and he still rides it and calls it his drift car cause the wears spin so much with those plastic wheels but couldnt afford all that extra stuff and we picked it up from DI for $5 and I did put the 18v dewaukt drill battery in a for a minute but someome was going to get hurt so i took it out lol
Hell yea! Well thanks for stopping by. If you liked it do me a favor and share it, much appreciated!
@@SkylerStutzman I'll find it and share for sure
Thanks!
Remote controller board is too hot, car stopped
If it's a 12 volt why not put a 12 volt motorcycle battery
Because an 18v drill battery can supply way more power
With those $14 Motors you're getting why don't you spend an extra ten bucks and get yourself some heat sinks for a 550 case motor. And some small 40 mm fans. That's what I did and I'm running 20 volts on a two stock 550 case Motors. And with the heat sinks and fans they run sub Ambien Even In the Heat of the day
🤙🏼
Should just go brushless, and never change motors again. Its not too complicated converting to brushless..
Im doing this but those wheels annoy me too loud lol
Lol