FMK Elite Pro - Glock Killer or Malfunction KING?
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2020
- Hey everyone! We are back and with more content on the way than ever before! Today we check out the FMK Firearms Elite Pro. This Gun was the most interesting we have reviewed to date! Take a look and see just why we believe this specific pistol is the WORST gun we have ever shot on the channel. Let us know your thoughts, personal experiences and which malfunction you thought was the worst in the comments! Thank you to all the veteran subscribers that have stuck with us, we cannot express how thankful we are for you and welcome to all the new kids! We appreciate you and hope to continue to bring valuable videos like the ones that brought you to us! Thanks everyone! Be safe, stay vigilant and train hard!
Had the exact same problems with the regular FMK 9C1 G2. But I live a few miles from them, their customer service is great.
Gerry that's great to hear about the customer service! Not so great to hear about the issues 😔 did they fix your gun or replace it altogether?
@@rmaarms114 FMK did fix my original problem where it wouldn't go into battery straight out of the box when I first bought it. Brought it to them, they replaced the extractor and it was fine. Stayed in the safe for about 5 months, I took it to the range and I was getting all the problems you were having, weird jams, double feeds, that same problem I saw where you removed your slide and the recoil spring was hanging off. I purchased a new recoil spring but haven't tested it yet....will let you know if it helped when I take it to the range but I don't think it'll help to be honest. Great video 👍. I can say that FMK are very nice people in person, hopefully I'll get all the bugs fixed in the future.
@@paredg2 Great info! We figured the people of FMK would be cool. Keep us updated and hopefully they can bring out some updated models that run good! We're rooting for them!
@@rmaarms114 Well....took it to the range hoping for the best....and no good. Going to call FMK tomorrow and make an appointment to drop it off. Just giving you the update. 😊
@@paredg2 That's a bummer man, thanks for letting know!!
Really happy you came back amigo
Thanks
Thanks brother we are too!
This was a fantastic video. Thank you!
Try replacing the stock recoil spring with a stainless steel recoil spring for a Glock 19 Gen 3 from NDZ Performance. That should solve the problem of the recoil spring falling out upon breakdown of the pistol and possibly the slide not going into battery.
It's the recoil spring not strong enough
That intro earned my sub real fast, glad I found your channel
I just read the manual. I wonder how much of these double feeds are from not letting the slide return on its own with spring when in forward position or not using slide release when in back position. I just read that can cause jams. I had issues with mine this week. Gonna try and go back out there and adjust my loading technique. When it shot man was it accurate.
I have two of these, about a year apart, they are FMK9C1G2 via Frontsight. I have had repeated
Type 3 (double feed) issues with both. BTW, I had to install FAT in each as the double action only would tax my finger after less than 50 rounds. I sent the first back to FMK (after they sent me a new extractor, which I had no trouble installing and which provided no improvement). They sent it back to me with a : new trigger, new extractor, new firing pin and two new magazines. I have tried it out over the last six months and still have double feed issues every 10 to 40 rounds. I now refer to it as my "type 3 malfunction trainer". The second gun, which seemed to have the same issue, has somehow self corrected after a few hundred rounds and some detailed cleaning. I also, surprisingly, had a similar issue, which you had, with the magazines: they shook like a baby rattle. (I discovered this by accident). I corrected the issue by disassembling the magazines, cleaning them and dressing the edges of the plastic followers with a light sandpaper to remove a slight "flashing" from the manufacturing process (they are 10 round mags). I also noted failure to go into battery if the slide was not racked aggressively. I had a problem clearing the double feed once or twice the other day when I realize that the spent casing was not being grasped by the extractor during "rack rack rack" because the slide wasn't going forward into battery: I wound up having to push the slide forward during each rack.
Bought this gun mainly for the price and getting into RDS. Feed fails and misfires at the range from the get go. Contacted the factory and they responded quickly. I'm guessing they realize that their products had major issues. They sent me a new ejector and recoil spring. After installing, had to wait for ranges to open back up. When I finally got in to shoot, nothing but feed fails again. The factory had me send the gun back for repair (at my expense). A few weeks later got it back and the first few rounds jamming occurred. But, then it seemed to smooth out and I put 350 rounds through nicely. I love the feel of this gun in the hand and really want to like it enough to rely on it, but...I am very hesitant. I will keep trying and see if it fails again or perhaps they finally fixed it. I like how quick and efficient the company service is, what they stand for, and that they are trying...but, for this type of product fails are NOT something that should be in the vocabulary.
Sorry to hear about that brother thanks for sharing your experiences! Hope it continues to shoot well for you!
Is FMK owned by Newsom, Feinstein and Harris by chance? LOL...
😂😂😂
My brothers a dem and has an fmk. Took it to the range and I told him to put it away before it blows up. Horrible with jamming. I'd still have an easier time pissing passed an inflamed prostate then thay thing can extra a casing... I'll stick to my glock
Sick video!! Bummer about the malfunctions though. The guy at 5:04 looks kinda silly.
Yeah, we only let him out once a month
Yes. Your back. Congratulations. Now I will watch the video.
Thank you!!!
@@rmaarms114 content looking good. Too bad on the FMK. Almost bought one. I bought a Diamondback FS9 instead. The Glock killer. Lol
@@JAM4MORE Thanks brother, the diamondback was a much better choice! Lol
I recently got my FMK standard 9C1. Have only taken it to an indoor range once and put about 100 rounds through it. No malfunctions to really speak of. No double feeds or anything like you've experienced. My only issue so far is the mag doesn't drop free. I have to hit the release and then pull it out. Also, the spring always drops out when I remove the slide. Aside from that, no other issues. Going to try to take it to the range again this coming weekend, and do another 100 and hopefully it stays problem free.
If you haven’t yet the Mac problem is because of the California state triggered that they put on it if you get the fast action trigger that problem will go away
@@bubaa1218 I sold that one a long while ago. I have a Sig now. No issues
I'd trust my life with a high point before fmk
Based on my brother's experience testing Hi Points, I'd say you are right.
Same problem except the double feed. Have not run into that yet. I have the FMK elite, I'm not exactly sure what the difference is with the elite and elite pro plus...however, failure to battery, failure to feed, and failure to chamber with almost every magazine. I have 1 mag where I can hear the rounds rattling around I few knocks and taps and it fixes but I'm a little upset about the quality. Same as you my expectations were high and didnt even come close
Sorry to hear about that brother! Hopefully fmk will fix these and make better guns! Thanks for watching and letting us know your experiences 🤙
Just saved me some money! Thanks
When the first FMKs were released I had reservations about the pistol, and I held off until I could read reports from other users. It was a mixed bag, so I stayed away from them. Then the G2 version was released. Again I waited - until now. I got my first one today and tried it out. Aside from not being able to hit anything and the constant jamming with 115 grain FMJ RN ball, it was fine (sarcasm). Too bad, it has a nice feel and a good price. I was hoping it could serve as an inexpensive truck/car pistol, but not at this rate. Anyone have any suggestions? I don't own a boat, so an anchor is out.
Well I heard back immediately from FMK, but the news was disappointing.
"Yes the break in period is around 500 rounds. How many have you fired through it so far? Most factory ammo will work fine. Remington UMC and Speer Lawmen 115g are what we recommend for the pistols. We have found that light reloads, Russian steel case ammo and Winchester white box do not work consistently."
I’ve had mine about 2 years put a great amount of rounds in it and never had a jam until today...the quick fix for that is don’t use blazer 9mm ammo 😂 but other than that no any other malfunction great gun especially for its price..I’m going to convert into the elite pro
Same here
Totally agree. Have owned a G2 for a few years and I have nothing but praise. Unless I use blazer or white box winchester
A quality gun will run anything. Have literally run 10's of thousands of rounds of blazer through glocks, cz's , s&w and walther with no issues. Based on this video I would trust my life to a taurus g3 before this thing.
I just purchased the FMK 91CG2 and took it to the indoor range 3 times. Put through it 300 rounds with no issues.
Perhaps I'm a pillar of ignorance; but the HK VP70 is the first polymer framed striker fired pistol created back in 1970. Yes, Glock perfected the shortcomings that held back the HK, and became the most sought after pistol in the world. Just about every other polymer framed 9MM striker fired pistol on the market is now a clone of the Glock. These guns are fairly simple mechanisms, and they should cost appropriately. If you can't make a quality clone of a Glock for under $300- then don't make the gun. If a 9mm striker fired polymer hand gun costs more than $300-, it should come with a happy ending.
Best comment I've read in a while! So true. Thanks for that and thanks for checking us out!
We can only hope that FMK will watch these videos and corrected all of the problems they are having. Many Gun Companies had to go through problems of some kind and was able to overcome it.
I have an elite pro plus and my only complaint is the fast action trigger is worse than any factory glock I've shot. But after the recommend 200 to 300 break-in rnds I haven't run into those issues idk if I just lucked out because I see so many fmk fail videos 😅
Guess I'll take this one off of my purchase list ...
I purchased one of these in FDE about 1 1/2 years ago and it's shot great! I've never had any issues with FTE's, FTF or RTB issues... I've easily put just over 1K rounds through mine of all sorts fixed ammo - all shot reliably... My only complaint is the DAO trigger - it's pure garbage! Aside from the long and heavy trigger pull - it doesn't allow the mags to drop freely... Unfortunately that was done on purpose by the manufacturer as one of the requirements of the firearm being manufactured here in the "Peoples Republic of Kommefornia"... So when someone complains about the mags not dropping free - it's not a manufacturing defect - but rather the DAO trigger working as intended... Should you have this trigger - replace it with their newer FAT 804 trigger... Not only will you have a nice short trigger pull - but your mags will drop freely! This one upgrade made one hell of a difference in shot placement as well... I had to fight the other trigger to get good consistent shot groupings with it... With the new trigger- no problem at all... Bullseye all the time! It's really unfortunate that their quality control doesn't seem to be up to par with most other manufacturers... Maybe that will change as time goes by...
That was a nice draw and pull video on the target
So in this case a sharp stick might be a better option? Hope you follow up with us regarding what FMK says and does. I don't own any FMK products.
As of now a stick is definitely better haha there a couple dudes in the comments that have had the same issues and have sent their guns to them multiple times and still have had issues so I think it's safe to safe they just need to make a new gun 🤷
Btw the way what holster are you using? Can find one
I have the old model and haven’t had any problems with it. I’m planning on getting another one just because.
Would not trust mine with my life. Tried many different ammo, it has failure to feed and eject, also has failure to go into battery after ever shot now. Have taken it apart so many times, swapped in the newer trigger. :(
I got one. Simply because it is so comfortable in the hands.
It broke and is currently back in California
What holster do u use ??
I just got fmk 9mm elite pro plus I have not had any of the problems you have had mine runs fine
Mine run that same way planing on bring it back for a better pistol
Just sent mine back to FMK, had the double feeding issues but none of the other one. Hoping it comes back in a few weeks and runs like it should! Otherwise ill be picking up a P365 XL
Thanks for sharing! Let us know how you like the 365xl if you get it! Hoping to test one here soon!
@@rmaarms114 So I got the FMK back and it still had the same issues if not worse! After the gun heated up, I noticed the barrel could wiggle around in the slide more, causing the FTE.
I ended up picking up the Sig and took it out yesterday and its a blast to shoot!
That's a bummer to hear man but glad the 365 came through!!
My neighbor and myself have a FMK pistol and never have experienced a problem with our pistols!
The AOR1 Defcons though! 🥵
Ive had mines for a while and its been a great gun for me
Have an FMK it was picky on rounds for break-in. It's good to run a hot heavy round for break-in. It wouldn't cycle Winchester till it was broke in. But then again neither would my Ruger SR9
Sounds like it had the wrong guide rod spring. Very common with some guns when you start mounting optics and muzzle brakes. My APX doesn't like optics..
Everything good? This is your first upload in like 3 years
Yes it is! A lot has happened in the last three years but timing is better and we have grown a lot as people and shooters since then and it's time to get back on the horse! Thanks for the support!
I have an FMK elite pro as well, and I'm have the same issues. Just reached out to FMK, well see what they have to say.
sorry to hear that brother so far based on what we have seen and heard is that fmk has great customer service so they should be able to help you out. Let us know how everything pans out!
also i heavily reccomend the iwi masada its an optics ready pistol less than 500 bucks and tbh its got glock by the neck with it.
Bad mags ruin everything and that external extractor engineering needs improvement. Almost every other company has well engineered external extractors. There is something wrong with theirs!!
Agreed 100% Jim! Thanks for watching!!
What holster was that? Can’t find one that fits FMK
Compatible with Glock 19 accessories
from my point of view it looked as though you made it malfunction on your own at 4:55. you draw shoot and drop the mag from seeing it it looks like there was still a round in the chamber as you slap in a fresh mag whilst doing so you you go to rack the slide and with there still being a bullet in the chamber causing the double feed on your own. i wish not to sound rude when i point this out but from my pov thats what i see.
I just purchased one of these and I'm hoping I don't run into the same issues. 🙏🏽
So far so good for me I haven't ran into any of these issues, she shoots soft and accurate probably the most recoil friendly 9mm I've shot softer than my 2011.
Any issues yet? I’m looking into this one
@@albertov1632 no issues so far after about 600+ rds shoots accurate I'm really impressed . I liked it so much I purchased the fmk 9c1 g2 so far I got about about 150 rds on it no issues. So far so good . 👍🏼
Just ran 200 more rds and swapped the Burris Fastfire for a holosun 507k. Ran flawless and accurate,nice tight groups with the minimal feel of recoil with this pistol it's real easy to stay on target. 👌🏽
@@michaelgomez0807 good to hear ! I bought one today we’ll see how it treats me
The guy talking has had wayyy to many chicken tendies
You can never have to many tendies
What Ammo are you using The FMK only will shoot 115 grain. If you shoot 124 or 147 it will jam on you this hand guns made for 115 Ammo only.
Man! What's tha "secret" to gettin a gun to function RELIABLY, with a wide variety of ammo types, that EVERY other mfgr has figured out, but FMK din't get tha memo on?
Yup fired one today..no good!! Same thing for me double feed.and i tried diff mag,s..but same thing..and i hate the trigger..myself i would never trust it..thanks..
It's been great no problem yet 👍🇺🇸
I got the burris red dot for mine
Mine does not go to battery after shooting a round or two. Their rep tells me I need to keep my shooting arm locked in a straight position when shooting to keep the slide from hanging or not going to battery. The Burris Red Dot that came with it also would NOT stayed zeroed. It's a piece of garbage!
I think I might know what’s wrong I’m guessing they probably sent you 40 mags on accident maybe 🤔 double check and if that’s true I guarantee after that is fixed then no more issues.
I also have the Elite Pro Plus and mine has issues with going into battery just shooting round to round. I have had 2 extractors break and the latest issue, the Locking block aka Barrel Guide broke and the gun jammed up so bad I could not get the slide to lock back. FMK has been great getting me replacement parts. I sent the gun back in for the 1st extractor, but the one they replaced it with was chipped and they sent me another one and I replaced it myself. I hate that it is having all these issues because the gun really does feel good in the hand, but I feel like I am just going to sell this to the 1st guy that will buy it and get it out of my safe. I'd rather have a Bryco or Jennings...lol
Definitely feel your disappoinment brother! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Wish I had seen this video before I purchased an FMK. Just bought the wife a a 9c1 fresh out of the box. Tried it out the same day and very disappointed. Bad feed, jammed just about every bullet. It did not even shoot as good as the gun in this video 🙄. Going to bring this thing back for a better gun. Would not trust my life with this.
I have the cheaper version The Patriot 2 and I love the way it feels in the hand but the quality is very low.
The concept and design is excellent If Only They would up the quality of the build and the parts they would have something.
An American-made Glock knock off that was more ergonomic.
Recently purchased the basic model and so far has been a huge disappointment. Some of the same problems. I want this gun to work but would have to say don't waste your money.
Had a lot of the same problems. Went back to the factory and came back with the same problems. Buy something that works.
Wow, that's crazy. I bought a G2 as my first pistol, than ended up with a ppk and a gen1 shield. The other two are junk compared to the 1200 rounds I've dropped into my G2. I've had maybe 2 or 3 (?) Double feeds? 1000% for the lame white Winchester and Blazer I used. But hornady, sig, no issue... I still plan on getting a pro
Any new gun needs a breaking in period. And some are more tempermental due to ammo. If you go in with high expectations on a budget gun. You will get disappointed everytime. Give the a chance. 👍
My opinion you didnt ask for. But here it is. Mine is bar none the best of the carry pistols (10) that I have. However it was only after some upgrades and mods. Out of the box the gun was perfect. The mags were another story but some non cali compliant mags did the trick for me.
I trust mine with my life. Both of them actually as I have two. One to look at and one to use.
3000rds and not anything like what you have experienced.
You should have contacted FMK before bashing them. The customer service is the best hands down. Better than Springfield. Good luck with glock.
You may have received a used gun or just a flop. They are a tiny company and has a terrible reputation with the gen 1.
But the owners are true Patriots and I will support them forever.
They are in cali for a reason. To supply the stuck Patriots with something and they will sell you any part they have no questions asked. They employ very few people as I said they are small. So naturally QT will be hit or miss. I'll be it rarely now a days.
Hit them up. I guarantee you'll be impressed
I've shot mine several times and it has done well, but ill have to put more rounds through it to fully test it out. And if it dnt work then thank god I only paid a $100 for it from a "man of the streets".
There has to be something wrong inside of yours I’ve ran over 2000 rounds through mine have never even had a jam
Had sworn to not buy one after all the bad press and haters leveled your sights on nearly all of the models produced by this injection molding company. Recent events have put me in a favorable stance when I found a parts gun that some less than enlightened soul had tried to turn it into a combat ready killing machine. Not certain what they did to it, nor what they had hoped to achieve, but other than the barrel, most of it looks to be complete, even though it has no magazines, nor rear sights. It's likely to go seriously south, but so many folks have crapped all over this company, for unknown flaws that few have identified, that Its worth a spin.
Could have been 40cal mags instead of 9mm
Damn that sucks I'll leave the video Fyer seeing it's a bad one
It’s a lemon
Such a cool looking gun. Too bad it's junk
I keep my eye on FMK, lookin to see if any clear consensus develops... Any1 with recent experiences?
3y/o vid, but your experience takes tha cake! Pretty sure u got tha "MOAL"! (Mother of All Lemons) How could I not have seen any1 else complainin of the extractor issue, when rackin from rear? Did u somehow invent a new "issue"? Don't think u replied to any1 who suggested your mags could be .40 mags? U seem to know what you're doin, but your experience just seems too terrible to not have some explanation, beyond the "usual suspects"...
1. Not usin Glock mags = major fail!
2. Incorporating mag-disconnect into the "disposable" DAO trigger, requiring customers to spend another $65 bucks, just to get a "Glock'ish" trigger = major fail!
3. "Scalloped" slide (Maybe savin ali'l weight, but u CHOSE to make an area of the gun, that NEEDS to be EASY to grip, HARD to grip!) with no front serrations (Unless u spend $250 on the "Elite" slide!) = major fail
4. Every1 raves about their customer service, but tha fact that ALOT of ppl seem to NEED it, is telling. And, over and over, we see ppl sayin gun was returned, with EXACT SAME ISSUES, which would seem to indicate that they're try'na wear ppl down, in hopes that they'll just "go away"...
With injunction on Micro-Stamping, and a possible end of tha dreaded Roster, as we knowit, FMK's days will be numbered, if they don't get their s 2gether. Tha Roster has been shielding them, from competition, from other "budget-friendly" options...
Looks like sootch and the daily shooter had some good luck with this pistol. 🤷🏽♂️
at 1:40 i dont want to watch it any more :(
Mine is a Peace of junk
Malfunction king?
Good try but fail fmk
Close, but no cigar
I have an elite pro plus and my only complaint is the fast action trigger is worse than any factory glock I've shot. But after the recommend 200 to 300 break-in rnds I haven't run into those issues idk if I just lucked out because I see so many fmk fail videos 😅