Quarter vs Rift Sawn Wood
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- I’m going to rift saw and quarter saw this ash log with a bandsaw. As you remember from my previous videos the type of cut you get is all about the orientation of the tree rings. If rings are intercepting a plane between 30 and 45 degrees, you get a straight grain, that is a prime example of "rift sawn". The other type, "quarter sawn", when the grain is pretty much vertical. So you will have straight grain on two sides and cathedrals on other sides.
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Without a doubt the best description of the cuts of wood and why you would want to produce riftwood, quarter sawn wood and maybe plain wood. Thanks a million for clarifying this for your audience.
I subscribed thank you for pointing this out. I am so new. I have no idea what I’m doing. Thank you so much.
Great video! Thanks you from the next 5 years.
good video. I never heard of Rift sawn wood before. great job
Great video. I have been looking exactly for this! Thank you
such a well explained video, helped to see the boards cut afterwards too
Great explanation! Thank you!
Excellent video thank you.
A great explanation of the process. I have some ash logs I plan to mill this summer and would love to get some nice 3.5" square legs for a kitchen island. After finishing maybe 3" square, nice straight grain. Just wish ash had medullary rays.
Great video. Now I know the difference. Thanks
Very informative, thank you!
Great explanation thanks
+John Stanton good to hear
Such a good video
I like it too much . Its too much informative
Good Job
keep it up and move on
I just got right thing for my exam great work
super helpful - thnx!
AAAh finally I got it. thanks man. thumbs up
Love rift sawn red oak.
I think my brain just exploded! Love learning something new. Good Video. Thanks for the knowledge.
thanks!
Same here!
Lumbar Grain was wonderful back in the 1970s and today you have to practically custom order a simple piece of straight grain
Wouldn't cutting the quarter sawn lumber be done more easily on your Lucas swing blade sawmill?
please can you show something about tangential sawing
I finally understand the difference between flat, rift, and quartersawn. Of the 3 which is the best most stable cut?
Quartersawn
Quartersawn also produces modular rays, which is highly sought after with oak, especially in veneer stock.
Jeez. That was extremely helpful. I knew what quarter-sawn was, but the rest was true learning. Thank you. Can I ask an approximate rental price for that beautiful 36-inch mill?
I've never heard of anyone renting a sawmill. I bought a used Hudson Farmboss 36". Their support has been killer!
Do you suppose you're breaking even on equipment vs. lumber?
I am but that's going to depend on so many factors. I milled about 7,000BF of lumber from trees on our property that I will use to build the house, but I'm also able to use it for my business on going. So it's worth it for me. I also got a great deal on it. So you have to weigh the same type of things.
So isn’t every straight cut just one 90 degree rotation away from from being a quarter saw?
I'd say, yes. Especially in the case of his 2x2 legs, a flatsawn board becomes a quartersawn board of the same dimensions. But more commonly, you need to pick your face first!
See 10:14
That's all good but there is more to quatersawing hardwoods: Eucalypts (like the oaks) have pronounced growth stresses that need to be managed: check out how we deal with these on a horizontal bandsaw: czcams.com/video/72j4FiyCHCc/video.html
Rift sawn and quarter sawn refer to milling process not grain orientation. Rift sawn means cut radially. Look up definition of the word rift (one of) it means radial. Quarter sawn is cut from a quarter of a log. Traditionally the boards were cut diagonally, nowdays, they are cut parallel to the faces to reduce waste. True rift sawn will have the rings run perpendicular to face of the board; quarter sawn will have a mixture - some perpendicular, some at an angle. And you're not using either of those methods. What you're doing is flat-sawing the log and then cutting the boards up into smaller pieces.
Confusingly, the phrases "quarter saw(n)" and "rift saw(n)" each have 2 meanings. Quarter sawing is a milling method where the log is rotated 90 degrees before each cut. It results in a mixture of quarter sawn and rift sawn boards. When referring to boards, quarter sawn means the tree's growth rings are at least 60 degrees to the face of the board. Rift sawn boards have rings between 30 and 60 degrees to the face of the board.
Finally, and most nonsensically, rift sawing is a milling method that involves carefully sawing the logs radially/diagonally to produce the boards. None of the resulting boards are rift sawn, they're all quarter sawn.
Not one mention of the medullary rays which is what you are cutting at 10 or less degrees to get quartersaw. As you say that is why the log has the corners quartered and cuts are made nearly parallel to within 10 degrees of the rays. Hence the extra waste and more expensive boards. Nothing to do with the growth rings. 🤣😂😁😀😎
Rift does not mean Radial. The closest in the dictionary is Cleave or divide. The way he is cutting is only approximating Rift saw if that is the point. In the one by two or 2 by 2 he has drawn out on the log, only 1/2 by 1 inch will actually be rift. Rift sawn is a method of sawing but the method produces rift sawn wood or boards. You can't change physics by defining it based on grain direction. Example less than 30 degrees. He is approximating for furniture to get the best possible he can, but to do rift properly he needs more logs and the proper technique.
No
I started with Woodglut plans.
Your saw terms do not compute the only terms that I only know of are quarter or flat sawing the term you are using is a process that can not be dun on a band sawmill