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New Peterbilt 589 VS Old Peterbilt 389, The Death of a Legend….
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- čas přidán 18. 01. 2024
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personally my favorite peterbilts are the 359 and 379
Can't wait to see people converting these 589's back to 389's
These 589s need two piece shield and analog gauges really bad
@@Nikowalker007 the reason for the dual windows is because of fuel efficiency.
@@9133beta The idea behind a split window is repairs instead of replacing a whole windshield you only need to replace a section that's cracked saving you on repair cost.
@@nasheemwhye5197 notice how 1 big window is flat and 2 windows are shaped like a triangle
@@9133beta in something like a tractor trailer the aerodynamics of a split shield and a curve shield is negligent, its for looks/windscreen monopoly
Two things that don't go together. Die Hard Trucker and Bruce Wilson
Give the guy a break. He still wet behind the ears.🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Bruce Wilson is a wannabe
I love watching Bruce talk about trucks. It’s like a news anchor given 5 minutes to do research
I love how much he doesn’t know what he’s talking about but continues to improv his way to making a halfway true claim
Ya it’s interesting how he doesn’t really know much, but, hey, he’s a millennial, what do you expect.
Wow thats oldschool...a thermostat😂
My new MAN looks like a spaceship now😂😂
As long as KW doesn't discontinue the W900 in the remaining years of my life I'll die happy.
That's right I've own 1 peterbuilt I sold it 60bdays after I bought it I've always owned KW w900L studio sleeper trucks that's the Rolls-Royce of trucks
The w-9s are more classier
They will, that's why there is a W990, and I think that the T680 would replace both anyway.
389 is more classier let’s just keep the W-9 and the 389 and yes, my life will be happier until I die…
To be fair the W900 already got the 589 treatment with the redesigned front end, Kenworth just didn't call it a new model.
There's a trucking company in Taranaki New Zealand that used to import Peterbuilts and convert them to RHD under full rebuilds.
Their colour scheme is very similar to the green Pete in the workshop.
Very smart looking rigs.
Yup, I've seen a few of their Peterbilt's, wished we had more of them.
Uhlenberg have some beautiful Peterbilts hauling LPG tankers down the Taranaki, NZ.
Just fabulous trucks. Love one of my own.
It's obvious on the doorline they're different. Can't wait for it to come to American Truck Simulator!
I was at the plant in Denton this morning
Just a few “hold” 389s left on the back lot
That’s progress huh
A thermostat and one piece windshield! You guys in the US are truly living in the future! 🤖
You forgot to mention one great invention, a button that turns on all the lights in the cockpit 🤣
I’m guessing they usually have two piece is for two reasons.
One cost is cheaper having square & flat screens &
Secondly but actually the main reason FITTING & replacement out in the field due to the big hood, or bonnet we call it in the U.K.
I drive a Scania all day at work & love my Beast it’s King Of The Road.
I really like the one piece windshield on the PeterBuilt, can tsee a problem with it freezing up, that’s kind of ridiculous with modern heating technology, but I do like the split screen, split screen is mean & aggressive looking, tough looking & I like that. To be honest split screen looks better from the outside, single screen better for driving.
The flip up piece of plastic on the desk drawer in the sleeper is hilarious, it's just a bare piece of acrylic with screws through the face attaching it to the hinges. It looks like something someone made in their garage.
Yeah. A crappy, soulless and overpriced future. Rejoice.
we’ve had ac since the 80s, just not a switch with numbers
My dad just hand down my grand dad 1985 pete 359 to me, with a 3406B with 1.5 million mile on it
Treat it like its a Multimillion dollar McLaren, I hope you took your dad out for Steaks that night.
And the European guys wonder why we love our American trucks so much. 🤷♂️
I wonder how many million and a half mile Volvos and Scanias that they have over there??? 🤔
You can put a couple million more miles on that b model. My 87 FLC SBA has 3.2 million on it and still has the original crankshaft and block. Chassis, cab and interior, driveline to include the transmission, still all original.
Care for them well, and they will care for you.
@@straybullitt you're right, we do have far less super high mileage trucks over here, although you have to remember that we have much shorter distances sometimes. But in modern trucks, I don't think you'll find any that have got anywhere near a million miles
You must be a young pup. 359 an 379 are the peterbuilt legends my boy.😉🙂🙂
Thank you for this comment I’m pre 389 myself so we consider the 379 the pinnacle of the design. And the 389 only lasted 17 years or so hardly a Legend
Lol, I couldn't believe he was bragging up the 389. He clearly doesn't understand what makes a long hood Peterbilt a long hood Peterbilt. Fancy cup holders, one piece windshield for visibility, wide cabs, large step boxes and digital screen are not it.
@@michaelschultz392 Yes I don't like it that much its like with a 579 or 567 had sex with a 389 and gave birth to this thing lol
No U in Peterbilt.
@@nasheemwhye5197 lmao
Maybe someone do not like these old style trucks, but I think they are brilliant so much class and design they are time proof, like looking at the restomoded car!
Well. Of course the trucks are nice. But if European truck manufacturers were to start manufacturing such trucks whose designs are 50 years old, then it is called retro.
They should, however, buy in engines and gearboxes from Volvo or Scania
@@svensvensson9337some guys operate an American truck in Europe. They say its cool to haul their own equipment but these trucks are hard on the operator, they wouldnt want to sit 10 hour days in one.
@@SjanzoI don't think our European roads are fully adapted for American trucks. The turning radius is as far as I know the most troublesome part. And so they have neither strong engines nor gearboxes compared to the European ones. But I would have liked to put a Scania V8 diesel in a Peterbilt just to get a really cool truck.
@@svensvensson9337 in Europe there is a law that prescribes how wide the lane may be when a truck turns an xxx meter radius. Thats why double combis in Holland need a steered dolly, just to pull the last semitrailer further outward.
@@svensvensson9337 by the way, doesnt Mack and Volvo (White) use Volvo engines and transmissions?
Cab looks a little off from the overall looks of the truck but versatility is a lot better! I thought the 589 would be a whole refreshed look but I’m happy they kept this design around a little longer
It seems like the 589 kept the old school look but added to it
That 589 shares alot in common with a T880
Definitely love the small cab 389 but 589’s not terribly bad maybe once they fix them up it might change perspectives on it
I personally hate the 589. It is way too modern with the one piece windshield and the wide cab. People will hang on to their 389:s for a very long time.
I started working on trucks in the mid 70's. Talk about big differences in then and now.
Donald duck internationals and cabover freightliner with no front shocks.
It needs a visor desperately but overall it doesn't look terrible. Fine... It looks good
It will have a visor, they're still building sum custom parts for the 589
I can't wait to see what people do with this truck as far as customization goes@@scottycollins1829
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I really do love the look of all those trucks... but comparing them with the EU trucks, they look to be a handful to drive... Especially the longer frames. What a huge turn radius they must have! So my hat's off for the guys and girls driving those and backing those things up with a trailer attached. But again: they really look freakin' cool!
Would definitely pick the 389!
Same
No doubt
No doubt
This 589 is gorgeous!
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That what im buying next is a 589 I really like the classic cabs worked on them for years but I like the cabs of the 589 thanks Bruce
The legend died with the 379
Agree
I'll keep driving the 379 I have. It will be the last semi I drive.
I love how they call the 389 "OLD". 379 and 359 are old and the last good trucks Peterbilt made
@@user-xd4mq6fk1b Same here.
I’d like to take one for a ride. I miss my old 389 a little bit. I got excited when I heard this was coming out. I’d like to drive it and see how it compares to the 389. I already like the wider cab, having that extra space is a big plus!!
The 589 is a good looking truck. I like all the room it now has over the 389. When you’re in the truck for 6 days a week, loading your belongings and groceries and climbing over it all to squeeze through the seats and put it away in the sleeper and having to take it all back out at the end of the week, gets very frustrating. As I get older, I choose comfort more than anything now. As long as they can build a good deep visor to cover enough of the windshield, it’ll be great. In a couple years of these trucks being out on the road, all the naysayers should be “done driving” anyways,or they’ll be bragging about how much better their 589 is than the other guys truck
The windshield is a disaster just like the volvo snow and rain can't see nothing
The green looks so good on that first truck😮💨😮💨
I’ve driven both and love both so I’m super excited about it and the after market parts that will be on the market
The 589 is just basically a 579 with a different nose and set forward axle.
Literally lol
I thought I was the only one that noticed that.
Basically what the W990 is for Kenworth. A T680
I would love to see you get the 589 set of the new canel
A one piece windscreen is progress along with a rivet less cab meanwhile Europe gets the Volvo FH 750 and the Scania 770S.😳
Either one of these trucks would pull a Volvo os Scania around the block backward! 🤠
@@straybullittkeep bluffing yourself. American trucks are definitely not more powerful than euro trucks..have you seen the tons the Australian trucks pull..
Nah lmao @@straybullitt
@@straybullitt Yeah, a 60 year old design with a wheesy 600 hp cummins with a manual gearbox no less would deffo drag a new S770 around the blocks, keep dreaming. The only reason US truck s are so incredibly dated is because you don't import modern trucks to protect your local industry, if you did, NO ONE would buy a new Peterbilt, no one.
It's now only 30 years behind our Euro trucks in terms of cab size, technology, power etc. Those dials, radio etc should be on a configurable touch screen these days. A heavy haul with 565bhp? You're still 200bhp short. Still, looks good.
Cab on the 589 looks like hammered hell ! No more large cars from Peterbilt, what a sad day for PACCAR.
Ive never drove a 589 but ive spent some time in a 579…which is basically the same cab as a 589. And I do not like it at all, it just doesn’t feel right. Theres just nothing like the experience of driving a 379/389
Legend died with the 379. 389 is a throwaway truck. Driven all of them the Old dash 379 was the last good pete. Had 4 new 389s and they were all garbage. Not even just emissions either. Rattling interiors that fall apart. Having to wrap the seatbelt around the passenger seats that shake and rattle.Stupid ass exhaust bushings you have to keep handfulls in the door because they start beating the cab. Shit half tilt steering column and if it has air ride front the valve that flips dumping the air if you hit a big bump the list goes on. They are a poser wagon
i mean that orange one looks ok, has potential. i just wish they would've at least allowed the 389 to be special ordered.
The 389 and 589 are a fever dream for company drivers and people that want to buy a truck but feel they need something that looks “old school” to justify themselves to other people. It has a narrow industry recommendation (flatbed, tanker) yet people buy them to haul van/reefer and bury themselves in debt because the freight costs can’t keep up with the fuel mileage
Rattly 70’s spec uncomfortable back breaking truck makes way for another rattly 70’s spec uncomfortable back breaking truck. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂you're so terribly funny
@@AlbertaBoy745 Thank you. 😂
@@Outbackcogs no problem,I love giving compliments
@@AlbertaBoy745 👍😂
I would imagine with a wider cab they needed to hug the breathers to the cab so they don’t stick out too far.
Yeah exactly gay as fuck
Diesel Life should also get a NEW HEAVY HAUL W900L also so he & his wife have the BEST 2 Heavy Haul New LARGECARS in his business. There's a 100 anniversary black & silver 72" W900L Aerocab HEAVY HAUL in Tennessee not far where he purchased the new 389 Green HEAVY HAUL
Neway is a great suspension.
I really like the throw back 359 air breathers on the new tan pete
There’s been some hate on the 589 but I honestly like it. Is it pure 70s? No but it’s about the best you can ask for when it comes to todays production standards. Sure things could be changed but I think it’s gonna be the closest a company is gonna get to being able to maintain the look everyone loves. Flat surfaces are getting more and more rare.
Can’t get past how bad the 589 windshield looks . Saving grace is it makes the 389 look meaner I guess .
WISH THEY STILL MADE MARMONS. THOSE WERE BUILT WELL AND LOOKED COOL.
Large Cars 4 Life.
have a friend that had one those really ugly cabovers like schnieder and jb hunt ran in the 1990's but he bought it cheap and made money with it. thats what its all about.@@seananon4893
I like the new cab.
The cab puts me in mind of a mack. I'm just glad they didn't change the whole look of it.
American truckers: European trucks are trash.
Also American truckers: we have now Thermostat and one piece windshield.
Hahahaaa, that cracked me up,I wonder when the last split screen European truck was built, guessing late 50's? I DO actually like the way the Petes look, and the interior seems nice for what they are, but OMG they are antiques.
@@PowerslideSWE I think there were still some split screens in the 60s but not many. I like the look of American trucks too but agree they are absolute antiques.
@@PowerslideSWEvolvo f88 and f89 had a split windshield, those models were produced until 1977
Hahaha the 389 was the only truck that still had a one piece windshield and the people wanted it that way ,yes it's kinda stupid that the 389 didnt had a thermostat but we have had em a long time to but yeah brag on
Split flat windshield is cheaper to replace and easier to fit, especially versus the almost custom glued windshields in the euro trucks. But they’re antiques. Still cheaper.
“I don’t think peterbilt would have done anything to make serviceability more difficult” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 as a Paccar tech I can tell you yes, yes they would and they do 😂
Obviously you haven't worked on a Mercedes , the nightmare of maintenance.
@@ImForwardlook I’ll stick to trucks 😂😂😂😂
359 and 379.for me Bruce. Nothing over 2014 make . At 58 I'm old school I learned on the 379 Peterbilt from my uncle talk me on The Voice with long frame I walked up hills on 40 walked with a kitty cat.
I prefer a kitty cat in my Peterbilt rather than a Cummins or a Detroit and 15 speed .
Cool trucks bruce. I do like new cab lay out 😎
The new Freightliner Coronado
America, has given some really good things for the world. But really have left behind with some things. These trucks look like they are from 70's.
We don’t want the new ugly looking garbage
That’s the point
T680 NextGen look it up .
Exactly that’s how we like them
They Are Beautiful.
The slanted windshield kills it
The dash also with the minimum amount of gauges
Idk, the legend is and will always be the 379.
Honestly when im ready to get my own truck ill probably get a 379 hopefully i find a good one in good condition 😂
@@Silas_cv1 : the 379 is the most sought after truck in history. I’ve had 8 of them in my life. I have a 93 sitting next to the barn that’s going in this spring for a full overhaul. That will probably be my last truck.
The 589 cabin looks very funny from the outside, but it looks good inside...
Opinions are like A**Holes everyone has one so here’s mine. If you’re interested in the 589, then why don’t people buy the 567? I much prefer the 379 or 389 myself. Love the videos
If you look at the 567 cab, it the same but with the odd shape breathers. Puzzling to me.
I'm a daycab heavy hauler, and for a sizeable guy (a bit over 6'6" and 216lbs) the 589 is a much better, more comfortable choice.
I’m a proud Scot and also a truck driver. As far as trucks go in the UK and Europe I would never choose to drive anything but a Scania but I have never been a van of the T-cab or “bull nose” as they are commonly known here. When I look at trucks in the US and Canada I absolutely love how the old Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks look. If I lived there I’d definitely want one although to be fair, the cab over trucks you guys have look great too. Maybe less room inside than we have but but I think I could live with it. The newer style Volvo that I’ve seen over there just don’t look right to me. They may well be great trucks but I much prefer the boxy shape of the classics.
I know there are more modern trucks in the US to but come on a non split window, thermostat, cup holders, hydraulic clutch. Whats next a synchronized gearbox or maybe a 6x2 with a liftable axel so you don´t need tandems on the highways? this could literally be a presentation from the 70s in Europe.
Amusingly enough, Bruce's 30-year-old Scania is more modern than the brand new Peterbilt
haha yeah i know its so funny just seeing Americans being impressed over stuff we have hade for 30-40 years@@sauliaalto
Wtf is a “gearbox” ??? 😂 Why do you need to lift the axles anyways?? Just more stupid shit to break and give issues… nah we do things differently over here.
I build Semis trucks for the US military and everything is very basic no fancy shit to fail and give issue and yet everyone needs are help around the world. 😂
@@crandonborth there is one drive axle less on 6x2, so how there can be more stuff to break? Much simpler technology
@@crandonborth so you claim one air bag for the lift and one less driveaxel is more advanced then a tandem with two driveaxels? nonsens, here in the northen europe even some timber trucks have 6x2 even tho the load is almost 2x more then in the US because we can lift the tag and spread some sand while you guys but on your chains in anger just admit it you guys are stuck in the 70s ohh i remember now we already tag lifts back then to! And syncronized "transmissions"
There’s nothing like a 379. I really like the 359 but I think the 379 is a better everyday truck. The new 589 is a very nice truck in your video. I guess it will take a while to see.
Probably been said already but it’s an aluminum cab and hood. Same aluminum cab Peterbilt has used since 2012 on 579s and 567s. Sleeper is the same structure as the 389 with a different interior unique to the 589.
Bruce I have a picture of a 389 taken in 2021 with a 1 piece winshield. The cab is riveted together, found the truck @ loves in N.Mexico, I knew something was strange when I saw the truck, the reason I snapped a photo. Truck was bright green pulling a chem tanker.
Hello Bruce Yes, they are both beautiful, but still, as in Europe in the Netherlands, I still love the Scania, the new Scania
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hi guys im 62 my son just got a 2024 pete ext hood last year of them? not sure but he had a 22 pete and said this 2024 seems way more stabile in the wind and has way more power its a 18 speed one.not sure just going by what he told me its a midroof one.personally i like the big bunk ones.his is a dark forest green with white stripes and they airbrushed his name on door.he texted me yesterday it was getting bad bad fuel milage so they gonna look at that like 3
It’s honestly sad to see the 389 be discontinued. I feel like the age of iconic semis like the 389 and w900 are slowly but surely coming to an end.
I know this will probably never happen, but I wish that they were still making cabovers. Cabover semis are so cool. Ive been looking to buy one but they are so rare nowadays.
They are both awesome vehicles!
Honestly the new trucks don’t look horrible 🤷🏻♂️
I'm interested in what people do to these trucks. currently I'm not a huge fan of these new truck but I'm not a huge Pete fan in the first place. I would rather the W990 for the new flat hood trucks.
You must be the first person who likes the W990.
@@ImForwardlookI like the W990 as a day cab, the sleepers don't look as good
All the peterbilt 579's and the KW T680's have air assisted hydraulic clutches that's been out for a while.
Bruce you were 35 minutes away from my house in Canada
Would I drive a 589!? Would I own a 589!? Well YES!! Can I afford a 589!? Only in my dreams. But at the end of the day truth be told my heart is with the 359, 379 and 389 style and forever will be.
So this is practically 50 years of evolution of American trucks? And truckers complain about the single bigger windshield. Scania skipped splitted windshields already in the 1940's on their trucks.
American trucks seem to be the only vehicles in the world that still have split windshields. For example no car or no farm tractor has them anymore. One important reason is that the lath between the windows disturbs the visibility the same way "wunderbaums" and other things hanging in the middle of the windshield do. These are in fact illegal in many countries.
My favorite truck is the 389 but I gotta say the 589 isn't half bad. A lot of the switches and the cluster look identical to what in the new kw t880. We got 3 of them where I work and they're really nice trucks other than 2 have the mx13 crappar the other has the mx11
Nice unit but a heavy haul in Europe is now 700 plus hp , Lots of Volvo's and Snania's here in NZ ..
Lots of Heavy Haulers here in USA with 800hp+ as well
@@scottycollins1829 From factory?
That 589 peiterbilt would look great in the heavy hauling version just like the lime green one.
People forget how much better a 379 is than a 389. Love the old Pete’s. 379 for life. Ugly 389 headlights
I may not be a trucker, but I like looking at them, but, in opinion, 351s and 359s still look better to me. Something about them older trucks, seem to have more spirit in them than the newer ones.
Especially the twin stick trucks, I've only seen one, but sadly she met her end...or so I'm told. Bless all you truckers out there and the hard work you all put in, bless you, amen.
Thanks for the video
Oh, yes, we can definitely see the difference between the two trucks from right there where you are standing, lol! Well, at least I can, anyway! That damn cab and windshield is the major difference, and that widened hood with the shrunken or skinny air cleaners, which I understand being as though they widened the hood! I'm not there yet with the 589! It hasn't grown on me, and probably won't, due to the interior! However, let me finish watching this video so I can see if there's anything different in this one. Maybe they ordered it differently. Who knows!
Can you do a video on the Peterbilt numbering system?
The big windshield is absolutely dangerous in winter. The wipers don’t sit flat on the curvature of the windshield and snow build up on them. I drove a 579 and no matter what I tried, you could not keep that windshield clear driving in snow. Definitely the scariest truck I’ve ever driven in winter.
That is not a problem in European trucks so it must be something else than the curvature of the glass xD Do you have straight glass in you're automobile also?
@@vihreelinja4743 further more, European style trucks operate just fine in Russia. Including severely inland parts where winters are as harsh as ones in Canadian Northern Territories and Alaska.
@@vihreelinja4743to be fair, it’s a given that the windshield on a Cabover is going to be much flatter.
Well, this makes it a lot easier to choose between Kenworth and Peterbilt now. And to think, I was just starting to seriously consider a Pete!
It depends on the manufacture most of the have thousands of options when your getting the truck built there are standard builds and there are custom options that the big mega carriers dont order because they are ording huondeds or thousands of trucks and they want just the basic truck or standard truck to save asuch money as they can but you have to ask about the build and what you want on your truck theres optioons that you will never see on a megafleet truck out there🙂
Oh I love the look of your 2023 truck I bet that sucker is nice to drive I so miss trucking
Love the 389s and I’m sad to see them go. That being said I also love the 589s and I’m happy to see them arrive. I absolutely hate the aero trucks. I’ve spent a ton of time in the 579s as a TMC driver and also in the 379s before they sold all of those. I’m thrilled that Pererbilt basically combined the two designs to give drivers all the comfort of the 579 with the style of a 389! The lack of space between the seats of the 379 was kind of annoying and I’m not a wide guy. I prefer a 13 speed manual but have no 18 speed experience. I’m tall so the flat top sleeper is a total no go and I honestly don’t like the look. Needs a mid roof like the TMC trucks because the high roofs look terrible too unless you pull a box. Anyway great video and I’m glad to see a better view of the 589. The air cleaners look a bit weenieish compared to the 389 but I’ll take the comfort and the hood any day over a stupid sloped nose b***h wagon! Should’ve done away with the 579 and kept the 389 instead 😂. I get it though and at least they tried hard to modernize the classic look without totally ruining it or scrapping it!
Can’t help to think about rustjacking whenever I hear about double frames.
You just killed it with steel cab
Kenworth W900 all day
I am a die hard Kenworth guy, i love my 900"s, but having said that, a Peterbilt 389 is also a very nice truck. What i will give Peterbilt alot of credit here for is the fact they did atleast keep somewhat of the classic look alive. Unlike Kenworth and their God awful 990.
the 589 cab is a 990 kw cab
I love the split windshield with a visor , it just looks so cool and classic. It's a real shame they're gone. I like them on cars as well, but they went away decades ago. Much prefer the older truck, ja.
Literally nobody thinks this 589 Pete is a legend or ever will be
Hello 👋 Hey HI and Howdy Bruce WilsonBrian and Tommy. Cleveland Tenn Waivin a Hand 🖐 in Dallas Tx
the 389 wins hands down.
Nothing beats a 379 with a cat under the hood
It's crazy but without the visor it kind of has a 86 GMC General vibe to it. Probably just me.
Hi Bruce
I see Peterbilt redesigning out the dash on in next redesign model to add more gauges.
beautiful truck ready for 105500 low boy action
Luckily they still offer a long hood. Can’t say the same for Freightliner Mack western star I was disappointed at first but the 589 looks better than any other new road truck 😢
At 4:51 that’s the Peterbilt 589 that semi casual is building for the Mid America Truck Show I’m curious how there gonna build and install the the air cleaner lights if they make any at all
I want to see you get the 589The match of your collection