Eurovision 1980: We need THREE Points | Super-cut with animated scoreboard

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  • An edited down version of the 1980 Eurovision Song Contest in The Hague with a scoreboard using today’s technology. Ever imagined what the voting sequences of the past would look like now? No? Ok, but this was a fun lockdown project anyway.
    This edit will give a flavour of the evening (19th April) with Terry Wogan’s UK commentary. This wasn’t his first time at the TV commentator post for Eurovision, but the first year in an uninterrupted run that ended in 2008. I know he divides opinion amongst fans, but this is what the UK saw and heard so I’ve tried to be faithful to that.
    In the edit there’ll be some of the intro, a flavour of each entry, and then the scoring sequence edited with a scoreboard built and designed using technology used since 2003 (when the scoreboard became reactive and reordered when points were awarded).
    Luckily enough 1980 also marks the first time juries spokespeople were asked to give their points in ascending order. Prior to 1980, the results were given in order of performance, partly to help EBU scrutineers, and partly to help under-pressure scoreboard operators I expect!
    INTERVAL ACT
    The Dutch Rhythm Steel and Show Band. It sounded so good, I’ve included some with interviews of the entrants. In true Eurovision style, rudimentary German and French required.
    BACKGROUND
    This was the last time before 2020/1 that Dutch television organised the contest. 1979 had seen an oil price crash and belts were tightening (Turkey’s entry seems to reflect our love of the black stuff). 1979’s winner, the IBA in Israel, couldn’t get their funding extended to host another expensive show for a second consecutive year. NOS stepped in to host Eurovision 25. Israel’s no show meant that Morocco joined the fun as the first (and only) North African entrant.
    From a design perspective, the Congresgebouw stage is large, with a geometric design behind that moved into different shapes for each performance. For this first attempt at the reorder board, I’ve kept it quite simple. My original idea was to imagine if Eurovision had a corporate brand back then - and apply some design rules. We’ll see how that goes. I’ve picked a clear font (Aktiv Grotesk), and used the same colours as the real scoreboard - which were probably picked for viewers who had black and white television still.
    For me, the beauty of Eurovision was hearing other languages on UK television. Although the EBU official languages are French and English, I’ve put the board in Dutch even though the real scoreboard was in English. Why not learn something while you can? Graphics appeared in French in the show until 1989, and in other languages before 1980 (notably Spanish). I’ll see how this rule goes too!
    IT’S THE LOGIC OF THE THING
    Forcing a reordering scoreboard on the 1980 contest means that I’ve had to apply some rules that weren’t in effect at Eurovision until the late 80s. I believe a sing-off was required if there was a joint winner! Countries will be ranked by points, then how many 12s, 10s and 8s they were awarded. Knowing that any further logic isn’t required for these contests, the order is then determined by the song’s running order position.
    SOURCES
    TheEurovision1992 channel for providing the original footage on CZcams
    The guys at Intermedium-Bremen for uploading so many of the old contests
    All Copyright goes to NOS and the EBU where applied and I used this footage for the intended purpose of reviewing this Song Contest, as coverd by the ‘fair dealing’ defence of the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1988 .
    www.desandmick.co.uk/televisi... for a quick look at scoreboard history for some helpful hints.
    www.countryflags.com/en/ for all the free to use images of flags
    The flashing phone came from www.flaticon.com
    The Spanish transition flag: Spanish Flag: By Miguillen - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
    00:00 Intro
    04:14 Song supercut
    15:26 Song 19 with parts of the interval act
    18:26 The reorder board 80
    51:41 Recap and reprise of winning song
    56:30 Closing credits
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Komentáře • 108

  • @bulgaria9003
    @bulgaria9003 Před 3 lety +42

    28:19 The only set of points scored by Morocco in the Eurovision Song Contest.
    27:04 The first-ever top marks for Turkey in the Eurovision Song Contest.

  • @nadirhajjour
    @nadirhajjour Před 2 lety +49

    OMG did you know the official Eurovision youtube account uses your revamped scoreboard? I am so proud of you and cant wait for the 1964 voting!!!

  • @paulojrneto
    @paulojrneto Před 3 lety +26

    Spain received points from the first six voting countries and was third at that point, but then only got 2 more points from Portugal and finished 12th.

    • @TheNathanj2009
      @TheNathanj2009 Před 2 měsíci

      Very disappointing it would have been in my top 3. Spain scored from Southern Europe but got virtually nothing from Northern Europe, Central Europe or Scandinavia.

  • @nongbuah
    @nongbuah Před 3 lety +3

    really loving this series of new scoreboard videos binging back so many memories

  • @ELY359
    @ELY359 Před 3 lety +2

    Absolutely wonderful presentation, thank you!

  • @juanmajd
    @juanmajd Před 4 lety +20

    Thank you so much for all your projects! Undoubtedly you’re and artist! ❤️

  • @diogomartins5363
    @diogomartins5363 Před 2 lety +2

    I came here after watching the eurovision again 1980 ... Your scoreboards are very good.

  • @nikosnikolaoss2509
    @nikosnikolaoss2509 Před 3 lety +20

    1. 🇮🇪 Ιρλανδία
    2. 🇲🇦 Μαρόκο
    3. 🇩🇪 Γερμανία
    4. 🇱🇺 Λουξεμβούργο
    5. 🇹🇷 Τουρκία
    6. 🇧🇻 Νορβηγία
    7. 🇬🇷 Ελλάδα
    8. 🇳🇱 Ολλανδία
    9. 🇦🇹 Αυστρία
    10. 🇵🇹 Πορτογαλία

  • @srenjensen5735
    @srenjensen5735 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I have only just found your scoreboard videos, and as a Eurovision fan for the last 40 years I absolutely adore them! My compliments for all your hard work.
    Fascinating how Sweden and Spain were both off to such a strong start, 3rd and 4th a third in the contest, and then their votes dried up to see them finish 10th and 12th respectively, Spain only securing 2 more points after 6 countries voted for them in a row. It is also interesting how Ireland never lead until halfway in.

  • @debonidaniel
    @debonidaniel Před 3 lety +8

    I never thinked that the 1980 ended so close.On last juries,on last moment.

  • @polsnicholas
    @polsnicholas Před rokem

    Great job thereorderboard. Congratulations

  • @ariccua6101
    @ariccua6101 Před 2 lety +3

    Dude, they used THIS scoreboard on the #EurovisionAgain for 1980!

  • @lukerobinson2605
    @lukerobinson2605 Před 2 lety +3

    Was amazed how badly Luxembourg did in the voting. At one point they were second from last !

  • @user-jl9hc4zc9b
    @user-jl9hc4zc9b Před 2 lety +2

    Very nice idea. In these type of scoreboards though.. we are used to see the name of each country in English

  • @inezfeytons3676
    @inezfeytons3676 Před 2 lety +6

    Love Johnny Logan his song amazing winner and my favorite entry of 1980

  • @Larssonnie06
    @Larssonnie06 Před rokem +3

    28:20 Maroc 7 Points!
    28:20 Morocco 7 Points!
    ❤🇲🇦

  • @theeurovisionproject1003
    @theeurovisionproject1003 Před 2 lety +2

    I hope you know that ESC used this scoreboard for the video of Eurovision Again 1980 😂

  • @laurasheehan3842
    @laurasheehan3842 Před 3 lety +8

    12 Germany
    10 Netherlands
    8 Switzerland
    7 Luxembourg
    6 Italy
    5 Greece
    4 Luxembourg
    3 Austria
    2 Morocco
    1 Turkey
    P.S I'm from Ireland so can't vote for my country

  • @donalokeeffe7504
    @donalokeeffe7504 Před rokem

    What a great and well deserved winner. Still a eurovision classic. Timeless.

  • @MrPartridge37
    @MrPartridge37 Před 3 lety +8

    Frank Naef got into a bit of a strop when the presenter misunderstood the Greek scoring didn't he?

    • @columbannon9134
      @columbannon9134 Před 3 lety +2

      He had to control her for she got so mixed up several times

    • @davidspear9790
      @davidspear9790 Před rokem

      His annoyance with the presenters was even more apparent in the 1991 contest!

  • @TanCoul
    @TanCoul Před 8 měsíci +1

    Can't really grumble with the winner, it was the only one to come close to the majesty of Luxembourg. UK 3rd by default simply for Sally-Anne Triplett.

  • @thomasfallon2545
    @thomasfallon2545 Před 3 lety +7

    Johnny Logan. The King of Eurovision.

  • @olivenys3994
    @olivenys3994 Před 2 lety

    Gros tubes en France !!!!!!! Exceptionnel !!!

  • @strictlyfan0951
    @strictlyfan0951 Před 2 lety +2

    Who's here after #EurovisionAgain?

  • @cessnaace
    @cessnaace Před 2 lety +1

    The host used a different phone each round of votes. :)

  • @cenkozpercin
    @cenkozpercin Před 4 lety +8

    Turkey ❤

  • @Ian_Livesey
    @Ian_Livesey Před 3 lety +6

    17:24 what's Marouane Fellaini doing there?

  • @wessexfox5197
    @wessexfox5197 Před rokem

    The 1980 ESC was the first one to have the points announced in numerical order from 1-8, then 10 and 12. 1979 and before they would say 6, then 2,12,1 etc just in a random order

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 Před rokem +2

      It wasn’t random order up until 1979, it was performance order.

    • @wessexfox5197
      @wessexfox5197 Před rokem

      @@mrjdsworld80 ok point still stands that the 1980 ESC introduced them announcing the results chronologically from 1-8, then 10, then 12.

    • @mrjdsworld80
      @mrjdsworld80 Před rokem

      @@wessexfox5197 yes, 1980 moved to ascending order. But it definitely wasn’t random pre-1980.

    • @wessexfox5197
      @wessexfox5197 Před rokem

      @@mrjdsworld80 well regardless it was an inferior system, this system is with us 43 years on.

  • @dizzyplanet1652
    @dizzyplanet1652 Před 2 lety

    Qeustion, how do you know every name of the countries in dutch, (My geuss is that you used google translate)

  • @meskbren
    @meskbren Před 3 lety +3

    Is there a reason why Marlous did almost the whole presentation in Dutch? Even during the voting, when she was in between juries saying who was next or who was leading, she spoke in Dutch. The man who did the interval interviews in the green room manifested his fluency in English and French here and in 76 so why did he not co-host the whole thing?
    Also, I thought that UK and Switzerland got way more points than they deserved. Sweden deserved to get a lot more.
    Anyway, my points for 1980 (and I cannot vote for my own country Ireland obviously):
    1pt Austria
    2pt Italy
    3pt Greece
    4pt Morocco
    5pt Turkey
    6pt Norway
    7pt Portugal
    8pt Netherlands
    10 pt Sweden (amazing orchestral arrangement and a very close 2nd for me)
    and finally
    Germany 12 points

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene Před 3 lety +2

      It’s interesting you say that - I’d say this was one of better UK entries of the 80s (my 5th) and I absolutely adore the Swiss entry (my 2nd behind Germany).
      Edit: Actually, I’d say this was our (UK’s) best entry of the 80s behind 1983 and 1988. Possibly 1984 too.

    • @remcovandenberg6196
      @remcovandenberg6196 Před 3 lety +1

      She in an actress and played in my favourite children's program back than 'Herman van Veen en de zes'. I loved it and Marlous Fluitsma was my childhood hero. I was in love with her as an eight year old boy.

  • @MiroHeinonen
    @MiroHeinonen Před 2 lety +1

    Cities where the points were awarded from and languages this year
    Austria: Vienna (French)
    Turkey: Ankara (English)
    Greece: Athens (French)
    Luxembourg: Luxembourg (French)
    Morocco: Rabat (French)
    Italy: Rome (French)
    Denmark: Copenhagen (English)
    Sweden: Stockholm (English)
    Switzerland: Bern (French)
    Finland: Helsinki (English)
    Norway: Oslo (English)
    Germany: Munich (English)
    United Kingdom: London (English)
    Portugal: Lisbon (English)
    Netherlands: Hilversum (English)
    France: Paris (French)
    Ireland: Dublin (English)
    Spain: Madrid (English)
    Belgium: Brussels (French)

    • @bertodiz2627
      @bertodiz2627 Před 2 lety

      Can you say the languages jury in festival 1994 ?
      Thanks miro.

    • @MiroHeinonen
      @MiroHeinonen Před 2 lety

      @@bertodiz2627 I already said in the 1994 video. Just three countries' spokespersons (B&H, Spain and France) used French that year.

    • @bertodiz2627
      @bertodiz2627 Před 2 lety

      @@MiroHeinonen thank you so much.
      Miro.
      Sorry for my english language.
      Its very badly.
      Have a nice day

  • @dramaticScar
    @dramaticScar Před 2 lety +2

    The whole contest sounded low budgety... but the interval act sounded so fun.

    • @davidspear9790
      @davidspear9790 Před rokem +1

      There must have a lot of scuttling back and forth off camera to supply the different telephone prop for each jury!

    • @KevinM913
      @KevinM913 Před 3 měsíci

      I think I read somewhere that Netherlands only agreed to host it if they could cut the budget, as they had only just hosted in 1976.

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar Před 3 měsíci

      @@KevinM913 yeah that’s on the wiki

    • @mysticgirl916
      @mysticgirl916 Před měsícem

      @@KevinM913 Correct. If you noticed the opening footage in the original broadcast (which doesn't show in this video), much of it was recycled from the 1976 edition

  • @pogodziej
    @pogodziej Před 11 měsíci

    So it's not a recent occurrence that Italian juries are shady. They been doing that since forever xD but I'm happy they gave Marocco a bunch of points :)

  • @rudiknol3912
    @rudiknol3912 Před 2 lety +1

    No points from Denmark to Sweden and Norway. Amazing. Nor from Sweden to Denmark and Norway. And 0 points also from Norway to Sweden

  • @FlavioGirl
    @FlavioGirl Před 2 lety

    what happened to 1971-1979 and 2003 to present pls.? thank you :)

    • @mysticgirl916
      @mysticgirl916 Před měsícem

      2003 was the first year the contest used a reactive scoreboard to reflect the changes in points/positions between countries

  • @carlthompson1247
    @carlthompson1247 Před 2 lety

    Normally love your vids but this onw is unwatchable with the gaps between the votes and going on the board

  • @Bazz1982
    @Bazz1982 Před 6 měsíci

    Dat de presentatoren het festival ook gewoon in het Nederlands deden

  • @ozanismailkorkmaz
    @ozanismailkorkmaz Před 3 lety +9

    I prefer Morocco🇲🇦 and other Arabian countries.

  • @SimsMoyal
    @SimsMoyal Před 3 lety +5

    GOOD JOB,
    Just shame its with the toxic commentary of Terry Wogan
    He should really should have kept his animosity toward other songs to himself

    • @davidspear9790
      @davidspear9790 Před rokem +1

      Naff songs sometimes win, decent songs sometimes come way down. The contest is not meant to be taken seriously. If it was it would be as boring as hell.

    • @anyadouc2069
      @anyadouc2069 Před rokem

      ​@@davidspear9790 i agree with you

  • @adywagner2398
    @adywagner2398 Před rokem

    Johnny Logan is the great ever

  • @SimsMoyal
    @SimsMoyal Před 3 lety +3

    Thats good that its from RTE because Terry wogan was so disrespectful towards the dutch entry

    • @columbannon9134
      @columbannon9134 Před 3 lety

      This was not RTE, this was with Terry Wogan from the BBC

    • @SimsMoyal
      @SimsMoyal Před 3 lety

      @@columbannon9134 yea - that's why i said that's good it's from RTE - i can't stand it when the commentator is disrespecting other songs and countries

    • @JeSuisRene
      @JeSuisRene Před 3 lety

      Was he? All he said is that he didn’t think it would win (regardless, he turned out to be right). I don’t see how that is being disrespectful, especially when considering the stuff he would say over the next 27 years!

    • @SimsMoyal
      @SimsMoyal Před 3 lety

      @@JeSuisRene
      He said much more than that
      In french: what a shame! When the Netherlands got 12 points
      One example

    • @thankcrunchiefriday
      @thankcrunchiefriday Před 2 lety +1

      @@SimsMoyal He had just realised how silly it was to say 'douze points' and 'Pays Bas' when commentating for a British audience who might not understand, so he threw in a non-sequitur of a French phrase to make himself look pretentious, like Del Boy. If you can't speak French, it's over in a flash and the commentary carries on like normal; and if you can speak French, you clearly hear Terry searching for a French comment like 'Zut alors!' and failing miserably, making himself the butt of the joke

  • @garydavies7848
    @garydavies7848 Před 6 měsíci

    Uk 🇬🇧 shud have won with gorgeous sally ann 😊

  • @carlthompson1247
    @carlthompson1247 Před 2 lety

    Why are the votes different?

  • @bertodiz2627
    @bertodiz2627 Před 2 lety

    Entre las curiosidades del festival de 1980 que se celebró en la ciudad holandesa de den haag:
    01- es la primera vez 1980 que se distribuye por orden de puntuación de abajo a arriba de 1 a 12 ( excepción de los 9 y 11 Puntos que nunca se ofrecieron ).
    Hasta el año pasado ( 1979 )se otorgaba los puntos en función del orden de los países que participaban; nunca por orden numérico.
    02- En este festival de 1980 por cada idioma que se dirigía o cambio de idioma en la que se dirigía a los jurados de los 19 países participantes ( de inglés a francés o viceversa )se utilizaba un aparato de teléfono o escucha diferente de distintas formas y colores ,me ha parecido contar hasta 14 aparatos.
    Que barbaridad.
    Parecía el típico teléfono de la cabina roja de Amsterdam , solo faltaba azafatas y un cambio de vestuario de la presentadora y del supervisor que por cierto en 1968 no intervino obligando a Yugoslavia a repetir 4 veces la puntuación por la manía persecutoria de la presentadora de turno.
    Tampoco en esta edición de 1980 intervino el supervisor cuando la presentadora ordenó repetir al jurado de Turquía la puntuación otorgada a España cuando la comunicación se escuchó perfectamente.
    Por cierto la presentadora no sabe de idiomas el interventor intervino más de 10 veces porque la presentadora no entendía la alocución de los jurados.
    03- Es respetable y no cuestionable el tema de las banderas y sus opiniones.
    Pero no sé si este canal que distribuye las imágenes y que amablemente ha facilitado una extensión explicación sobre la bandera de España; tendría el mismo celo con otros países.
    Lo digo porque Austria tenía un escudo en su bandera hasta 1984; pero no sé qué pensar al respecto.
    04- Si ya era raro extraño que países como Israel , o pequeños estados como Mónaco participen en el festival europeo de la canción .
    No sé que decir con el tema de Marruecos que participó en el festival de la canción europea de ese año edición 1980 cuando dicho pais a pesar de su cercanía pertenece a otro continente.
    Por esta regla de tres se podría invitar a Siria , Egipto , Argelia y también y ya puestos a los países africanos con vinculación colonial a países europeos me remito a los ejemplos de gran bretaña( Rodesia- Zimbabue) , Alemania , Italia , Francia , Portugal ( Angola ) y España ( guinea ecuatorial ).
    05- Es la primera vez que el país ganador del año anterior no organiza el festival.
    ( no estoy seguro de este dato ).
    Pero puedo llegar a entenderlo, extender a tres o cuatro idiomas la repetición de los puntos por parte de los presentadores por su incomprensión, incompetencia, irregularidad, sectarismo y desconocimiento en los idiomas de los presentadores del acto del festival de 1979 interrumpiendo en exceso la distribución de puntos de los jurados fue excesivo.
    Eso sí los supervisores del ente europeo siguieron permitiendo en este formato las adulteraciones de turno en el que el orden de intervención de los jurados para otorgar puntos era el mismo que sus países cantaron.
    Una adulteración que se permitió una y otra vez.
    El orden de distribución de canciones y el orden de puntuación nunca nunca debía ser igual.
    Había que proceder dos sorteos.
    Curiosidad final ; la renuncia de Israel a organizar el festival de 1980 trajo consigo la participación de Marruecos..
    Creo que nunca lo sabremos.
    06- Quien era el tipo que silbaba en la playa el himno del festival ? le daría el título al guionista por gracioso.
    07- Quien ha tenido la idea de poner una puesta de escena tan lamentable en una canción.?
    Hablo de la canción número 17 , la de Spain , por un momento pensaba que las tres bocas de las voces devoraba los micrófonos como una serpiente se come la sirena de Copenhague.
    Buen provecho.
    LO MÁS IMPORTANTE ; EL GRAN NIVEL MOSTRADA POR IRLANDA.
    GRAN CANCIÓN DE JOHNNY LOGAN, EL MEJOR TALENTO MOSTRADO EN EL LA FESTIVAL ( DE SIEMPRE Y PARA SIEMPRE ).

  • @TheNathanj2009
    @TheNathanj2009 Před 2 měsíci

    Telex from Belgium were way ahead of their time and unfortunately not appreciated by the deadly dull old fashioned juries. WTF is with that absolute crap from Switzerland coming 4th. And that cheesy rubbish from the UK 3rd!

  • @JeSuisRene
    @JeSuisRene Před 3 lety +4

    A pleasant year with some great songs. My points are as follows
    1p 🇬🇷 Greece
    2p 🇸🇪 Sweden
    3p 🇫🇷 France
    4p 🇳🇴 Norway
    5p 🇱🇺 Luxembourg
    6p 🇬🇧 United Kingdom
    7p 🇳🇱 Netherlands
    8p 🇵🇹 Portugal
    10p 🇨🇭 Switzerland
    12p 🇩🇪 Germany
    Note that I far prefer J. Logan’s 1987 entry to his 1980 entry.

  • @yesjunioreurovision194
    @yesjunioreurovision194 Před 3 lety +6

    🇲🇦 is the best

  • @intros3
    @intros3 Před 2 měsíci

    That year, Yugoslavia did not participate due to the death of the communist dictator Tito.

  • @kjellhl1975
    @kjellhl1975 Před 2 lety

    my score would be 12 points for Germany, 10 points for Portugal, 8 points for Ireland, 7 points for Netherlands, 6 points for Italy, 5 points for the UK, 4 points Switzerland, 3 for greece, 2 for Denmark 1 for Finland

  • @rigolonzinbrin
    @rigolonzinbrin Před rokem +1

    Johnny is the King of Eurovision. Luxemburg and "papa pingouin" is ridiculous and deserves no more points than Belgium. Italy deserve second place.

  • @henrikasatryan3908
    @henrikasatryan3908 Před 10 měsíci

    12 p. to IRELAND! 10 p. to Germany. 8 p. to UK! My Top 3!

  • @sebastiancasale-gn8gp
    @sebastiancasale-gn8gp Před rokem +1

    You got rlly lazy with the scoreboard design from 1980-1982

    • @TanCoul
      @TanCoul Před 8 měsíci

      Remember, this was the first one they did - 1957-79 were done after 1980-2002 was complete. They didn't "get lazy" with this, they got more inventive after it.

  • @tobyrose4854
    @tobyrose4854 Před 2 lety

    Hostess impatient person. Why the big phone ? Looks stupid

  • @markusstudeli2997
    @markusstudeli2997 Před 7 dny

    For me one of the weakest ESC years ever. Some songs did not have any lyrics to speak of, the first and last entry of Morocco among these, only topped by Norway in this respect. Some songs were off tune, like the Spanish entry. There were hardly any memorable entries, and the staging was very bland. Funny that Switzerland made cinema their theme, while Germany chose theatre and Belgium even topped these in originality by choosing Eurovision itself. Netherlands singing about Amsterdam was hardly original as well, I was surprised they started so strongly in the votes.
    The Irish song deserved the win, but mainly because there was hardly any competition to speak of. In another year it would have just been another nice but forgettable male ballad. My highlight: The mobile phone appearing first time on stage. czcams.com/video/GC9Gyuyun1s/video.html

  • @crossingfrederic
    @crossingfrederic Před 4 lety +9

    My god this host was so bad.

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  Před 4 lety +6

      I think she's a bit intimidated by Frank Naef! I also think she has a favourite, she sounds like she's smiling when she announces Italy's points!

    • @crossingfrederic
      @crossingfrederic Před 4 lety +1

      @@thereorderboard How do you make these awesome scoreboards? I sent you an email but didn't get a reply :/ I'm open for "business" if ever that would interest you.

    • @thereorderboard
      @thereorderboard  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi Frédéric, sorry I replied to the comment on the 1984 video...I'll send you an email too.

    • @debonidaniel
      @debonidaniel Před 3 lety +5

      She was a bit nervous.But the most secure host in the 1980's was Desirée Nobush as the fact that she's only 18 on the night of the contest.

    • @jackminton352
      @jackminton352 Před 3 lety +2

      Didn’t like her either, very rude to certain countries when she misunderstood what points they were giving to other countries.

  • @David.Lee-CM-THAI
    @David.Lee-CM-THAI Před rokem +2

    Never been a fan of Logan. For me, Netherlands & Turkey were the best. Italy was worst! how terrible. a man with moustache singing as awful song, just like Monaco 1979.