Milwaukee Super Sawzall vs. All New Dewalt Flexvolt Reciprocating Saw. M18 Fuel Vs 60v Flexvolt!
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2020
- In today's Tool Duel, we are putting the Milwaukee M18 FUEL up against the all new Dewalt 60v Flexvolt Reciprocating saw. We will be cutting through treated 6x6 lumber with and without nails.
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The Milwaukee M18 FUEL SUPER SAWZALL generates the power of a 15A Corded Reciprocating Saw, Faster Cuts than the legendary Milwaukee 15A AC SUPER SAWZALL; and Up To 150 Cuts in 2x12 SPF per charge. Designed to perform in the toughest applications the M18 FUEL SUPER SAWZALL combines Milwaukee's legendary performance and durability with the portability of the M18 platform. The POWERSTATE Brushless Motor Provides 3,000 SPM and higher speeds under load for corded cutting performance. REDLINK PLUS intelligence ensures maximum performance and protection from overload, overheating and over discharge. The M18 REDLITHIUM High Output HD12.0 battery delivers unmatched run-time in all applications. The 1-1/4 in. stroke length removes more material with each stroke and selectable On/Off Orbital action provides aggressive cuts in wood and smooth cuts in metal. Variable speed trigger and 5 speed dial provide maximum speed control for any application. The QUIK-LOK blade clamp allows for tool less blade changes and a rafter hook provides a convenient way to store the saw between cuts.
POWERSTATE brushless motor: purposely built for the M18 FUEL SUPER SAWZALL to generate the power and performance of a 15 Amp corded reciprocating saw
REDLINK PLUS intelligence: ensures optimal performance and provides overload protection to prevent damage to the tool and battery during heavy applications while still maintaining compatibility across the entire M18 system
Compatible with all M18 Batteries and tools
1-1/4 in. stroke length removes more material with each stroke
Variable speed trigger and 5 speed dial provide ultimate speed control
Integrated rafter hook for easy storage between cuts
LED light for increased accuracy and visibility
Adjustable shoe-extends the life of the blade
QUIK-LOK blade clamp for tool less blade changes
Selectable on/off orbital action provides aggressive cutting in wood and smooth cuts in metal
Dewalt's most powerful tools just got better with the 60V MAX* reciprocating saw. It provides up to 19% more power than the DCS388 60V MAX* reciprocating saw** with 1874 unit watts out. With a no-load speed of 3000 SPM, this saw delivers the power of a corded reciprocating saw with the portability and convenience of a cordless through our revolutionary DEWALT FLEXVOLT technology.
#dewalt #milwaukee #powertools
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Haha, I freaking love that movie bro lol👊
@@ToolReviewZone DeWalt is just trash now a days in some respect with certain tools I am not knocking them at all I bet even Bosch reciprocating saw the brushless version would kick butt with the core 8.0 ah I think it's ugly through I do like the Milwaukee and Ridgid used Makita one time
Nice vcg construction
What a wonderful presentation.There’s comedy, there’s information, right on. Good work.
Haha, thanks Taj👊
thanks for the video, I was seriously thinking of getting the Dewalt 60v but not now!
My favourite Powertool is my supersawzall I love it. I’ve only ever used a old makita corded before I bought the Milwaukee so never noticed it being heavy or slow to change the blade. I use Milwaukee carbide blades so don’t have to change often. use it with a 12.0 and if you have the right blade for the job it will cut anything with absolutely no stalling or slow down. If your used to the weight it’s easily the best demo saw on the market
I feel like Tim Allen every time I grab my Fuel Sawzall.
Hahaha ehhh, ehhhhhh, ehhhhhh
I’m so surprised how much better the Milwaukee is. I personally use the 60volt dewalt circular saw every day and that thing is awesome. But I’ve always felt the 60v reciprocating saw was surprisingly slow for being a high end tool glad to see this video.
Thanks for the feedback Stargazer👊
Needs built in oscillating mechanical trans like my supersazall along with the 9 ah yellow black flexvolt to whip my M18 fuel
I was going to say I also have the Milwaukee Rep saw fuel Sawzall and I like to use that one just because it's so much lighter and there numbers of basically the same but the bigger Sawzall Cuts so much better and faster than my ripsaw it just gets so heavy with the 12.0 battery on it it becomes a workout after a while
You can add the orbital feature by using your arms, I know this is a test but I wouldn't cut wood like that just by putting the blade flat on the surface. But I know you know that and thanks for the content. Good stuff
Dangit! I bought a Milwaukee hackzall a while ago, and I didn't realize they made an orbital sawzall.
On a positive note, you have steered me to 3 Milwaukee tools, due to these reviews. Wanna thank you for that. 👍
Thanks for the comment and feedback E30. Hope they are working out for you bro👊
They make good stuff, I’d never really heard of them or even cared about power tools much until I started working as a mechanic on the civilian side of things (Air Force provided all the tools we needed.) But I quickly learned from everyone in the industry that Milwaukee Fuel is nearly unmatched among consumer-grade brands across most of their tools. And the few times they do fall slightly behind they also tend to be better built and more rugged so they can handle daily abuse more. That in and of itself is almost more valuable than the raw performance and I wish more reviewers would incorporate that into their testing. It’s all well and good that Dewault makes a better performing Chainsaw and Blower now, and I’m happy for them because competition is good, but will those tools last as long through daily usage and abuse in a professional setting? I think probably not but I would love to see some real testing done so I can find out.
Some of my co-workers somehow manage to destroy even a Milwaukee Fuel Impact in a matter of months, standard ones last maybe a couple of weeks. But that’s mostly due to abuse, dropping, kicking, stepping on, dunking in water. I’m much more kind to my tools so I don’t have that problem as much. Except when they borrow my tools when I’m not at work and wreck them. 😒
Congratulations on 50k 👍😎👍. 🤜 🤛
Thanks brother. Really appreciate all the support you have shown my friend
Yo TRZ! Milwaukee took it! I bought that Milwaukee over the holidays and wherever my chainsaws goes,it goes. It's a beast in the woods! Hope all is well and your staying safe through this craziness!
Milwaukee won this hands down it is the better sawzall. It cuts faster and in the contracting world time is money.
I hope Dewalt! I’m a Dewalt junkie! I can’t help it. But that orbital action has a edge.
Yeah, it's definitely a game changer Eric
I'm finally looking to sell off all my old cordless tools and go lithium. I was thinking the Dewalt Flexvolt line looks good but Milwaukee fuel is really dominating in all the reviews.
The fact that their batteries are all universally compatible with their tools is a huge plus too.
Might be jumping ship from Yellow to Red.
I just did. Dewalt is good, but milwaukee is VERY GOOD.
milwaukee is better but quite a bit more pricey. could always go hilti if you want the best.
literally watching videos and thinking the same. Dewalts cordless line is a bit confusing
You can get an adapter to go from 18v to 20v . Nothing wrong with jumping over to Milwaukee though
Milwaukee is killing the field in speciality tools. They make tools no one else does and are so appealing to tradesman. If u work construction I dont know how u could even consider anything other than m18.
M18 SS ftw! Woot woot! Great job Clint..... and.... Clint. 😎😎 I only wish the m18 had a lever lock for the blade. Thanks and God bless! 😁👍
Haha what's up Dave! Yeah that would have been awesome bro. I really like that quick release
How is Red Sonja nowadays?
Famous Amos!
@@amoscardoza5253 she's about to cut out yet more exposed tree roots in my backyard. 😁👍
The longer stroke on the milwaukee gives it a significant advantage on that thicker lumber, as it allows it to clear out the teeth on the blades much better, thus being able to cut the 6x6 faster
That and the fact that it's just better.
I have the flexvolt 388 sawzall but damn that Milwaukee means business!!!!
What's up Joey! Yeah bro, was on a mission lol
Milwaukee Super sawzall ✊🏿 rings out like a monster 🧐
Thanks for this video go Milwaukee and ridgid loved both videos bro even theryobi brushless with orbital Recip saw might beat that dewalt
I have the regular ryobi saw but without the orbital. May need to try that🤔
Yeah but which one lasts longer my experience dewalt .
For auto salvage work I find the short stroke of the DeWalt advantageous in close-quarter cutting parts like truck frame rails when harvesting drivetrains. It's not fast but I can apply considerable force without it bogging using thick Diablo carbide toothed blades. Recip saws are a big deal in modern auto salvage since they don't start fires like cutting torches and make much cleaner cuts.
Higher speed is not advantageous on thick steel or cutting tire carcasses (its easier to handle rims with most of the tire removed) which tends to overheat blades (though a plastic soda bottle of soapy water makes great coolant if you have room to use it).
If my work were mostly wood etc I'd want much higher speed and longer stroke.
Milwaukee for the win, just like the Rigid in the last video. Would be nice if it was a little lighter like the DeWalt and had a similar blade release. But I'll take speed over comfort any day
dewalt needed to turn that extra voltage into more torque and gear the stroke for 6000 rpm, i would also like to see a volt meter on the motor terminals to see whats actually being draw.
Even on striaght cut the milwaukees almost twice as fast its clearly way ballzier than dewalt i have the super sawzall with the 12 amp but i also have flexvolt skillsaw and oscillating tool impact drill etc. Each tool company has the best of something thats why i have multiple platforms
TRZ's "Tool Wars"... This could be a new sport; I'd like you to be the announcer.
Haha, I'd watch it!!!!
Hi TRZ,
Well clearly Milwaukee won this tool duel.
I hope DeWalt is watching and realize it's time to step up their game. Now that people have to stay home maybe their tool designer team can come up with a way better product, LOL....
Thanks for the video
Thanks Michael!!!
We're working on it... -DeWalt engineer
Now that's something that I find truly awesome 👊
Milwaukee all the way, love my fuel one key sawzall, it's a great unit.
Yeah bro, it's a bit bulky/heavy but gets the job done
U should so do milwaukee vs maketa if u have one
Thanks Clint 😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
Dang obviously a winner but I wonder if straight cuts in thick metal or something other than wood would change the outcome
Sad Dewalt didn't put orbital action on this tuff built saw. They will definitely have to change this to stay in the game. Milwaukee has a great recip even though the blade changes take a bit more time. Great tool duel here. CLINT all the way baby 😂😂😂😂. Still not getting along huh.
Hahaha, that Clint is just a real smart ars. Such an attitude on that one John. Yeah I agree, definitely wish they would have added the orbital. Big difference in the cut speed
Milwaukee hands down!!! Even though I'm A DeWalt Flexvolt Fan!!! I'd buy this over Flexvolt just as I would a M18 Impact wrench over A DeWalt.Now if your talking A Grinder or A Circular Saw It's Flexvolt All the Way!!! Best tool for the Job
I don't know man, the Milwaukee rear handle 7 1/4 saw is out of this world..
U can say that again. I had a flexvolt 575, hard to beat and I know they have more powerful circ saws since, mine has plenty enough. Milwaukee drew me in on the impacts and super Sawzall and nail guns. I guess I had to em both.. They definitely share varying successes in different niches with their tools!
What does orbital do
Emphatic victory for Milwaukee
I want to see the Power Detect and the compact XR vs the Flexy. I think they shouldn't put this "new" version out.
I see if I can make it happen bro👊
Would also like to see
I purchased my Milwaukee fuel brushless Sawzall and then maybe 3-4 months later Milwaukee came out with this Sawzall and they had a special on both sides for 199 but the one reason why I did not purchase this new Sawzall was bet it weighs almost 2 more pounds than the other Sawzall
Plz sir review some Black and Daker Battery Drills......... Plz
Maybe next time Dewalt...... Milwaukee has a solid product here I do hate the blade change however I think it was necessary for the orbital function to work!?!?!
Yeah that orbital is something else NJ
I have the flex volt and wish I would have bought the 20 V
The DeWalt is an offensive joke. A sawzall doesn't need 60 volts to operate. It had almost 3 times the voltage, and it was twice as slow.
The Super kit is $499 vs the Dewalt $299. The Milwaukee was twice as fast, that’s why it costs twice as much.
How much did the dewalt cost?
I can't believ this m18 beat the newest dcs389 sawzall wow!now that's interesting,thanks for the upload and great review man..
Thanks King!!!
Beast I tell you beast Milwaukee
Diablo thick metal blades with carbide teeth and 5 12 Amp hour batteries you can cut big I-beam all day long with the super sawzall I got video of me doing it. I'm currently cutting up 3 conex shipping containers with it
If u have the maketa u should do a maketa vs milwaukee
Makita seems to be to good for this channel bro. I'll just reach out to Acme Tools to send one over for us to look at. They are awesome
Yeah i hear that cant waite for it
And Makita looses. But, Makita is just like any other 🇯🇵 car compared to an 🇺🇸 muscle car.
Curious if the dewalt would’ve done better with a 12 or 15ah battery.
The added weight would help the operator not having to use as much down pressure but that’s about it. In real world applications you’re not always cutting straight down
Use a wood blade. Cut metal with metal blade. Thx for video. Test the 2x12 x 150 claim.
Sad. I really like how de walt tools feel. The thinner handles.
I cut alot of 6x6s with the flexvolt and some reason I can cut through them alot quicker than I just watched on here
Milwaukee super sawzall beat dewalts slow pitifull but sorry but Milwaukee is a beast and don't matter if its 388 or 389 same slow recip saw good video Clint
Thanks for the feedback brother
The smoothest operation of almost any recip saw is the older Ridgid GenX-4. When I demonstrate Milwaukee Fuel VS Ridgid GenX-4 everyone is shocked by how much quieter, smoother and so much less vibration with the Ridgid. Milwaukee fuel by comparison almost vibrates out of your hands and is so noisy you need hearing protection. With tools the excess noise and vibration is wasted energy, sucking the battery down faster.
I have dewalt and love it but there worst tool has always been the reciprocating saw plus lack of features. There grinders especially and circular saws are better amongst some other things. Both great brands tho cant go wrong with either. Or makita for that matter
Love Dewalt saws. That's why I am kinda bumbed about this one
The dewalt grinder is the best on the market
@@bobowman6689 definitely. Flexvolt grinder a beast. And the ergonomics are great too. In my personal opinion the flexvolt grinder is the best cordless tool of any tool that dewalt has made. Puts my coworkers 6" m18 to shame and dewalt came out first. Works out for me too as im more of a metal worker and grinder is my most used tool aside from impact and drill
Milwaukee , have the power every time
Next video: DeWalt vs handsaw. My prediction is DeWalt squeaks by with its first win.
Haha, I may need to try it lol
You win the Internet for today.
lmao. Thanks for the laugh.
Darn..it can cut 6X6👍
Not crazy about DeWalt, batteries don't last and big dollars to replace, my charger burnt out within the first 2 months and had to fight for a replacement, the blade release is nice if it don't keep releasing the blade as the unit had time on it. Same with the drill systems.
Power detect 20v vs flexvolt 60v
im by all means a milwaukee fanboy, and this is why. but if youve got flexvolt batteries and equipment then dewalt all the way.
Man, if this is supposed to be their top of the line cordless recip, then sorry DeWalt, you missed the mark on this one. No orbital, no adjustment, and your 60v loses to Milwaukee and Ridgid's 18v?
Yeah, it still really power, but not that fast
😂
Looks like you flipped the lumber over when you moved to the other side seeing how that big knot moved also the clamps are not in the same position in the second cut end grain is also tighter in the dewalt side not a fan boy of either tool but does seem that something is wrong
What?
The dewalt also needs a rafter hook
the milwaukee had a bigger battery so it had a better power output, using a 6 amp flexvolt vs 9 amp also shows this.
I thought Flexvolt Advantage selling point was it took both kinds of batteries.
Not the 60v max tools though. Flexvolt Advantange are 20v max tools. That's just a Flexvolt (60v)
SWITCH SAWS! Lol Milwaukee 4 the wim
Yeah it took it bro
Epic gladiator battle you are real entertainment and rock people please smash the like button show your support for trz
Try using a 12AH battery on the Dewalt and see if anything changes.
I may be wrong, but how i now, dewalt in 60v mode has 3ah capacity and milwaukee have 12ah. Dewalt have 9ah capacity only in 20v mode. So i think you must test with the similar battery capacity. Everyone now that how much ah in battery that how much power it can give
Ah is not a measure of capacity. VAh (Watt hour) is. And keep in mind that DeWalt is really making 18v tools when they claim 20.
Please reviee dcs382
I was cutting shit just like this today with my ryobi and said fck this I’m getting a Milwaukee
But Milwaukee still doesn't have a plunge saw.. why? So sad but I'm switching to DeWalt xD
Milwaukee. Strong. I love both tho
Two Clint's are better then one Milwaukee is a monster compared to dewalt I bet the octane Ridgid would be a sweet test
Looking at make a big purchase on a bunch of tools, Milwaukee seems to have faster tools, not best batteries. Dewalt has some very good impact wrenches, but not as many good features or speed
What blades are you using on the dewalt?
Same as the Milwaukee. Diablo general purpose wood/metal blade
FYI the Dewalt 60v 9AH battery costs $200
Team red baby
Now time for Godzilla to whoop the Sexy Flexy next. HIKOKI!!!!!
The super sawzall is just 🤌🤌
Flex has nooo Flex!!!!!😁😁😁
Would have been different if they added the orbital. It's a great saw, just dosen't have the features it should for this type of saw
I want to see another tool duel, but with more wood, metal, 🏋 on the tool. I want to see what a traditional contractor would run into!
I have both saws, and yes the Milwaukee is a little faster, it has only has issue after issue. I have gone through 4 of these saws in less then a year. My Dewalt hasnt had 1 issue for for the last 3 years. So comparing apples to apples ill take the Dewalt with the reliability over the speed of the Milwaukee. Now with brandnew blades the Dewalt isnt that much slower at the end of the day.
Yes spend more and you get a faster tool but it comes with problem after problem I've owned my dewalt set of tools and I ha e never had a problem but my Milwaukee I had to replace them every year so I stopped buying them I've had my dewalt cordless set for 4 years with zero problems yes maybe slower but alot more dependable
Gotta go with the obvious - MILWAUKEE!!!!!!!!!
Ok bro, winner take all.......Milwaukee Super Sawzall VS Rigid Octane for the next TOOL DUEL!!!!! Whatcha think bro?
I may have some interesting news on the Ridgid bro. May be an upgrade is all I'm saying 😏
Tool Review Zone baw gawd now you’re really tickling my taint!!! I love my Octane Recip but.........an even more powerful Octane Recip?!?!? Bro I was thinking the last few weeks what’s going on with Rigid? They haven’t really released anything lately what’s up ya know.
@@treebossmike8818 HAHAHA thanks for the image Mike. That was their first Octane tool that was released, but I'm just saying.....I heard it from a very legit source
Recip saws are used on far tougher jobs than wood. How about testing on pickup truck, SUV and car frame and subframes like when harvesting engines in self-service salvage yards? More than a fe Americans are serious gearheads and an effective recip saw pays of very quickly when time is money. The faster I can harvest a 6.0 or 4L80e the faster I can get to the next one. Visit your local pull-a-part and they may let you clip (cut a donor car in half) a hulk waiting to be crushed.
Whats "All new" about the Dewalt? They've been out since 2016
You sure about that? Did you watch the entire video? Did you see the model #?
I was under the impression that a flex volt would accept any DeWalt 20 Volt or 60 volt battery from DeWalt.
Me too... deal Breaker for me🥺
I think since Dewalt lost every time it should get a participation award
inb4 Lou Cifer comes in here to lay down more astroturf. Like he always does on every video where Dewalt isn't winning.
Like I keep telling people, Dewalt just doesn't know how to make a good reciprocating saw. Dewalt makes some great tools in most other categories, just not this one.
And even if the Gen 2 Flexvolt was ~10% faster I still wouldn't even consider it the best overall saw. No rafter hook and no adjustable shoe is a gigantic fail on Dewalt's part.
Milwaukee all day lol
Time is money. Speed wins
I can tell you which one of these sawzalls won the competition but I think you need to get out of the house take a walk or do something because it looks like you're going stir-crazy LOL👊👍
Hahaha, thanks for the comment bro lol. That cabin fever kicking in!
The Milwaukee has a longer blade stroke than the dewalt and will always beat dewalt, I’m a dewalt guy and ever since I was an HVAC apprentice I knew Milwaukee sawsaall was way more powerful than dewalt.
I know it’s not even on the market yet, but after this test and the Ridgid test, it’s time for DeWait to just cancel this product intro and try again.
You're Milwaukee guy i can see
i'm a whoever makes the best tool guy
Alright now let’s see the last couple of winners in a showdown! Ridgid vs Milwaukee
Haha, once my arm stops vibrating I'm on it MrC💪
Given these two videos, I predict a close contest between those two.
Are those blades dull
No
Tool Review Zone wow it’s amazing how much more powerful the SuperSawzall is but I will say the 60V is still a beast in its own way
Yeah bro, the dewalt has tons of power. I really think that an orbital option would have brought this much closer
Tool Review Zone you are absolutely correct brother I can’t agree with you more, I’ve been following your channel for awhile now and your videos are top notch, if you wouldn’t mind subscribing to my channel to, that would be awesome to have a huge player in the Tool world following my channel. As I am growing mine as well!!! If you have any advice please share with me brother. I would really appreciate it. I’ll be ok the look for your next Video.
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How is possible 18 v defeat 60 v 🤔
Milwaukee and dewalt are both good but Milwaukee is a bit faster and dewalt is almost there but both saws 🪚 or great
Thanks
It’s odd, I see some vs tests and it’s either or. Still Milwaukee is best.
DeWalt has a 12 a h battery
The 9.0 Ah Flexvolt has a higher max output compared to a 12.0 Milwaukee/Dewalt pack anyways. Samsung 30T vs. Samsung 40T.
Also worth mentioning that Milwaukee is even using the lower Ah rated 30T in their new MX Fuel for a reason. Because it has a higher discharge rating. (35A vs 30A)
So it doesn't really matter. Dewalt still technically had a Wattage advantage in this video.
@@AaBB-ks6oc The 12ah still makes a difference in the tools compared to the 9ah power wise
@@AaBB-ks6oc i didnt know that. I guess you learn something new everyday!
a lot of smoke with the dewalt while making slow progress. I'm guessing the dewalt had a worn blade.
And I'm guessing you are dewalt user