"Levy deserves CREDIT!" 👀 Simon Jordan debates Postecoglou and CLASHES with Souness over Tottenham 🔥
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2023
- Simon Jordan, Jim White and Scotland legend Graeme Souness discuss Spurs' appointment of Ange Postecoglou and the ownership structure at Tottenham.
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Simon Jordan and Souness how i missed this combo absolutely brilliant
Levy’s got Simon on payroll surely
😂😂😂💯💯
Naa, Simon just lives to argue needlessly with people
Or some compromising photos of him..
YES
"If he hadn't said yes to the job, someone else would've had it." Wow that's just top notch commentary from Souness, amazing insight
Pedantic much.
But it’s a fact!! If Rodgers hadn’t of agreed to take the Leicester job at that precise time (3/4 through a season) then the Leicester hierarchy would have gone elsewhere. Rodgers had a clear decision to make, either accept the job or remain at Celtic. Now ask yourselves what you would have done in that situation 🤔
Such insight is the reason why Souness is in such high demand as a pundit.
"Postecoglou might or might not win something "..Sourness really earns his money.
You won't get this type of commentary anywhere else folks! 😂
Sourness is Bang on. This is not about Levy not wanting to spend certain amounts, it’s him deciding he knows best how to recruit.
Heart of pure gold Souness, a top top bloke, a real leader of men.
Long may we be blessed with this man, and I hope he see many more years, God bless you.
Graham…get off the computer
@@cgray8267Not sure if this is sarcasm... 😂
Simon in his continuous defence of Levy never mentions he sacked Jose before a cup final… that says it all about Levy’s no drive for titles… Arsenal fan here
Souness is a Tottenham man at heart. Started his pro career in Tottenham and worked under legendary Bill Nic and he knows the history of the club and he can see Tottenham are massively underachieving under Levy and ENIC.
"Massively underachieving" is a bit of a stretch.
Where would spurs be without Kane and son?
Played 0 games for them but sure he’s a spurs man at heart
@@Ibrahim-nf6yhWhat? 😮 Harry Kane had a son who plays at Spurs with him???????? 😳😳😳😳
Gul Raja You really thought that was funny didn't you 😭😭😱
Simon always defending levy
The reason why Simon was not a successful owner is that he is always blaming someone else. And over and over he sticks up for levy by blaming others in the equation. Wake up Simon - the problem is Levy and it’s time for him to go.
He may be wrong about Levy being decent in general but you can't say everything bad is on Levy and everything good is on the manager that's not how it works😂
@@landonlowe4029 yes but when there's been one constant over a period of time it's pretty clear where the main issue is.
@Matthew M I agree on that.. the issue is though and maybe this is the point from spurs fans as Simon says unless you become the biggest spenders you won't be the biggest club ever/consistently win trophies.. since you only rank 5th or 6th on spending/wage bill you aren't in any way guaranteed success for the most part and when you have had chances you've blown it . To be clear Levy chooses how much to spend so that's much of his own doing but unless you had a Qatari of some sort as an owner you probably are maxing out rn
@Krampus everyone above them also have billionaire owners.. it's not like having billionaire owners and everyone else having nothing 😅 (other than Brighton )
@@landonlowe4029 who appoints the manager?
Sacking the manager before a league cup final…. I rest my case 😂😂😂
You don't get it then of you think a league cup could paper over the damage Jose caused
@@grassrootsfootball225 well it didn’t work though did it
@@HotStepper222 it didn't because the man they replaced him with was just as destructive in Antonio Conte... The toxicity within spurs now stems back to Joses tenure.. before that they were a club in harmony and very much on the rise
@@grassrootsfootball225 who appointed them?
@@BourbonJRA don't her me wrong Levy is worse appointing them but that's not to say Jose shouldn't have been sacked
Was watching this with the subtitles on and had to laugh when they mentioned Postecolou. The subtitles showed Plastic Car Glue 🤣
Simon is a comedy villain these days
typical hypocrisy from the Tories
He's class
He likes being devil's advocate
Surprise surprise Simon disagrees with a guest
None of us other than the Spurs managers or Levy really know how things are run behind the scenes, but Simon always assumes that Levy is never responsible for any bad decisions.
If he was a manager or player, his tune would change quickly.
They're mates
Embarrassing honestly so damn bored of listening to this drivel
I have been to Hotspur way a few times for college lessons and have spoken with the head gardener about it, levy even has a say on which grass species is used on the lawns leading up academy way. He also made a gardener drive a 2 hour round trip to pick up 3 small branches from outside his office window.
You hit the nail on the head.
@@danw8586u gotta be kidding
Good to see souness back. Good combination with Simon.
How come he left talkSPORT originally? I thought he was great on the show
@@Craig.229I think he just had a half season deal. And completed the contract. Like that was just the length and it wasn’t supposed to go on longer
@@jamiekb9v ok mate thanks, I found it strange how he wasn’t there one week then never came back
Simon loves the sound of his own voice and likes to be controversial.
He just like me fr
I think Souness is right, look at Chelsea they have invested consistently in quality players over the years and yes they've had a bad season but look to bounce back more rapidly than Spurs, they have more transfer windows to go through before they get really competitive just for a top 4 berth. Not sure that Levy/Lewis are really up for it, perhaps they should bail out now and find a Gulf state buyer.
When will FFP start to become an actual concern for these teams?
its ownership / culture mentality that makes a difference. As much as I hate Russian oligarchs, Chelsea were run amazingly by them. He set up one of the worlds best recruitment and youth transfer organizations that brought in De Bruyne, Lukaku, Salah, Mount, Christensen, many more. And that led to winning titles. Same with US sports teams, it starts with the owners that want to win, that mentality is so important. Look at Newcastle.
@@Other-stuff-sports-lm1ok recruitment? They went in with a massive net and got any player with promise in. 9 out of 10 of them did not come through the ranks and moved on.
Levy and enic don’t have the money of abramovic so you don’t really have your point…
Souness and Jordan debating, don't get much better 👍👍
He's a levy lover, he's got a hold on you believe it
I have had my Phil of your daft comment
Hey Simon, why don’t you mention the owner sacking the manager a week before a cup final? Strange exclusion there.
Simon is sleeping with Levy surely.
Top and tail, maybe
I was thinking more along the lines of Levy having Kompromat on Simon. But, you could be right. They are probably friends to be fair.
You caught dead in a narrative that Simon is trying to unclog from your brain. The managers are responsible for what they do, and not matter how much money you spend on players what happen on the field tactical and otherwise lies with the manager. 4 clubs have won 28 PL. You might miss the point that only Leicester and Liverpool drop in for one. So once the reality sets in, oh what about the FA and League cut. Show me the teams that have come forward in the last 25 years to mount a challenge to the clubs at the top. What Simon said, there are factors, that stretched beyond Levy, and as might as you all will say Poch was never backed. The teams were good enough to win something. I know if we had better players!!!
@@djpaullawrence9993 levy sacks mourinho, an expert cup winner days before a league cup final and then loses.
He then hires Conte, a man notorious for only being a short term manager and being very demanding in terms of finances and transfers.
All spurs fans want is a trophy and he literally prevented that from happening by getting rid of two serial winners because he didn't want to give in to their high demands.
@@iMikes please read a little more. I said the argument is that Spurs has not won the league and no other club outside 4 has done so. No need repeating myself. We have been to 3 finals and chase the league twice. Once the fact of domination is represented then the narrative is what about the FA and League cup. Conte football was awful, and while I did not agree with Jose firing at the time. His football was as dreadful as Conte.
What both had in common, they took no responsibilities for their part, and proceeded to call out the chairman publicly. They were too coward to say, this is not for me, good bye. They wanted to be fired to get every penny of their contract.
The facts of Levy not being a football man is not going to chance, but you don't want to hear any other side. . Within all the bad deals he made, we have about 5 to 6 teams that should have won. Not counting the Jose saga. Don't interpret what an saying as defending Levy, I am defending a balance that by extension the managers played their role. They are not innocent. You reading something totally different when Simon said I am not defending and proceed lay out why Levy is not the only one that has not done the job. The managers get all the credit and walk away from their failures.
Is souness gonna be a regular? Need him back. Proper football man
Great to see Souness back.
WHAT??
I’m a Spurs fan and Souness is completely right . Spurs under Levy will not win anything. We are plunged into abject misery.
Levy definitely deserves credit for screwing Tottenham for last 20 yes and yet leading the club
Spurs/Poch going to the CL final was 1000x more acheivement than winning an F-in League Cup.
Was it tho?
That was a serious team and lucky too.
'I come back to it' Souness spitting fire
The old dragon
Simon Jordan keeps incorrectly saying Spurs lost in the Quarter final of the FA Cup. They did not. The Quarter final was Sheffield United vs Blackburn Rovers.
Firing mourinho right before a final however was all on levy ..... simon seems to forget this fact🙃
Lads, why is the sound so bad on Talksport clips? It's always distorted and too loud at the top end. Someone dial down the gain please.
SJ is been paid to run P/R for Levy, spurs fans hold him accountable
Simon chopping at the bit for an argument. 😂
Simon says you can’t fault Levy because you can’t blame one man for the structure of the football club but has continuously blamed Moshiri as the only man responsible for Everton’s issues. This man continuously contradicts himself it’s unbelievable.
I think it's different, what he's saying is when Spurs fail in finals and semi finals that can't be Levy's fault. Everton is very different. They're well below where they should be.
When managers needed backing Levy was nowhere to be seen, Poch spent the least of the 'Big Six' while he was in charge and we went a whole season without buying any players, Levy is too focused on bringing in revenue instead of investing in the squad.
Spoken like a true owner. May as well say "I am in charge but nothing is my fault". As the owner you make the decisions
What credit! The guy is useless! So stubborn, the club is moving backwards!
GS is right. The most important thing is recruitment.
Doesn’t matter who the manager is, if you have below par players you won’t win.
Levy doesn’t buy the players the managers want. He buys players he wants.
I’ve watched half of the video.
Il come back to it.
Graham: I'll come back to it... OMG YAWNNN
Spurs releasing a manager who’s a final expert a week before a final, says it all
Love Souness. Always looks like he's about to lob a glass of whiskey across the room.
Over the last 10 or 15 years as a spurs fan i've found that there is an inverse correlation between predictions by pundits before the season starts and how well Tottenham play during that season
Both guys have a point I do feel at times managers and the players have let Tottenham down massively, however levy is an issue and isn’t ambitious enough to win if he was this circus would’ve been put to bed long ago.
These 3 need to be on air more
It will take a few windows for Anges squad to be fully assembled including depth - with Arsenal & Newcastle strengthening further its gonna be a tough slog in the top 6
Levy has the opportunity to reset what everyone thinks of him but all he is going to do is double up the view everyone has of him. Levy and Joe are not interested and don't have the ability to run a football club. Great at property development but Levy has no idea how to employ football people - Souness is spot on Buck stops with Levy.
Simon southern bias is ridiculous 😂 praises a chairman who won nothing and has nothing good to say about city who have dominated for 10 years 🤦♂️
115 charges?
@@landonlowe4029 oh no not the npc 115 charges comment 😂 please can you name one specific charge out of the 115 ?
@@Smj1303 withholding information regarding finances , not complying with ffp are just a couple from 115.... there cheating bastards & everyone knows it ... well anyone with a brain that is.
@@landonlowe4029 I guess you can’t 😂
Jordan always talks about the bad results like Sheff United. They are poor results but its what the set of players have done for ages. Bad Mentality. He chose to get rid of managers rather than try and overhaul a team of players who have those bad results in them because of seemingly bad mentality. Yes the players and manager are a huge issue in those results but Levy has allowed those players to continue when we have seen what they are. He chose the players they have over trying to overhaul because of money.
1 League Cup in 22 years is more than Everton trophy cabinet in my eyes.
Real Madrid eh
Simon Jordan is as sycophantic towards Levy as Neville is to Solskjaer. He's enjoyed Levy's hospitality and hopes to do so again, hence his pathetic defence of Levy.
Gary Neville backed ole as a fan of the club and an ex team mate.. apples and oranges and ole did a good job for a period also
@grassrootsfootball225 I don't recall Solskjaer delivering any silverware, which is surely the point of Manchester Utd? He started well and then fell off dramatically. Neville's defence of Solskjaer made him a laughing stock and shredded his credibility as a pundit.
@@jasongray4517 he took over a club and a group that had hit a brick wall and had lost all sense of direction, the turmoil Jose left the club in was the darkest days I've witnessed at the club, people forget but after going the Jose route it felt like the club was rotten from the inside out and it was.. Overnight Ole lifted us off our feet and had us believing again... The club was restructured behind the scenes and the club appointed it's very first DOF under Ole, a massive change in dynamic that was badly needed.. ultimately oles tenure did not come to fruition but I remember the summer we signed ronaldo under him and the feeling of optimism around the club that we could genuinely mount a challenge, it was the best place the club had been in since the Fergie days... People like to paint oles time as a complete failure, far from the truth.. Neville never said he believed Ole would ever win the league but he backed him like a supporter of the club should do and he had no qaulms when Ole was ultimately sacked... He's also one of the most highly respected pundits in the game with an ever growing reputation
@grassrootsfootball225 Jose won silverware at Old Trafford; Solskjaer won precisely nowt. Put the sentimentality to one side and it's undeniable that Solskjaer failed.
@@jasongray4517 you forget how things went mate.. Jose downed tools and was sacked in the end because he was brought in with the expectation to challenge for the major honours but lost the dressing room and Ole was appointed as a caretaker to clean up his mess but vastly exceeded expectation and earned a contract... And despite the constant tirades from certain fans throughout his entire tenure and the ever present media speculation he was set to be axed, Ole steadied the ship and guided the club to a 3rd followed by a 2nd place finish in his first couple of seasons.. he had the right to try and go one step better in the league but ultimately failed and was sacked just like Jose.. the journey under Ole was as good as its been under any manager since Fergie and Oles time won't be forgotten by all fans mate
Spurs have plenty of money to compete at the very top. The problem is that their ownership is unreasonably tight! The biggest examples in the past 6 months are the 50M joint bid for Maddison and Barnes in addition to only offering 12M for Trossard when Brighton wanted a package that could see them with 27M. This is not like when Arsenal moved into the Emarites and was completely broke, Spurs are in the era of mega money and had spent far more in 4 years than Wenger did in 10 at the Emarites even taking into consideration inflation.
The Maddison and Barnes offer never happened, it was just a rumour. Trossard, yes - no one else was in for him at the time and they made a mistake. How do you know how much the stadium is costing? We have around £150m per season to spend while the stadium is being paid off, and will be much more after.
Your point about spending less than Wenger sort of makes sense... but we've spent a lot less than United, City, Chelsea and Arsenal in the past 3 windows. It's all relative.
Simon is right though, most of the time the league table ends up being a list of clubs who spend the most on wages, top to bottom. Read soccernomics - great book.
Nearly a billion pounds in debt for the stadium. Doesn't sound a lot if you say it quickly!
@@davidluxon1911 look at the income they generate for opening their legs for all types of deals like NFL, F1 and essentially being the North London O2 over being a football club. They will have that debt mostly gone in a few years. It's not like they were building a new stadium in the early 2000's.
No one is talking about the elephant in the room. For years Spurs have had high coveted players that they refused to sell as Levy want to show he was such a top stubborn negotiator. Guess what? Many players would of seen this. Spurs are not a dream club in any players career, most want to play for Barca or Real or even Bayern, maybe even United. They would see Spurs as a stepping stone, if they succeed they would want that big move, if not they are still at a good club in a great City. Modric, Eriksen and Bale had to force their way out the club. Kane downed tools and Levy still wouldnt sell even for 120m to City. They managed to keep Son and he lost form. They only need to look to Chelsea (forget the Boehly-Clearlake Mess). They sold Courtois and Hazard to Madrid after trying their best to keep them. A 2 years after Hazard left, Chelsea won the UCL. Hazard's career crumbled. This just shows, rather sell when theres no change to keep the player since anything can happen. They reinvested and signed the UCL winner 21yo Havertz for 62m. 3 Years later, he's about to go to Arsenal for the same amount.
graham signals he's to state the obvious anchor wrapping the neck of Spurs' aspiration at achieving in football... Simon bristles as he comes up with a creative twist to the old tune, "...I can't Quit You! [Daniel]." Went for film quote some may place over song title few likely to recognize as the Levy apologist song and dance. Since Son signing Dembele/Wanyama/Eriksen/Walker/Trippier/Vertonghen/Alderweireld/Bale (again) have gone Lloris due to leave. 3 windows empty of signings got patched over by Poch, the ascendence of Son & Kane, the peaks of Dele/Winks/Dier/Lucas (should all be gone), a stadium, and PR. Missed getting in Grealish, Botman, Dybala, Skriniar, Bastoni, etc quibbling over what amounts to a few quid by scale to spend 5th most on Sissoko/Sanchez/LoCelso/NDombele/Bergwign/Sessegnon/Aurier/Dougherty/Lamela none 1st team worthy or yielding ROI and Hojbjerg/Bentancur/Kulusevski/Romero/Gil/Bissouma/Sarr/Emerson/Richarlison/Spence/Udogie/Porro and possibly Reguilon as the recruits himself will want to convince Kane to re-enlist to lead behind a pound foolish bald project chairman. (sigh)
"When they've done well..." When was that then SJ? Because nothing won in 22 years does not equate to "doing well"!
Daniel Levy is the only constant
23 years, hundreds of players, multiple managers, one constant Simon. One constant. When you keep failing at something, you remove all the variables until only the constant remains.
Spurs fail at the last hurdle because we did bloody well just to GET to the last hurdle with the resources that pleb gives his coaches.
Simon clearly has a business relationship with Daniel and its pretty obvious he doesn't want to strain those ties over talksport. It's blatantly obvious Levy is the key decision maker and the outcomes are directly or indirectly a result of Levy and the boards decisions. The Djed Spence signing is a highlight of how the board and the manager are not on the same page. It's decisions like this which make Spurs fans scratch their heads and go wtf. Postecoglou is no magic man but from what I've heard from the guys at Tifo Football, he's definitely a top dog.
Souness loves coming back to it
Simon likes Levy for the business. Levy for football and winning is a disgrace.
I agree that levy is a problem. However / I think the situation would be different if they won the league instead of Leicester (which they should have done) , won the CL final which they could’ve done. Won against bloody Sheffield. Won the final of the cup as well. If spurs won those games, instead of bottling it, I wonder how much of a negative would be around Levy’s name. I do think levy needs to go - but it’s good to be mindful that it’s not all levy’s fault and that people would be changing their tunes if they won those 3/4/5 major trophies in the last 5/6/7 years. That would’ve been 1 trophy per season in the last 5 years - are spurs REALLY more than a 1 trophy a year side? Not sure
The most important thing is culture... a winning mentality must exist throughout the club before THFC start winning consistently. Daniel Levy spends enough money to win. But without the right attitude permeating from everyone in the first place they are going to be up against it no matter who they hire as Manager or what players they buy. Postecoglou is a brilliant Manager who will do his utmost to get the players playing for the shirt and themselves.. give everything for themselves, the club, and the fans. Will the players buy in, though? Will the rest of the club buy in... Levy... the ground staff.. the nutritionists... everyone. Postecoglou is THE right person for this job
Dont get how Simon can say they dont have the money to invest, and in the same breath say that Joe Lewis gets no return from investing. They do have the money they just refuse to invest. Tottenham is one of the most profitable clubs in the world. Liverpool won the league and the Champions League, they nearly won the Quad last year and they dont spend the most.
Simon is Levys teaboy
If the BHA set up was at Hotspur Way they could hold onto the players and build from there rather than sell players to survive. The Leicester, Southampton and ultimately the BHA model isn’t sustainable. Sourness is right it’s the recruiting and the selection of coaching staff that can help lift the club. Historically Liverpool rose from the then second division to be a powerhouse. It can be done without spending billions.
Same old story everyone to blame but Levy, I wish I add a friend like Jordan every time I messed up.
Does Levy have compromising photos of Simon Jordan?
Jordan always sticks up for Levy and turns a blind eye to his record in 22 years as the Tottenham chairman.
Good conversation. Cmon you Spurs
Jordan is wrong on this one unfortunately, if the players have failed for 5 plus years to show they are good enough you don’t extend their contracts you look elsewhere for upgrades and Levy has kept Sanchez, Dier, Winks etc to save money rather than looking to take the next step and improve defensive positions
Ten Hag achieved more in 9 months than Spurs have in 22 years on paper that looks impossible but it's a fact
Graham Souness is a legend
Graeme ‘I’ll come back to it’ Souness
There’s not many blokes in football I love more than Graeme Souness.
Ange and Munn will change few things for sure .Hopefully Levy will allowed them to do so
Yes
I’d hate to have levy as an owner
I think your argument with the Rich clubs is spot on, so, why not Question the intergrity of Fair play and put EPL Board on notice!. Ange will do what ange has done in the past take avergae players and make them better!
Jordan pretends he’s not best mates with Leavy but always defends him.
Going by the History of how Ange has managed teams, I think he is the exact opposite type of person to be under Levy, he has quit roles before due to upstairs control and it seems like an Odd choice for him to go to Spurs with that setup.
Simon makes some pretty indefensible points for levy. Levy got it wrong when he had the best manager he’s had in 20 years and left him lifeless for the longest period of time in premier league history. Inexcusable
Absolutelt 0 chance was he their 1st, 2nd or 3rd target. Hes won in scotland... with celtic ... hes been battered in europe for 2 seasons. No experience at this level of football. Absolutely crazy appointment. From mourinho and conte to pastacog who? Come on its an embarrassing appointment.
Its only Scotland...... Mr Bean would win the treble for Celtic up there
Bring us down then and see how shite we are with proper dough behind us
If Rangers and Celtic got themselves good lawyers I'm sure they could eventually get into the system down south after all we are all part of this so called union the point being there are already Welsh teams in the system there has got to be a way ?
@@johnmcphee6098 i know the Scottish national team is doing ab amazing just now,, & great to see bytheway.... but do you think playing in Prem would improve the Scottish national team?
@@johnmcphee6098 are there many Scots want a British league, is it mostly Celtic & Rangers fans?
@@johnmcphee6098 because the EPL dont want the baggage that comes with it. Also their product its growing and growing in the perfect format
levy got rid of mourinho and prevented themselves from the opportunity of a trophy - if that isnt stupidity i dont know what is.
Graeme needs to a regular like keown
Still remember souness's pre match feelings on the 7-0 against united - what a dub😂
The longer you r at a club u shld get stronger ,How did that work out at Liverpool Blackburn and Newcastle ,Graham .
If he waited past January he might have got the Chelsea job ..... Spurs have got a super coach and manager ..... I guarantee it...
The most important thing is the owner. Leicester has gone steadily downhill since the death of Vichai.
Simon spot on again!
Souness is right as a Spurs fan I agree, and Simon Jordan pretty much justified the reasons. Because, you've changed managers, and players in 22 years, but Spurs have never won anything. They got close to the UCL Final, more so in terms of luck, and Pochettino, because they almost were out of the group stage that season. And of course miracles vs City, and Ajax. The summer before, when Spurs needed to strengthen, they were the FIRST team to not spend a SINGLE pound on a player. They didn't buy anyone to reinforce their squad. Levy's running the football side of things not as great to win things...(You need a winning mentality from the TOP owner/ceo) , while he was busy with the stadium.
He complained about recruitment then ends it with "maddison is a player".
Why does Simon always defend the problem with Tottenham? Levy and Lewis has been the constant in all these barren years. It’s time for ENIC to walk and let another owner have a go.
Swapping Souness for dower Keown on a Monday morning may be the worst swap deal in football history
Am a rangers fan from Ghana. How I feel about rangers right now is anger and dissapointment
Jordan the Levy apologist is at it again. 🙄🙄🙄
I would say spurs fans are hoping Levy swims the channel like Souness, but doesn't come back.
Players win matches. End of.
I think Levy should now let the club go.
Spurs need a big investor.
Levy goes through Mangagers like Prince Andrew goes through kids.
If I was a spurs fan I would never of let him carry on after sacking Poch. Proper joke
As Rogers. The owners let Rodgers down no investment.
Terrific Trio
Souness is 100% correct. Levy is the problem.
Jack Grealish cost more then 4 or 5 premier league teams
What people overlook with spurs is they're the 6th biggest club in the country and thats generally where they operate.
People go on about them like they're fallen giants of English football but they're a hell of a lot better now than they were when i was a kid.