House Harkonnen Family Tree - DUNE
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2021
- The main villains of the early Dune books and new 2021 movie
are the family members of House Harkonnen. Big old Vladimir and his
two nephews, "The Beast" Glossu Rabban and Feyd-Rautha
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All families have their disagreements, I hope they pull together and things work out for them
Lmao
They just need to talk it out on Dr Phil.
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I am glad that Vin Diesel wasn't part of Harkonnen family
@@Feefa99 They're bald so they have to be villains. Just look at Jeff Bezos 😆
Barons family tree didn’t end after Fay was killed either .
Technically , Paul is the Barron’s grandson .
let's not forget his sister alia, who straight up hosts the baron in the children of dune book
The spice must flow
He Who Controls The Spice!, Controls The Universe!
MY DUNE!
So the Harkonnen are just a brunch of Puukkojunkkari with too much power and money to handle.
Makes sense.
Haha, didn’t know they were from ostrobothnia! Makes total sense though! With a name like Vladimir you can’t be mistaken.
I heard a speculation that the "human spider proxy" in the new Dune movie might be the wife of Dr Yueh. That rather than kill her he had her turned into a spider like creature.
I don't buy that. It makes more sense that Baron Harkonnen had her killed since it appeals to his sadism to have Yueh think his wife was still alive. And why keep her alive? She serves no purpose to him at all since there is no connection to his life. He is going to kill Yueh anyway once he has done his job. Plus I think I recall that he told Leto that his wife "taken apart like a doll"
After listening to the family tree. IMO. What if rather than killing his mother, Muertana Sarobella, he had her turned into the spider creature. Since she appears to have the nickname "The Black Widow". It makes more since that he would punish her by keeping her alive and loathsome in that form. (at least to the extent of creative license that Denis Villeneuve might have taken.)
If you watch the brief scene carefully, You can see a human like chin of the creature as it eats from a bowl.
He was probably giving her just enough Melange to keep her alive for so long.
As the creature eats and walks away you are given the impression of something that is to be pitied.
Anyway just an idea since it is never really explained in the movie.
Okay, I was going to mention Feyd-Rautha's daughter by Lady Fenring, but nvm. It's not like Frank Herbert mentioned her again in any of his later Dune books either lol
I hope you’re not planning on waiting until 2023 to make more Dune videos.
I swear batista is showing up in every movie/TV show now
So, are the Harkonnens really from Finland and is it part of the lore, or some theory based on the name?
Harkonnen=Härkönen (Frank Herbert found the name from a phonebook and thought it sounded ''soviet'')
Hyvänä kakkos kysymyksenä miten kääntäisit härkönen nimen englanniksi
no one in the series is even from Earth lol
@@Dell-ol6hb they are all from earth, originally. The family i mean
Heti kilahti korvissa kyllä toi harkonnen
How does that sound soviet bruh
jessica was never meant to know the baron was her father, she only finds out because both paul and alia have seen it. both were meant to be under bene geserit control, but the fact that they weren't is arguably why the whole dune saga takes place.
He pulled out of the battle because thinking machines used human slaves as meat shields. He wasn't a coward only unwilling to kill millions of helpless slaves.
That plot detail is from the expanded plot and stories Brian Herbert and Paul Anderson have produced since Frank Herbert died - specifically from the Legends of Dune trilogy around the Butlerian Jihad - As Leon specifically excluded that additional material from the background of this piece, you can't reintroduce it fairly as an explanation here.
The work Brian Herbert and Paul Anderson have produced since Frank Herbert death is controversial among fans and this channel seems to falls into the camp which rejects anything outside the 6 books written by Frank and the Dune Encyclopedia compiled and edited by Dr. Willis E. McNelly in 1984 (which the Frank Herbert Estate, controlled by Brian and the family claim is non-canon). Regardless of how people feel about each camp, its correct to say that the Dune Encyclopedia material and Brian Herbert/Paul Anderson material are often contradictory with each other.
Your thumbnail just says “family”
The channel is secretly run by Vin Diesel
Harkonnen will kill Harkonnen
Yes they did mention the emperor several times throughout the film.
Harkonnen, that's a Finnish last name
So Paul's grandfather murdered his father. Anyone else getting Game of Thrones vibes?
GOT was inspired by Dune
@@pamelajohnson9214 Both were inspired by real life history, both GRRM and Herbert (if he was still alive) would immediately admit to this. One of the main themes of Dune is that any society, given enough time, will revert back to feudalism, and nobles murdering their own relatives is feudalism to its fullest (it's in the name!)
Please talk about dune this is awesome
It be nice if you make a full - spoiler filled version. Was looking for a video that had the whole story, including what the movies will cover in the future. Yours was great, but stopped short.
Damn the Harkonnens are really the Lannisters
Nah not at all, other than being antagonists and wealthy. The Harkonnens have like no redeeming features, plenty of Lannisters throughout the various books were admired one way or the other if not straight up heroic. Also the Lannisters aren't particularly known for cruelty - Tywin is known for his brutality to his enemies when it makes his victory easier but that's it. It's not like a multi generational reputation like the Boltons have. The Lannisters aren't known for being cruel or austere to their own people or allies.
Zhammmm Zhaddy Vladmir Harkonnen dummy thiccccc! 😍🥰😘😉😝😝😛😛🤪🤪
as a Pole, I have to tell you something, all Slavic names have the meaning Vladimir means peace-master
Ironic
lo. wow so they are family.. im not surprised
For a moment when I saw the thumbnail thought about vin diesel
I'm on part 3 of the 1st book is there spoilers for that in this video?
Well now we know this is wrong
Actually the baron is less if a homosexual and more of a man aroused by dominating, it just so happen to be younger males he enjoys dominating more.
Frank Herbert disowned his son for being gay. Making the villain of the story gay coded was very intentional.
@@ramzes2624 He wasn't disowned, they were estranged. Herbert was a man of his time; all reports point to the idea that he wasn't actively railing against homophobia, he was just confused/disgusted by it like most people born in the 1920s were, and showing his main villain to be a homosexual was an easy way to show him as a domineering hedonistic psycho. His estrangement with his son was indeed due to him being gay, but it was a mutual thing, and while there was clearly mutual embarrassment between them, at any rate, they reconciled to some capacity at the end and Bruce was at Frank's side when he died.
@@vishaansingh1019 you are basically saying there is nothing wrong with him being homophobic because he was justifiably and rightly so and the other homophobes at the time agreed with him, and there is nothing wrong with thinking of gay people as domineering hedonistic psychos and portraying them that way in the best selling sci-fi book of all time. Are you sick in the head or something?
@@ramzes2624 I said he was a man of his time and that he never disowned his son, where the fuck are you extrapolating the rest? His portrayal of gay people is hilariously stereotypical and offensive by modern standards. His weird forays into gender dynamics became outright fetish territory by the time of Heretics of Dune. He was a man of his time, and that time is outdated today. All I fucking said is the objective fact that he didn't disown his son.
@@vishaansingh1019 Being a man of his time doesnt make him less homophobic and bad human being in how he treated his son since was a teenager. Having technically disowened Bruce or not doesnt change that fact, or how how he told his own son to not visit his own mother on her death. Specially when Bruce went on to acquire and die of AIDS due to his upbringing. His views on gay people were dangerous and damaging, not funny. The only funny thing here was your eagerness to justify his homophobia.
i thought they were decented from romans?
Suomi🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
Suomi mainuttu
Torille mars
Noice
I am from Finland to honor house harkonen
Do Vladimir know Jessica is he's doughter
1:15 wait, so are Harkonnens canonically Finnish? Yes 👍
So for those who read the books and know the plot, I need some clarification.
Spoilers of the movie
So the idea behind the movie that there was a plot going on between the Harkonnen and the emperor to take down house Atreides so they assigned them Arrakis and the excavating of the spice to take them out of their home planet where they have their power, but house Atreides knew something is going on with the Harkonnen but didn't the expect the Emperor involvement!? And why is the emperor jealous of house Atreides!! Was it their influence? Military? Wealth? If it was one of these three I believe the emperor have the first 2 as for wealth house Harkonnen has it so what!? And the motives of the Harkonnen was vengeance I guess and their rivalry with house Atreides, while the emperor jealousy!! Really!! Or are we getting a plot twist about the emperor's motives?
Yeah that's pretty much correct. While Atreides wasn't as wealthy as the Harkonnen they had massive respect in the Landsrad (the collection of all the Great Houses) due to their generally honourable attitude plus Duncan Idahao and Gurney Halleck had been training Atreides troops so well that they were almost the match of the Imperisal Saukadar (the Emperor's elite). This scared the Emperor because he has no sons making him vulnerable to another house taking power if enough of the Landsrad back them and they have enough military strength combined. Alone Atreides would be no match for the Imperial House but if enough of the other great houses backed them they'd have a good chance. The Harkonnens have a massive historical feud with the Atreides stretching back centuries so they were the perfect tool for the Emperor to have Atreides destroyed without it being obvious that he was involved (if it was too clear that he'd been involved the other houses would unite against him in case he tried the same thing with them leading to civil war).
atreides is related to the emperor and the emperor was getting jealous of Leto's popularity. I think the emperor was scared Leto might overthrow him in a coup and he wanted them eradicated
“That we know and hate” speak for yourself.
If they were just going to retaliate anyway, why even leave the planet to begun with? Why didn’t they just say fck the Emperor and stay put?
The houses of dune should accept my offer for alliance.
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Easy first comment at 3 am lmfaooo
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Not Harkonnens but okay lol. continue
The prequel books I personally enjoyed more. I hope they make movies of those books. Frank Herbert and Brian Herbert are absolute geniuses. Spoiler alert. The real reason for the beef between the Atradies and the Harkonnens was actually because the first of both houses that we meet became the absolute best of friends. So that sign of cowardice definitely was a true betrayal.
If you think the beef between Atradies and the Harkonnens was bad, watch what happens if the Brian Herbert/Paul Anderson stuff gets put into this movie universe.
Regardless of how people feel about the post Frank Herbert's death material, the style and tone of the books Franks wrote vs the rest are very noticeably different. I personally think you couldn't marry up the 6 books Frank wrote with the material published since his death. The way dialogue is treated between them for instance, a pretty vital part of a film, would be very hard to reconcile.
Just out of interest, did you read the prequel stuff before or after reading the 6 first books and/or the Dune Encyclopedia?
@@user-uy6uc5ey5q I honestly can't remember. I have only read the first of the of the original books. Haven't read the encyclopedia. I did read the first two prequel books which seemed to blend nicely
@@neilbodwell9172 Thought you hadn't read the complete 6 books/ Dune Encyclopedia by your first comment.
The first book is probably the most accessible to general readers as the rest of the 6 become increasing more esoteric and mystical , which is missing almost completely from Brian Herbert/Paul Anderson's efforts. Neither of whom ever capture the philosophical side of Frank's writing style, and are pretty much conventional plot driven narrative SciFi books. If you ever complete reading through to Chapterhouse you see how making a complete series of the whole of the expanded Herbert Dune universe is next to impossible if the films were to have a consistent tone.
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It's a stupid idea for them to release Chapter 2 in late 2023, Chapter 1 isn't memorable enough for such a long layoff...even though I've watched it 3 times already
not stupid actually. do you want part 2 to fail?
@@joshblair5021 how could it fail if it comes out late 2022?...in your opinion?
What's stupid is that the studio didn't have enough faith in Villeneuve to allow him to film both halves back to back. I believe the biggest reason for the long wait time for pt. 2 is getting the actors all on the same page for filming. I too wish it would come out next year, but I've been waiting for a faithful adaptation of Dune since I was 11 when I first read it and watched the Lynch version right after. I can wait another two years.
@@marlenewaldron4690 I can agree with that, should've filmed both chapters at the same time, it's what I would've done...at this point, I'll be shocked if Vilneuve gets to do chapter 2, I mean he's earned it but I know how stupid Studio Execs get
@@marlenewaldron4690 Denis didn't want to film back to back. He already talked about it. He said filming part one almost killed him and he couldn't see how Peter Jackson did it. He was totally on board with not doing things that way. From the beginning he agreed to wait.
First
"The baron is the villian in the early story"...nope. you clearly missed the point of Dune.
"Was the emperor's name even mentioned in the movie?"....Lol wtf? Because that's the point of it?
They are both villains.
@@brotherjohnnyxXxX you missed the point
@@-VOR What point!?
@@brotherjohnnyxXxX the one you missed🙄
@@-VOR So, you don't have a point.
I don't hate this movie in fact I was really looking forward for it, but ngl I slept halfway through when watching this movie.
Dune doesn't deserve Mass Effect footage
The Bible is a greater story than this. Repent for watching this stuff
Hahaha
this guy def hates himself lol
@@bencera6067 Definitely
obvious bait is obvious
@D McD agreed