Interesting review with humour and good quality information. I really did learn from you quite a lot alongside enjoying the great humour you have. Haha. Usually the review videos get quite boring but not yours.
AMD Phoenix CPUs have 20 PCI-E 4.0 lanes available, which amounts to 320 GT/s, and yet HP decided to exclude a lot of features that's come to be expected from modern laptops with such capable CPUs and chipsets in 2023, such as a 40 Gbps TB3 compatible USB4 port, a 10 Gbps USB-C port, an SD/TF card reader and Display Port 2.0 with UHBR-10 bit rate. Both this year's Victus 16 and Omen 16 have the identical motherboard design, port layout, screen options, cooling solutions and even battery. And people wonder why there is so much disdain towards HP and fail to understand why is it that, when they come to a subreddit or a forum asking for laptop recommendations, 90% of the people just tell them to stay as far away from HP products as possible, no matter what the use case may be. This is the reason why we tell you not to purchase HP products, among other things like how they nickel & dime their customers across all ranges including their printers, servers, software support, pre-builts and so on.
Great video and I must say after owning a HP Omen 15 (Ryzen 7 4700h and RTX 2060) for almost 2 years, I really did adore it especially it being my first "gaming laptop" it's got a sharp design and still performs well. It's nice to see they've refreshed the design, especially to the rear can see the exhausts are now coming out a bit more which is good.. There was many models of the Omen 15 with a lot of screen bleeding but I guess that comes with the type of screen. But I just recently upgraded to a Lenovo Legion 5 at a cracking price and I'm glad I made the jump, the performance is pokey as heck.
@@theonlyredspecial Hi, I went with the mid range Lenovo Legion 5 (i5 12500H & RTX 3060) which was on sale for £699.99 which I couldn't believe at first!
Did you also have issue with keys X and R? I had/have those issues. But now this week tons of other keys started to fail. X and R seem to work again. but tons of keys under the right palm stopped working now
With the Omen? I didn't have any key issues as far as I'm aware, but I did stumble across a few topics on the net on this model regarding your issues. If that's the case for you, I know it may not be easy but perhaps you can pick up a replacement keyboard on the net?
@@Lif7ed yeah have been hunting a bit. Thing is, who says that part does have the same issue. I've read some posts where replcments also showed failure to keys. Things is, I need to ship it, so the price goes up quite a bit. But putting down again $1200 ex shipping and import after just 2,5 years is a nono. I always use a razor external keyboard. It's just a principle that I feel fucked by HP.
Just ordered this same laptop for myself right now, directly from HP webaite using my employer(morrisons) link for £878.99 amd wow what a pretty good deal! Cant wait to play some games
@@thenutsonyourchin Not true, check Jarrods Tech's comparison of laptop vs desktop RTX4060. There's barely any difference in performance. It's basically the same chip for laptop and desktop, same amount of cores and almost same clock speed (depends on laptop's thermal design).
@@thenutsonyourchin RTX 4060 is only rated at 115W, gaming laptops have been easily managing 140W GPUs. This generation is much more efficient, as the 4060 is rated at 115W and performs better than the 3060 which is rated at 170W. There might be difference in performance for higher end chips like 4080 and 4090 due to limited cooling, but not for the RTX 4060.
@thenutsonyourchin "Full power" for the RTX 4060 is only 115W. My laptop can handle 115W without thermal throttling, but it's a chunky gaming laptop (Asus Strix G17). I'm aware that desktop parts perform better due to better cooling, but the RTX 4060 is kind of an exception because it's rated only at 115W for desktops, which is manageable for most current gaming laptops. Other chips can have limitations like the RTX 3080, which is rated at 320W for the desktop version but only 115W for the laptop version.
I have real trouble decoding AMDs model numbers but it seems that is a really decent laptop CPU thats quiet under load unless you are running the GPU for games.
I need an ayudq between the laptop HP omen amd with qhd screen of 300 nits gpu 4070 or the HP omen transcend of qhd 400 nits with gpu 4060 the construction is a little better for the musmo price which would be better
Think AMDs implementation of the new Ryzen series somehow works better in laptops than desktop. Maybe because it doesnt have the stupidly thick head spreader.
Omen is a specific gaming brand though. That's the whole point. In the past they had HP Pavilion Gaming laptop's and that was just an HP laptop but Omen is a gaming brand. There is no HP branding on this laptop.
@@pixelrefresh348 Wdym ? It has 4 zone RGB backlit keyboard. Most gaming laptops around this price only have a single zone RGB lighting. So this is above average RGB for a gaming laptop. That being said, RGB sucks anyways.
3:54 🤣Just one to two generations, laptop chips catch up to desktop chips. This scores the same as say, an 11700k at 180 watts. With just 30% of the power. Even with Moore's Law being dead... Heck, the 12700h get an extra 1000 points over the 11700k.
looks ok to me tbh,. they all flex a bit, this one doesnt seem too bad. the overall performance is good, id probably opt for a 4070 GPU, bit more grunt for higher fps.
its packaging? lol. ive seen him slap down side panels a lot on the desk and you get a metal reverberation a lot on the mic, but its just leo. if you dont like it, im pretty sure he would tell you to F off anyway lol
Absolutely, also personally I’d prefer a QHD panel on the Lenovo Legion to this FHD panel. HP don’t sell directly in my country, so no onsite warranty and no educational discount. Lenovo however offer both, so a no brainier for me.
@@harismouzam4859 I ended up buying the Ryzen 7840hs laptop with the RTX4060 and can confirm that it came with 2 M.2 slots I already upgraded the storage.
@@Danny1024DMwhat about hinges quality does screen wobbling is too much in this laptop while using under the ceiling fan or in front of room cooler tell me bro ..
Bit scared of that laptop, is it going to have a female with hair obscuring her face appear out of the screen and drag me into a well? Oh that wait that was the Ring.
Integrated GPU 780M is perfectly capable of gaming Also, HP motherboards restrict all PCI-E lanes Never ever buy HP folks. They either make restrictions, build quality could be from 90s, customer support from India, tech support lying etc.
Quite interesting seeing AMD working so well with Nvidia.
Because Intel CPU's suck right now.
not only getting tech but also bristish culture
Did he throw a cup of tea at it?
@@festerleech4952 I thought you are supposed to put it in fish and chips before use before its truly considered British.
Interesting review with humour and good quality information. I really did learn from you quite a lot alongside enjoying the great humour you have. Haha. Usually the review videos get quite boring but not yours.
AMD Phoenix CPUs have 20 PCI-E 4.0 lanes available, which amounts to 320 GT/s, and yet HP decided to exclude a lot of features that's come to be expected from modern laptops with such capable CPUs and chipsets in 2023, such as a 40 Gbps TB3 compatible USB4 port, a 10 Gbps USB-C port, an SD/TF card reader and Display Port 2.0 with UHBR-10 bit rate. Both this year's Victus 16 and Omen 16 have the identical motherboard design, port layout, screen options, cooling solutions and even battery. And people wonder why there is so much disdain towards HP and fail to understand why is it that, when they come to a subreddit or a forum asking for laptop recommendations, 90% of the people just tell them to stay as far away from HP products as possible, no matter what the use case may be. This is the reason why we tell you not to purchase HP products, among other things like how they nickel & dime their customers across all ranges including their printers, servers, software support, pre-builts and so on.
Haha surprised HP is crap since 2008 as I remember fiddling with PCs
Bit plasticy that case would have liked to have paid a little more for premium metallic materials.
Great video and I must say after owning a HP Omen 15 (Ryzen 7 4700h and RTX 2060) for almost 2 years, I really did adore it especially it being my first "gaming laptop" it's got a sharp design and still performs well. It's nice to see they've refreshed the design, especially to the rear can see the exhausts are now coming out a bit more which is good.. There was many models of the Omen 15 with a lot of screen bleeding but I guess that comes with the type of screen. But I just recently upgraded to a Lenovo Legion 5 at a cracking price and I'm glad I made the jump, the performance is pokey as heck.
What specs is your legion ?
@@theonlyredspecial Hi, I went with the mid range Lenovo Legion 5 (i5 12500H & RTX 3060) which was on sale for £699.99 which I couldn't believe at first!
Did you also have issue with keys X and R? I had/have those issues. But now this week tons of other keys started to fail. X and R seem to work again. but tons of keys under the right palm stopped working now
With the Omen? I didn't have any key issues as far as I'm aware, but I did stumble across a few topics on the net on this model regarding your issues. If that's the case for you, I know it may not be easy but perhaps you can pick up a replacement keyboard on the net?
@@Lif7ed yeah have been hunting a bit. Thing is, who says that part does have the same issue. I've read some posts where replcments also showed failure to keys. Things is, I need to ship it, so the price goes up quite a bit. But putting down again $1200 ex shipping and import after just 2,5 years is a nono. I always use a razor external keyboard. It's just a principle that I feel fucked by HP.
Excellent commentary.
Thank you.
Just ordered this same laptop for myself right now, directly from HP webaite using my employer(morrisons) link for £878.99 amd wow what a pretty good deal! Cant wait to play some games
I'm interested in this laptop but do you know if the displayports (via USB C) are wired to the integrated or dedicated GPU?
type c's are integrated, the HDMI is dedicated
yep, like the other guy said only the HDMI is wired to the RTX 4060.
@@ninjafrozr8809 I prefer the USB C being wired to the iGPU so i could use portable monitors on the go without sacrificing too much battery life:)
Pretty good pricing almost seems better than what you can get on the desktop for the same money.
@@thenutsonyourchin Not true, check Jarrods Tech's comparison of laptop vs desktop RTX4060. There's barely any difference in performance. It's basically the same chip for laptop and desktop, same amount of cores and almost same clock speed (depends on laptop's thermal design).
@@thenutsonyourchin RTX 4060 is only rated at 115W, gaming laptops have been easily managing 140W GPUs. This generation is much more efficient, as the 4060 is rated at 115W and performs better than the 3060 which is rated at 170W. There might be difference in performance for higher end chips like 4080 and 4090 due to limited cooling, but not for the RTX 4060.
@thenutsonyourchin "Full power" for the RTX 4060 is only 115W. My laptop can handle 115W without thermal throttling, but it's a chunky gaming laptop (Asus Strix G17). I'm aware that desktop parts perform better due to better cooling, but the RTX 4060 is kind of an exception because it's rated only at 115W for desktops, which is manageable for most current gaming laptops. Other chips can have limitations like the RTX 3080, which is rated at 320W for the desktop version but only 115W for the laptop version.
5:35 whaaaaaat?😭
I have real trouble decoding AMDs model numbers but it seems that is a really decent laptop CPU thats quiet under load unless you are running the GPU for games.
7x40 is the true Zen 4 cpu.
while you may see 7x30 and 7x20 those are Zen 3/3+ and Zen 2 cpu
@@yusmeow 7840 is a good cpu, pretty good power demands too.
Yes the 7840HS is stupid powerful and very efficient, that means cool tempratures and impressive battery life.
Nice laptop. Cpu seems good
I’ve recently subscribed and just love the no-nonsense approach your team has. 💪🏿
Welcome aboard the guru team ❤
I need an ayudq between the laptop HP omen amd with qhd screen of 300 nits gpu 4070 or the HP omen transcend of qhd 400 nits with gpu 4060 the construction is a little better for the musmo price which would be better
Is the ram upgradeable.
yes. offically up to 32GB dual channel but i've heard from users that 64 also runs fine.
Think AMDs implementation of the new Ryzen series somehow works better in laptops than desktop. Maybe because it doesnt have the stupidly thick head spreader.
Can u plz make review of nitro 16 with Rtx 4060 AN 16
Have nvidia included the Fire Creation feature they released earlier this year on their desktop GPUs?
What’s that ? Must have missed it
Brave HP doing a gaming laptop under their own brand rather than create a specific gaming brand.
Omen is a specific gaming brand though. That's the whole point. In the past they had HP Pavilion Gaming laptop's and that was just an HP laptop but Omen is a gaming brand. There is no HP branding on this laptop.
HP have always made really solid laptops quite interesting to see a gaming orientated one from them.
It doesnt have enough RGB on it to be a proper gaming laptop.
@@pixelrefresh348 RGB is for kids or Girls 🤣
@@pixelrefresh348 Wdym ? It has 4 zone RGB backlit keyboard. Most gaming laptops around this price only have a single zone RGB lighting. So this is above average RGB for a gaming laptop. That being said, RGB sucks anyways.
Good choice of tea Leo given you do have Jean Luc's haircut.
I was checking at least some of the audience was of a suitable generation
Leo
3:54 🤣Just one to two generations, laptop chips catch up to desktop chips. This scores the same as say, an 11700k at 180 watts. With just 30% of the power. Even with Moore's Law being dead... Heck, the 12700h get an extra 1000 points over the 11700k.
Yeah it’s impressive how they keep optimising power efficiency to get more performance inside such small cases.
Yep. Doubling transistors is dead, all hail efficiency instead.
The bills certainly appreciate it !@@MrAfistinthasky
it’s an impressive machine at a reasonable price but I’d probably opt for one with 4070
Think the 4070 might be a bit too power hungry on mobile.
@@lordmalshun4154 I think the 4070 overhead isnt too bad. its when you go to 4090 that the problems occur - bigger PSU, massively increased thermals.
Nice job Leo. Weird it’s not got amd graphics
Nvidia are edging it at the moment in mobile
Would like to see it benchmarked against the apple m2 pro.
Would be interesting to see more amd gpu mobile focus. They must not be great as very few reviews show them in these laptops.
great review!
awesome showcase leo, love that CPU - GO AMD !
Why is he so aggressive in his enunciation of everything?
Need a vs this against the equivalent Intel.
3 kilos not bad for a 16 inch laptop that contains a really fast GPU and CPU.
That’s quite heavy tbh
@@geofftatesmate7748 It's 2.3kg for the laptop. 3kgs is with the charging brick included.
Is it me or is that keyboard looking a bit flimsy when Leo presses it?
most of them are quite flimsy, only really tough ones ive seen are lenovo thinkpad keyboards.
looks ok to me tbh,. they all flex a bit, this one doesnt seem too bad. the overall performance is good, id probably opt for a 4070 GPU, bit more grunt for higher fps.
This one or the msi bravo 15?
This is miles better than bravo 15
How many people will buy this for web stuff and literally never fire up that nvidia GPU?
People with more money than sense. If I were just using the web I'd buy a macbook honestly.
Leo should be reported to the authorities for the mistreatment of packaging. It's so aggressive they way he rifles through it all.
he does seem to get really pissed off at times with things - not sure why he throws stuff around like that.
Leo does seem angry a lot of times. just his way I guess !
its packaging? lol. ive seen him slap down side panels a lot on the desk and you get a metal reverberation a lot on the mic, but its just leo. if you dont like it, im pretty sure he would tell you to F off anyway lol
Thats his charm!! 😅 honestly my favourite reviewer!!
Consider it an extra stress test on the packaging.
Good video. Interesting laptop. I’d like to see an all AMD laptop reviewed. No focus is given to amd laptop gpus.
Does it have mux switch
Yess
looks like a great laptop, i was considering one recently, and Lenovo. not sure yet
omen is a decent laptop, but I think some of the lenovo laptops are pretty impressive, especially their keyboards if thats important to you.
Absolutely, also personally I’d prefer a QHD panel on the Lenovo Legion to this FHD panel. HP don’t sell directly in my country, so no onsite warranty and no educational discount. Lenovo however offer both, so a no brainier for me.
Yeah Lenovo make some great systems. Their legion range is impressive. They have amd models too which is good to see
Who at HP came up with that name?
Should have been the HP Fright Night
Bri’ish moment
what a cool guy. thanks.
4060 seems decent for money
Sounds like a hairdryer though under load.
I have a question. Does this laptop have 2 M.2 slots? I want to know which model number would include the extra M.2
Thats the one thing Im tryna figure out but no one has covered it
@@harismouzam4859 I ended up buying the Ryzen 7840hs laptop with the RTX4060 and can confirm that it came with 2 M.2 slots I already upgraded the storage.
@@Danny1024DMwhat about hinges quality does screen wobbling is too much in this laptop while using under the ceiling fan or in front of room cooler tell me bro ..
I have this exact laptop and unfortunately it only has a single M.2 slot
@@ninjafrozr8809
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Thanks!
Its quite funny to see "boring" HP doing a laptop with RGB on it.
Adapt with the times or pay the price I guess
thumbs down why? because Knowing Something is not the same like Reading Something like on this case(video)
That makes absolutely no sense so I’ve gave you a thumbs down. If you want to read something go read a webpage.
Still think I prefer the way apple does things.
Adding another £1000 to the price , yeah what’s not to like 😂
What sane person would run their laptop with all those things plugged into the ports at the same time?
It's more about showing which ports and connectors are included
Leo
Bit scared of that laptop, is it going to have a female with hair obscuring her face appear out of the screen and drag me into a well? Oh that wait that was the Ring.
You ok ? Lol
@@geofftatesmate7748 Not really sick and tired of being rained on.
It'd gladly take the ring over the spooky swizz in The Omen
Integrated GPU 780M is perfectly capable of gaming
Also, HP motherboards restrict all PCI-E lanes
Never ever buy HP folks. They either make restrictions, build quality could be from 90s, customer support from India, tech support lying etc.
The 780 is about the equivalent of a 1660.
It isn't even in the same conversation as a 4060.