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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2023
- @StevieBlunderReal shows rarran new and meta yugioh cards
The Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game is a collectible card game developed and published by Konami.
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rarran actually understanding small world from reading it is pretty impressive.
yeah i was impressed
i still not understand that card hahahaha
Had me floored that he managed to understand that convoluted mess without a problem, then goes playing HS again and somehow forgets basic reading comprehension for 10 minutes at a time.
I understood it the first time I read it, but had no idea how I would use it in a deck
I mean, it's only really hard to understand on your first read. Once you realize you're just chaining cards that only have 1 thing in common it becomes a lot easier.
Rarran understanding Small World better than most actual YGO players really highlights the "YGO players don't read" meme being based in reality.
I felt personally attacked when he understood the card just by reading it
Wait so does the card banish 2 cards and add 1 to hand? Cause it reads like you're just vanishing 2 cards of choice
@@forestskilbred9461 Yes, you banish two monster cards (with some restrictions) One from hand and one from deck and add a third monster to your hand from deck(With some restrictions)
@@forestskilbred9461im not a yugioh player but i believe its just fetching the thing from deck and then saying that, that card has been banished from the deck? so two cards are technically banished but the card from deck is in your hand after it resolves, i have no idea why yugioh cards are worded so confusingly, just rereading to double check for this comment is giving me a headache
@@ethanhealy453 The issue with the wording on the cards really it's restriction saying only one of those factors can be in common in the "middle" card. you have to know what your deck can work with alongside the card before going in moreso than many other searching cards because it essentially lets you search any monster if you fit the conditions it asks for. when it comes to generic card draw and consistency boosting in Yugioh, it has weird locks to it.
Banish one from the hand, to banish one from the deck, to add the 3rd to hand. the one in the deck has to have exactly one trait that works with the other two, no more, no less
I'm shocked at how fast Rarran understood Small World and understood how strong it was
Is not that hard. Get rid of one of your cards. Look for another that shares one and only one thing with It. Draw It.
If you want, repeat the process with the card you drew.
So a tutor, wich 2 steps to allow you to lessen the requirement? Yesh is great.
@@eldunae922 I don't think the second banish/search is optional. Unless you can "fail to find" on the second search like in MtG?
@@TheSplunger nop. if you would fail to find, you can't even activate the card
@@eldunae922 That's not how Small World works. You have to reveal a "bridge", the first card you reveal from the deck always gets banished face-down. You cannot just add the first card you reveal.
@@eldunae922 that's not how it works. Not so easy after all
To elaborate on the Mekk-Knight thing for those interested:
Mekk-Knights can't just be put onto the field. Instead, they need 2 or more cards in the same *column.*
Picture the field like this (i can't seem to line the two in the middle up correctly, just assume they're directly underneath the second/fourth zone above them)
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From top to bottom, we have: Player 1 Spell/Trap Zones, Player 1 Monster Zones, Extra Monster Zones (Barring special circumstances each player can occupy one of these, this is where Link monsters, the ones with arrows, initially go), Player 2 Monster Zones, Player 2 Spell/Trap Zones.
Now let's say Player 2 summons the lizard. Now the field looks like this:
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Now they use it as material to summon Salamangreat Almiraj, a Link Monster. Ipiria goes to the graveyard.
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Then, they place a spell/trap underneath it:
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Now, that column has two cards in it, which means they can put a Mekk-Knight in the monster zone in that column. Notably, MKs care about both sides of the field, so if the opponent has a monster like this:
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that also works to fulfill the condition to summon the MK.
This is how you use Ipiria to set them up. You use your one normal summon per turn for it, since you can't normal your Knights anyways, it replaces itself in your hand with its effect, and then you use it to make Almiraj.
I'm mostly confused on how it sets up the Mekk-Knights, cuz it blocks a zone you could summon a Mekk-Knight into, and I'm pretty sure the Links don't require a Column
@@rescuerex7031 You use it to make a link, Almiraj, and put that into the extra monster zone. Now the Mekk can go into the column that the Link (plus one other card) is in.
@@rescuerex7031 while there are ways to get it off the ground, for example, making a link monster or specifically girsu, the orcust mekk-knight, it's mostly a going-second engine because as soon as your opponent has either a monster or spell/trap in any zone, ann you have to do is set a spell/trap in the samle column and you're good to go.
what a ridiculously elaborate explaination for a yt comment, have my upvote!
The simplest YGO card
"If a card requires you to roll a die, it's definitely bad
Your next card is Sixth Sense"
honestly, six sense can be unbanned at 3 at current stage because the meta has become some absurd where 1 or 2 card can literally win or combo
Well you roll 7 on average so not that bad, right?
@@deviltrigger02that fact makes the card even more broken if anything. Theyll just draw into handtraps and their board goes from counterable to a complete lockdown
Snipe Hunter also wants a word, though people have reevaluated the card as being awful from a modern lens it was a meta staple for YEARS.
Sixth sense might be too slow currently.
Don't forget it's a trap
To be fair, Robin Goblin WAS busted during the time it was released. It was a cornerstone of the original Yata Garasu hand control deck, wich was t'he best deck of it's time by a mile.
And Phantom of Chaos' effect HAS proven broken on 2 other cards, and is very obviously a ticking time bomb that everybody knows will end up on the banlist sooner or later.
Thank you someone said it. It was ABSOLUTELY busted in early yugioh until chaos stuff came up. You had no interaction with the graveyard until then really minus monster reborn/call of the haunted revivals. Your hand was your main resource and the games were slow.
Yeah this card should be the example for a "Win more" card. Once you are ahead and have this card, There is no comeback
Phantom of Chaos has also proven to be a good card in Edison Format as well. Basically you set up your grave with Dragons or Vayu stuff, then banish Sky Scourge Norleras to send the entire board and hands to the grave. Then you draw 1 and pop off with your set up graveyard effects.
What 2 cards?
@@jon_bone I believe those would be Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom and Tyrant Neptune. Venom is a fusion that can copy effects of a monster in the grave for a turn, and Neptune is a Reptile-type Maju Garzett that also copies the effects of one of the monsters tributed for it's summon indefinitely.
In their cases the main example I know of for why they got banned was copying Independent Nightingale, which is a monster that's pretty strong but only at high investment, but it's effects are busted when you don't have to work for them; It's a level 1 fusion and gains levels based on investment, but both gains 500 atk per level and can burn opponent for it's level *500 once per turn, and it's unaffected by card effects. By itself it's small unless you sink everything into it, but you can summon it easy with Instant Fusion, and Starving Venom is level 8 (so +4000 ATK, Unaffected, and 4000 burn) and can be made pretty easily allowing for an ftk by summoning it twice to burn for 8k, while Neptune is level 10 so it's the biggest chungus who's unaffected by everything and burns 5k per turn.
I love how in YuGiOh the most busted cards are either a paragraph long or barely a sentence, there is no in-between
if a yugioh card doesnt have 5 different effects with at least 2 of them being negates its not worth looking at.
@@uteriel282 Hi, I'm new to the game, tell me, is Last Will good? I keep hearing this "painful choice" card is good, but it seems so bad to me. Plz explain if I'm right or wrong. /s
@@najawin8348 painful choice gain value by what you dump to the graveyard, what putting in the hand is just a bonus. one of the example by just activating 1 painful choice during the old age:
3x temple of the kings 2x makyura show to the opponent garuantee you activate trap from hand that turn, 5 cards stack to the grave, which unlocks a lot of trap that draw cards, and making pre-errata exchange of the spirits when your opponent graveyard has 0 cards possible at turn 1.
yugioh also got lots of graveyard synergy cards where you pick 5 of the cards that dump to the graveyard of your choice can be good. Also the reason why pre-errata future fusion banned once.
@@najawin8348Yes, both are good. Really good.
Painful choice is made for a specific breed of decks, e.g. the polarizing tearlaments, a group of cards that if sent to the gy read "start your combo". If I reveal 3 or 4 of them, which do you give me? Doesn't matter to me, I'm playing already.
Last will is less of a one-card-combo, but has the all-powerful generic special summon from deck: say your deck needs a specific unsearchable monster (let's say "cannon soldier" for a juicy FTK), you play last will and if you use any of your monsters for a link, synchro, you tribute it or pop it, there you go.
There is a reason they are banned, it's not that there are no archetype cards that do something similar (that too...), but that they have no restrictions at all, they trivialize getting to cards that were not supposed to be that much available
@@najawin8348 Painful choice is busted because you get to send 4 cards from your deck to the grave and your opponent chooses one of the 5 revealed cards to add to your hand. Basicaly you can trigger 4 graveeffects and get another card into your hand
If Rarran can't comprehend what kashtira fenrir is, imagine if he sees lord of the heavenly prison or psychic end punisher, both are what I call "stroke monsters"
Psychic end punisher isn’t that hard to comprehend tbh. Though I can’t say the same for heavenly prison.
Psychic end punisher is easy to comprehend what
@@chiconico9738 They're talking about the artwork. He was saying Fenrir's art is unrecognizable as anything IRL, so the comment was that Prison or PEP artwork would be a literal "wtf is that" moment.
Heavenly Prison is at least internationally wtf art.
calling heatsoul bad is a big stretch, it wasnt strong enough to become its own deck like in the OCG but it became instantly played in mathmech, which was a top tier deck at the time.
Yeah I have no clue why he said it was bad and compared to soul exchange is somehow good?? Like what???
Yeah and it's still played in cyberse decks as a backup "oh shit I got interrupted" plan B
Yeah it's a meta card, just not nearly as good as people thought he was when he was showing up on top lists. Also good if you have a lot of 1 card combos and most of your deck are hand traps. Not sure what Stevie's criteria for good/bad is cuz Phantom of Chaos was literally meta back in the days too for the reason he stated himself. It was also used in every deck that ran any given Chaos cards or DAD cuz they all had really good effects.
heatsoul before the firewall stuff was soo bad, you could do so much more with just circular and the disciple line, in the firewall build its a combo piece i guess
@@monkeylemur Yeah, idk what he was on about with Phantom of Chaos either... Oh, a DAD is in my graveyard, welp, guess who is popping some cards today.
Lil unfair to say Soul exchange was good based on its historical play, but call Vanity's Fiend bad based on modern playability.
Because Stun has never been the best deck in the game while decks using Soul Exchange like Perfect Circle has. From how Stevie has been rating these cards, T1 = good, T2 & rogue = bad
@@Goonjie Are Dragons not T1 in Edison? I guess maybe not Dark Dragon specifically, but it's really riffs on the same deck.
@@Goonjie Stun has never been the best but Mystic mine is arguably one of the strongest cards ever printed. His card analysis is just terrible lmao, no need to sugar coat
@Goonjie Vanity's was a really good card in monarch which was a tiered deck.
@@TheMansterTruck Was good in Monarchs and Drytron. Both being tier 1 for their time.
If Yu-Gi-Oh cards don't win the game, it is not good.
At the end of the day, Yugioh is a game about winning. Same goes for Hearthstone.
Well yeah. What else does a good card do? Lose you the game?
@@JoeLikesBlueself destruct button, someone topped Adachi cs 2019 with 150+ players with Razor burn self destruct button, and also 200+ man tournament in China, with ps5 prize, during eldlith and drytron format.
So yeah, it is still depends on the format, if it slow, prison deck is popular then self destruct button deck will be shows up again.
Alternatively, if the card doesn't stop your opponent from playing the game, it's not good.
Self-destruct button is strong because the alternative is losing a game.
Cards like Robbin Goblin and Soul Exchange were actually REALLY good back when they came out because of how different the game was, the slower pacing meant you could get a lot more advantage off of these cards.
The other thing with You’re Finished is that if your opponent has already popped off 10 effects, they have probably already either destroyed the set card or have a negate ready to go when the trap activates
*sigh*
The card does not require your opponent to activate 10 cards/effects, it also counts your cards/effects.
It doesn't make the card good because it lacks something every modern good card needs, especially traps, which is: It needs to be easily searchable.
I would still argue that the card is decent. It isn't gutter trash.
The card has the potential to be very good in a future format. Imagine in Game 2/3, you tech this card going first, and you set up a playline that allows you to full combo on your opponent's turn, you could probably fulfill 6 to 8 activations of this effect alone. Heck, in Master Duel, if you're fighting Tear/Kashtira/Bystials, you may be able to activate 10 cards without any interaction from your opponent whatsoever.
The biggest issue being, it's a winmore card when played like that. You probably have the means to drain all the resources from your opponent from a Turn 1 combo. Giving them access to Quickplay Spells so you can possible activate a potential Boardwipe is something that would already have been constructed from with an end board that probably doesn't want to include a non-searachable trap.
The right deck needs to come along to use it and make it look super busted with extremely high consistency. Otherwise, it would probably be better to run an alternative like an Extender or Counter.
Its just worse torrential tribute
@@NamePending9 More like a one sided Black Rose Dragon with a condition.
Can't you special summon it from your hand or am I misunderstanding how the card works?
Gotta mention that that Voxy is coming from the perspective of draft/limited, something like patches would be completely busted in a lot of constructed formats, but it would be pretty meh in a lot of limited ones.
There's also a metric fuck ton of cards that just generate tokens so just getting one for free by playing a specific tribe isn't that special.
In YGO it's a free extra tribute which sounds absolutely insane. And I haven't even played since I was a kid eating cards on the playground.
@@Taoru11I mean fair but how many token are cards in your deck and let u thin your deck
@@darkdemonangel16 To be honest I wasn't even considering that you can put 4 into your deck and thin it out over a few turns. Haven't played MTG in a while.
Patches supremacy it is then.
@@Taoru11 It wouldn't be over a few turns. You summon one pirate, all the patches in your deck jump to the field.
@@MrShukaku1991 I was going to comment about legendary rule but who cares if it still thins your deck.
Ipiria was also good because there used to be a card called Spright Elf that can for free revive any level 2 monster once per turn. So getting ipiria into rotation means youre drawing a card every turn on top of the free body.
I was always convinced Ipiria was a much older card than 2019, I thought it vibed like, early 2000s? Considering it was a card shown relatively early in the anime
Phantom of Chaos actually does see some play in Edison format specifically in Norleras decks, where the boss monster itself is very hard to summon but can be very easily sent to the graveyard. So, it's historically been a very bad card but, looking back, does have a niche use in a decent deck. Vanity's also did see a lot of play in Monarchs in the side-deck, alongside Majesty's Fiend, as it's attack and defence means it can be easily searched and can consistently summoned turn 1.
I am also thinking about stuff that sends stuff to the gy. you can easily yeet stuff from ED to gy, seems werd nobody has done anything busted with it.
I mean, that's an unofficial format that I'd literally never heard of until today, so I don't really understand why that matters
@@ShadowmancerLord It's a historical format that Konami recently held officially santioned national tournaments for, triple phantom of chaos was in the European winner's deck. And it is probably the most popular retro format currently.
@@ElusiveMirror No, Konami has a Time Wizard minor format, of which Edison is a potential variant.
And it's one of five alt formats they introduced at the same time.
Doesnt really mean much.
"Most popular retro format" is meaningless because how many people are playing retro formats to start with? If it's anything like, say, Hearthstone, the answer is likely sub-1% of the community
Another thing to note is that Phantom of Chaos has seen a lot of play in OTK decks.
Not only did Rarran get that small world is good, but he also understood what it did after reading it 2 or 3 times.
I'm genuinely impressed.
0:33 playable Obelisk came out in like 2010 I'm pretty sure
mid 2011 in TCG but yea
Stevie has no clue when any of these cards came out? Robbin’ Goblin came out in Metal Raiders in 2002
To be fair Stevie’s not who you go to if you want a great picture of these details but they’ve done a few of them now so why stop.
@@U1TR4F0RCEStevie has two braincells
bro voxy be catchin' strays in the yugioh video 💀💀💀
I thought phantom of chaos was pretty good in DAD decks. If you ever milled dad or got more than 3 darks in the grave you can just pitch him and use phantom
Yeah saying Phantom of Chaos was bad is just wrong. Wasn't a staple but definitely respectable in anything with a Chaos theme, pretty big in Lightsworn, too.
Also used in Dark Dragon in Edison to this day.
Yeah, calling Phantom of Chaos bad was definitly wrong. The card is (or rather, was) insane in the right deck. It even won the big edison Tournament at the last YCS
not to mention stuff like the Sky Scourges.
Agreed. And Steve said dragoon was really bad. I truly question his skill on yugioh.
Yo props to the editor for this one that was so fun to watch
These crossovers with other card games are really quite fun!
For the future, perhaps doing timeframes of YGO cards would be more consistent? Since YGO has no rotation older cards that were great during their time fall into obscurity, but that doesn’t mean they are worthless. Perhaps doing eras of cards (DM, GX, 5Ds and so on) would help show how the game has evolved over time.
The yugioh ban, limited, and semi limited list get regularly changed and new cards are constantly being added so sometimes old cards return to the meta.
The average of two d6 being rolled is 7 👍
Everybody who has ever played Catan hates this fact
@@marmics96 lul that’s actually how I memorized it, so I’m gonna have to agree with you
Mean, medain and mode are all 7!
@@marmics96 It's the most common except when the robber got stuck on my Brick hex and then it becomes rarer than a 12
Rarran actually understood Small World faster than most actual YuGiOh players. Nice!
Also, Stevie didn't explain Ipiria or You're Finished very well, so I'll take my shot.
Ipiria:
YGO's only resources are the number of cards available and your once per turn actions. Ipiria is a monster that synergizes with a powerful archetype that gets you another card in your hand to potentially use.
You're Finished:
Activating 10 effects in a single turn is actually extremely common. However, if your opponent is able to do that, there is a good chance that they already have something in play that will invalidate this card.
On top of that, it's a trap card. Trap cards have to be set face-down a turn before they can be used unless specifically stated otherwise on the card. This means if your opponent gets to go first, they'll be activating their 10+ effects before you have a chance to set this card.
Basically it's Niberu but with a potentially stronger payoff but at the cost of being significantly harder to play.
Summed up if you're hoping you're finished will help you then you don't understand deck building and are already screwed by the time you can use it when there's a hell of a lot of better options
I thought you could special summon it from your hand... I know Yu-Gi-Oh players don't read but maybe we would if Konami printed effects that made sense
I think that something about Soul Exchange that wasn't well explained is just how much better tributing a card is, versus destruction. Soul Exchange isn't as good as a Kaiju, but it's still better than regular destruction. Because there are lots of cards that either can't be destroyed by card effects, or gain an effect when destroyed in general. Tributing gets past any way to prevent or benefit from destruction. It's still sent to the graveyard, so sent to graveyard effects still happen, but those aren't as common as effects that trigger on destruction. In Yugioh, protection from targeting has become a lot more common, so Soul Exchange isn't quite as good as it used to be. But it was very strong for a long time.
I know I'm late to the party but yeah, Soul Exchange would be non-ideal in today's metagame but we now have a better, more limited-use version in *The Monarchs Stormforth* which is a quick-play, does not target and affects monster that are unaffected by card effects since it _"technically"_ targets a player.
@@aghadlarhen9397 Oh, it's been a while since I read Stormforth. I thought it targeted and the main advantage was that it was quickplay. The more you know.
I wonder how Rarran would do now that he’s at least tried to play YuGiOh, if only briefly
he streamed him playing yugioh duels, he had a dragonmaid deck. honestly he did pretty well for someone who has no idea of the game playing dragonmaids. chat was an ass there though
@@galmenz6118 i mean yu gi oh players are usually a-holes to new players spamming "NOOOOOO, why did you do that?" and stuff like a new player would know what it did wrong.
@@eminiclamWhat's worse is that they recommend a mid ass deck or a deck that's super long, combo convoluted, which is not beginners friendly at.
Ironically, a Blue-Eyes deck that have some Synchro, XYZ and Link is pretty decent for a new player. It's iconic, but not too complicated that both new players wouldn't understand.
Really enjoying this! Glad you brought it back! Makes me kinda nostalgic as well since he used lots of older cards which I used to have as a teenager, haha.
Weird to me how Phantom of Chaos is supposed to be bad for having a copy effect, while The Tyrant Neptune and Supreme King Dragon Starving Venom are both on the banlist having that effect abused
With cards like Ipiria it‘s always hard to say how good it is. The card itself is not great and Rarran was right in how he evaluated it without knowledge of Spright. 😊
Even without specific combos, having an extra monster on the field to use as material to summon with or to take hits from big beefy boys instead of your lifepoints, all for no card cost at all whatsoever, is going to be more beneficial than it is hurtful on average. (Maybe opponent is running something that takes advantage of enemies killed or # of cards on the board)
NO SHOT Rarran understood Small World off one reading. Editor doing God's work.
I follow yugioh regularly and I didn't understand how the card worked for the longest time. 🤣🤣🤣 I understood it searched but that was about it
There was a card like patches that dominated a standard environment a number of years ago called squadron hawk but with squadron hawk they served a lot of purposes like not really being worth a removal spell so often you could just get tons of damage off, or using them to shuffle the deck with jace the mindsculptor so you got to see a ton of cards. With patches because it's a legendary running multiples is less desirable so it's really just a 1/2 that doesn't do anything.
Squadron Hawk has evasion. But Patches triggers off of any pirate card and just goes to the board instead of the hand... But it's Legendary. And random 1/1s with no abilities are a lot worse in magic because the defender chooses blocks and damage is reset per turn. So I still think Squawks are better.
Heatsoul is good.... maybe not as your only game plan but if backed up with other interruptions its insane....
Yep, it's great in a salmangreat deck.
AYO @Voxy you being called out 8:20
"If a Yugioh card says 'Win the game,' it's pretty good." Final Countdown has entered the chat.
Zushin the Gigant let me intruduce myself
Final Countdown was a tiered deck at one point, I don't think that's the example you want to use.
Zushin is better since he’s never been competitive
mystic mine is upgraded version of final countdown deck
@@deviltrigger02 That's not exactly true for the very reason that there was usually two mystic mine decks, one which was a final countdown deck and the other which is mystic mine burn.
In it's defence phantom of chaos was also really useful in RDDT decks when you were just dumping several monsters per turn into grave during your draw phase
14:00 Sixth Sense is literally one of the top 10 most OP yugioh cards of all time (and it is a dice roll card) so there is that.
The subway surfer 4 seconds clip made me stay for the whole video
Rarran don't let him cope you, Phantom of chaos is played and is a key component in a 2010 meta deck in edison called Norealis
Huh? Norealis is def not meta at ALL.
Obelisk is a nice soft ball for a first question because it’s got brand recognition and a lot of people fall into the “it was invincible in the anime so it must be good” trap
Imagine if Stevie game Rarran the LORE explanation of Bystials and Kashtira
This video would be over 2 hours long
Phantom of Chaos was sick when it came out. Saw play in Lightsword like you mentioned, but also in DaD, and chaos variants. Sure now it's obsolete, but definitely not a bad card back in the day.
Stevie was really evil for using the psychic weapon known as Small World against Rarran
For Guarded Treasure, the only way I see it working is if you want to have a lot of cards in the graveyard, like with Chaos decks where you banish light and dark monsters from the graveyard constantly to summon out your boss mons, such as BLS-EOTB or Chaos synchro monsters such as Chaos Angel once you have done enough banishing and such. Very situational though because you'll want to run Maxx "C" too so you have options for what you want to discard and later banish if your opponent specials summons enough.
That was cool to watch. Seeing the perspective of someone who's never played the game but understands mechanics because of his experience with hearthstone. Good job!
0:30 Rara never watched the anime 😭
I'd disagree on Phantom of Chaos, it saw play in quite a few good decks back in the day. Most notably being Demise OTK, Lightsworn and also Nekroz, all of them being top tier decks in their times.
Just rewatched all of these yesterday. And now theres a new one. Lets go.
These style of videos you do are seriously my favorite. I'd love to see you reach out to a Pokémon creator for one of these in the future
Stevie will justify a card is bad because its a tech card on rogue decks but then say ipiria is good because of spright Make it make sense
Something to keep in mind, raran, is that a lot of the cards come from the anime & manga, then are imported later.
Ipiria might be a relatively "new" card in the physical game, but it debuted in the original anime back in the early 2000s, it's just that for whatever reason it took konami over a decade to print the thing.
(It also didn't have that once per turn restriction in the anime, so the anime version is actually kind of busted, hence the nerf)
Wait, it appeared in the anime?
@@ItsmisterX yeah, yugioh duel monsters season 3 during the virtual world/noah arc.
The executive that yugi dueled used a sort of half water, half reptile deck based around spamming out a bunch of copies of his level 7 & 8 water/reptiles boss monsters - neither of which we have irl yet.
it's quite fun seeing this, going to have a lot of fun with watching this channel.
Vanity have seen play in monarchs.
Iperia was busted because of the draw 1. On summon it draw 1 card and with elf it draw another card. In opponents turn it also could be summoned and draw another card, so you draw 3 cards by turn 2. That was peak consistency.
The moment that Sprite was mentioned I felt intense hatred.
Stevie finally being vindicated for the Countess rating is the kind of content we come for.
Stevie makes every explanation difficult for Rarran lol
I've been waiting for another one of these for a long time 🎉🎉🎉
Lol just throwing Voxy under a bus Rarran
Obelisk was played as a tech option during Dragon Ruler format for the mirror so it was most certainly not only just played in whatever that frog thing is.
Def not good still tho.
No one played it, it was cope even back then. People were bored of the format and tried out weird stuff to be spicy
Here they r again, I'm grateful for another ep tho I'm still waiting for ptcg guessing
what a duo. love these collabs
"Can you tell me what year the cards came out?"
"Sure I'll give you a ballpark"
>Lies about Obelisk's release date immediately
the god'sdate are a bit weird because they released earlier but those versions werent actually legal ot play.
@@Teixas666 Sure
stevie forgot to mention that kashtira fenrir has warped the entire meta around it since it got released
That’s just wrong. It was a decent boardbreaker before the rest of the Kashtira cards got released and didnt warp anything around itself.
@@sugar5374 it’s a free special summon for nearly every deck
Technically since PHHY was released, for the few months between DABL and PHHY it was like, a fine staple but not metawarping.
Seeing Stevie with the sorting algorithm above his head killed me!
God I'm glad to see Stevie again
Really disagree on that Heatsoul assessment from Stevie. Card saw play in just about every good mathmech build, and was in rogue decks like code talkers and salads. And the OCG even had its own deck revolving around it. Cards good.
Also pretty sure Novice Enginner saw play in 2018 with Paladin OTK decks.
And Ipira is also played for the effect and the level. Free draw off of Gigantic is pretty nice.
I think Kashtira monsters are like alien warriors???
Phantom of chaos is a vastly unexplored deck. There are multiple decks running phantom of chaos in formats like edison today.
@14:08, in defense of Pokemon, these effects, while sometimes seeing play, like Hypnotoxic Laser, few do, there are plenty of ways out of it, and they don't skip your turn (only your attack and retreat). Even then, most, if not all, decks run answers just kinda inherent in them.
"I think satan slipped out of hell and put this in a pack." I fucking love that line
Phantom of Chaos is the perfect example of a card that people figured out was good too late.
Today it has proven to be very strong when played in retro formats where it was originally overlooked.
Fun fact about the card: it was main decked in the list that came 2nd at the 2008 world championship.
phnatom was also the precursor is what would become a problematic type of effect : "Effect copying from GY" which led to some cards getting banned over potential abuse and some other to have their future design space limited
Road Warrior has a super broken Effect but it has a very difficult Summon Requirement and 0 protection. So as soon as it hits the field there is a 99% chance it wont even be able to activate its effect once without being Destroyed and/or negated :P
14:53 so true on that satan comment. I look at some cards and think “damn I can’t wait for this random common to be competitively viable in 10 years”
The reason patches would be bad in magic is there are a lot of cards that make one or two or even more 1/1 tokens, and those tokens don't have to be in your deck, you draw 7 at the beginning of a Magic game which in turn means there would be more chances for him to end up in your starting hand and finally there are so many deck thinning cards in Magic already (fetch lands, gitaxian probe and such) that patches would be simply outclassed by those.
Love the videos Rarran, recently found your videos after you collabed with Voxy and other MTG streamers, used to be a legend rank HS player myself, stopped playing after those 2 months of Demon Hunter Release hell, started playing Magic and sadly never came back to it.
I mean its not like hearthstone is any stranger to cards that generate lots of tokens as well, even some pretty efficiently costed ones nowadays where you're not paying that much for those 1/1s. Its not really the getting a token being that much more valuable in Hearthstone that makes Patches good. And while the deck thinning is definitely an upside Patches has I think its importance really tends to get overplayed, its more of an incidental benefit it also has, if Patches had a line of text that says your deck size is 31 so it effectively wasn't thinning your deck compared to just not having Patches in your deck at all I honestly don't think it would have actually changed how much Patches was played at all.
At the end of the day the simple reason Patches was strong was it was a card that gave you something for nothing, so to that end Gitixian Probe is actually probably a better comparison than the likes of other token generation cards. The kinds of decks that played Patches already wanting to have a pirate hit the board on turn 1 or 2 (or in Patches' prime just generally wanted any minions to be hitting the board on turn 1 and the existence of Patches pushed the 1 drop pirates ahead of the other 1 drops). For those decks adding Patches to your deck means you just get an extra 1/1 on the board at the cost of no card draw and no mana spent for doing something they were already doing regardless. A 1/1s not worth that much in an of itself but when it didn't cost you anything there's no reason not to play it, token generation cards don't really compare you are still (usually) spending mana and a card draw to get that card even if it is super efficiently costed and giving you those 1/1s at above rate. Patches just comes in totally free alongside another card you were already playing in your deck and were thus presumably already willing to pay for as is. Its strong in the same way a 0 mana creature that draws a card would be strong in just about any game, even if it doesn't do much the fact its doing something for basically nothing would make it a card you have to justify not including in any deck that could.
Patches' only cost is you can draw it at which point yeah it absolutely is a bad card when that happens no way around it, but the odds are favorable enough in the kinds of decks that run it that the benefit of getting something for nothing in a majority of games is worth the small percentage of games you draw a bad card. So to that end yeah Magic's different starting hand size and mulligan rules are probably the most relevant fact to evaluating a hypothetical mtg Patches and yeah, both of those work against it. But there's also magic's larger deck size, which actually works in magic's favour if you still have him as a one of. The fact you can go up to 4 and then the legend rule gets weird and can bump it back down to unfavorable compared to Hearthstone. At the end of the day though its hard to see how (usually) getting something for nothing isn't good in just about any game
The fact that Rarran figured out Small world so fast and how broken it is as a card is truly incredible. What's he doing playing Hearthstone?
It turns out, when you actually try to read and comprehend, figuring out it's use will soon follow.
Who would have thought?
@@luigifan4585 True, though Small World is a card within Yu-Gi-Oh as a card game that is well known for being more difficult to understand than other cards. There's even a whole website guessing game made just for this single card.
The time and braincells he has saved by playing Hearthstone have been resting, multiplying, and growing more powerful since they aren't being taxed or used for long periods at a time.
I just love the explanation of judgement dragon
Gigabrain Rarran understanding Small World we love to see it
problem with You're Finished is by the time your opponent has activated 10 effects they can just have a negate out. It's like Nibiru but they get to do a lot more things and it isn't a hand trap
Based on my understanding of the card, isn't this a great disruptor for combo decks? Let's face it, even with how fast Yu-Gi-Oh is, 10 card effects on a combo deck can't make you a great board. This can become a turn 0 combo stopper that blows away their entire field if they still want to continue their combo.
@@lostplushii All you need is one negate. Also, being a trap card means you can't really use it going second and it can be blasted by a card effect, so you don't even need a negate.
@@lostplushiia Part of Ygo Decks Put Negates Mid Combo,and theres cards that Can destroy it without Costs
@@lostplushii It’s a disruption trap card that can’t be activated from hand so it is useless if you’re going second. If you’re going first you’d rather have something like Torrential Tribute so you can disrupt your opponent at the best time rather than have that restriction which gives your opponent time to summon a monster which can just negate the effect of You’re Finished when you are finally able to activate it.
What the hell is stevie on about? When was soul exchange good?
Like, Goat? And it sees play in Edison? But this is why it's so frustrating to talk about whether a card is "good" or not. In what context? Soul exchange is garbage in the current state of the game, but it's crazy in older eras. Phantom of Chaos actually _does_ see play in Edison, and Robbin Goblin did see some very fringe play waaaaaaayyyyyyyy back in the day iirc. Just saying "oh, it's bad", ignores all this nuance because these cards, 9 times out of 10, aren't just good or bad in a vacuum. They're only good or bad in a context of other cards. And unless you specify that context it's meaningless.
soul exchange was used in monarch decks for a long time untill stormforth came out.
Literally any deck running tribute summons would run Soul Exchange because it is a ton of advantage at the cost of your battle phase.
In modern games, yes the card is doodoo since either Stormforth exists or decks work without it or have better versions (Floo and Unexplored Winds).
obelisk was super relevant during the Dragon Ruler format, it was hugely important for the mirror match
Yessss it's Stevie again, he's great.
Stevie is completely biased on most of these cards and that ruins the experience a bit
I mean, Rarran does the same with HS
Any examples?
@@drewpeacock9087 He's wrong about Phantom of Chaos, for instance, it sees play in Edison.
Heatsoul. Heatsould is a good card its not insane but its a good card
And ipiria is not a good card its q normal summon upstart that is not great
Day 3 of Rarrans Really Cringy Comment:
We got
"...Cheeks are bigger"
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Assuming that a level 2 monster is lvl 8
"Average roll of two dice equals 6"
That is all
Gotta love picking apart a massive wall of text just to figure out what the effect you’re rating is. Best part of the game for me
man I love this series
The editing on this video is absolutely god tier.
Phantom of chaos has a strong effect that was later put on different cards and those gotten banned for a time the main problem this card had was it required your normal summon and was a main deck monster while supreme king starving venom had practically the same effect but was an extra deck monster requiring pretty generic materials so it was way more consistent.
I used to play Vanity's fiend a lot. It's a decent beat stick plus or shuts down the opponent's nonsense pretty well. I don't know if it sees competitive play but it worked well when I used it.
Steve yes to the robin goblin. Too be fair though I played soul patrol with thestalos and spirit reaper so mine made a little sense.
Morphtronic telephon would be a funny trip-up next time you do one of these
The difference in card evaluation is insane. In magic if a card saw play in several viable decks, I'd say that card was good. But every time he's like "nah, it was a key part of 3 or 4 decks but it wasn't good."
16:02 the discarding part of Guarded Treasure is a cost, so you can't proc the effects of monsters that benefit from discarding (it has to be the effect part).
Ipiria was played for the effect in runic spright, cuz you play it on your turn and draw, then elf eff and draw on your opp turn.
Rarran you're super charismatic bro, keep up the good work
This was so good to watch
phantom of chaos uniqueness is that it can copy effects that are hard once per turn.
so it has nieche use cases than can become really insane if it gets a little more consistent
I remember when Phantom of Chaos came out. That card saw a LOT of play. It combos with so many things and Foolish Burial was also popular around this time if memory serves. Now, did it win any regionals? I think, like, one, but it was still an auto include in a bunch of decks from DDT to various fusion decks. Glad Beasts probably used it at some point. Six Samurai. Anyone remember Diamond Dude Turbo? That deck was bonkers.
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but the "exactly one" is such a ridiculous restriction. You have to find a monster that matches your original monster in ONE of those categories, but NONE of the others? TWICE?!
I wish that when Rarran mentioned that pokemon game Stevie would bring up Arcana Force THE WORLD
You're finished is interesting, because i can see it become a side deck card on a different format, like if there's a new meta deck that likes to go second for some reason you can do your plays and set it up for your opponent, yeah is a one and done but it can be enough to stop your oponent even if you don't destroy their field.
The problem with the card is that at the point you can activate this your opponent will have a negate up, make access code or can run over it. Also it is really bad against backrow removal.
There's just some many better options instead
I love these kinds of videos ❤
Fun game:
Take a shot every time Stevie says "for all intents and purposes" during this video