Recording Drums At The Tiny Desk (With Josh Rogosin)
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- In honor of the fourth-ever Tiny Desk Contest, our intrepid Tiny Desk audio engineer Josh Rogosin goes deep on recording drums. The Contest closes at 11:59 p.m. ET on March 25, 2018, so get those last-minute submissions in to npr.org/tinydeskcontest!
Remember: You don't need to have fancy audio equipment to make a great entry - just be yourself, and let your music shine through. Good luck! - Hudba
Learn more Tiny Desk tech tips from Josh, including this story on microphones, here: www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2019/04/02/705579879/tiny-tech-tips-microphones
Thanks for all the great work. What type of mixer do you use?
Wow! great info but are the instruments and microphones connected to an interface and audio software. How do we connect the microphones and where do we connect? Is it connected to a mixture, interface and audio software. What audio software do you use? would be great if you could share with us the idea for recoding the full song. Are these all played live or first you record an audio and then later sync it with the video?
@@anilrai9049 great fukin questions! ty:)
@@gazicj Oh I want to learn about all these as I really don’t have any idea.
Josh, because of you, TDC artists sound better than on most of their studio albums...Thank you for providing us with the gift of your audio expertise.
jamosensei
You have exactly Right - Lianne La Havas, Andwrson Paak, Tank &Bangas are definitelly better in NPR!
So - Now I listen only NPR concerts on YT.
Regards!
@@tomlibero3780 Dua Lipa too!
We appreciate you Josh!
Fun fact: Phase cancellation (or destructive interference) is used on purpose for noise cancellation headphones. Noise-cancelling headphones actively listen to the noise around you and plays it back "real-time" 180 degrees out of phase which makes the high part of the waveform cancel with the low part of the waveform, so it zeros out. Not that anyone asked...someone might like this haha. I wouldn't have thought of it in this context and how it produces great sound. So cool.
Thats fascinating i remember seeing something like that on Mark Robers channel. Sound acts in a very bizarre but incredibly interesting way....have you seen cymatics? Where they put sand on a plate and pump certain frequencies through it, and the sand forms geometric patterns due the the "shape" of the sound?
i've always wondered how. thanks
Ur so cool
Wouldn't that greatly affect the sound signature of the can? Just curious, i havent got a noise cancelling headphones myself
@@ether5431 perfect phase cancellation will result in zero sound. So since we are bringing in the 180 degree phase shift of outside noise signal, it will result in zero sound( or volume) of the outside noises due to phase cancellation. Whereas we can hear the thing we played( music,etc) properly without any problem with the outside noises cancelled out.
I hope that this is what you actually asked and you understood my point
So you're the reason Anderson Paak. sounds so much better at Tiny Desk than any other recording... Thanks!
That TDC is awesome! Worth a listen to those who haven't heard it.
Haha thanks 🙏
For comparison:
1 mic: 1:06
2 mic: 2:18
3 mic: 3:41
NPR should pin this comment
ty much
This is the most informative drum mic'ing video I've found and I've been watching A LOT
And it was only 5 min, crazy 💎🔥
What a lovely and precise educational video! Thank you!
I only put it halfway in the hole, and I can confirm it leads to isolation
JcGrubbsFilms As the bishop said to the actress
im more mature than this i swear
The employee retention at NPR Music must be extremely high- these engineers and musicians are geniuses! We appreciate your informative videos. Thank you!
Could this guy be anymore NPR-y?
Ha, nope
mjchmara1 well then, maybe you are too young...czcams.com/video/bPpcfH_HHH8/video.html
I'm agreeing with you, e.g. no, he could not be anymore NPR-y. I grew up on mid-90s SNL!
FIRST thing I said!
Must be the copious amount of soy they consume.
I've always been impressed with the sound engineering in this series, and this is exactly the video I wanted to see! Thanks so much for making it! :)
Josh from one audio engineer to another. I love your work every band sound incredible. You do so much with so little. It's an inspiration
Tiny Desk sound is always primo! Clean, natural and organic. Thank you for that inside look!! Kudos!
Omg i love you guys, the recordings that you do often appeal to me more than the album of the artists. That you make this series now is the most awesome thimg ever ! Keep up the amazong work
Love the attitude in these videos! So charming, it’s obvious you folks love what you do.
Finally. A tutorial on how to get that NPR/ Tiny Desk drum sound everyone’s after. Sweet. So hyped. Super.
This was so incredibly informative. And short?!? Amazing! Thanks for this!
Thank you Josh and thank you NPR for this very helpful video. I will definitely try these out.
Infamous Josh. We love what u do and can't wait for tiny desk to come back to the desk
Not only was this helpful but your explanation of phase cancellation is probably the best I've ever heard!
Love these educational videos from you guys at tiny desk. ❤
YESSSSS!! I've been begging for some engineering vids for a long time. Haven't even watched this one yet but couldn't contain myself lol. Thank you!
Estos videos son delos los mejores, gracias Josh y todos los que están detrás de Tiny desk:)
Thanks so much NPR. I need this
All this videos sound great, thanks for the amazing sound
Just perfect. Thank you and yes your sound rocks in the chest.
You guys are so generous. Let there be more from where you receive from
I saw a couple of videos of NPR... I am a drummer so always go first to the drum sound.. And .. OMG! this guy nailed in a way that make sing those drums for that kind of place!.. Excellent video!
Wow Josh you are fantastic! Keep these vids coming!
Great video :D would love more of these
this is like The Joy Of Painting for drum recording. Love it, thanks NPR!
Love it!! keep em coming!!!
You sir are the real hero of tiny desk!
EXCELLENT VIDEO. PLEASE, KEEP THEM COMING. I BEG YOU
Awesome video!!! More like this please!
That's the most adorable (and informative) thing I've seen in ages :)
Thank you for this!!! Informative as hell
The magic is, any mic can be the best mic to suit the recording, in the right man's hand. Hat off for Josh!
These guys are awesome!
I looked anywhere in the internet for josh’s tips on how he work on tiny desk! Keep these videos on! :D
Awesome bro!! I would love to see more of your mic techniques used in tiny desk!! Thanks!
this is really good thanks soooo much!
Bless you for this!
you guys are awesome.
Simply & it works. Thanks
Thanks a lot for your tips!!!
This video was more helpful than a lot of other recording technique videos
So nice tiny, we are waiting for others instrument recordings
There is. Just try looking further
@@jakealfrednunez6625 sir... That comment was 3 years ago
I Love the simplicity
This was short but extremely educational :D
I hope one day you make one for voice :3
Guys,you are great!Thanks
Thank you for this video!
This video has been really helpful. Thanks.Can you please do a video on live mixing as well?
This was such a great video, I know this was 6 years ago, so maybe time for a follow up video, where he can actually show the drum tracks in his DAW and how he goes about mixing a Tiny Drums session? Please 🙏
This is so awesome. I just recently downsized my interface from an 8 input to a 2 input audio interface, so this helps me work with what I got haha!
All the best i wish you..
Greats from Germany ☀️☀️😎
More!!!!! Thx.
So this is the guy behind the incredible mix of every tiny desk concert
Thanks you Josh.
Josh Sooo Talented ❤️
Josh does a fantastic job.
more of this please
This was great!
Nice tips. Congratulations!!!. Greetings from Mexico City
More please
i second that !
This was excellent advice.
Hey Josh- I used to work with Glyn a lot in the '80's & '90's and have a slight correction. The left mic just peeks over the floor tom, not above the cymbals.
Joe Schiff thanks so much joe! Amazing to hear a first hand account. Looking forward to listening to the difference.
Glad to help! You do great work. I love the TDCs.
This is fucking cool
That is awesome! Thank you for the knowledge
this is actually amazing
Love it
you are a genius my friend!
He’s a wonderful man
We need one of these videos from the videographer who filmed adele's tiny desk 👍
I Love you Josh, you're super. :)
Lovely & Fabulous tips darling.
thank you! really interesting
Hummingbirds are so nice 👍🏻
Thank NPR Music !
I would love a general walkthrough/overview of how he gets such consistently good sound in such a tight spot from so many different artists...what's his mindset? process?
I would love to hear a sample of the SM58 inside of the kick lol
I just tried this in my own recording and I can confirm, 58 on a kick sounds great
sm58 ftw, but take off the pop filter first for extra meatiness.
@@gitsurfer27 so just a sm57 haha
I know next to nothing about recording and engineering. It was cool to learn some things from this.
Great Video!
YES, finaly we get introduced to the legend himself.
The genius!
Oh man - Tip #3 - don't wrench your mic stands into different positions without loosening the tightening screws first, unless you want to throw away your nice mic stands every couple of years.
The sheer number of times ive watched this video when recording drums is astronomical
nice tutorial :D
Really helpful, thanks
just an idea how to make these tutorials even more helpful: If you play the same groove every time it's much easier to actually hear the differences between the recording methods :)
Else you might be fooled by the groove or the style of playing. For me the first Take with one mic sounded the best, but thats probs because I liked the groove the most :)
more !!
I love this video. sure Anderson Paak and all the other great musicians play brilliantly, but without you guys being so professional and expert at your job, then the best musicians will sound average. Thanks for explaining so it was so easy to understand. Cheers.
We did ours with a single overhead. Shoulda used the knee!!! I hope our entry is still eligible.
Let me just say the sound in Tiny Desk Concerts is always amazing!!! So this is so cool to see why and learn at the same time!! I wonder, is the EQ done live or is it preset in rehearsals and never touched again? Great stuff!!
Lots of EQ after in the computer DAW
grasias
We Will Rock You was people stomping on a stage, but your point is well made.
that very first rim hit really scared the bejeezus out of me
any1 else watching this even though they don't plan on recording drums anytime soon lol?
Maybe it's just me, but I love the sound of the 1 mic technique...
1 & 3 for me
Where do you put it?
@@matthewdonaldleddy if you watched the video he uses the right knee technique
it's tiny it's tiny and it fits right in
yessss
KEXP vs TND mic crews need to be a throwdown
KEXP sucks totally in comparison with TDC
Would love to hear about approach to panning drums
I'm really trying to learn this stuff and this is a great video. I wonder, wouldn't the 3 mic setup have the phase cancellation you spoke of just a moment before? It didn't seem like the mics are at the same distance from the snare drum.