Yeah, I'm upgrading my 1080p monitor for the first time in a decade (early IPS) and it seems like the clear move is a standard IPS like the M27Q (or hold tight with your current monitor) and wait ~2 years for real OLED/micro LED/HDR panels to really become viable.
@@TheGreektrojan I have to be honest with you, even if I had unlimited budget I'm not sure I'll ever choose OLED for desktop use. Too many compromises compared to high end local dimming LCD.
Totally. Proper backlight strobing is a big reason why I still feel restrained to invest in a monitor. It makes such a massive difference. I truly believe manufacturers can come up with some smart mechanism to have good looking backlight strobing at the same time as adaptive sync. It's just a matter of whether they see customer demand for this. I hope eventually they will, as backlight strobing makes motion so much better.
If and when these Coolor Master HDR monitors receive their promised firmware udpates, I would love to see a follow up that addresses how these changes affect your opinions. My hope is that the update will allow proper HDR + VRR, a proper HDR auto mode, and better color control. If those are fixed this will absolutely be my next monitor! While I would obviously love more dimming zones, I don't want to pay $1000+ for a monitor
the LD algorithm is more important than more dimming zones, for example TCL TV's have fewer dimming zones but they produce a better picture than the competition because their algorithm is better
@@FatheredPuma81 As stated in the review, the HDR setting in the OSD for the monitor only has the options of "Off" and "Auto". But rather than what you would expect, where it only goes into HDR mode when HDR content is trying to be displayed, it just tries to put everything in HDR all the time. This results in SDR content not looking correct, meaning that unless you're fine with that issue, you will have to manually switch between modes all the time. That is very frustrating, and should not be the case.
@@dariomladenovski7047 While this is true to an extent, fewer zones simply cannot provide as much granular control and detail as more zones, all else being equal. It's crazy to me that Apple has had HFR HDR displays with 2500+ zones for multiple years now, and yet everyone else is struggling to provide even ~1000.
@@Hobbles_ Idk why this guy posted his comment then. The issue was fixed before I got my GP27 which was before this comment. Unless he doesn't know how to turn HDR off in his software?
I have purchased the cooler master GP27q and the firmware update as of the 7/12/22 has enabled VRR and HDR and local dimming to work all together the only bug is at 165 Hz colour banding is slighlty noticeable this is resolved by dropping to 144hz and this has already been mentioned by others and by me on the reddit post with coolermaster replying that they are now aware and will fix in future firmware update. Overall The monitor is brilliant with VRR and HDR all working it is brilliant hopefully cooler master will resolve HDR colour banding at 165 hz but running at 144hz there isnt any banding that i can notice and i dont notice any percetible diffrence in smoothness of animations or any perceptible difference in FPS gaming I still suck at 144 or 165hz lol. I would recomend as this is proper HDR at £500
would you recommend this monitor for a console player mostly playstation 5 and also for single player guy i want to be impress with colors while passing stories and good resolution either 1440p or 4k the fps dont matter that much since i be playing story games but if it can run at 120 fps then thats awesome !
I just brought one of these in the UK and it came with the latest firmware that enables adaptive sync and HDR and has no flicker issues. The factory calibration seems better but the reds are still a bit blown out when using local dimming in SD mode. I advise using a cooler colour preset if you want to use local dimming in SD.
would you recommend this monitor for a console player mostly playstation 5 and also for single player guy i want to be impress with colors while passing stories and good resolution either 1440p or 4k the fps dont matter that much since i be playing story games but if it can run at 120 fps then thats awesome !
Hard to imagine that these technologies have been available for ages and no one has yet to get it right in a decent package: 1440p, variable refresh, decent hdr, 16:9, no curve, no ‘gamer bling’, 27-34”. Is that really too much to ask?
@@Keivz mini led ain't that old as a technology really and TVs make the most margins so panel makers wouldn't prioritise monitors. The people asking for those specs in a monitor are a vocal minority I feel. Supply chains are still getting unfucked so there's that too
With the recent rise of FALD gaming displays and their firmware problems/hiccups it kinda start to make sense why the PG27UQ and Acer X27 took so long to hit the market and costed so much. FALD worked both in HDR and SDR, HDR worked perfectly with G-Sync, no flickering and variable overdrive in all situations, good color performance with an sRGB mode that didn't lock you out of other options and low glow panels made them quite impressive and still today everything is pretty much a sidegrade at best.
16:45 love the approach of reviewing as-is, but also mentioning the promises because it gives a heads up to maybe google if things have changed later on.
So I've found the channel. And it's everything I've been looking for. I've wanted a decent reviewer. This seems to be the only channel capable of doing more than just reading the brochure.
The 4K model from CM is awesome imo, I’ve preordered mine and my first “Proper” 4K monitor which I’m looking forward to getting (next month here in Australia 🇦🇺) 🥰👍
Nice to see you ramping up monitor content again. I appreciate seeing it here, when HWU's upload schedule has no room for it. This channel has good potential to reach six-figure subscriber numbers in the near future when sustained by these releases.
I look forward to the day when the monitor could enable backlight strobing only when there's movement on the screen. That would limit its strain on your eyes while allowing you to still see clearly when your mouse is moved quickly.
Great review Mr. Tim. I can't wait for an OLED w/3440x1440 resolution that has a solid BFI mode. That'd be my holy grail. That should have the absolute best motion clarity. I'll deal with lower brightness for just ultra smooth motion clarity.
This is a really great monitor with really deep blacks, bright, great colors, quite good HDR... it's just really annoying that it sometimes goes completely black when you switch to or from HDR (the windows setting). 5 months since last update, hope they do one more to fix the black screen issue and its a solid monitor that i would highly recommend, it's the only issue i've ran into (after 2 days).
Yeah, this monitor would be a buy if they manage to fix those issues. They did say VRR and white balance control in HDR is their priority, so hopefully, this really does get fixed.
@@Hobbles_ not in a gaming monitor man. Maybe there's one or two no name games that nobody plays where it might look good, but everything else it always looks worse. Even Doom....ehh. I have 2 OLEDS, I have yet to see anything other than maybe a few movies that looks good in HDR. It's probably the single dumbest reason to make a buying decision for a gaming monitor.
Having just bought an HDR QLED TV for use with my media PC, I can attest to how much better games and media content look in HDR. Colours just pop and the blackest blacks make it a great upgrade from a standard 4k image. Also, not having the worry of "burn in" associated with OLED gives great peace of mind.
Thanks Tim, another great review! will all monitor videos be uploaded to this channel from now on, apart from “best **** monitor” roundup videos that will go on HUB?
After the reviews have started trickling in I'm glad I picked up my Dell 1440p 165hz to get me by until HDR monitors get better/more affordable. I'm hoping this product will put pressure on the market and bring this tech and affordability to the 1440p 27 and 34 market in the near future. If the Coolermaster updates do pan out and fixes the VRR/HDR problems great! I may buy one and just use my Dell as a second monitor. Otherwise it looks like for this refresh rate you are better off sticking with the sub $300 monitors or for similar money jumping to 240hz.
I believe we have the same monitor if you referring to Dell S2721DGF and for me it was the best purchase ever made and i am buying monitors and pc part's from crt only when games had cga and vga graphics maximum :)
@@uncleurda8101I’ve the Dell S2722GDM and I can say it’s much. Erred than the 21DGF. That monitor is head to head with odyssey G7 if not even a slight bit better
There are multiple chinese-branded mini-LED monitors out there. The most common are the ones with around 380~ dimming zones. You can get them in either 4k or 1440p
Yeah but those are not enough zones. You need at least 1000 zones to get an image that comes close to Oled. And even then, haloing occurs on small, bright objects with a dark background.
Damnit, it was so close to being a perfect budget HDR monitor! The inability to adjust white balance in HDR combined with atrocious factory white balance in it was a deal breaker. If this issue (and if VRR in HDR gets unlocked) gets resolved will you revisit this monitor?
Tim, I got your intro...all black and white and grainy with some crazy dubstep track, way out in the Outback, you're boxing with a kangaroo and you knock him out with a monitor...you're welcome.
Most content and games are still SDR + IPS contrast sucks = The bad SDR dimming is equally important to the HDR+VRR issue and also definitely a deal-breaker.
Great review as always. Other than that, can you also give some thoughts on Viewsonic VX2882-4KP 28” 150Hz? That monitor kinda piques my interest, since it got refresh rate at 4K at affordable price, at least in my region.
Although HDR doesn't work with VRR enabled (hopefully gets fixed with this "firmware update"), I don't think would be a deal breaker for me, as I would only use HDR for content consumption. £500 here in the UK is not a bad price for what the monitor offers, would love it even further if it was 240hz instead of the 165, but it's ok... UK prices are really bad right now, brexit, pandemic, now recession and the war in Ukraine, making things really difficult here, and no monitors on the market right now offers what this one does for this price... otherwise great review, thank you
Wow, these monitors are so compelling. But unfortunately, it is not available in my country yet & even if it ever comes in stock it would be twice the price of the MSRP.
My dream monitor would be a 32" IPS 165Hz monitor with FALD HDR and VRR support. I've searched everywhere a monitor that meets all my requirements but there just seems not to be any yet. The closest thing to it would be the Gigabyte M32Q but it doesn't have local dimming. I am a PlayStation fan and I'd like to use this "dream monitor" for the PS5, for gaming and cinema. I don't want 4k. I don't want 27" (too small). I guess I'll just have to wait...
Almost the monitor I've been looking over two years for. I could probably settle for an IPS with a good FALD system but I would prefer VA , and ideally, VA with a G-Sync module since it seems like VA tends to struggle with adaptative sync below 60 FPS (which I've found is the time I need it the most). But I've been waiting since at least 2019 for a 1440p, VA, FALD and G-sync module monitor, and this is the closest I've seen to that so far.
Whats the best way to watch 1080p video on 1440p screens? Since not really possible to do integer scaling? Just normal stretching scaling or black bars? Is there a quick way to switch from 1440p full screen and 1080p black bars?
I, for one, am quite excited about someone finally producing a more affordable true-HDR-monitor, been waiting for that to happen for a LONG time now! Hopefully other manufacturers take note and try to compete.
Any chance you guys review the NZXT 27Q? It appears to be a very good 1440 display that is priced very competitively. Would love a review from people that actually know what they are talking about.
Shame it has some dealbreaking issues... I will revisit this one if they manage to release firmware updates to iron these kinks out but if they can't, I'd rather get something like the excellent Dell S2721DGFA instead of paying for broken features (HDR but no Adaptive sync? That means literally never using HDR so might very well get a monitor without it and pay less...)
I dont think that dell has any proper HDR hardware, you need enough local dimming zones for it to look any good and from a very brief search on my part, I cant see anything about that on the Dell.
@@jai2628 "so might very well get a monitor without it and pay less" he wasnt comparing HDR with the dell, he was saying he'd rather get one without if he cant use HDR anyway.
As i understand you just will play at 60hz=60fps when enabling HDR , so if you are not play competetive shooters often its a good choice anyway. Subject has great responce time at 60hz
Are you going to review the AW3423DWF? I've been eyeing this monitor and saw many positive reviews on it but I'm waiting for your review. Mainly want to know if they improved the processing lag from the non F. I thought it may have been the g-sync module causing it to be unusually high and was a big reason I decided to skip the non F version.
Would it be possible/legal for you to release the files needed for calibration for the srgb color gamut? I know it technically is different for every monitor but these tempest monitors appear to have all the same bad red channel compression
I think the firmware issues are fine, considering 2 months since this review this monitor isn't available for sale except for in select and specific countries.
omg...what is that thumbnail man..i thought it's an ultra wide one was so happy i want an ultra wide 2k+ hdr monitor that won't cost an arm and a leg...and a kidney
As I either program or game, but never watch media, on my monitors, a monitor that can't use HDR with VRR effectively doesn't have HDR :( Any plans to review any future firmware changes? (I don't know enough to know if such a firmware change could mess with other performance characteristics...)
I just wish this monitor came with a decent remote control, like the BenQ Morbious range. With so many settings available, clunky around the back controls aren't quick and easy to switch between, and need a basic control interface.
are you going to do a recommended monitor for each size at 4k, 1440 ect. like last year before holiday shopping / cyber monday .. still looking for a 4k , 32in, kvm, usb c, ect. ect flat monitor, that is good for gaming, movies and productivity. lol..
pretty sure @9:25 its due to HDR not local dimming algorhythm since multiple sites like tftcentral show no increase in lag when using local dimming in SDR mode, but you said it was because of local dimming
Ever since I got a monitor that support variable frame time I've just kept it at that. Using a fixed refresh rate haven't even occurred to me in a long time. This makes me wonder why things like back light strobing still is exclusively available for fixed refresh rates even on most new monitors released today. These features could just as well not be there at all as far as I am concerned as I won't be disabling FreeSync just to enable something like that. To me the variable refresh rate means I no longer care much about what exact framerate I get in games as long as it's at least 60 Hz. The monitor will sync far below that but I try to make sure the framerate doesn't go below 90 Hz in average, and if it dipps to the 60 Hz range to often I will adjust the graphics settings to address that. But other than that I simply don't care much about the exact framerate. When using a fixed framerate monitor I have to be a lot more careful with the graphics settings as any dip below the refresh rate will result in ugly stutter as I can't stand gaming at fixed refresh without VSync. Tearing just give me head ache, so VSync on is a necessity when using fixed frame rate. For some games I used to go as far as limiting games to run at half the refresh rate and turn on VSync. This lead to horrible frame rate but at least there were no stutter or tearing which was more important for me. These are reasons I won't switch FreeSync off just to enable things like Backlight Strobing or HDR.
I really wish reviewers would stop encouraging manufacturers to spend unnecessary budget on monitor backs, encourage them to make plain flat cheap black or white plastic no one looks at the back of the monitors! Let them spend the budget on better screen tech or better OSD, better BFI, or just pass on the savings of unnecessary, wasteful back product design onto us with cheaper products. I mean yeha 500 is very cheap but it could have been 450 if it didn't have those wasteful and unsolicited lights on the back. Maybe 400 if the injection molding for the plastic was simpler and cheaper. Imagine if they the offered a SKU without a stand for 50 less again, that's 350 for a great monitor, that's mind-blowing. Only thing that's justifiable on the back of a monitor is something like the Philips ambilight thing. Even so, just offering a separate kit for that only to those who want it is still best but I wouldn't mind paying extra for that. To my knowledge Philips holds patents on that so other manufacturers can't do a similar thing so yeah, just plain cheap plastic, no complicated designs, no expensive injection molding, no pointless lights that avoid you from having a true dark room for best content consumption. thank you! very much
To be fair, you don't really need any adaptive sync or vrr on a 165hz monitor. It's not like you can notice any tearing when it refreshes so quickly. So it is not a deal breaker for sure.
Iirc this panel is the same as the AOC varients which Tim has mentioned in other vids but not reviewed. This is down to lack of genuine availablity, though it is generally available in Europe (incl UK) as of 18 Nov 2022. Reviews of this monitor and the 4K varient mention the exact same issue as Tim has laid out for the Cooler Master varients with those reviews hoping that Cooler Master would be able to solve the firmware issue preventing HDR and VRR working together. Let's hope that the price tag itself is enough to shake up the market as currently AOC seem to be dragging their feet with the firmware issues and leaving for third parties to resolve isn't a good look.
Local dimming is disabled in SDR mode? Does this mean that when browsing the web, doing windows stuff, watching youtube... i wont have the nice blacklevels? How do i get HDR (or lets call it "good colors and black levels" in windows / chrome / youtube????
What’s the best option at this price point for 1440p high refresh rate in terms of performance and features? 14ms delay in HDR would make that pretty prohibitive in any kind of shooter games, what types of HDR content would this monitor be good for?
We looked into the GP27Q's firmware update here: czcams.com/video/IswoGcmxes4/video.html
Can you look at firmware 1.4.1
Excellent review. This channel has been on fire lately.
Seems like whenever a decent monitor comes out there is always a catch that makes it a deal breaker.
I am hoping they fix the VRR issues soon, so that I can order this one.
@@MoMoMonsterkil who actually uses vrr and when would one use it?
@@josephoverstreet5584 everyone and all the time? (for gaming)
Yeah, I'm upgrading my 1080p monitor for the first time in a decade (early IPS) and it seems like the clear move is a standard IPS like the M27Q (or hold tight with your current monitor) and wait ~2 years for real OLED/micro LED/HDR panels to really become viable.
@@TheGreektrojan I have to be honest with you, even if I had unlimited budget I'm not sure I'll ever choose OLED for desktop use. Too many compromises compared to high end local dimming LCD.
Hope 2023 will be the year of cheap proper HDR monitors, with good response times and good backlight strobing and other good features, excited
Totally. Proper backlight strobing is a big reason why I still feel restrained to invest in a monitor. It makes such a massive difference.
I truly believe manufacturers can come up with some smart mechanism to have good looking backlight strobing at the same time as adaptive sync. It's just a matter of whether they see customer demand for this. I hope eventually they will, as backlight strobing makes motion so much better.
@@kazaakas the only way for them to know about demand is to launch a model and see how well it does in sales...
If and when these Coolor Master HDR monitors receive their promised firmware udpates, I would love to see a follow up that addresses how these changes affect your opinions. My hope is that the update will allow proper HDR + VRR, a proper HDR auto mode, and better color control. If those are fixed this will absolutely be my next monitor! While I would obviously love more dimming zones, I don't want to pay $1000+ for a monitor
Proper HDR Auto mode?
the LD algorithm is more important than more dimming zones, for example TCL TV's have fewer dimming zones but they produce a better picture than the competition because their algorithm is better
@@FatheredPuma81 As stated in the review, the HDR setting in the OSD for the monitor only has the options of "Off" and "Auto". But rather than what you would expect, where it only goes into HDR mode when HDR content is trying to be displayed, it just tries to put everything in HDR all the time. This results in SDR content not looking correct, meaning that unless you're fine with that issue, you will have to manually switch between modes all the time. That is very frustrating, and should not be the case.
@@dariomladenovski7047 While this is true to an extent, fewer zones simply cannot provide as much granular control and detail as more zones, all else being equal. It's crazy to me that Apple has had HFR HDR displays with 2500+ zones for multiple years now, and yet everyone else is struggling to provide even ~1000.
@@Hobbles_ Idk why this guy posted his comment then. The issue was fixed before I got my GP27 which was before this comment. Unless he doesn't know how to turn HDR off in his software?
I have purchased the cooler master GP27q and the firmware update as of the 7/12/22 has enabled VRR and HDR and local dimming to work all together the only bug is at 165 Hz colour banding is slighlty noticeable this is resolved by dropping to 144hz and this has already been mentioned by others and by me on the reddit post with coolermaster replying that they are now aware and will fix in future firmware update. Overall The monitor is brilliant with VRR and HDR all working it is brilliant hopefully cooler master will resolve HDR colour banding at 165 hz but running at 144hz there isnt any banding that i can notice and i dont notice any percetible diffrence in smoothness of animations or any perceptible difference in FPS gaming I still suck at 144 or 165hz lol. I would recomend as this is proper HDR at £500
would you recommend this monitor for a console player mostly playstation 5 and also for single player guy i want to be impress with colors while passing stories and good resolution either 1440p or 4k the fps dont matter that much since i be playing story games but if it can run at 120 fps then thats awesome !
I just brought one of these in the UK and it came with the latest firmware that enables adaptive sync and HDR and has no flicker issues. The factory calibration seems better but the reds are still a bit blown out when using local dimming in SD mode. I advise using a cooler colour preset if you want to use local dimming in SD.
How do you use the monitor? In games I am using hdr with local dimming high. User 20 for overdrive. For photo editing should I switch to srgb?
would you recommend this monitor for a console player mostly playstation 5 and also for single player guy i want to be impress with colors while passing stories and good resolution either 1440p or 4k the fps dont matter that much since i be playing story games but if it can run at 120 fps then thats awesome !
Literally my dream monitor lol and I'm sure for a lot of others as well. Let's hope the firmware stuff gets sorted out and I'll buy it in a few months
Hard to imagine that these technologies have been available for ages and no one has yet to get it right in a decent package: 1440p, variable refresh, decent hdr, 16:9, no curve, no ‘gamer bling’, 27-34”. Is that really too much to ask?
@@Keivz mini led ain't that old as a technology really and TVs make the most margins so panel makers wouldn't prioritise monitors. The people asking for those specs in a monitor are a vocal minority I feel. Supply chains are still getting unfucked so there's that too
I'm waiting for a 1080p FALD 500+ Dimming Zones as not everybody games at higher resolutions like 1440p and or 4k.
@@doctorfresh3856 nobody is going to make that because nobody is going to buy it lol
@@imBriz Lots of people would buy it. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean nowbody would buy it.
Apparently the firmware update is live now and VRR + HDR works. Would be great if you guys can post an update after firmware update.
You are the absolute BEST! Thank you very much for this review!
With the recent rise of FALD gaming displays and their firmware problems/hiccups it kinda start to make sense why the PG27UQ and Acer X27 took so long to hit the market and costed so much. FALD worked both in HDR and SDR, HDR worked perfectly with G-Sync, no flickering and variable overdrive in all situations, good color performance with an sRGB mode that didn't lock you out of other options and low glow panels made them quite impressive and still today everything is pretty much a sidegrade at best.
The only thing left for CM to fix is adaptive sync in HDR and to add more FALD zones for better blacks and it'll be a must buy if at the same price
16:45 love the approach of reviewing as-is, but also mentioning the promises because it gives a heads up to maybe google if things have changed later on.
THANK YOU FOR THIS REVIEW
Loving all of the content recently, please keep it coming!
So I've found the channel. And it's everything I've been looking for. I've wanted a decent reviewer. This seems to be the only channel capable of doing more than just reading the brochure.
cooler master is making some great products lately , great SFF case, great PSU, and now monitor
Also there 712 mouse
@@Pividol very nice mouse
Except AIO
The 4K model from CM is awesome imo, I’ve preordered mine and my first “Proper” 4K monitor which I’m looking forward to getting (next month here in Australia 🇦🇺) 🥰👍
Where did you order it from? I can't find it anywhere and I'm desperately looking for it.
@@matthewsanderson1426 Mwave and PLE have the option to order or preorder (assuming it's the same screen)
Nice to see you ramping up monitor content again. I appreciate seeing it here, when HWU's upload schedule has no room for it. This channel has good potential to reach six-figure subscriber numbers in the near future when sustained by these releases.
Thanks for the review & congrats on 50K subs 👍
I look forward to the day when the monitor could enable backlight strobing only when there's movement on the screen. That would limit its strain on your eyes while allowing you to still see clearly when your mouse is moved quickly.
Great review Mr. Tim. I can't wait for an OLED w/3440x1440 resolution that has a solid BFI mode. That'd be my holy grail. That should have the absolute best motion clarity. I'll deal with lower brightness for just ultra smooth motion clarity.
just purchased the refreshed version of the 👽 QD-OLED , super excited
I got this monitor Tuesday it’s amazing the colors are incredible just waiting on that firmware!
Nice move on making a new separate channel i love it, I hope in the future we see a review of the new Alienware AW2723DF.
Could you please test the KTC M27T20, which is kinda the same 27" monitor with VA panel instead of IPS. A comparison would be great!
This
Awesome as usual Monitor Unboxed. .. hardware unboxed..
Quick question, I might change to this... Does it work with a pS5?
This is a really great monitor with really deep blacks, bright, great colors, quite good HDR... it's just really annoying that it sometimes goes completely black when you switch to or from HDR (the windows setting). 5 months since last update, hope they do one more to fix the black screen issue and its a solid monitor that i would highly recommend, it's the only issue i've ran into (after 2 days).
Any more issues by now? :D
@@Dasqal for me the latet FW pretty much fixed everything.
Huh?! How did I miss that you have a new channel? Never subscribed that fast in my life! 🚀
More than VRR, the blue tint in HDR is a dealbreaker for me
Yeah, this monitor would be a buy if they manage to fix those issues. They did say VRR and white balance control in HDR is their priority, so hopefully, this really does get fixed.
HDR is absolutely pointless in a gaming monitor. 99% of the time it looks even worse even on an OLED.
@@ronniekregar3482 That's... just simply not true at all. What makes you say that?
@@Hobbles_ not in a gaming monitor man. Maybe there's one or two no name games that nobody plays where it might look good, but everything else it always looks worse. Even Doom....ehh. I have 2 OLEDS, I have yet to see anything other than maybe a few movies that looks good in HDR. It's probably the single dumbest reason to make a buying decision for a gaming monitor.
@@ronniekregar3482 That's false. I also have two oleds. Can confirm that even autohdr is an improvement.
Having just bought an HDR QLED TV for use with my media PC, I can attest to how much better games and media content look in HDR. Colours just pop and the blackest blacks make it a great upgrade from a standard 4k image. Also, not having the worry of "burn in" associated with OLED gives great peace of mind.
If their promise to have HDR work with VRR works and works well, it will likely be my next monitor.
It's fixed now
@@monke5198 Does it work well?
Thanks Tim, another great review! will all monitor videos be uploaded to this channel from now on, apart from “best **** monitor” roundup videos that will go on HUB?
After the reviews have started trickling in I'm glad I picked up my Dell 1440p 165hz to get me by until HDR monitors get better/more affordable. I'm hoping this product will put pressure on the market and bring this tech and affordability to the 1440p 27 and 34 market in the near future. If the Coolermaster updates do pan out and fixes the VRR/HDR problems great! I may buy one and just use my Dell as a second monitor. Otherwise it looks like for this refresh rate you are better off sticking with the sub $300 monitors or for similar money jumping to 240hz.
I believe we have the same monitor if you referring to Dell S2721DGF and for me it was the best purchase ever made and i am buying monitors and pc part's from crt only when games had cga and vga graphics maximum :)
@@leonidasdestoleo2761 S2721DGF gang, pack it in bois
@@uncleurda8101I’ve the Dell S2722GDM and I can say it’s much. Erred than the 21DGF. That monitor is head to head with odyssey G7 if not even a slight bit better
Thanks for the review! a 1440p monitor is on my wish list for my next upgrade to my office
There are multiple chinese-branded mini-LED monitors out there. The most common are the ones with around 380~ dimming zones. You can get them in either 4k or 1440p
Yeah but those are not enough zones. You need at least 1000 zones to get an image that comes close to Oled. And even then, haloing occurs on small, bright objects with a dark background.
I’d love to see a display like this in 34 inch format for $600-$700.
the big deal breaker for me is that you have to turn off LD for SDR, the image will look washed out in SDR because 900:1 contrast ratio is too low
you don’t ~have~ to turn off local dimming, that’s just what Tim recommends
great analysis and review, cooler master GM27-CFX next please
Never had VRR so it's not a deal breaker to me, always played with high fps. If it comes after firmware update then it's a win.
Damnit, it was so close to being a perfect budget HDR monitor! The inability to adjust white balance in HDR combined with atrocious factory white balance in it was a deal breaker.
If this issue (and if VRR in HDR gets unlocked) gets resolved will you revisit this monitor?
"Welcome back to Mars is unboxed" says the auto-caption on mouse-over. I sense a new shirt coming on! 😄
Tim, I got your intro...all black and white and grainy with some crazy dubstep track, way out in the Outback, you're boxing with a kangaroo and you knock him out with a monitor...you're welcome.
Thanks for another great review.
Hope cooler master can fix the firmware and bring in new competition to the marker.
There aren't many monitors that are doing power delivery right? For me a major selling point.
Tim your the goat.
Also could we get a video on the best top 5 monitors in 1440p 240hz from 350/500€ ?👍🏻
I wish I could find it in stock
Most content and games are still SDR + IPS contrast sucks = The bad SDR dimming is equally important to the HDR+VRR issue and also definitely a deal-breaker.
Nice work as always ! can we have a review about the alienware AW2723DF?
Great review as always. Other than that, can you also give some thoughts on Viewsonic VX2882-4KP 28” 150Hz? That monitor kinda piques my interest, since it got refresh rate at 4K at affordable price, at least in my region.
Seems like a perfect monitor for my needs. Great review as usual. Only thing remains - availability in the EU!
Although HDR doesn't work with VRR enabled (hopefully gets fixed with this "firmware update"), I don't think would be a deal breaker for me, as I would only use HDR for content consumption. £500 here in the UK is not a bad price for what the monitor offers, would love it even further if it was 240hz instead of the 165, but it's ok... UK prices are really bad right now, brexit, pandemic, now recession and the war in Ukraine, making things really difficult here, and no monitors on the market right now offers what this one does for this price... otherwise great review, thank you
it's first of it's kind suggest waiting for fixed up revision or something else, HDR is getting affordable sooner than I expected.
Wow, these monitors are so compelling. But unfortunately, it is not available in my country yet & even if it ever comes in stock it would be twice the price of the MSRP.
My dream monitor would be a 32" IPS 165Hz monitor with FALD HDR and VRR support. I've searched everywhere a monitor that meets all my requirements but there just seems not to be any yet. The closest thing to it would be the Gigabyte M32Q but it doesn't have local dimming.
I am a PlayStation fan and I'd like to use this "dream monitor" for the PS5, for gaming and cinema. I don't want 4k. I don't want 27" (too small).
I guess I'll just have to wait...
Almost the monitor I've been looking over two years for. I could probably settle for an IPS with a good FALD system but I would prefer VA , and ideally, VA with a G-Sync module since it seems like VA tends to struggle with adaptative sync below 60 FPS (which I've found is the time I need it the most). But I've been waiting since at least 2019 for a 1440p, VA, FALD and G-sync module monitor, and this is the closest I've seen to that so far.
Will you be making an updated list of monitors that you would recommend from a set of categories like budgets, resolutions, or whatever?
Whats the best way to watch 1080p video on 1440p screens? Since not really possible to do integer scaling? Just normal stretching scaling or black bars? Is there a quick way to switch from 1440p full screen and 1080p black bars?
just do normal stretching
Are you going to do a best of video when it's nearing Black Friday/Christmas?
Hi, please review the Xiaomi G pro 27 mini led
I, for one, am quite excited about someone finally producing a more affordable true-HDR-monitor, been waiting for that to happen for a LONG time now! Hopefully other manufacturers take note and try to compete.
Any chance you guys review the NZXT 27Q? It appears to be a very good 1440 display that is priced very competitively. Would love a review from people that actually know what they are talking about.
Shame it has some dealbreaking issues... I will revisit this one if they manage to release firmware updates to iron these kinks out but if they can't, I'd rather get something like the excellent Dell S2721DGFA instead of paying for broken features (HDR but no Adaptive sync? That means literally never using HDR so might very well get a monitor without it and pay less...)
The Dell you mentioned is absolute garbage compared to this monitor.
I dont think that dell has any proper HDR hardware, you need enough local dimming zones for it to look any good and from a very brief search on my part, I cant see anything about that on the Dell.
@@jai2628 "so might very well get a monitor without it and pay less"
he wasnt comparing HDR with the dell, he was saying he'd rather get one without if he cant use HDR anyway.
@@CutzMcOnions I think you mean to reply @jzo141
@@jzo1414 Surely you jest or you can't understand written words...
As i understand you just will play at 60hz=60fps when enabling HDR , so if you are not play competetive shooters often its a good choice anyway. Subject has great responce time at 60hz
Are you going to review the AW3423DWF? I've been eyeing this monitor and saw many positive reviews on it but I'm waiting for your review. Mainly want to know if they improved the processing lag from the non F. I thought it may have been the g-sync module causing it to be unusually high and was a big reason I decided to skip the non F version.
Would it be possible/legal for you to release the files needed for calibration for the srgb color gamut? I know it technically is different for every monitor but these tempest monitors appear to have all the same bad red channel compression
I think the firmware issues are fine, considering 2 months since this review this monitor isn't available for sale except for in select and specific countries.
I've been looking for a replacement for my 27" 1440p 144hz TN Panel for a while and this may be it!
I've purchased this model and it arrived today here in the UK with firmware 1.2 could you please make a guide for how to use this monitor please?
omg...what is that thumbnail man..i thought it's an ultra wide one
was so happy
i want an ultra wide 2k+ hdr monitor
that won't cost an arm and a leg...and a kidney
As I either program or game, but never watch media, on my monitors, a monitor that can't use HDR with VRR effectively doesn't have HDR :(
Any plans to review any future firmware changes?
(I don't know enough to know if such a firmware change could mess with other performance characteristics...)
It's fixed
I can't seem to find any info on when this is coming to Australia. Does anybody have an idea?
Dear Mub,
Do you plan on reviewing the msi MAG321QR soon?
Seems like the most economical 32 inch 1440p ips 165hz monitor.
Thanks
I just wish this monitor came with a decent remote control, like the BenQ Morbious range. With so many settings available, clunky around the back controls aren't quick and easy to switch between, and need a basic control interface.
are you going to do a recommended monitor for each size at 4k, 1440 ect. like last year before holiday shopping / cyber monday .. still looking for a 4k , 32in, kvm, usb c, ect. ect flat monitor, that is good for gaming, movies and productivity. lol..
Finally someone thought of low budget customers no need for super huge above 30" 4k, wish they make 25" or 24" versions.
CM did have 24" but it's not mini LED.
Low contrast ratio in SDR= garbage. People don't realize how important that is.
I cant find this in Canada at all.
Looks promising, but will have to wait and see how they address the issues.
pretty sure @9:25 its due to HDR not local dimming algorhythm since multiple sites like tftcentral show no increase in lag when using local dimming in SDR mode, but you said it was because of local dimming
It would be great if you could make another Video on the update!
Did you not find extreme color banding issues when OCing this monitor to 165 hz?
Best monitors of 2022 please!
When are you guys gonna review the ViewSonic 32″ XG321UG
Ever since I got a monitor that support variable frame time I've just kept it at that. Using a fixed refresh rate haven't even occurred to me in a long time. This makes me wonder why things like back light strobing still is exclusively available for fixed refresh rates even on most new monitors released today. These features could just as well not be there at all as far as I am concerned as I won't be disabling FreeSync just to enable something like that. To me the variable refresh rate means I no longer care much about what exact framerate I get in games as long as it's at least 60 Hz. The monitor will sync far below that but I try to make sure the framerate doesn't go below 90 Hz in average, and if it dipps to the 60 Hz range to often I will adjust the graphics settings to address that. But other than that I simply don't care much about the exact framerate.
When using a fixed framerate monitor I have to be a lot more careful with the graphics settings as any dip below the refresh rate will result in ugly stutter as I can't stand gaming at fixed refresh without VSync. Tearing just give me head ache, so VSync on is a necessity when using fixed frame rate. For some games I used to go as far as limiting games to run at half the refresh rate and turn on VSync. This lead to horrible frame rate but at least there were no stutter or tearing which was more important for me. These are reasons I won't switch FreeSync off just to enable things like Backlight Strobing or HDR.
Is gsync enabled in all games without any problems?
FINALLY A GOOD REVIEW FOR THIS
Hey, you make rock solid videos. Thank for that.
the wallpaper at minute 2:25, how can i find it ? looks nice :)
I really wish reviewers would stop encouraging manufacturers to spend unnecessary budget on monitor backs, encourage them to make plain flat cheap black or white plastic no one looks at the back of the monitors! Let them spend the budget on better screen tech or better OSD, better BFI, or just pass on the savings of unnecessary, wasteful back product design onto us with cheaper products. I mean yeha 500 is very cheap but it could have been 450 if it didn't have those wasteful and unsolicited lights on the back. Maybe 400 if the injection molding for the plastic was simpler and cheaper. Imagine if they the offered a SKU without a stand for 50 less again, that's 350 for a great monitor, that's mind-blowing.
Only thing that's justifiable on the back of a monitor is something like the Philips ambilight thing. Even so, just offering a separate kit for that only to those who want it is still best but I wouldn't mind paying extra for that. To my knowledge Philips holds patents on that so other manufacturers can't do a similar thing so yeah, just plain cheap plastic, no complicated designs, no expensive injection molding, no pointless lights that avoid you from having a true dark room for best content consumption. thank you! very much
Odyssey G6 review before black friday??
To be fair, you don't really need any adaptive sync or vrr on a 165hz monitor. It's not like you can notice any tearing when it refreshes so quickly. So it is not a deal breaker for sure.
Can you test the color banding at 165hz? I've noticed it's very noticeable over 144hz.
Iirc this panel is the same as the AOC varients which Tim has mentioned in other vids but not reviewed. This is down to lack of genuine availablity, though it is generally available in Europe (incl UK) as of 18 Nov 2022. Reviews of this monitor and the 4K varient mention the exact same issue as Tim has laid out for the Cooler Master varients with those reviews hoping that Cooler Master would be able to solve the firmware issue preventing HDR and VRR working together.
Let's hope that the price tag itself is enough to shake up the market as currently AOC seem to be dragging their feet with the firmware issues and leaving for third parties to resolve isn't a good look.
What is the asus 4k 165 hz monitor suitable for gaming ?
Local dimming is disabled in SDR mode?
Does this mean that when browsing the web, doing windows stuff, watching youtube... i wont have the nice blacklevels?
How do i get HDR (or lets call it "good colors and black levels" in windows / chrome / youtube????
What’s the best option at this price point for 1440p high refresh rate in terms of performance and features? 14ms delay in HDR would make that pretty prohibitive in any kind of shooter games, what types of HDR content would this monitor be good for?
Gigabyte m27qx is best 1440p at $400-600 depending on country. 240Hz 1440p monitor.
Can we get a review for the MSI OPTIX G273QF 27" ? :D
Going to update your review now that the firmware has been updated?