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2:49 'videogames have always been political' - oh yes, when I was a kid playing Galaxians, Tron, Outrun, Star Wars, Robotron, Darius, Mr Do, and then Elite, Sentinel, Falcon, Wipeout, Tomb Raider, Counterstrike, Civilization, etc etc. all I was thinking was GOD THIS IS POLITICAL.
Bruh, Pong was sooo pooooolitical XD
I thought you were supposed to pick a political ideology in civ
SJW's ruined crash bandicoot
There were games in the 80s that were influenced by cold war but I dont remember any major titles that were pushing any propaganda
Tuck Chodd what has proud boys got to do with this?
These 'journalists' are like kids who kick a dog and then cry about getting bitten.
Do you really believe that you are so uneducated
@@Garrett-po6ke Ok, Garrett.
NoticeMeTompai yes
@@Garrett-po6ke Sure, Garrett.
@@Garrett-po6ke some sad degenerate here reads what the 'journalists' shit post
Keep politics out of gaming. Pure and simple. Video games bring joy, politics bring sadness...
M.A.D.PandaGaming Truer words have never been said
As long as stories have morals in them there will always be politics involved.
So that's kind of impossible.
@@jekblom123 As long as stories have morals, they will all have philosophy sure, but to say that all games with morals contain politics is a bit of a stretch of the definition of "politics"
@@hdsporty609 i was going to say this but assumed it wasn't worth the debate. Thanks for biting the bullet on that ones
It is, though. If you write a story involving a group of "bad guys" you can directly attribute that to politics.
"Games have always been political", eh? What's the political message behind Tetris?
or pong
Maybe no discrimination against the shapes because they might feel like they don't fit in
@@Fighterff9 Zombie rights, its footage of the everyday injustices zombies face
@@Fighterff9 Ha ha ha! Sorry... You are wrong.
Minecraft had no genders. Now it has. It was ""Fixed""... (Microsofts doing) Like just the fact the Minecraft creator made a non gender game with the default character called "Steve" is enuf to call it political messaging. And also the community around Minecraft has turned into fantasy rape videos against womens here on CZcams thanks to MC animation programs.... Just how easy it is to talk about ""problems in society"" with that awful and down right creepy horny theenage boy fantasy shite... Urrgg.... Edgy cool boys...... Fuck the internet
Not to be that dude but there were actually some really interesting Russia v America politics going on around Tetris. I highly recommend Game Historian's video about it czcams.com/video/_fQtxKmgJC8/video.html
They're correct. Since the days of pong it was right vs left.
nice
No, idiot. since the days of Mortal Kombat or earlier. Many politicians wanted to ban these games and the developers and politicians fought to have these games to actually be widely available. A lot of people here weren't alive and are now being influenced by a madlad proudboy who hasnt got fucked in 10 years.
But wait, the npc was on the right?
Underappreciated comment
@@tuckchodd9299 you salty or something mate
SJW'S hates winners. You and exclusively games are winning hard
winners > whiners
I can't wait till it goes online! These sites are dead and soon this one and more like it will replace it. We're tired of the politics, toxicity, pandering, and bullshit. Make it like it always was when I was a child, an unbiased view on games!
SJWs are Narcissistic losers who think that attacking people is justice. It's a sick delusion of feeling good about doing something to a bad person and ever so looking for the next feeling of power. Except they look for bad, even where it doesn't exist.
@theplayboymaster Once upon a time it was big noses and lots of money. Shows who really is a racist. lol
I believe you got that one wrong, SJW's don't hate winners, they just hate not being the winner.
The intersectionality of Crazy Taxi was far ahead of its time.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah!
It should really have been called "Taxi with Mental Health Issues" though, because calling it crazy is insensitive. Or maybe call it "Triggered Taxi".
Explain how Pac Man was political. I can wait.
It was literally designed as a girl's game based on eating because the game developer said he wanted to make a girl's game and thought that's what girls like. But no, there's no reason to discuss weird or historic design decisions which were influenced by culture and politics, that would just ruin everything by making my brain do thinky things about stuff I like, and thinking only leads to double-plus un-happy feelings.
@@sparrowthesissy2186 He never said it was aimed toward females because he thought they liked eating...(I just read the wiki), but even IF that were true, that doesn't make the game it self political. Nothing about playing Pac Man OR Ms Pac Man, throws politics in your face. The reasoning behind developing the game was not the question. Gamers are sick of politics being blatantly shoved inside the game world, not of why the game was made or the political views of the developer.
"Iwatani attempted to appeal to a wider audience-beyond the typical demographics of young boys and teenagers. His intention was to attract girls to arcades because he found there were very few games that were played by women at the time.[48] This led him to add elements of a maze, as well as cute ghost-like enemy characters. Eating to gain power, Iwatani has said, was a concept he borrowed from Popeye."
What about pong or asteroids, or mortal kombat?!?!
Sparrow Elle Trying to bring more people into arcades to play your game is not politics. It’s marketing.
Pac Man was a game obviously about Colonialism. (which as we all know is a white people thing)
Pac Man moves from region to region exploiting and consuming their resources unless opposed and stopped by the local minorities, aka the ghosts. The ghosts obviously represent brave freedom fighters in glorious and righteous opposition to the evil colonials.
The game was a electronic protest against the exploitative practices of the USA and Western European countries and most of the audience was simply to ignorant and arrogant to realize it was jab directed at them and their abusive ways, Pac Man was not the good guy.
There, I explained it to you. Thanks for waiting.
Pissed off games journalists make me happy.
Pissed off worms make me happy in general
What ever pisses them off make us happy
That really says it all. What else is there to say? Attention whores getting off on trolling.
Than you'll be real happy when the quartering becomes one of em
@@brianleal87 oh as I've been keeping track of this I'm almost positive it'll happen. I think it's unavoidable
"At least I wasn't robbed by a woman" ....
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people. If I get robbed I'm going to be just as bloodthirsty enraged no matter the gender of the person who robbed me.
The issue is that's the view they have: the idea that the typical gamer is often times sexist, homophobic, racist, or things along those lines. It's sad but it is what it is...
I bet the guy that wrote that beats his wife LUL
Scientist Walter no I bet his wife beats him
I said I'd get mad, I didn't say I'd take the law into my own hands. But, the point (you are all deliberately missing) is that I'd get equally mad no matter who robbed me. I'm not going to be happier that I wasn't robbed by a woman. Thieves are thieves, don't care the gender, don't care the excuse.
I remember the political agenda pushing Frogger integrated in me as a child
You are correct. These people ARE sad.
I feel like I’ve heard this “its the customer’s fault” statement a lot of times already....And I’m pretty sure they didn’t end that well
*cough* EA *cough* Guild wars developer
20 years ago in Everquest 1 it was a meme already that players would report bugs on the forum ... and the moderators would answer with "everything is working as intended" ...
Yeah the same thing happened with Linus Tech Tips when people were buying the Nvidia GTX 1030
You`re holding it wrong
@8-Bit Raptor
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I always forget what the political message of Pacman was.
It's obviously a deep take on capitalism
Ghost man bad!
It's a take on obesity
Course we know Tetris was made by the Commies to sabotage Western industry through its simple yet highly addictive gameplay. That's why I refuse to play it to this day. The history of video games is nothing but a cultural-political war strewn with the corpses of titles that just weren't ideological enough to make it.
I believe pac man was a take on world hunger and racism.
What??? Only ~657 butthurt "'gaming' journalists'" who are butthurt that some "nobody" on CZcams is creating content that they are too lazy and incompetent to create on their own?
Say it ain't so! *to self* hate that's statement from Game Informer. Such backwards thinking and tone deafening.
The energy behind this project is amazing, especially how much support it gets. Wish you all the best.
I forgot what political message behind my 8 bit super car racing game was.
U needed to finish first to win. Evils of meritocracy. "Everything is political, every politics is identity politics" boils down to hatred of competence. It's much easier to imagine that competence can't be acquired and mankind is just playing power games starting with the language itself
True, but you should still vote. Everyone should vote.
And remember to vote with your wallets with games.
Cars use petroleum, and are an invention of a white male, so it's all about Western industrial capitalism oppressing naturalist minority cultures
Devansh Das
It was about the oil industry paying the US to put oil inside of cars to run over the American Woman, while the Opressed Black man Watches
Speeding is immoral. Duh. lol
“Politics have always been in everything”
This is the biggest lie ever told in our age.
Trust me, literature was always political. Examples: The Clouds made fun of Socrates, Robin Hood was anti-Prince John/pro King Richard, Seneca basically was showing how people should not behave and Dante's Inferno is full of cardinals and popes from his time.
Hell, Shakespere bashed and praised political figures all the time.
I think you might be confused about what political means, ESRB is a good example how everything in video games has a political based platform. and a recent example is many countries looking at lootbox lawfulness. video games arent the wild west, the government has a heavy hand no matter what country youre in.
And my point/examples went right over your head.
@@sanrock08I didnt reply to you.
@@acedianihil8208 I thought you did.
Art(and Video Games, because they are art imo) isn't always political. It always conveys a message. What that message is is open for discussion. Maybe some lecture about equality, importance of friendship, blablabla or (in that these people are right) about contemporary political issues. But to assume everything anyone makes is (or has to be) bound to some political agenda is, again, in my opinion, straight up wrong.
And for my joke: Don't you all remember Animal Crossing showing a middle finger to capitalism, because as you pay off your debt you're being oppressed and abused by Tom Nook.
And that this circumstance can be interpreted into economic inequalities in the world. It could be about showing you the value of things, to not take these things for granted and to be thankful to the person helping you by giving them what's due(you don't even have to pay your debt and if you do there's no interest lol)....AHHH,FUCK THAT! CAPITALISM JUST SUCKS!!!!!!!
(And yes, there is a Kotaku article about it)
Equality is bullshit. It's literally impossible. The sooner we understand that, the better.
Like how Pong, all early sports games, Frogger, Pac-Man, all Mario games, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc. were made to convey messages, amirite..?
No, that's completely wrong. Sometimes people create things, ranging from incredibly simple to as complex as a video game, without injecting messages into their creations, and that's okay. Thinking in absolutes is generally not a good idea, as proven yet again here.
Thanks Jeremy and everyone one else working on this. It means a ton. I fully support this.
*I HATE the political message that **_TETRIS_** pushes!! SMFH!!!*
😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Centipede is even worse then Tetris
"I am the man who arranges the blocks...."
(youtube video hWTFG3J1CP8)
Tetris thinks it can tell you where to put the blocks, well, what if I want to put the blocks up my ass you homophobes!? - Polygon games journalist
Tetris is the worst commie propaganda
If you think *TETRIS* is bad you should see *ASTEROIDS*
"Politics have always been in gaming" - They're right, i always remember those hard-hitting political messages that were forced down my throat when i played Ocarina of Time, and Star Fox 64, and Halo 3, and God of War, and Doom, and Half Life, and Dark Souls, and XCOM, and... oh... oh wait.
Well in Star Fox 64 you actually play as a furry, not a fox. The message in that is that furries should be openly accepted and promoted.
In XCOM, every race and gender can fight together and we are powerful as a team. Clearly they want to remove borders.
In ocarina of time there was that one super secret temple in which link expresses his homosexuality and sucks mad dick. The message was that gay people could save the world as well as straight people.
So with that in mind, I’d say a fair few games were, indeed, politically motivated. If anyone knows of anymore they should comment it in this thread
There's also the distinction of nuance, games that do have some kind of political or historical theme have a wide perspective and allow the player to come to their own conclusions, and not to preach a specific message at them. Spec Ops the Line for example.
What im saying is there's a difference between political themes and just politics/propaganda.
politics has always been sticking its nose into gaming. It has never been by the desire of game developers or gamers.
I'm excited
Don't you guys know Ocarina of time was a gay coming of age story?
www.destructoid.com/is-ocarina-of-time-a-gay-coming-of-age-story--506492.phtml
I don't think analyzing a game in a cultural or political way is necessarily bad. However, politics at the moment are far off in the deep end of crazy. Too many voices are screaming sexism, micro aggression, and cultural appropriation without putting actual thought into their accusations. I am happy that this channel is promoting its own way to view gaming, but keep in mind that the medium is a beautiful way to experience multiple facets of life.
I'm so glad I recently found this channel. Watching your videos is therapeutic. Finally, an articulate voice to everything I've been feeling for years!!!
"Video games have always been political."
Ah, yes, how could I ever forget the deep-rooted moral questions behind _Pong_ or the subtle socio-political commentary of _Pac-Man?_ The depth of interaction between the Pac-Family and the Ghosts was truly spectacular, and the questions raised about the domestic situation between Pac-Man and Mrs. Pac-Man was unforgettable, surely.
Say, this tea tastes a little funny... and my biscuit, too... Oh my, is that a unicorn? Majestic creature. Why are my hands glass?
427Arbok
And look at smash brothers, promoting a mass genocide of all kinds of gaming mascots, such bads, and not only that, there’s a “god” that kills every and like religion is bad or something and gods should deeeeeffffinitely not be bad or whatever bullshit SJWs and Leftists say
Ghost Unlives Matter!
Haha, was about to write the same. You put it better in words than I could do ;)
Let me introduce you to the politics of "Boogerman".
...on second thought, maybe don't let me do that.
And the deep meaning of space invaders.
"Video games have always been political"
"Comics have always been political."
This has become the excuse to overly-politicize hobbies. In the past, politics in these hobbies were subtle and bipartisan. They let people make up their own mind about any given topic. They didn't beat them over the head by over-analyzing it with a left or right leaning narrative. They didn't speak down to their audience. They didn't try to indoctrinate their audience. They didn't sensationalize topics for click-bait. This is how Polygon, Kotaku, and the comics industry handles politics. Overly-politicizing hobbies is actually dividing and alienating the community.
Fishing, hunting and mudding have always been political.
Giving Birth has always been political
Solid snake fighting memes is political
Not always, mind you. You may not remember it, but some of the older games have some pretty heavy and nasty politics behind them, with some very hamfisted politics shoved in your face.
I mean.. we still have tons of "Bad Nazi" games released. The difference is not even the subtlety, it's just how it's presented. Back then, it was always so over the top that it became almost comical.
My biggest issue with the type of stuff today, is that they can't even do it right. If they have to try to push whatever agenda they have, at least take the good real life examples, instead of making up ones.
You say you want to play just games but games are created with the creative process- a process that is a direct reflection of a multitude of factors from gameplay, story, graphics etc. Are you saying you want people to SAY less that there should be trans/poc/female characters and simply just do it? Games are full of the politics that encompass our world by which games are inspired by. Symbolically and literally games are political because our world is always political. If you disagree with the politics that's great- the entire point of banter and debate but saying you never want to see the reflection of the real struggles and stories of the world having an influence on games is unrealistic, thoughtless and lazy. Let's be real, saying you don't want politics in games is your unconscious resistance to inclusivity. Politicians saying that violent video games make violent people- now THOSE are the BS politics you guys should be going after.
Would love an Exclusively Games CZcams channel in the future covering gaming news, reviews, etc. Just a Jeremy gaming channel with your staff would be something I'd be very interested in! Thanks for this Jeremy!
Ah yes, I remember PacMan really getting the message out about Communism.
Gamers: "I just want to play muh vidya without politics"
Game Journos: "I can't let you do that, Star Fox"
Roger Theil they don't deserve to quote wolf daddy
GAME DEVELOPERS : If you dont like it, dont buy it you uneducated fuck. :)
I think Games with OVERTLY political themes are contextually part of the game, and are fine to discuss, as a point of story and plot points. Such as the power dynamics of the factions in Final Fantasy Tactics. If it's part of the game, that's fine, but using a discussion about the game to talk about things outside of it would be politics.
Correct... Or how I see it as correct, anyway....
It's fine to talk about how you see what is factually, actually, psychically present in the game already. It's OK to say you feel something in the game is right or wrong, or could have been better. It's definitely acceptable to discuss how characters and stories within the game go.
But as soon as your discussion turns to real world politics, or making a game more , it's become political discussion and not about the game.
Voitan's post needs more upvotes because it explains the subtle differences between politics legitimately used as a plot device, and politics in games being for real world political outcomes.
I think Battletech, both table top and computer games exemplify this as well. Not the new ones, rather the originals from the 1980's. It was always strange this nihilistic return to Feudalism.
I agree
Exactly my thoughts, and Spec Ops: The Line springs to mind. A classic anti-war game about US military involvement in the Middle East... An admittedly heavy political topic, but the thing is YOU KNOW thats what the game is about going into it! And it doesnt force a message, but uses good storytelling to make its point. Is it a liberal political point? Ya sure, but just like any good anti-war movie its wrapped organically into the game through natural storytelling and characters. These dense fuckers just dont get subtlety and context.
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The point of games, is to escape our sad realities. If a game is political, then its not really an escape. And the people that are searching for for that crap, are not gamers. They may play games, but they’re playing them for the wrong reasons. Thus, they’re not gamers.
Amen to that.
I would agree ONE of the points to games is escapism, but this is among a variety of other points. Imho.
Did that magazine seriously imply that every thing about gaming is political?!
Have no idea how people like that keep getting work.
Those Tetris blocks represent the patriarchy, dontcha know
and u have to stay away from minecraft its full of alt-rightes
Now it makes sense.
There was no implication. It was written outright, in plain english. That particular magazine, or more likely "media group" has likely had meetings about there spot in the "media market" and "brand of journalism". One must read everything with a grain of salt and skepticism nowdays.
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Please reach out! Even if it's not to develop a working and professional relationship between our 2 projects, it would be an opportunity to maybe to bounce ideas about the solution architecture, design and development process, etc. I'd love to help from a consulting role (no pay).
Remember when playing Dark Souls how you had to link the first flame because of a clearly Marxist ideology, we even got sent to the gulags
And that's exactly how i always picture these people , they are able to interpret things in games that aren't even there. Best example is the way they saw Kingdom come. In this case it was the lack of something that made the creators clearly racists.
Gulag of the First Sin was awsome
Nice one. Kinda sad this youtuber is clickbaiting about clickbaiters who are clickbaiting about "pop" games.
Games have always been political, huh? Strange how politics don't show up in my Game Informer magazines from the early 2000s.
perochialjoe you can not thank Chris Kluwe for this in Game Informer’s case.
perochialjoe oh but you agreed with the message that’s why you didn’t notice -_-
Game informer is a dead company , let’s move on from their bullshit .
hmmm, how short of a memory we have... remember politicians demonizing games, or did you want to write that out of history too?
Congratulations brother!!! And I wish you the best of luck. We needed this!!
your really going places these days thank u for starting this movement, big ups to u and i hope you prosper more in the future.
triggering overly politically correct hackjobs. I LOVE it
"Video games have always been political"... Really?! Mario was political? Zelda was political? Video Games have only been "political" since the rise of SJWs in the industry. That's just a fact. Sure, there were a few games that actually had political content in them, but they weren't agendas; it was just a narrative to give a reason why players did "X" or "Y". "If you haven't noticed before, then you agreed with the message". What message? that stomping on turtles is cool?! That eating mushrooms makes you bigger?
I wanna know the politics of Pong and Tetris
I want the Know the political message for centipede and Donky Kong (original version)
@@darkshadowsaver Well, Donkey Kongs is animal abuse. That actually is kind of political.
wait really? do you remember mortal kombat and the creation of the esrb and similar ratings for other countries? people have been crying about what the children see since the beginning of time. christians burned harry potter books. DnD paper and pen promoted satanism. 'SJW' is just the newest form of something thats been going on forever
SJW think nothing existed before they were born. Also, nothing existed before they started spending money. So, yes, they are correct. The past few years of games have always been political.
This is truly amazing! I think as time goes on, and the site grows, I think it will become THE gaming journalist site.
I cannot wait. A place where I can read about games, and see games reviewed on their own merits? This is a long time coming!
right. I always found that Doom's and Super Mario's political messages were extremely powerful.
Goomba lives matter.
The developers fought hard to actually have those games on the market in the US. Poloticians had many many debates on allowing them to be sold and widely availible. Dumb c*nts
Yeah, I've been enjoying Ultimate Smash Bros quite a bit recently. Some powerful politically charged metaphors to the current state of the world in there. If you don't get the powerful statement an obese alligator king, a space furry, a mushroom people's princess, and a lightning hamster battling each other makes about Donald Trump... well you aren't a games journalist :P
lefr33man A youtuber i watched a while ago said that Doom eternal is about immigrants...WTF?!
@@tuckchodd9299 You talking about the 80s panic or the 90s jack whatever GTA gonna make your kid a killer. What I remember was gaming new site was for people playing what they want. Now do you think we have that sort of gaming news site cause I don't, if it offends censor and demonized rather then meh it's not for me.
Video games have NOT always been political. If you think that, it’s because everything is political to you, because you’re nuts.
But these days people are making games political. Like disabled women as soldiers in WWII games.
they compare politics in like mass effect or fucking the witcher to actual real life politics, which is NOT the point. its a fictional world in both games, you dont make choices for political reasons in those games you support one or the other if you agree with them, and its usually a 'good outcome bad outcome' kind of thing. we all know these idiots dont even play the games they write about
Yeah , i really wan't to know what they thought when they wrote this. There might have been always games that had political undertones but it was always a smaller number of games, even now mostly EA and Bioware try to force shit like this into games. Or Maybe i just don't see the deep political messeges in games like Mario, God of War , Zelda , Nier Automata and Smash bros.
Please tell me what politics are included in Pong, Pac-man and the like ... so ridicule. Continue your good work my friend.
Ya lol when I was playing Mario 3 or contra growing up, I didn't even know what a Bill Clinton was. Tax rates and social issues were the last thing on my mind -- I just wanted the spread shot before the 3D levels lol
I 100% believe in this website. I haven't read game reviews in roughly a decade, and haven't taken most CZcams videos seriously.
i like this. i was indecisive about your content before, but i really think it is a good move to bring game journalism back in the right direction again.
To GameInformer: first off, the United States is not a democracy, it's a constitutional Republic.
Second of all, games haven't been apart of politics until recent years. Games are supposed to be non-political area and were until recently, Developers like EA and others have been bringing politics into gaming
C-c-c-combo breaker! Attack hit for 999 damage. It's super effective! Idiotinformer has fainted.
The US has democratically elected representatives, it is a democracy. It is not a direct democracy, as its a representative republic, a form of democracy, which most major powers in the modern world are (the USSR also used this form of democracy, it tends to be the best for managing large scale things). The whole "the US is not a democracy" meme was started over liberals who never paid attention in civics class arguing we should have a simple majority rule system, expressing confusion when it was not actually that way in practice. Claiming its not a democracy in the generalized sense of the term is as wrong as them claiming its a direct democracy, it is a democracy as it has elected representation.
@@sidraket so it's basically both a constitutional Republic and a democracy
@@s0ulsurviv0r74 Democracy is a broad term that just describes a system where the ultimate authority resists with the people. It can take many forms from elected dictators who hold all the power for a while to direct votes on every single matter. All have their own problems. The US is a republic because it is composed of member states all of which have their own independent governments. The US' system tries to retain state authority while also having a form of collective authority as well. This is best seen in the two houses of congress (originally congressional representatives were elected by people directly, but senators were appointed by the state legislatures, this was later changed so that both are a result of direct state elections), or the fact that to amend the constitution you need a 3/4th majority of state legislatures to approve it (and they can do this even circumventing the entire federal government if desired). Ultimate authority is still in the hands of the member states. It is a democracy because both the states and the federal government must be ran by elected representatives of the people, it is a requirement to join that a state by ran in such a way.
sidraket - That isn’t how it works. We are not and have never been a democracy.
It's been like 3-4 years since the whole Gamergate drama broke out and they just keep doubling down on their idiocy and attacking their own target audience. What part of "don't shit in your own backyard" don't these "journalists" understand?
Paul Richards considering they only know how to talk to people with glorified stockholm syndrome...every part of it.
These are the people that couldn't work in a real news agency. I doubt video game journalist was anything many of the "Big Publication" reviewers ever wanted to do.
Because that's how they got in power in the first place.
I've explained this to other people - SJWs in both the gaming industry and games 'journalism' use this tactic BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL.
In the beginning it was not particularly political. But then the proto-SJWs joined games companies and journalism companies. Once they were there, they started screaming that there wasn't enough 'diversity', that their opinions were being 'suppressed'. Most people ignored them because it wasn't worth the fight, but then they started hiring exclusively other SJWs, and demanding positions of leadership. Once they had control, the people that objected were marginalized or fired. Finally the organization is full SJW.
They're trying to use this tactic on the gaming community as a whole.
Make no mistake. Games journalists DO NOT CARE what you think. Everything they write is directed at games companies to try and force SJW takeovers. They don't care about the actual gamers. When they've successfully infected every games company they will produce exclusively SJW games and you play them or shut up.
Fortunately for us its not working because indie developers and small companies making games is easier than ever before. Games like Dead Cells can compete with AAA game studios.
That's why they're having public meltdowns. Because their tactics aren't working and they know it.
White-knight Men supporting Streamer thots thinking someday they will get to "touch it"(Amouranth).
I'm pretty sure these hacks actually do shit in their own backyard, like a dog. We see for ourselves they enjoy shitting on our lawns, our games.
this brings hope back to the community, i thought there was never going to be an end to the constant bickering on twitter between fans and journalists. what you are doing is going to be a revolutionary step in the right direction, and i thank you for this.
First video of yours I watched, the video caught my eye. Really cool concept and I can’t wait for it to be completed!
Games have always been political, I vividly remember chicken invaders cover the illegal immigration of space chickens to other planets...
lol that's an actual illegal alien then eh!?
@SeasonedGamer they were spaceships shooting lasers
@SeasonedGamer sadly no
"video games have always been political." I wonder what the political message that pong was trying to push/promote.
113stDFX9900 I'm sure they'll figure out some BS
On the anime side i've recently seen alot of comments saying cowboy bebop was progressive in terms of gender
Pong is about the bourgeoise using the poor worker as a play ball.
It's obviously a statement about the nature of political power and how it can never be truly won. When one side captures a majority of the political power it will soon be transferred, if only momentarily, across the isle... the pendulum can only swing so far in one direction. I think it emphasizes the need for disagreement and civil discourse, not demonizing those of differing opinions and really looking outside one's self and examining ideas on base principles not personal expediency. I feel the lessons of Pong are more important than ever in 2018.
Pong.
Only white people with white rackets can kiss white balls.
Been subbed to this channel for a few weeks now and it’s nice to see such strong creator/consumer relationship. Best of luck with development and Happy holidays
I just found out about this project today. So sad I’m too late to be a backer. Thx so much to all who contributed and to The Quartering for getting it started.
Super excited to have a place to talk about games and only games.
Keep up the good work man.
Just cause anita stole their money they think this is a scam too lol
@@nilsingvar7319 Literally everything they accuse others of doing describes themselves perfectly. Every single thing.
Zoë Quinn: hold my beer
@@nilsingvar7319 agreed
I never knew how much I hated gaming journalists until this year. Especially after the Diablo Immortal incident.
They are getting an education too.
For me it started with the cuphead tutorial incident
They expose themselves when they defend the indefensible, and promote inadequate products and candidates. That's when the transparency shows, and if you're lucky enough to see through it, it makes you wary of all news/journalists going forward. The reverse process happens with integrity, when you see people take a stand against the indefensible, and condemn the inadequate or terrible.
This is the first time I'm hearing about this. And I'm so glad this is happening, keep it up and thank you.
This. It's so satisfying to see people who have a sense of passion when playing or generally enjoying video games of all kinds. I hope the website is working out for you and that it will succeed and help change the perspective of triple A video game companys of what games the customer really wants and that it will make video games better and more alive in these future hard times. You have my support. Subscribed.
Video games have always been political? really gameinformer?
What politics were crash bandicoot, doom, halo, duke nukem, mario, zelda, donkey kong, final fantasy, tales, resident evil, age of empires, banjo kazooie, goldeneye, pokemon, warcraft, diablo, half-life, quake, unreal, or ANY OTHER MAJOR GAME from the 90s and 00's trying to push? Who were they telling you to go out and vote for?
Because i lived through the golden era of video games, and i sure don't remember politics being a major part of games journalism, development or advertising back then. Almost seems like this is a nonsense statement, and this is a modern trend driven by the increasing zealotry and disconnection of the political far left and the fact that all these game devs and games journalists are inundated with the culture of self righeous politically correct navel-gazing that permeates the areas that they operate out of.
In other words, bullshit.
Absolutely. Political ideology was always either incidentally incorporated into games' worlds as a kind of observation or commentary, or more likely were omitted entirely. A lot of examples people are giving are purely gameplay-focused: Mario, racing games, etc. But Final Fantasy is a good example, honestly. They were always more concerned with character-driven stories than they were political commentary.
Even FFVII, which has AVALANCHE acting as a terrorist group for instance, still makes you pause to consider the impact that they had in Midgar also led to the deaths of a lot of innocent people, and even if they were doing it for good intentions were still accountable for their share of destruction. Or, hell, FF Tactics dealt a lot with conspiracy, political schemes and backstabbing, but these were within the context of the game world in a medieval scenario. It raised more philosophical and ethical questions than it acted as a thinly veiled vehicle for directly disseminating IRL ideology. Even something like Vagrant Story didn't have a political message that I can think of.
I actually don't mind politics in games within the context of what a game was trying to accomplish, or when it's not the focal point and is only really applicable to its own inhabitants. But a lot of modern scenario writers are talentless hacks who put politics first and story second. Fewer people are capable of subtle nuance or seeing the merits of different points of view, and it shows, which I think is a massive shame.
I agree though I wouldn't mind politics in games if they actually make sense in the context of the game and have a a goodf reason for it in the lore UNLIKE bf5 for example
remember sonic was really a Nazi
Metal Gear was pretty big in the 00's and it has a lot of political themes in it. Some guy above made a pretty completing case for half life being political but I haven't played to say with certainty.Your broad over generalization is a bit... how can we say politely... dumb
NecroVane crash bandicoot! Lol
Good. Just contributed.
Sup man I love your channel dude!
bahhhh baaahhhh... sheep herd mentality detected.
@@tuckchodd9299
Aha! You got me😁
Tuck Chodd haha
The Amazing Lucas!!! Glad to see you here!!
I found your channel not that long ago and I’ve started binge watching you, I love how you talk about stuff and you do 👍🏻
This is the best initiative I've seen in the gaming journalism space in a long time. This will be great. I hope you succeed for all of our sakes.
Last time history seen so much salt was when Romans defeated Carthage
Ohhhh thats a good one ;)
MichusubPl Ooh. _Ooh._ *_OOH._*
And destroyed Corinth the very same year, conquering the entire Greece.
Putting on nerd glasses intensified...
Carthago delenda est
Hooray! I can't wait to replace IGN and gamespot with Exclusively Games on my fav's bar :)
Question: Do you have any plans in the future to expand into TV/movies/anime/other entertainment reviewing and discussion? Thank you so much for championing this effort to remove politics from gaming journalism!
once we conquer games. :)
Why were they on your faves bar to begin with?
@@mistermetokurarchives Gotta get information somewhere. Even if they suck it's the baseline information.
@@TheQuartering thank you for creating a safespace for the riecht wing gamerz
@@TheQuartering FIRST GAMES...…..THEN...…...THE WORLD
I'm glad you're doing this. Keep up the good work. I will subscribe to Exclusively Games!
I'm glad you're giving the good ones a place to publish their honest, unbiased criticism and praise of games! Thanks Jeremy and all you crowdfunders! I wish I could kick down but I'm totally strapped right now. I'll have to PayPal you when I can.
Ps - I got the best account name on the forum: Link.
"Videogames have always been political"
Does that include Pong and Tetris?
Ronald Macdonald I’ll leave you with this nonsense, lol.
www.reaxxion.com/3550/ben-kuchera-thinks-tetris-brainwashed-you-with-soviet-propaganda
Of course
Pong. Left vs right!? Come on... dont tell me you dont see it.
The only thing about tetris that was truly political was how Russian government wanted to own it becuase it was made on goverment computers at the time.
@@mrshmuga9 only connection I can see there is just the Tetris theme which originated from russia
Games are not political unless they are designed to be specifically. It doesn't matter how complicated the plot is, or how new it is. Games have their own worlds with different people, places, rules, and history. In games, it is possible to create situations that cannot happen in real life. Games are fiction, they do not cause violence, and they will not change real-world politics. They are an escape from our world, a useful source of entertainment. Thinking games are always political in the real world is to blur the line between fantasy and reality. If you can't keep fantasy and reality separate than I really worry about your future. It doesn't matter how often you say everything is political, it won't make your delusions real.
Feanorchronos yeah. I mean, narratives can contain political aspects but mostly this is only because society has politicised those things. For example, showing that the villains use a coal plant could be considered a political dig, but not if there were not a strong division on the subject of coal pollution. Supposing the villains had a modern coal plant that processes its exhausts? The political issue is sidestepped.
@@o00nemesis00o Or it could just be shown so that the player has a better idea as to what resources the villains have and how they get them rather than saying "cause I said so". It fleshes the villains out and adds to the world building, no more, no less. It might be different if the villains having a coal plant and how bad it is was a major plot point, but chances are it will just be used as a simple explanation and maybe a location for the game to have a confrontation due to something else.
So happy that this is becoming a reality. And I'm very happy I was able to donate, I wish I could have donated more.
Everything I'm seeing and reading about this project is looking great man. I'm excited to see how this goes and am happy to see you succeeding in this goal. Keep it up man.
"We hate to break it to you, but video games have always been political."
Reminds me of the movie Boomerang with Eddie Murphy, who explained how pool billard was racist, because the goal was for the white ball to push the black ball into a pit.
did that actually happen? did he actually say that?
did he actually say that? did that actually happen?
did that actually happened? did he actually say?
did that actually happen? did he actually say that?
did he actually say that? did that actually happen?
I don't mind having differing opinions on morality etc. in video games. Hell, I usually like games that make me think at least a little. What I abhor is one-sided dumbed down propaganda, willfully misrepresenting one side of the argument. I don't like identity politics, which essentially serve to dehumanize everyone and strip them of their individuality. I don't like history being rewritten in games that proclaim themselves to be historically accurate.
Down with ulfric, for the empire!
@@toshiroyamada2443 Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
@@toshiroyamada2443 Imperial dogs! lol
@@MadManwithaSpoon YOU'RE BEING POLITICAL! I DIDN'T DONATE MONEY TO THE CAUSE FOR THIS!
It was quite a politically relevant plot that! Quite liked it except you couldn't just kill them all an proclaim yourself king.. much like the American election, a choice between a turd sandwich an a doush.. the game should have let people have that thrird option, it is escapism.
Is that what this random bearded man is going on about?
Thank you so much. I'm glad there's somewhere I can go and talk about video games without politics getting in the way. Finally, a place where I can talk about things like improving video games without having someone having an opinion not based on a video game issue. I hope this is a success. Have a great day!
You're a hero, keep doing what you do! Don't let the BS of those people consume you. You always spread positivity and no toxicity! They just protect their own interest and don't care about gamers. Also they give you PR (whether good or bad) and exposure, which drives more people to ExclusivelyGames and it makes the community grow :D
"video games have always been political"
Man who doesn't love discussing the political message of pacman, tetris and god of war
and dont forget the political message of minecraft. all this alt-right shit in there xD
@@stennnerman minecraft is full of trump supporters
I mean... Everyone wants to build a wall there
Don't you see, PACMAN was a capitalist who's hunted by those he worked to death, TETRIS is about building the communist utopia, and GOD OF WAR is about become the most BAD ASS DAD IN THE UNIVERSE and how men are evil or some fairy ass bull shit.
If I remember right, there were rumors that the gradual speedup of Tetris was a reference to increasing pressure on workers in communism... though I can't remember if the original creator confirmed or denied that.
SeasonedGamer BOY!
I would suggest getting an ip ban system in place on the site when it launches, because you know there will be some raids in the beginning.
(It'll probably die down fast though)
ip ban won't do shit everyone uses a vpn these days and if you aren't then you're silly.
Saad Maan while I hate to “underestimate” these people, there is a good chance they can’t even into technology
Cloudflare in front of it and you should be good to go
oooo are you worried someone will attack your safe space :OOO
@@tuckchodd9299 it's not a safe space, it's a castle.
Amazing work Jeremy. Finally a place that cares more about how user friendly the battle system is and not offended cause the lightest skin character has better speed stats
Congrats on getting the funding for Exclusively Games! I hope that it is a huge success.
Ladies and gentlemen
We got them. Now let’s keep going!!!
"Ladies and gentlemen". Reported as hate speech targeting those who don't identify as either gender! ;)
Adam Weishaupt wish I could email you both a punch and a high five XD
I did my part. Just Promise us one thing. That you will keep ownership of the service and never sell out to some corporation. I would hate it, If you had same what happened to Andy Signore when they kicked him out from Screen Junkies over some #metoo BS
BIG CONGRATS on securing the backing to launch this website! I sincerely hope your new project blows up huge and one day becomes one of, if not THE, premiere games websites.
It is awesome that Jeremy is creating an inclusive, safe space for video game discussion.
*BABY IT'S COLD OUTSIDE* 🎵🎶🎵🎶
TRIGGERED!!!!
@@Osias1983
AWWW.. you beat me to it.
I recently found out that the founder of Al Quaeda was triggered by this song:
qz.com/1491525/baby-its-cold-outside-and-the-rise-of-islamic-fundamentalism/
Why am I not surprised about Gameinformer, they pushed for Annita Sarkesian hard back in the day.
I completely quit reading gameinformer like 3 years ago...shit got old
And remember, GameInformer is almost solely responsible for the current state of games 'journalism'. As soon as they were purchased by GameSpot, EVERY score was immediately inflated to help drive sales at GS's brick and mortar stores. Every review became a fawning sycophant piece or despicable outrage bait, ANYTHING to drive ad traffic including stifling reviews for fear or advertisers getting annoyed that their games are bad (Kayne and Lynch for example) and to drive traffic to the stores and create tribes based on what piece of plastic you played games upon (the stupid console wars).
And it worked; for a while. But now people have (or are beginning to) wise up, and these 'journalists' have to troll harder and harder to maintain their readership to keep their advertisers happy.
Who is Annita S. ??
@@Azeltirish Ooo bless you my child. You are better off not knowing she exists believe me. Imagine if someone could go back in time and stop you from seeing The last jedi? Not knowing about her is the equivalent of that.
I agree with this statement.
Have you considered setting up part of the site to be a gamefaqs style section where you can have forums for specific games, user generated materials for the games like reviews, walkthroughs, ect?
you could literally just go to gamefaqs. there's nothing wrong with gfaqs aside from being a dead site.
Writing about videogames is actually something i'd get excited about when i was younger, but now i have a job that would never allow me to play a game on launch, fast enough to get a review out.
Congratulations!
So excited for Exclusively Games. It's going to be great following a gaming website without every second article being about identity politics. I love video games because it's a way to escape the drudgery of real life. Looking forward to this growing into something big.
You have a cool profile pic man
"We hate to break it to you, but video games (along with their development, discourse, and consumption) have always been political."
Not to the exclusion and exile of a percentage of the participants because that part disagrees ideologically. Before it was a live and let live. As long as everyone was civil people could discuss those politics. When it became too heated those running the service would force it back to a *neutral* point and say no politics in that topic from then on. But they wouldn't remove only one side or even both at times. Jeremy's site is that return to neutral point.
Also there is the cringy ham fisted politics that sacrifices story telling (or in the news case facts) to push an idea.
To all the people at Exclusively Games. Show 'em how it's done.
I really wish I could have been a part of the funding, but, unfortunately I am a broke bitch. Congrats!
Yeahhh, depending on a bunch of basement-dwelling losers for funding might have been a tactical error on his part.
We're all proud of you Jeremy, glad to be a part of this.
Do your part! Done everyone who supported this should be proud of what has been accomplished!!!
until you realize he bought a 60k mustang and invested 60k into the latest money making scheme... good luck... I just don't believe someone who has this strong scent of a sales person... seems sketchy!
@@plazookas NPC detected!!!!
@@plazookas If he buys a mustang with the money that was supposed to go to the website, he has committed fraud.
I'm doing my part! ,👍
Silly me, I forgot that games have always been political. How could I forget the biting satire of Victorian-era society in Q*bert?
The sins of capitalism in Sonic the hedgehog...
I'm still shook by the extreme political idea behind Mario cart !!! smh
Really awesome to see how much your channel has grown since the early days man! You're killing it!
Rooting for this to be a success. Hope to find some time to contribute myself!
I remember the politics surrounding Mario Bros. Why is there no Marios Sisters?? How dare they! This is totally unacceptable!!
The Great Giana Sisters is a 1987 platform game developed by German studio Time Warp Productions and published by Rainbow Arts. It is known for its controversial production history and its similarities to the Nintendo platform game Super Mario Bros., which prompted legal pressure against the producers of the game. The scroll screen melody of the game was composed by Chris Hülsbeck and is a popular Commodore 64 soundtrack. - Wikipedia
The soundtrack is awesome! Machinae Supremacy made a great remix!
remix.kwed.org/files/RKOfiles/machinae%20supremacy%20-%20great%20gianna%20sisters.mp3
@Anthony Swiss XD hehe
I don't want it, just some good ol nostalgia. ;)@Anthony Swiss
Ikr, even miss pc man exists... and tetris is gender neutral, aren't they great?
@@Chromwel-A I only had pac-man on my old ATARI console though. :( But many hours of fun, since I wasn't old enough to figure out how to move so you always win. ;)
Man, I love the political message of Serious Sam and how we should seek maximum pleasure through miniguns.
miniguns do give the maximum amount of pleasure
Sam Stone 2020
I love the political messages of Duke Nukem. "Come get some."
Congrats on the funding - definitely looking forward to having a game website worth using