DIY Rough-In Plumbing for Slab Foundation | Couple installs plumbing for house build in country
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2021
- DISCLAIMER. CONSULT LOCAL GUIDELINES AND CODES. We are in a rural area of Tennessee with a specific ground type, weather and layout. Our requirements and restrictions are also very different from other counties, states and countries.
It's a pipe tour! We are moving along towards our concrete slab pour. This is how we did our own rough-in plumbing without paying $$$$ for a contractor.
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Nervous to start but you’re giving me some confidence. I can tell you’re experienced. I’ll keep watching. Thanks for the inspiration
Actually not experienced in rough in plumbing - just well researched! Do your homework and you can do it!
i hope u started...i am
I'm just getting started myself bro. How's your progress going?
Truly appreciate what you’re doing and for sharing the details. We plan to follow in your footsteps soon; in the property search phase at the moment and focusing on eastern Tennessee. We REALLY appreciate you sharing cost figures. We’re constantly watching building and homesteading channels and yours is the first we’ve seen that gives us the details of process AND expense. Keep up the great work; looking forward to your next upload!!
Good luck on your search! There's some beautiful spots around here. If you would like any specific suggestions on locations that may be more private (we don't usually post our exact city), email us at ramsayhomeveneer@gmail.com
Glad to hear it's helping! It's hard to be honest and private at the same time, but we're trying to be realistic about what's going on and not just telling all the "happy" parts.
Jesus Christ, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, FOLLOW STATE PLUMBING CODE LAWS. Do not follow what this fella has posted. If you try to pull this off without a plumbing permit and inspection and a plumbing inspector catches you doing this? You COULD get in big trouble. It's a $500.00 fine and up to 5 years in jail if you try to pull this off in Kentucky and get caught. I know this is two years old, but I hope everything worked out for you in Tennessee. Just don't try it here in the blue grass state.
That two way fitting near the Clean out is a "no-no"!
Still enjoying your progress! Blessings from East Tennessee
The moment I seen you had your daughter out there working actually sweating I had to follow a good man right here I’ll follow you any day brother have a blessed day nothing but the best of wishes to you and your family
Thanks! We hope they learn a lot in this process.
This is so helpful!! We just moved to East Tennessee and are also wanting to do our own home build! Grateful to have others like y’all to help along the way!
Welcome to Tennessee and good luck to you!
As a licensed rough in plumber I can say with confidence that there is no way this passed inspection
Just what I was looking for. Thanks
Man... props for having the courage to try it yourself, but there is a reason we need years of experience and licenses for plumbing.
So many reasons this would fail an inspection and not function properly.
Thanks for all the info
I hope you fix that bathroom group plumbing before burying.
Perfectly work done, much appreciated I like the system. My name is alman I am also a plumber with six years experience, live in sierra leone.
Great to hear from you! Thanks for the feedback.
@6:11 that pipe you have your hand on. Should it be a WYE fitting or something to direct the water towards the septic tank? I was under the impression that you can’t have waste just drop into a horizontal pipe. I’d like to know how the inspection went. I’ve got one coming up soon for mine too. Good luck with your project!
Plumbing vents in a building are there to let air into the system, not to let air out.
Put a straw in wate and put your fingertip over the top opening of the straw. The water can't exit because air can't enter the system (you blocked the building vent).
Now, keep your finger in place and flip the straw upside-down; there will still be air against your finger, and the water will not flow downward. You've blocked the sewage system vent (exists in septic system or municipal sewage system).
So, it's not about bubbles either, although I'm sure bubbles are everywhere in the system.
No vent on tubs or kitchen island? We do loopbacks on islands and usually stack our ptraps with sanTees for tubs, showers, etc. Could always roll a Wye like you did the wc
Recently saw this and wondered if you installed cleanouts on the greywater lines.
No, we didn't
Ryan has got a worrying cough. Stay safe and healthy.
Thanks for checking up on us! I get it from time to time and have seen doctors about it. It's due to acid reflux/ gerd so I try to control it with diet and meds.
Perfect video! no BS just right to the meat.....when you are doing things you don't have time for the frills.....I don't care if your dog helped dig that hole and yea dragon flies are cool "BUT IM BUILDING A HOUSE HERE!!!!!!!....FOCUS!! "
I appreciate that!
Judging by the foliage, I'm guessing you have a true winter, which includes snow. I certainly could be wrong about this because the color of the soil is red, which makes me think warm climate.
I wonder if the water supply line from the well is deep enough (below the frost-line). The plumbing drains don't have to be below the frost-line because they drain quickly enough to avoid standing water. But the supply lines remain completely full of water, at all times.
We do have pretty well-rounded seasons, including some cold Jan-Feb winters. Frost level is recommended around 1ft for here so our fresh water coming in will be well below that.
@Dream it. Build it.
I'm happy that my worries for your water-line were for nothing.
Hey there! We live in E. TN! We are needing to do this, would love to meet you guys and maybe you can help show us how to do our plumbing??
Yeah! Let’s connect. Shoot us an email at ramsayhomeveneer@gmail.com
I live in Scott County TN and I a couple weeks out from my rough plumbing, how did everything go?
In a slab, it's best to omit the tub trap. Use a "Tub Box" to make a square (or rectangular) void in the concrete. The pipe would then run horizontally into that hole. Don't box out with wood (termites!).
This is essential for tubs (best to do for showers too, even though their drain centers are far better defined).
Use a "Tub-Box" because there is no standard on where the center of the drain pipe is, from the front of the tub. So, the exact position of the trap will vary, based on which tub you buy.
After the walls are in, you would install the trap, with the riser centered exactly to the tub's drain pipe.
To be clear, the center of the tub drain pipe has little to do with the drain hole in the tub body.
You still have to know about where the drain of the tub centers (within maybe 1"). Then, have a trap handy to make sure you can adjust the pipe length and the trap swivel to get your riser centered within a couple inches (in any direction) from the approximate center of the tub pipe. That's how you determine where to place the tub-box.
The only time I've seen the center of a tub drain pipe in a drawing, it was 1-7/8" from the wall and centered width wise. That seems to run true to what I've seen.
I personally, buy the tub ahead of time and dry fit the tub and drain assembly, in order to know the center point. However, I still wait to install the trap until the day of install. But, at least I know I'm really close before the concrete is poured.
Here's a link that shows a plastic tun-box, with the trap installed. To be clear, you wouldn't install the trap until you're installing the tub. You'll want to dry fit everything before gluing in the trap.
www.google.com/search?q=tub+box+for+p-trap&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiW6eSK_ur8AhXmIt4AHQ1-C6oQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=tub+box+for+p-trap&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIFCAAQogQ6BQghEKsCOgQIIRAKOgYIABAIEB46BQgAEIAEOgcIABCABBAYUOERWNxPYKdWaABwAHgAgAGzAYgBhxySAQUxNi4xOJgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=k3XVY9bTO-bF-LYPjfyt0Ao&bih=593&biw=320&client=ms-android-verizon-us-rvc3#imgrc=-mH606pMgSUq2M
I'm really not trying to throw shade, but I'm making these comments for the benefit of others, who haven't already poured the slab.
Thanks for all the information!
@Dream it. Build it.
For some reason, there's very little (basically nothing) I can find on the internet, on exactly how to rough a tub drain in a slab. However, there are tons of resources on how to redo one that's been done wrong.
Most of the redo examples would not satisfy the plumbing codes.
There are plenty of areas in the US, where slab homes are the norm. As well, there are slab homes (and apartments) built where basements and crawl spaces are the norm.
You would think that there would be plenty of resources on the internet, showing how to properly rough in a tub.
I know because I've installed enough tubs on slabs to see where the difficulties lie. I've also mocked up a few and worked through all the possibilities, based on which direction the pipe approaches the tub.
How did you run water to the island area?
Yup, we totally missed that! Good catch. We are going to have to cut it in later. It will be small enough we think we can patch the concrete.
Good thing you put that cleanout near that toilet. You should never plumb a toilet stack into a tee. Waste will flow in both directions, which temporarily reduces the flow in the right direction. This makes it so solids will accumulate at the tee.
Also, you had the fittings you needed. All you had to do was 90⁰ up and avoid the underground trap.
I suppose the toilet in question will vent, but you generally vent the toilet forward of the wastestream, unless it's wet-vented by way of the sink.
Just something to think about
Thanks!
A toilet drain that is 5 feet or more from the main drain needs a clean out, And the clean out will have to be 3 inch, Not every state accepts a toilet flange as a clean out., Code requires a 2 and a half inch clean out for a 3 inch pipe so obviously you would have to upsize it.
Good tips. Thanks!
Dont push in the pipe direct. Spin it to apply the glue
Absolutely, good point. Sometime it looks like a straight push but we always twist to activate that glue.
VERY GOOD IDEA TO NOT PUT GREYWATER IN SEPTIC TANK. IT WILL MAKE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM PERFORM MUCH BETTER!
Hoping it will help it out!
Plumber here--Nice effort, but sorry, fail😢.
As others have said, missing a lot of vents, and it looks like you used a two way clean out under on of your toilets. And the vent that you did use is not rolled up above the invert of the pipe.
Island venting under a slab is a challenge and appears to be missing. Good luck in a few years when the problems begin.
One last thing- no pressure joints should ever be under a slab- always use a single length of pipe and bring it up in a wall and make the connections there.
What room did you start at for your plumbing
Started at the furthest from the drain out side to be the highest. So we started in the main/ guest bathroom and worked our way across to the master bath, which is closest to the septic.
How did inspection go for plumbing?
We followed requirements (actually went over on some), but there is no plumbing inspection required for our county. Only septic and electric.
Holy smokes, where are you from? And what did you do with the "grey water" run it to daylight and let it drain over the hill? The definition for grey water where I'm from is water from a utility room floor drain, or a basic open receptacle. All your lavs, your kitchen sink and your washing machine needed to be tied back into your plumbing system. The septic will handle it. It can be treated.
Just primer no glue?
Yes plenty of glue on the primer
Shouldn't the sewer pipe be 3 inches
None of those p traps are vented and that’s a little worrying
yup and there not 3 inch so the unvented floor drain rule does not apply
Good point guys. We do have vents in the system and are doing above level vents as well (washer, etc). We will keep an eye on it.
@@DreamitBuildit check your wet vent rules and trap arm rules to insure you are the correct distance and size form you trap
I don’t know what you do for a living BUT please leave plumbing alone, please,please,please when you see plumbing done. RUN PLEASE RUN.
We definitely aren't big fans. Especially if you're doing remodeling and don't know what the person before you did.
How did plumbing hurt you? Why do you hate plumbing so much? lmao
your missing vents for your traps
Yeah, we've got vents on everything. A few we didn't need to put under the slab. More coming about our in-wall plumbing going on right now.
@@DreamitBuildit lol you do need too
Unfortunately, the kitchen sink is also blackwater, so technically, you'll have to dispose of both wastestreams in same sewage system.
The bathroom, except for the toilet, is graywater, as is laundry. Once you added in the kitch sink, the whole system became blackwater.
ALWAYS CHECK STATE PLUMBING CODES TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU INSTALL IS LEGAL. None of this would fly in Kentucky. If anything in this system ever backs up in the future you're going to have MAJOR vent issues. And that's just the start. All these CZcams videos are going to give people in my state terrible info. Flat vents, wet vents, no vents, trying to separate grey water from waste water, glue traps below the slab, no grillage to speak of around the pipe. Dude, I'm glad this stuff will fly wherever you are, but please, don't post this stuff on youtube for the world to see. You could really get someone in trouble around my neck of the woods.
Yes I agree I just started my plumbing company and I'm looking at these videos like damn I do it way different
Fail
Wow not legal but hey CZcams plumbing at its best lmao