It's Topical | Race against time to form new SA government
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- As the 2-week deadline looms for the first sitting of the new South African National Assembly following a historic election where the governing ANC lost its outright majority, we ask how far are coalition talks and if the ANC can pull off its proposed Government of National Unity?
Host Blain Herman sits with political analyst Susan Booysen and the digital audience to get some answers
Pray for Peace for SA
there wont be peace ....the war just started , enough is enough....white dont own sa
What does the Bible says on that?
It's just been such a disappointing 30 years. We are so sick of the drama, corruption, violence and chaos. We have so much potential as a country but when you have the blind leading the blind it just becomes a hopeless cycle
But politicians don’t listen to us while we’ve voted. I will never vote again
Yes, always drama. Like this current situation for example. What is so complicated? The audience were able to describe clear priorities and next steps which the political leaders seem unable to do.
Me to rethinking if i want to vote they say no complaining if you dont vote so be it
Yes it's like alpt of talk , an more talk
.And more talk. All these people are lying sacks of vrap except Steenhuisen as he's actually backed up what he said he would.
😂😂 you sound like a broken record. No one forced you to vote, so let the people with more brain discuss these matters because this is a dialog between those who voted with the leaders they voted for. Rrlax citizens who voted are busy holding these leaders accountable. You can go on and play with the other kids that didn't voted.@sifisodube4686
Audience shows far more wisdom than the political leaders
No, just utterly naive.,
Land serves as a catalyst for change; without it, the status quo remains unchanged. The party that ignores this does not deserve a seat at any negotiating table.
SABC is going to go down with ANC if they go on like this.
We approaching our 7th parly
Lets fix SA first n leave other countries to sort their own affairs
I don't even believe you can ignore the rest of the world, you still have South Africa businesses doing trade outside. It is also raised south Africas' s international standing which increased tourism for them getting involved in international affairs. That was a win win for everyone
I like this group of youth and their Prof in this debate
ANC doesnt want to take responsibility of failing poor people. Imagine a Leader who can not choose who to work with.
What will the benefits be of a GNU between the ANC/DA and IFP
Stop Corruption = YES
Job Creation = YES
Protect Constitution = YES
Improve SOE's = YES
Improve Healthcare = YES
Protect Social Benefits = YES - Imagine the blowback from citizens if the DA interferes with this.
Improve security = YES
Improve education = YES
Does it bring land back to the owners - No
Supports genocide by DA in Gaza - Yes
DA should go and govern Europe not South Africa
land thieves ruling over victims, creating jobs for their slaves the landless and protecting the constitution of land thieves
They run their municipality the best go work that out @stevenwilliams3015
lol and yet they have the best run municipalities @stevenwilliams3015
Glory days of ANC are over.
Infact time for black people is coming to an end.
Yes are over but what’s happening now we’ve voted but politicians now are busy fighting among each other I will never vote
They .just go register for SASA😅😅
30 years ago
This because there was no honesty of purpose since the end of Thabo Mbekis 1st term. People came to enrich themselves at the the detriment of the same people that voted for them.
Thank you digital audience. We need our young running SA
This is one of his most sensible interviews I have to say. Very much measured.
Love this audience. Let them run the country.
ANC should make a Government of National Unity with those that are ready to work it including the DA and other progressive fronts. Whoever is not interested, should stay out of the grand coalition. The parties that have refused to join will have themselves to blame. Ramaphosa must ride above the noise, take charge with all other progressive parties and marshall South Africas problems with a collective agreement on a way forward with timeliness to prosperity and glory.
This will make the poor more poorer and the richer more rich
ANCestor party
Kwagogo party took us from apartheid to corruptheid 😂
Well it’s back to apartheid now since they will be forming a government with the DA who will have a significant amount of power in government
😂😂😂😂
@14 min onwards, this speaker is a exact representation in words of how the government is run and has been run since 30yrs. Time for a "well spoken" dialogue with the country and government. We want clarity and excellence in delivery
DA started the division when it said it wont work with certain parties like EFF then and MK lately and PA, they need to eat their words and apologise for labelling others players public enemies. I think they were not responsible. They should find a different way of expressing that. We need matured politics who should have communication departments which should ventilate their proposals and visions in a manner which brings cohension. Mixing water and oil does not work. Its not a matter of numbers but cohension. Public service is priority here...
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Not 100persnt the da is not the only one the anc aswell stop blaming them The anc still wants to rule with all his corrupt cronies that is why nothing will come right All those deputies not needed that is whats wrong
Very interesting especially the views coming from the youth 👏🏼👏🏼
Why doesn’t Any party talk about BIRTH CONTROL ! I think it is one of the most important conversations to be have
It's easy to clean up South Africa. My concern is the crime that the ANC, as the ruling party of the last 5 years has done NOTHING about protecting our food security, criminal run rife in this country, and nothing is done. 😢
What parliament building? ANC probably had it burnt down
We cannot compromise our policies because of DA accommodations.
We accepted change in 1994
We must accept reality 2024
There was no change in 1994, just new black elites... perpetuating the status core
ANC should look to the majority needs and their international relations that they have established.
Truely Coalition is the best way irrespective of Colour
No such GNU if ANC can do that it means ANC is lost can never get vote going in that direction of GNU lost forever
Not with DA rather EFF +MK+IFP our best ANC does not care about South Africa they are fighting amongst themselves because of power if you take me out why so and so ANC can’t program us they must go because the problem is izikhundla If ANC can go to GNU meaning they lost everything not even one nominate one person
A Government of National Unity - Is by far the Best model for South Africa. ANC + DA + IFP ( + VF )
😂😂😂 what a load of bull. Keep dreaming
It's the best. So you're not for the future of our beautiful SA?????
There you are again excluding the coloured vote
Glory days for anc are over, people are too thick in the end too see it !
Time to break free from the false prophets and thieves.
Reading these comments makes me realise SA is screwed.
Long ago. Illiteracy has brought them here
I am puzzled why these parties are obsessed with ideology. South Africa problems for the next 2-5 years is to fix basic infrastructure. Provide water to the people, improve sanitation, fix the roads, improve healthcare, bring back vocational education, fix the SOEs, sell SAA it’s off no use to a majority of South Africans. If there’s still money build hosing. You can’t grow the economy without a working infrastructure, after that they can worry about ideology, by that time it will be 2029 elections :-). For now the country needs technocrats to fix the broken infrastructure.
Our A grade coal is being sold overseas, thanks to technocrats....
Ideology is everything. It's a moral compass. A backbone. Guiding principles.
How do you think conflicting ideologies can coexist...? If was marriage, it becomes a divorce while still in the honeymoon. By the way NP withdrawn from GNU of 1994. Ideology is everything.
SA needs 5 years of delivery and implementation. Policy and ideology are really not the problem that requires fixing.
Let's pray for our country.
The essential is to deliver services to the people & to stop corruption. ANC plus Small parties can hold a centrist revitalised 51% Governing majority with & balanced left & right opposition keeping the Government in check and effective, to deliver!!End corruption. No value to have Extremists in power!!
What about DA burning the flag why julius be his name why This Da guy of which we cannot allowed ANC to collision with DA why never DA must be in their own the rest yes . Zondo is not involve in any parliament we are not rushing we rather go to drawing board you can’t form sitting without all parties Zondo can’t cut our throats because is rushing we vote here as ppl of South Africa cannot being fooled by ANC instead of rushing we will wait we don’t want to form any coalision with DA
Minority gvt with confidence and supply agreement is by far the most stable option
I disagree ,will come back strong because now we know the people who wanted to bring our party to it's knees.
As a voter, don't necessarily want "my" party calling the shots but I do want them weighing in on certain matters
The best option is the ANC, IFP and DA government.
An anc gov official must NEVER AGAIN be president or vice president of SA.
This will b a major mistake
There won't be any GNU, only some sort of coalition. This is not 1994.
The to the question is this GNU best for the country, the answer is a big NO. It's actually a recipe for disaster!!
What is the solution then
Impressive comments from the young men and women. Loved the discussion and dialogue. 👏🏾👏🏾
We were all told to go , vote for change some of us we never wanted. But we did vote then politicians are now fighting among each other. They don’t care about us at all except there own interest I will never vote what’s the point of voting if they are busy doing this rubbish
Really Sifiso you got the point why can't they approach people who voted for renewal next thing they busy fighting each other, nonsense. I'm so fed up otherwise there's gonna be no government but chaos, civil war. Zuma like chaos and want Anc to join him so satanic. 😱😱😭😭😭Where are the churches they consulted for they need. prayer. ANC+PA+IFP+BOSA not DA please please South Africans please. 🙇🙇🙇🙇🙆🙆🙆🙆
Pity.. Don't comment then, ever. If you didn't vote. You're part of the problem.
The Best Coalition is one that will undoubtedly improve the Economy.. restore market confidence and increase foreign investment... if we can increase employment.. move people out of welfare (R350) and into decent paying jobs.. even if it is minimum wage for the majority of unskilled workers.. it will automatically restore DIGNITY amongst millions.. and when people have economic relief .. there is an opportunity for joy which can transcend to peace and harmony.. stability and growth. I think the promoters of the social justice ideologies and foreign issues are honestly bad actors who are aware of what could make this country better, but will ride the radical ideology wave AGAINST the best interests of a South African Born Citizen who are accorded every human right.. irrespective of colour.💖
Most times it what people say
That's given priority.. Instead of what they do.. Example the obvious success of the western cape for example compared to the rest of the country should be more important than what people say about the DA.
Coalition is the better way
The best way for a better national and right way to serve the nation!!!GNU.
Are our comentators on the screen remember that in 1994 the GNU could not work? Why they think it will work now with DA saying cannot work with MK, #FF, PA, ATM and other Pan Africanist parties. The DA is prepared to work with ANC of Ramaposa alone taking out the very owners of the cpuntry.
Service Delivery so that we all , rich and poor have sustainable jobs, decent homes, basic requirements Viz clean water, electricity without disruption and food on the table .
Nou a single voter voted for a coalition. Not a single voter or a group of voters thought to do what these analysts say. Don't expect politicians to make up for the short-sightedness of the voter
Agreed. Lots of people say "the electorate voted for this".
Voters vote for the party they want to win.
@@politelyimpolite it can only be that the commentators, media and whoever else have zero idea of reality
The best mix is ANC,DA,PA,and IFP. Jacob is a looter and Judas is a snake
@@markcoleman7497 and EFF are destructive
I didn't vote for the DA to become part of these crooks and looters that is the ANC
Apartheid was 3 years old when I was born in 1951.So it doesnt matter to me whether a DA / ANC coalition makes sense on a logical level on an emtional level I will resent it with all of my heart.
What if there was an ANC president and a DA vice president. Would that not work? And they can work with all the other parties.
ANC is anti genocide and pro Palestine. The DA is anti Palestine and anti BRICS. They'd rather have us being under the thumb of the west and the USA... so not sure if it might work regarding those stances
As a country we want a president brand new 😉
Only one collision that will work
ANC , MK and EFF okunye akuyofa
Status Quo vs Radical transformation of the the economy.
1) In 1994 GNU meant to end apartheid oppression.
2) In 2024 GNU must be formed to confront and solve inequalities, poverty, lawlessness and influx of foreigners.
Ramaphosa played an instrumental role in 1994 to help form the GNU which made him rich, protected white apartheid economy and created a black Bourgeoisie class which is aloof of the suffering of the majority. Fast forward 2024 Ramaphosa cost the ANC its majority, lost 22% of votes since 2020 and seek to direct the ANC to serve white Capital again.
Lets have another election.
The same results might come back, MK and EFF might take another voters from ANC and what will happen the problem will be magnified...
ANC and DA can do better for the country
How?
Indeed
@@sfisobuthelezi3054 ...the DA will secure international business interests which will put money on the looting ANC's table and support SASSA babies and the unemployed.
You admit that as black South African, you have failed to RUN the country💯 @spencercourtis9371
Nope, DA always invite CIA, US or Israel in the country. They literally write to them
Eish, if and only if ANC had made education free we probable be having a much more educated youth. But they give them grants when they make babies so that they will just continue to vote. It is a pity that lots of ANC votes are because of grants.
Absolutely true
Absolute power did not work
Fani nelane no i dont think it will last Couse they have different mandate
We ddnt vote for DA.
You're problem 😮
There we go again.
Race isn't the proplem but you are.
Whose we? Speak for yourself Wena
The Best option for South Africa is for The Small Parties to set ANC up as an accountable Government, adding their 14% (or a minimum of 11%) to ANC's 40% to have a centrist 51%. DA + FF plus have 25% as opposition on Right. MK + EFF remain in opposition on Populist Left with 23%. That is a stable Democratic Centrist Gov with all represented & heard!
A logical and realistic response compared to things I have been reading.
Come Jesus come we been waiting so long to heal every hart hurt this isn't right come Jesus come
Can someone please tell me we Got 50 million people in our country how are the votes stats so low
People not sure who to vote for.
ANC and DA will make the best coalition they both must learn to live and work together.
Coalition = Collision
Please politician work together to improve African people also don't be greedy leaders we also don't need leaders to enrich themselves
This is really bad we don't have law at government
Brick is not important. People of sa are important. Stop involving bricks how is it going to help me us??
da sides with brics enemies. US, and Europe. Do u live under a rock😮😅
In sovereign countries business is subservient to the government and the people. But in Africa Business is called the private sector and self governed in the name of free market economy.
Im glad PA is there , we need a party to be the security gaurd
This president has buggered this country up BIGTIME!!!! GOODNESS, WE NEED HIM AND ALL INVOLVED FIRED AND OUT!! AND LET IT SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE, DO YOUR JOB, OR GETOUT!!!
If they had to go ern like this, for example in Belgium, those citizens would mass demonstrate and Force the lot OUT and lay criminal charges and make sure they serve jailtime!! Its time to think about what we have allowed and put up with, our country is in a MESS!!!!
People First. We the people of SA voted and sent our representative parties to the parliament to improve the quality of life of all people. Service delivery, Create jobs to eradicate poverty, stop crime, stop corruption, economic growth are we need. If you as a party can't do this, pls don't go the parliament and resign.
Who will be holding the DA responsible. So you are saying that DA is responsible. I have a problem with people who think like that
You read it wrong?
People are always going on about their municipalities are best run, but ignore all the issues around their municipalities as well. DA is quick to claim victories, and quick to point the finger to someone else when things are bad. Look at the irregular expenditure they had in Tshwane.
Yini le ejahiwe abantu bekhalaza ngamavoti ,kuqhutshekelwani nokungalungile yini le efihlwayo
The DA and ANC have great differences when it comes to foreign policy. The way the DA treats foreign policy is to racial
Very interesting.Our target is the youth.We sre talking about declaration of the youth.
They should put up candidates. Not a party.
It's a trick again to remain in power tactically you lost.
Charity begins @home
If we as a nation are able to work together, we are likely to become one of the most powerful nations in the world in many aspects. We have an opportunity to be influential as a country and become a model for most countries to learn from. I see this multi government as a huge opportunity for our people.🇿🇦
I want naledi pandor as pres of the rainbow gov
GNU , transperancy first to the, nation before signing into agreement 🤝. Adopt a vision for he next 5 years to boost the economy and raise the bar ,for the standard of living in dignity.
ANC calls you to a party and you forget they are the ones to tell you what to do or what not to do, know that if you refuse that's your own Indaba, please don't blame anyone,watch the space.😊
ANC can not do that as they are not majority. Remember if all oppositions come together, they have 60% and can form a government of national unity without ANC. Days of bullying, because you are majority, are gone.
Ramaphosa faction of ANC want DA while the Gwede Faction of ANC want EFF and MK
EFF is nonsense south africa first
Agree🎉
If EFF rules we will have another Zimbabwe
@tnkn969 Even worse because, unlike Zimbabwe the South Africans will have nowhere to run
The citizens deserve people in cabinet that have brains not fools who have no concern about anything else but themselves
ActionSA/PA should take police/home affairs or share them
My observation: large group of people did not vote for a particular party, but rather out of fear for another party to come in. PA is different, because it has a great leader FOR which people actually voted.
Let me explain:
1. Many people voted DA because they were afraid if they don't then the EFF will come in and potentially destroy this country's economy.
2. Many people voted ANC/EFF because they were afraid if the DA gets too strong they will end up with another apartheid under a white leader.
People are afraid. And their fears blinds them to reality.
I currently see only one strong party leader that rose up with INTEGRITY and that is Gayton.
I did not vote for him, I did not vote. I observe from the side and see. I agree with Gayton that a DA/ANC Coalition is a great danger for South Africa, and let me add: especially when the next planned pestilence is released and they want to poison us all with you-know-what and take away all our freedom to become their slave cattle and monitor our every move - wake up people, we cannot allow that. DA was the worst when it came to pushing people to take the snake poison during the practise run pestilence which will be nothing compared to the next one the evil ones plan on releasing. In this election the DA gathered votes by playing on the fear of the people if a wreckless leader like Malema may come and destroy everything that was built up in this country, whilst they themselves are the greatest threat to us all while being deeply in the pockets of the evil globalist so called "elites" and paving the way towards enforcing their evil agendas.
The DA is FOR the Zionists and have their interests at heart, NOT YOURS.
UTHIXO UZANIPHANGELISA LONKE ILIZWE ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hopefully the outcome leans to each party firstly upholding the needs of the people per se.
We want changes in investors and employment. We want very clean well run municipalities where small towns become lucrative as employment hubs and where money comes in and is spent.
A multi party means that each party will have the opportunity to watchdog…take to task the actions of those employed by the people to do the job properly.
Back people are naive , the differences betwean white monopoly capital and the hopes and the dreams or the ordinary South African are to far apart even Mandela died before bridging that gape
Re election may be can solve this problem without any rigging of people's votes this will be the best in solving this kind of confusion
New Think Tank will work
The results are perfect as they are, they should go to parliament as the results portray present policies not along coalition lines but along majority rules principles. Each party will present it's case thus it's stands a chance for it's policies to prevail if it manages to convince the majority not already decided choices like Phalaphala matter.
A government of National Unity will be a monumental failure because parliament will be a continued circus with the left and right keeping the center distracted and paralyzed. The differences between the left and right are unreconciable. The answer is an alliance of parties that are able to deliver improved lives for the voters. The function of government is to manage resources to benefit the voters.
The best thing that the ANC can do for international relations is to work with all parties. To demonstrate true peace by working together. It's one thing to back Palestine but it's another thing if you have the lived experience on how to resolve the middle east issues by living in harmony with your fellow citizens. The saying goes' you can only give what you have. You cannot give to others what you don't have'
I like it when the youth is discussing our politics. The youth is here,but look the same old leaders still want to rule with their old comrades who think about nothing but looting.
UTHIXO UZANIPHANGELISA NONKE ❤❤❤❤❤❤
We need kushitshwe umthetho ocindezela umnu omnyama
Are we not governless at the moment?