Jim Cornette on Cody & Brandi Rhodes Leaving AEW
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2022
- From Episode 419 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Cody Rhodes’ very first appearance on WWE television again needs to be the camera slowly panning out to reveal Cody meticulously super-gluing Triple H’s throne back together
🤣
While also rubbing, tugging and blowing Triple H’s sledgehammer
Well if you look at how WWE has recently treated HHH, maybe the destruction of the throne is what got Cody is big payday
Nah it needs to be camera moving through a dimly lit corridor in locker room as we hear a man crying as it get louder the camera enters a locker room and the crying stops as we see stardust applying the final touches to his face paint........
Lumberjack match
I love how this aged horribly and Cody proved not only these 2 but aew wrong lol
Like you a Messiah 😅😅😅😅
Cody Rhodes still isn't a household name by no means
This aged poorly
In a way. He's still not champion and may not for another year if they want Reigns to beat Hogan's record.
@@erics8018actually he is🤣cry about it mark
"Upper midcard guy"😂 One of the worst predictions ever made
Crazy how much in contrast Cody has succeeded with the WWE, compared to AEW.
I think Tony should definitely be regretting Cody’s departure, seeing how huge Cody has been now. His WM 39 entrance was crazy.
Every day it looks more and more like those predictions about AEW's biggest match being Cody vs Punk at Wrestlenania were right after all.
2 years later...
This may have been their version of the radicals leaving WCW to WWF.
@@KamoMustafaWWE 2 years later and I’m damn near shedding tears of joy seeing Cody win last weekend 🤣🤣
"Cody Rhodes may have left AEW, but the neck tattoo still lives on"
Right 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆
Has a bad tattoo ever derailed a wrestler like this before?
It just made him look insufferable
Cody vs Corey
@@JPD2587 more insufferable
Someone should open a go fund me for laser removal of that neck tattoo.
If there's one positive thing if Cody goes back to WWE, at least that Stardust costume will cover Cody's neck tattoo.
😁
😂
That and we won't have to see Brandi on tv
@@whatdoesthefoxxsay5886 don't laugh
The power of positivity!
Cody is a large reason AEW exists, so him leaving is very surprising. I hope he didn’t sign without some protections. He needs to come in at a higher level than he left. He needs to be near the top of the card, not in the middle to the bottom of the card.
yea no mixed couple matches with the Miz lol
What if they want him in NXT to feud with Bron
Yeah. Tony Kahn was flaunting Cody Rhodes around to get interest from potential business partners for AEW. Having the "Rhodes" name gave Tony's venture some credibility. Maybe Tony has not kept up his end of whatever deal they had. Cody might not have gotten to be the creative/business partner he expected. That's my thought on the potential falling out
@@seangalvin3196 I agree. Not to mention TK's vision of AEW is probably closer to the Buck's and Omega's vision.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 lord I hope not.. I like that he's doing like a twist on the ol wcw nitro basically an adding some new flavor here an there.. but the indy hard-core stuff needs to be saved for big matches on big ppv not every other week 5 times a night.. I like some of the move sets the younger guys have, but they need to learn when an where to do them not just do them all back to back every dam match.. that makes them mean less..
ooh this video aged badly
“I don’t believe in boring old tropes like face and heels” he gets boo’d out of the company he founded due to him not taking an obvious heel turn. Good job Cody
😂🤣😂👌👌👌😂😂👌👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏👏
I'd pay to have Cody sat in a chair with a camera on his face as Mike Tenay reads and plays stuff back to him
So he critized WWE just to go to them lol
Give him the polka dot treatment Vince!
The sad thing is that no matter what is done, heel, babyface or even a 'loose cannon', Cody will always be stuck in his own tired and silly trope. And yes, the boos will continue to come. He over- exposed his ambitions and people are clamoring to knock that shit down since he comes across so f'n arrogant IN REAL LIFE. He will find out that he cannot work people with any version of himself or some character dreamt up by WWE creative.
First thing I thought of when I heard the news was "I wonder if Vince knows about the neck tattoo yet" and the thumbnail did not disappoint.
I agree with Corny. And I will say, Cody has improved since leaving. He’s earned my respect.
I mean you respect is meaningful but okay
23:25
"I think Cody is going to be very well paid upper mid-card guy"
Fast forwarded 2 years later, Cody wins his second Rumble match in a row and is going to finish his story. What a ride!
Fr say what you can but back to back rumble wins ensures you go from great wrestlers to face of an era. Hbk and Steve Austin did it. That’s it. Winning two makes you a legend outright but back to back in rarified air
Cody is one of those who will be reflected on how he became a star along with Drew, Roman, Lashley, Seth, Cena not saying they were all top of the shop but they all held a sense of dedication especially Lashley and Drew who built themselves back up that can even apply to Cody
Vince: You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
They always comeback
Lol In Wrestling Vince is inevitable.
@@AlexanderMacAoidh It’s hilarious because they think they can be bigger without Vince. Unless you go to Hollywood that’s not going to happen.
Vince: i still have your Stardust outfit.
Technically Punk hasn't returned since it was Fox and not vince that contracted
"If we would set Brandy Rhodes on fire. People would fight over those tickets" - Jim Cornette
That's literally not even funny. Seriously? Why is that funny ?
@@jeffmac9642 ok snowflake
@@jeffmac9642 I'd buy two tickets. And one for the matinee.
It’s hilarious
I'll bring the Marshmallows
Would love to see Cody’s face when he asked Vince if Brandi can wrestle and Vince bursts out laughing 😂
She's his kind of woman wrestler.
I mean they let Eva Marie and Lana wrestle, it’s worth a shot to ask
Brandi is an attractive woman who knows somewhat about the bare bones basics of in-ring work. Vince isn't laughing in her face considering they're already in the "bring back 'legends' to bulk out the roster" part of the women's roster.
I mean....he allowed for the likes of Debra to get in the ring. So...Brandi would be a mediocre Charlotte Flair in comparison
Vince McMahon (not Vince Russo aka (to which Corny calls "S@#t Stain"): "This /That's some Great Stuff, Pal !" (then, Vinnie Mac tugs on one of his ears)..
It’s wild how their opinions about Cody have changed.
Cody fits best with WWE everyone can see that now. That’s the change.
It's wild the internet thinks you're not allowed to change how you feel.
@@alexhobbs1208 exactly. Only a fool would look at what Cody is doing now is still have the same opinion they had about him two years ago when he wasn’t positioned in the right way. WWE did what they was suppose to do with Cody.
@@alexhobbs1208 i totally agree! I was just making a statement how it wild the shift is.
It is crazy revisiting this point in time - two years later.
Been waiting for Jim's reaction to this news all week, and I can honestly say that I'm not disappointed. 👍
Same I refreshed CZcams every few hours all week lol
Man, I have been waiting for this ever since the news broke. So over the span of 6 years, Cody Rhodes gets fired from WWE, creates a company to rival WWE and becomes Jeff Jarrett 2.0, then returns to WWE 3 years into his company’s run.
He created nothing. He owns no company as you are preferring too. He was an evp. thats is all. Mid-card at aew and back to mid-card to WWE.
Cody is a clown, he was actually on his way to an all time great babyface run after his Jericho program and the start of his MJF feud and then he got that dumbass neck tatt and I swear everything went downhill from there and now he’s going back to WWE
@@TAFKASYFY Buddy needs the laser tattoo removal ASAP. That tattoo has brought out the worst of him ever since
@@vernessalkic1065, Cody helped create AEW when he, Omega, and Jericho did an indy pay-per-view and sold out 10k tickets.
Based on the success of that they looked for a backer to form a new company. That’s why they’re all executive vice presidents in AEW.
So AEW is partly his company even though he doesn’t have an ownership stake in it.
@@vernessalkic1065 If it wasn't for him AEW wouldn't even exist...lol he's not the best, but he does have that in his pocket
Wow has Brian's feeling about Cody aged horribly. "Not gonna have an AEW guy get wins over Roman, Brock or Lashley" lol
Well he lost to Roman when it mattered... sooo...
@@MadcowMania And now he is going to finish his story 👏🏼
@@MadcowMania To lead to him headlining one night with the Rock and presumably beating Roman's reign on night 2. Ruh roh...
He was wrong yes but no one though that Cody would be the biggest star in the business 2 years ago. Like they said he was getting booed out the building two years ago
@@RonJP-pm7jp cuz AEW is joke in story telling and fans. Cody had to get out of there to rise.
The most disappointing part of this is that no one got to get their hands on Brandi. Could you imagine the pop if she took a bump on her last day with the company? It would be Dixie Carter going through the table tier.
I’m sure a lot of the guys wanted to get their hands on Brandi and probably have.😂🤣
Already ordered a pizza for this 42 mins of gold😂😂
raat ke 12 baje
@@164_hritikbanerjee8 night shift wfh😂
@@teamhhh1 oo😂😂
And me doing my assignment listening to this...glad to see indian fans in the drive thru😅😁
@@chiraglotlikar that's not a good sign.
This is the EMPIRE STRIKES BACK with the wwe. This is bringing Cody in as a wedge to get Warlow and MJF.
this is a lesser mentioned point--but a great one.
All the people WWE have reportedly had interest in were all either hired with help of Cody or were specifically Cody guys. MJF, Jade, Wardlow, etc. wouldn’t be shocked if other people Cody looked at like Starks and Hobbs are next on their list of interests.
Lol MJF would never go to WWE, his gimmick doesn’t work in WWE. He’d have to keep everything PG which just doesn’t work. Warlow however I think will make the jump imo
@@oCapri why doesn’t it work? He should be influencing his gimmick with 80s flair tapes anyway. Kids got serious potential.
@@comeatmebr0o He can say anything he wants in AEW, WWE will give him a corny script
To this *day* it amazes me that not even Jim and Brian understood that Cody was a heel at the end of his AEW run.
"Refusing to turn heel" was his heel gimmick. He's said as much multiple times.
Oh yeah... John Cena said similar things. Cena is the only one that can get away with it.
Oh, you guys were so wrong. Arm chair quarterbacks. I routed for Cody coming back. I'm glad his first year was so good. I hope he finishes his story with the big gold belt.
I loved when Cody put bags over kids heads and called them ugly. That character needs to come back
It’s just a really likeable character
If he does go back to WWE, I have a feeling Vince would want stardust back over his "dashing" gimmick. In today's woke culture, watch someone complain that Cody is calling people ugly and putting bags on their heads lmao.
@@dr6770 oh I know they could never do that gimmick again but for the short time he did that it was extremely memorable in all of wrestling
Brian said Cody was not wanting to turn heel and maybe that was the booking issues backstage. But maybe it was the other way round? Cody knows more about wrestling than Tony. He probably wanted to go heel but Tony wanted him to stay face.
@@user-sj3lz7pd1n I was thinking the same thing. I think Tony Kahn didn't want to turn him heel because it would be just like the HHH character for the past 15 years. Cody knows better
Nothing like doing segments on your old boss, making them look bad, then....try to go back to them 🤣
Yeah very sad
Nah his old boss is now clamoring to give him a higher pay than his current boss cuz he’s a bigger deal
@@davidnelson4347 nothing sad about this situation. That man is doing fine in life
@@gatesofwrestling doing fine in life I’m sure but doesn’t change the fact he’s running back to the place he knocked simply because they fired him. That’s sad
@@davidnelson4347 it's not new in wrestling and it gets people talking.
So pumped for the "American Nightmare: The Fall of Cody Rhodes" Omnibus!!!
“American Nightmare: The Self-Destruction Of Cody Rhodes.”
Oh, shit! He's too bland for any of that nonsense. This guy's worst-case scenario is: he retires from professional wrestling before his older brother, forfeiting an opportunity to make money as a heel and raises his family.
American Nightmare: Rhodes hits the Road.
@@R0binah00d Rhodes to the Bottom
I think the end of the omnibus will his match against Seth Rollins on Wrestlemania 38.
It’s hilarious how Jim’s show and getting his reactions to shit is what seemingly most people look forward to than the actual supposed “wrestling” shows that are on TV.
True! I only started watching AEW every week early last year since the first few months they began because I wanted to see what Jim was talking about. I was thinking "No way, it can't be THAT bad" but once I started watching again, I saw he was telling the truth 😂
I just completely ignore all his show reviews since I don't watch and haven't for years.
Facts
People would rather listen to the review instead of waste their time and actually watch it.
@@ScarFeiss to take away from the tv ratings? That's not gonna work for them, brother.
(Driving past)
“He’s finally talking about it!”
(Crashes into tree)
42 minutes !? Holy shit this is going to be fun
Yeah but this ought to be as it was overdue 😀
14 hours is going to be even better!
didn't even realize that LMAO
It really was as fun as I thought, if not more so 😁😁😁
Until I hear Cody's music hit and see him walk down a WWE ramp, I think this is an incredibly elaborate work
I know it's a few months late, but do you want to comment on how things played out?
@@sebastianb.3978 I'm glad everything worked out the way it did, tbh.
@@sebastianb.3978 credit for being a good sport and also not being like some dummies saying he'd be Stardust and "buried". To be fair I doubt most believed that anyway. A lot of online fans just like to create hypothetical scenarios to laugh at or be upset with.
Brian spoke with so much "confidence " and was so wrong about this.
He's an arrogant mark.
He was wrong yes but no one though that Cody would be the biggest star in the business 2 years ago. Like they said he was getting booed out the building two years ago.
@RonJP-pm7jp that why you always wach before you talk, just because he is bad in on company doesn't mean he's going to be terrible in another one
@@joeldoe1883 that’s true. But to be fair they didn’t say he would be a jobber. They said upper mid card. Again no one thought he would be the biggest star in wrestling.
The moment he came out of the Codyvator at WM38, it was pretty obvious he was gonna be THE GUY
Cody was a big fish in a small pond when AEW started, but then the big boys came to play (Punk/Danielson) and things changed...
And yet those big boys are still producing the same ratings as Cody was before they got there.
@@ShaneTumminello And yet they're still bigger than Cody who has NEVER been main event level talent.
@@murrayroodbaard207 I agree that Cody isn’t main event level. Punk and Bryan are more so than Cody ever will be. I’m simply stating that they aren’t any more of a draw than Cody is/was.
@@ShaneTumminello people have been put off AEW so much by Marko Stunt and the rest of the idiots, that they stopped tuning in. If AEW takes off again they beed to work for it.
Danielson and Punk are better wrestlers in every way but that's hardly a knock on Cody. They're better than almost everybody who's ever wrestled.
I havent finished the whole video yet but to the point of Cody not wanting to turn heel, ive heard a report he knew he may be leaving and didnt want to use up any material and leave a few months later. With his whole "workshoping" thing i could honestly see that being true
Heard the same thing… it’ll be interesting to see
@@Hakysak89 and interesting isnt something we get to say too often these days lol
@@coryrichardson403 no my friend we don’t lol.
"Tony doesn't cut anyone, Tony doesn't cut his toenails.." Lmao!
The one thing I keep going back to is all those digs that Cody kept making at Triple H over the last couple of years. I can't help but think that a big part of Cody's decision to return to WWE has to do with Hunter's fall from grace within the company.
Ironically didn’t Cody state HHH is his favorite wrestler?
Didn’t he take a dig at WWE on his last promo? Saying AEW won’t change your name to Buddy McGillibuddy or something like that?
And that exchange with Reigns a few years ago on Twitter, but good luck to him lol
HHH didn't fall...he was pushed.
@@billhogue9523 same thing. He failed to play the game
Cody and Brandi thought their brand was more important than the company. He latched onto the Elite to establish that brand when he first left WWE and it worked until he no longer needed them in his mind. Tony landed CM Punk and Bryan Danielson and realized he has enough star power to where he doesn’t have to deal with Cody’s ego and Brandi trying to be a star at the expense of the show.
Yeah…sure but the Young Fucks are still on the roster ruining talent they’re afraid of.
Keep thinking that mark... that promotion is in the RED!!! DOES NOT MAKE MONEY! ITS A BUSINESS THAT IS FAILING!!!
Please!!! Tony khan!!! Sign the new day!!! Get that garbage off of WWE programming... my god....
@@almightyironhead25
Where do u see these facts?
@@Charziken909 well... let me see... EVERY SINGLE dirt sheet you marks listen to... people behind the scenes in THAT promotion and WWE... YOUR GOD AND SAVIOR DAVE MELTZER... shall I go on...
I think Cody's first WWE segment should be him super glueing a throne back together.
And letting Hunter sit on it? lol
And hand over Golden Shovel to Triple H
"There is nothing that shticky tape cannot fix" - Guido Hatzis.
@@ScarFeiss vince is not that evil dude, chill out, cody will be good, he wanted to have rights of his father dusty, his career his choice.
@ScarFeiss well Cody saw great treatment afterall.......
One year later, Last sounds like a clown
One year later, your still just as stupid as you were 20 years ago
@@SixEighthOfficial calling me stupid but you use the wrong "your"
Maybe the worst aged hour of Cornette Experience ever.
THIS IS IT!!! The Video we been waiting for. Its Funny Cornette predicted that Cody would be the First EVP to Go months ago as he didn't seem as dedicated to AEW as Omega and the Bucks. If only we could get rid of the Bucks and there Goofball Comedy Next. I guess Dan Lambert won this feud I will miss Brandi trying to act ghetto in her Ridiculous Promos 😂😂😂
Yessssss!!!!👍👍👍👍👍
Here We Go!!!
Cornette is like George Carlin. 99% of the time he’s right 100% of the time.
The ultimate soothsayer.
Their*
He's not leaving. He's winning the AEW title. Lol
The most anticipated episode of the year! You gotta agree, we all been waiting for this for almost a week now.😭
He needs to come in as a heel. They can play off reality shows and all that, especially when he says the first family of wrestling. Cody doesn't probably want to be heel, but he's a natural heel.
What do you think about his heel who thinks /pretends to be a face character ? I really have liked it. That character is someone who wants so desperately to be seen as a hero. That cm punk promo, could he be more arrogant and full of himself. You could feel the rage and jealously, the intense need to be praised and glorified.
It would be funny if his WWE return is on Miz & Mrs.
@@bradpaton3927 lol you’re gold
The man *literally* refused to turn heel in AEW, which is one of the reasons he got shit canned. He's not going to "cOMe iN aS a HeEl" when he willingly got himself fired from a company *he helped start* because he refuses to turn heel.
He isnt going to come in as a heel, he's trying to be The vince style "babyface of the promotion" because cody thinks he deserves it because of who his dad was. Cody is fucking embarrassing to the Rhodes name. Even more than Brandi....
Whose here after watching Cody main event one of the greatest wrestlemanias of all time and recently have an unbelievable match with Aj Styles!? 🔴⚪️🔵
I think the neck tattoo is actually indicative of Cody’s propensity for half measures. I’m completely convinced that his initial intention was to get a THROAT tattoo, but he copped out.
@@troyuk8017 imagine actually believing this enough to type it out.
@@damonodell9125 Imagine being this naive about WWE, like Vince won't do it again 😂
Nah, his only intention was jingoism.
@Jamie M
Brock has a tattoo of a sword on his chest , not a dick. 🤦
@@jamiem2494 you wrong for that 😂
Vince:listen pal I'll hire you but you gotta remove the kneck tattoo and were going to call you bearcat star
Cody:okay vince I'll listen and obey 🤣
Also Vince: “My God, that’s an ugly neck tattoo! No worries. We’ll cover it up with the Stardust costume!”
That stardust costume is here somewhere
Cornnette saying Cody didn’t deserve cm punk money when Cody was the one who started Aew with the elite is one of the stupidest thing Cornett has ever said I’m glad Cody proved hi and every wrong ! Aew wouldn’t exists if it wasn’t for Cody those are the facts! Cm punk moxley danielson Jericho all work for the Company Cody Started !
Now Cody makes more than CM Punk ever did.
Loved Cody early on, until the neck tattoo and the QT Marshall feud I started to dislike him. I would’ve loved to have seen him against Adam Page for the world title as a heel but now if he’s coming back to WWE I just hope they’re pushing to try and make this guy somewhat above the midcard. This is the kinda thing that can give either show a shot in the arm after Roman wins every belt in the company and there’s no credible challengers left under 45
The Paul Heyman vs Brock Lesnar isn't anything new either. Brock beat up Heyman several times back when Angle and Cena were there and Eddie was alive.Stone Cold is still the greatest Wrestler next to the Rock . Lesnar is there just for easy money.
@@rejuvinatez347 Lesnar is honestly more credible than ever right now, he single handily made the Elimination Chamber match somewhat decent(Well, him and Theory). I just hope in the future they work out some decent storylines for him, he gets better on the mic(Which he kinda is) and more importantly find somebody who can be on an even playing field and have a decent match with him, instead of constant dominating beatdowns. The only thing I wish Brock would've never done was beat be Taker at WM, but I guess it set him up to be the company man he is now.
@gigistephens4633 cody beat Lesnar twice and all the crybabies in this comment section threw a tantrum over it.......
The stipulation that he could never challenge for the world title was what killed Cody in AEW. And that was done because Cody really wanted it (Toney apparently didn’t like the idea). After that point he slowly moved into the Codyverse, where everything he did happened outside of everything else in AEW.
He essentially handicapped himself. His opponents at that point where either talent they wanted to build or new talent that haven't established themselves so they can work a program before going on to bigger things. Turning heel was the obvious answer and trope to put himself at the top of the card. By not doing so, he removed himself from $ feuds like Punk, Danielson, Mox and others. From a business stand point its stupid to not put your biggest draws in feuds vs each other. Too much time spent on building up guys nobody would ever care about. (Ogogo, QT, Nightmare Factory)
That was such a dumb thing to do... Wrestling isn't that important to never book yourself to win a title...We like people that take the business seriously but that is taking it wayyy too seriously
Bingo, the Codyverse was born out of a need to find relevancy. Removing himself from the tittle picture also removes him from the feuds surrounding the title picture. Cody cemented himself in the mid card. Since the mid card title is necessary to boost rising stars, Cody can really only be involved there if he’s a transitional champ being used to enhance younger talent. That’s why we saw the “open challenge and the Ogogo feud. That’s Cody embracing it. After Ogogo Cody is kinda left in limbo, but birth of his child and a smattering of other things are taking place so it’s not noticeable. When Cody was ready to come back and they paired him with Malakai Black for his debut was when things finally came completely off the rails. The fake retirement, the random Brandi appearances, the Glock promo, the suit burning, the table spot with Andrade and finally the Lambert segments. The Codyverse was absolutely a nonsensical, convoluted mess, an amalgamation formed by the pieces/angles in which Cody used every trick he’d ever learned, and a few new ones too, to hold onto his “Thronebreaker”/wrestling revolutionary gimmick. This is the result.
If he would’ve turned heel he could’ve pulled back the world title commitment to expand his character as it would be the bad guy thing to in reneging on the promise you made. I always looked at him with respect for making that commitment but I was always disappointed that he couldn’t be involved in those feuds because I was always a Cody fan for better or worse.
Kenny Omega I think hit it right on the head. Cody's vision for AEW was totally different than his and the Buck's. Which means his vision was different than Tony Kahn's. Cody's writing was on the wall when Khan picked up the contract options on Omega, the Buck's and Jericho but not Cody last year.
We (critical wrestling fans) were saying this would happen the exact way it did when AEW was cementing, but nooooo! We were haters back then! 🤣
Cody has no good moves in the ring, he's boring. He doesn't have 1/16th the talent that Omega or the Bucks have. He's a boring wanna be wrestler from a ancient era of crap boring wrestling. He needs to go.
lmfao y’all eat that shit up as if we didn’t see omega and th bucks constantly throwing shots at wwe from japan prior to cody, or the fact that omega coined the term “e-drone”. all parties were in on it, and now that cody left that talentless hack has been throwing shots. and if it weren’t for cody none of them would be here full time
@@toastman4705 Omega and the young bucks have talent?
@@HBKStyles that guy is smoking crack if he really believes omega and the young twinks are a better talent than cody
Things that went wrong for Cody in AEW.
1. Neck tattoo
2. Having an entourage of 17 people everytime he made his entrance.
3. Bringing his wife to his workplace.
4. Rhodes to the Top.
Long meandering promos. (The US vs UK promo against Anthony Ogogo comes to mind)
5. Trying to do other ventures without solidifying his status as a main event in AEW. The Rock main evented multiple wrestlemania's before he pursued Hollywood
dont forget pharroh the dog
Cody has potential to have a good new run in WWE. I was watching pre stardust Cody… he was decent… If Cody has matured he might be a top guy.
Like McIntyre. Hate him or love him, Cody would instantaneously become one of the most interesting people in the WWE
He sucks, he's always sucked, he'll continue to suck.
he had a good chance to mature during his ROH/NJPW BC run. Didn’t do enough and he had all the opportunity in the world in AEW but he became some sort of tone deaf person a lot of fans who wanna support him turned on him. Me included.
@@newking70 it looks like Cody Rhodes & Jeff Jarrett have similarities.
@@sigmablock Cody hasn't matured, he's done the exact opposite. People don't mature by getting neck tats, for one thing.
WWE is doing everything in their power to help AEW. And now they've even taken Cody and Brandy off their hands. This is a really big win for AEW
But yet aew ratings are still sh.t
@@Randozyn4179 it'll take ages for any wrestling company to help people get past WWE's weekly brainwashing. Just look how many times impact died lol
@@theconnected7234 lol exactly
@@theconnected7234 totally correct on the brain washing aspect.
@@Randozyn4179 Pro wrestling ratings in general are shit. Mostly because people have moved on to other forms of entertainment.
Gone from AEW's first poster boy to not being used right to back to WWE where he left for not being used right.
Next stop , Billy Corgan.
He was hardly around he was always doing a bunch of other crap
And he won't be used right this time either. Nobody does.
@@IronDiva ppp
He was a decent kid to upper-midcard heel. Not everyone is or should be a world champion. The sooner y’all fans understand that the better
Jim, Cody already said in a interview that he came up with Stardust. He said Vince only approved it but Cody said he came up with Stardust. This was in a interview here on CZcams, right before AEW was created and recruiting its first roster around ALL IN.
His dad wrestled under a mask as stardust in Georgia championship wrestling. He did the mask gimmick twice. Stardust (bill wattd) and midnight rider (crockett)
The man desperately wants to be better than his dad, but will literally never be. A loser to the rhodes last name
Absolutely brilliant promo work at the end ! Thank you Jim Cornette for the masterclass!
You know Uncle Dave just had a heart attack with Jim saying Cody is a better wrestler Omega.
Anything negative said about Kenny. He ignores and defends him instead.
We've seen Cody against other big stars outside wwe. It was dogshit
@@TheTalk23 Jim is the exact opposite though - ignores any good stuff and buried him. I’m not a major fan of Omega or a major detractor but Jim and Dave are just opposite sides of the same coin in respect to Omega and I wouldn’t take either as objective voices on him.
@@wanmanrmy As an objective voice, Omega is a pretentious bit of spotmonkey luggage categorically impossible to take seriously as a main eventer.
@@Dr170 like I said, I’m not a massive Omega fan - there’s things he’s good at and there’s things that aren’t to my personal taste. I was just saying the Dave and Jim are just opposite ends of the spectrum on him.
Also it’s a subjective thing rather than being objective. It’s all opinion (mine included).
"Nobody loses their first match on TV. It's the stupidest thing. It's never happened for a reason."
Karrion Kross: 👀 ha.
NXT wasn't on TV 😂😂😂😂
@@attitudetv92 He lost on RAW
@@DarkNorthEmperor I know 💯
Who?
Rvd tna
This a was a horrible take that aged like milk. Rare Brian and Jim L
What do you mean by rare? Ls are very common with these 2 simpletons.
He was wrong yes but no one though that Cody would be the biggest star in the business 2 years ago. Like they said he was getting booed out the building two years ago
@@RonJP-pm7jp Cody believed in himself and the wwe audience accepted him immediately. It was the aew fanbase booing him out of the building
@@donaldwalker6909 that’s true.
@@RonJP-pm7jp but your right i don’t think any of the wwe audience knew just how big a deal he would become for sure
Cody came back better than ever to the WWE. 🤷🏻♂️
About time Jim speaks on this. Waiting all week.
All week long I’ve waited for this… I wish Jim had a reality show or at least would post audio and video of him on the phone with a customer service representative for a company 🤣🤣🤣🤣
...."THANK YOU! FUCK YOU! 'BYE!" (slams receiver)
Well there may be 1 or 2 videos out there of him engaging in intense negotiations at fast food drive-thrus ...
listening to this today, it’s crXy how wrong jim and brian were and how bad cody was spotlighted in aew back then 😂
My buddy sent me a CZcams clip of Kenny omega on meltzers radio show talking about Cody leaving. And the tone in his voice and everything his says. Gives me the vibes of a prissy know it all high school cheerleader antagonist. Lol has me literally saying “fuckkkkk you dude” aloud haha. Basically said cody is out of touch cause his vision wasn’t the same as Kenny and bucks.. crazy situation.
The hilarious part to me is that cody was upset he lost booking power so his idea is to go back to wwe lol
Still Just rumors at this point… he’d be better off in IMPACT rn
That’s the part that should’ve given away this being a work. If Cody was really leaving because he lost his power, attempting to acquire ROH would make more sense.
Well think about this. Say youve been at your job for a few years, and you company says, sorry Chris, we can't give you a raise or a promotion. Wouldn't you leave if another company gave you atleast one of those? If he's making significantly more than he is now, why wouldn't he take it?
@@hamzabajwa1960 I get what your saying but your going back to the place that made you stardust
@@TreySarver Cody don’t got enough Money to buy ROH he’s already went to Impact WWE best move for him
Can't wait for the Cody & Brandi Rhodes omnibus! Cody is truly AEW's fallen hero.
The irony of cody. A spectacular takeoff only to spectacularly blow up like the challenger
@@uriblaketheriddimprotege "Don't mention the Challenger, kid."
Aged like milk
Just goes to show what good booking and proper showcasing of talent can do.
They took a Cody Rhodes who was being Boo’d out of AEW buildings, to main eventing 2 separate Wrestlemanias and becoming the top champion.
A serious testament to the difference in how both companies take a wrestler and accentuate their qualities while hiding the weaknesses.
AEW founding/creation was easily the biggest thing that Cody has ever done in wrestling. If it does become legitimate competition to the WWE for the next 10-20 years, he will be remembered as the guy that jumped ship and not a pioneer in US wrestling.
he's already a pioneer on account of being the first WWE guy in modern history to make a name for himself and raise his value
@@hardcase2080 Cody started AEW. Tony Khan and The Elite just rode Cody’s wave, but at the same time Cody was never and will never be THAT guy sad to say.
@@hardcase2080 Cody RHODES hardly gets credit for making a name for himself. Bury this midcarder Vince.
His biggest chance was when he was the most over guy in AEW. Then what does he do? He loses in the World title match and can never wrestle for it again. Then he goes away to do c level realty tv.
In 2019
Brandi probably wanted a multi million dollar contract and Tony didn’t want to give her more than she’s worth, which is a dime.
That's being generous
Hey give a sista a break geeze.ha ha
She’s never drawn a dime… not a dime.
@@bbaazz17 but you got to admit she was a dime piece...
Same with Cody, he is boring in ring with no moves.
The best breakdown of this saga I’ve heard so far. As usual, Corny and Brian made great points, dropped some good jokes and pulled no punches in discussing the shitshow spectacle that has become Cody Rhodes. Well done gentlemen.
ooooh Corny please notice me senpai i love you so much. as usual you make great points, drop good jokes and pull no punches daddy. WELL DONE GENTLEMEN.
God you’re such a simp for Corny 😂
“WELL DONE GENTLEMEN, PLEASE BE AWARE OF ME! I WANT YOU TO KNOW ME SOOOO BAD!”
1 year later and they couldn’t be more wrong
@@baseballno3214 the reason Cody Rhodes is successful in WWE bcoz he felt fresh,when he came to WWE. it was boring to see others wrestlers (not boring) but it was like a fresh of breath air ,when he came back..few aew wrestlers come to know WWE and boom,it will be watchable again..
What a time to hear Jim rant between this and hopefully them covering the wrestling observer awards on the drive through, it’s a great week
to be a Jim fan!
Can't wait to see him chasing the 24/7 title.
This joke is dumb, that will never happen
I hope not !
It may not be the 24/7 title exactly... But they are going to BURY Cody
@@SaunKrystian He is gonna job to Roman for sure
Cody needs to team up with R-Truth and go for the tag titles baby.
I know Jim's biased, but Jericho's name still means way more (inter)nationally than Cody's does.
Yes, the Rhodes name is special, but it needs to have "Dusty" in front of it if he wants Punk/Y2J money.
Agreed, Jericho is a household known name.
yeah Jericho has headlined mania, multi world title reigns
Who cares now about Jericho in 2022? The guy literally lost so much of his starpower while Cody is red hot
@@Ghost-Face420 Cody being red hot, lmaoooooooo
@@xlixity same as you saying Jericho’s name still means something, LMAO, the Jericho Appreciation Society is definitely hotter than Cody in the WWE rn😂😂😂 yea right
Crazy how things have changed in a year
Crazy how things have changed even more in the 3 months since you commented this.
And changed even more so in the three months since you replied.
And changed again since that, he’s our Champion now. What a ride!
Lol this has aged like milk
I've been waiting for this, and I'm glad they are making a Cody/Brandi Omnibus. Now we just need a Codecademy Omnibus.
I think there IS a Codecademy omnibus.
@@bradpaton3927 there’s a commercial omnibus that has codeacademy, manscaped, helix, basically all the best bits from 2021.
I will never in a million years grasp why Cody chose to cling for dear life to this unsalvageable "babyface" run, when he had potential gold sitting in his lap the whole time. At least when Sting refused to go heel during his run in TNA, people still liked the guy, so it could at least be somewhat justified from that standpoint. We could have got corporate heel Cody using his "EVP powers" to go back on his promise to never challenge for the world title, and receiving genuine nuclear heat as a result; instead, he insisted on matching up with all these "up and coming" midcard heels in aimless stop and start programs, only serving to take all their heat for himself, which benefitted absolutely nobody.
The big show has shown you can always go back to face after turning heel.
He screwed up a loooooooot of money and ratings being an idiot and not turning heel
Cody isn't a fool, save it for the big show.
You're all getting worked, he will be returning as a corporate heel, under a Turner broadcasting contract, he'll be their man in the company who Tony has no control over, it's gonna be like the reverse of Austin and McMahon
@Why The Hell Was I In Star Trek 6? cm Punk drew the highest buy rate for a non WWE PPV since the 90's
I've been waiting on this all week long the input from Jim cornette and Brian!!!!!
I've had the feeling for some time that TK had become blinded by avarice with new acquisitions. Someone else said it was like he gets new toys and forgets the old ones. The Bucks, Omega, and Cody had an idea and got TK to fund it, but very quickly it was obviously a "my money, my decisions" situation. AEW should also have pushed the talent who took part in the tapings before the pandemic lockdowns a lot more. Instead they're all on Dark or only appear on Vlogs.
The problem with your scenario is that most of the talents before the pandemic were not ready for television. And to act like the Bucks and Omega have been mistreated is laughable at best. All three have been champions and the only reason Omega has been out of the title picture is because he's been gone for injury purposes. In my opinion, Tony needs to focus on CM Punk, Danielson, Moxley, MJF, FTR, Darby, Sammy, Santana/Ortiz, Miro, Black, Red Dragon, Cole, Switchblade, Team Tazz, and a few more people that I'm sure I'm forgetting. All the dark and elevation talent can stay where they are...off tv.
@@jthom0027 Jay Lethal's in the CZcams camp, unfortunately....
@@bradpaton3927 I know. He needs to be brought to tv. I don't even mind if he's used as a "jobber to the stars", its just such a waste of talent to have him on youtube.
They were nothing but a bunch of outcast mudshow fucks, with no real star power or real talent..... Glad the little runt Marko Stunt has gone and Big Swole. too.. The Dork order just awful...Abadon and almost the entire female roster has got to go... ! The acquisition of the WWE guys was a good move... more who become free agents would be great!
@@bradpaton3927 WTF! Was that all about, proves Tony Khan knows fuck all..... You bring Leathel in to job for Sammy and Starks bad move.... He should have beaten Sammy for TNT belt .. Yet Cody returns to easy beat Sammy... Tony Khan.. the best booker give me a break! He has no idea what's so ever, doesn't know how to build wrestlers or tell stories and angles...
MLW NWA is miles better than AEW ...
He also could be making a HUGE mistake, maybe we're all over estimating his intelligence and this is something he's going to regret in the long run and he ends up 4/5 years from now doing a KC Shoot about how signing with WWE was the biggest regret of his career.
Bruh Cody has enough money to burn it in front of you
@@foreheadnutz career wise, not financially. Vince can have him twerking and flossing in fuckin poka dots with the Stardust facepaint if he wants.
Yes I agree its Vinces company he can do what he pleases but for you to ignorantly imply that if this run doesn't work out he's gonna have to do KC commentary for money is laughable.
He also will instantly become one of the most interesting people in the company
@@gyrosplaterthat didnt happen.
I've been waiting ever so patiently for this upload! Thank you!!!
Same
Same!! This is better than any wrestling show.
Love getting Jim’s take on dealings going on inside the modern wrestling world
Thinking about Cornette’s rants about Cody in AEW. My all time favorite and I still go back to it when I need to laugh is Cody vs Sunny Kiss. The whole review of that match till this day is golden. LOL
No more workshop, no more Arn Anderson, No more Rhodes to the top 😂😂 that part made me cry laughing
If he just turned heel none of this would’ve happened. He would’ve been a top guy, he was getting heat every week too.
He wants to be AEW’s Cena
He was getting Go Awsy heat. I love Cody in the ring, but ever since he focused on the Codyverse AEW fans rejected him and to me thats the biggest reason why he left.
the sad thing is, he seemed to think he was babyface Dusty, but without the actually being over. lol
Bar none.
Cody is instantly your #1 heel leap frogging even over MJF.
And I would actually be confident in an AEW show worth watching. Him not turning made me groan because their storytelling stinks
The dude is a baby. Who wanted more money. Always about $$$. U HAVE ENOUGH MONEY! Fck Cody! I hope he turns into Stardust, 5 weeks into his return.
I can't help but wonder if Cody left because of the direction he saw the company was headed. They managed to pull in Punk, Danielson, Cole, etc. etc. but the only time they manage to pull in ratings is when one of those new wrestlers debut.....
I believe Razor Ramon was making $200K back in the 90s and Bret Hart was making $1M when he went to wcw. So I don't blame Cody for trying to get paid. I would do the same.
Wow! This prediction turned out to be completely wrong
Cody could be the one to get Ricky Starks, Powerhouse Hobbs, Wardlow, MJF & Sammy Guevara if the WWE wanted to start poaching the solid talent that AEW does have if they wanted to give him a duo job as a wrestler/coach.
WWE doesn't want those jobbers.
@@newking70 It has already been reported WWE wants MJF and Wardlow.
That’s probably the biggest reason they’re signing him. They now have a direct pipeline to AEW through Cody. MJF is doing great now feuding with Punk but next time he’s stuck in a dead end feud like Jericho’s he will have Cody in his ear telling him he could do better elsewhere
@@user-sj3lz7pd1n Problem is that THOSE guys are gonna get Punk money. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony sees the money he saves by leaving an unpopular, noncommittal wrestler as insurance for MJF and Wardlow. Those are the big ones that Vince wants. No way he sees past Guevara's size, and we know CM Punk and FTR aren't going back.
@@elmagnificodep there not getting mjf aew will give the house for him to stay
This is gonna be a good one 😎 I was about to watch the undertaker hall of fame one but once I saw this I had to click
The way how I see it is Cody having a run in WWE is actually helping Wrestling as a whole.
I believe he's going for a run with WWE and not Full Time so he can reach that "worldwide star" status...
Then he might return back to AEW in the somewhat future and if he does that would explode!
I REALLY REALLY Hope thats what ends up happening.. That'd be the best possible outcome at this point, atleast in my humble opinion
Guess who won that exchange.....months later AEW is falling apart.
Brian has too much of a problem with cody too see the value that cody provided within his time in aew
What value did he have if he isn't there anymore lol
Yea as much as Cody annoyed me sometime, he is the creator of AEW, he became a main eventer and wrestling fans see him as a big deal. And he's the son of Dusty. I would not be shocked to see Vince give him a mega push.
I mean his opinion is based on the last year of Cody which was all bad.
@@foreheadnutz the fact that there's been so much news coverage and rumours around this attests that its a big deal, therefore he was valuable in aew. If nothing else the tnt belt is established with 2 years, however i believe he was much more than that
Why does Brian Last think he knows more than Cornette? Every time Cornette tries to drop some knowledge, Brian is like "No, no, no. That's not it, Corny. Let me tell you what it really is"
Dude is a fucking nobody. More often than not he drags this show down
It's all opinions. Neither of them are necessarily correct.
@@SpaceGhost92 he's good...
Brian Last saying who would want Cody Rhodes in AEW for that kinda money like he wasn’t holding back tears on twitter when the news broke
Here we are a year later
Damn and he is the main event of wrestle fucking mania boy they’re wrong lmao
Agree with Brian. Jim is giving Cody way too much credit here.
I think Jim has tried to give Cody every benefit of the doubt out of respect for Dusty. While I'm sure Brian respects Dusty as well, he obviously didn't know Dusty the way Jim does, ergo there's not an implicit bias there.
@@daleharris3809 That sounds about right
Cody isn't as bad as Brian makes him out to be. I do think Cody got a big head with the EVP position though. He wants to be like his dad in this business.
Cody wanted his own sports entertainment, got PWG with a big budget and left. He can go play Triple H now. 😆
@@daleharris3809 Last doesn't know anyone he just holds Jim's Mic , and for that Jim lets him go on a bit like he has any value to the show....
@2:29 Cody brought in Ricky Starks and Hobbs..and also, you can tell at one point when he stop giving a crap (when he realized he wasn’t in the main event title picture). After that, it was a ticking time bomb while he was elevating young wrestlers while also linking AEW to cancer foundations and charity work
He booked himself out of the main event scene very early on.
@@lungfulldrummer8921 was told he wasn’t in TK “main title picture”
@@starshipfame1 it was Cody’s own idea to put the stipulation that he may never challenge for the title into his championship match - which was completely uncalled for and was against TKs wishes.
That just derailed him entirely. What is he fighting for if he’s not ever going to be the champ?
I fully expect Starks and Hobbs to follow Cody to WWE when their seal are up, they've been absolutely wasted in AEW so far.
@@ian0143 Hobbs is in the ladder match on the next PPV so he's not dead yet. I agree about Starks though he's very talented maybe the neck issue has held him back
Cody with the turtleneck covering the tattoo Travis drawings are the best
Will Cody still be a judge on "The Big Show"? Will Brandi be able to have AEW wrestlers on "Cooking with Brandi" or will she have WWE wrestlers?
Cooking with brandi featuring roman reigns putting damn food on the table.
It'll be an orgy in the kitchen!
@@aadityasharma6855 lol 😂😂😂