Has Rolex Made A Big Mistake? HANDS ON The New 2020 Submariner
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Hands-on review of the 2020 Rolex "Cermit" 126610LV (Ceramic-Kermit)! I am comparing it to the discontinued Hulk, look into the measurements and how it wears on the wrist and also explore the question, whether or not this might have been a big mistake by Rolex!
A quick overview of the actual measurements:
Rolex Submariner Date 126610LV "Cermit":
Diameter: 40,5mm
Lug to lug: 47,6mm
Clasp: 18,83mm
Lug width: 26,7mm
Width/Thickness: 12mm
Rolex Submariner Date 116610LV "Hulk"
Diameter: 40,2mm
Lug to lug: 47,6mm
Clasp: 17,63mm
Lug width: 27,5mm
Width/Thickness: 12mm
What's your take on the new release? Let me know in the comments down below!
As always, thank you for watching my video :-)
- Jenni ❤️
The Submariner paradox:
'No one can get one,
But everybody's got one'
Ya man, I have been lucky to have anyone I want, but its only because I buy other watches from my local watch shop.
Example: Last week
Me: hey watch shop I want a Daytona
Watch Shop: Sure thing if you buy something else we can get you one.
Me: Ok I want a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Watch shop: Ok great you can pick both up next week 😂
Me: Wating list is a crop of shit
So true story and pretty shit in my opinion!!! #justsaying
Sorry for using the word "shit" 🙏🏻
People talk about the "exclusivity" of the brand. But in reality it is the most (and perhaps the only) common luxury watch. At least where I live you see them all the time.
@@mannycalavera2335 Yip I totally agree! That's why I don't end up keeping the Rollies for long, I prefer to have watches that are uncommon and only true watch geeks would know about 😉
The big problem is the there is no consistent rule across the different ADs for the “extortion price”. In some places, the price is more that a $15k blancpain.
Everyone has a fake lol that’s he best u can get lol
A lot of people said “Yuk” about the Hulk when it first came out. A lot of people did like the Kermit, but not so much the Hulk, it was difficult to move. The difference is, EVERYONE loves this new StarBucks - it’s a winner !!!
And that yuk didn't even last two years, as come 2012 and the hulk was the most popular and sought after sports model.
Rolex are killing watch collecting for the average collector. As soon as they were touted as investments it all went wrong.
Meh, there is nicer stuff to collect anyway. F.P Journe, Greubel Forsey, Roger W Smith, Philippe Dufour etc.
They don't care about the average collector, any more. They are no longer a watch enthusiast's brand. They are a luxury jeweler.
H171001 Those brands you mention are not comparable because they are top of the line and many many times more expensive. That being said Rolex is a beautifully made watch at its price point but nothing really special. When I wear a Journe it’s a totally different experience and feel but I still like Rolex for what it is.
@@Dennree99 Ok lol, so i wanna buy a FPJ CB or Resonance? oh u cant, same situation with Daytona/Pepsi. Ok I want a Dufour, oh ok, it trades a stupendous premium (worth it ofc). Just saying.
@@Bu-22 yeah, there's so many. I don't wanna just be a rolex hater but I don't like seeing them be so popular. I wish that direction went to omega, Nomos, dornblüth, and other cost effective accessible brands.
Headline. AD'S won't have it. Chrono 24 will have slews of them at double msrp.
Anyone caught flipping Rolexes should be executed on site. Just rounded up and shot.
more like triple!
Davidsw is selling one for $27k....this is a $9500 dollar watch for Christmas sake.
@@ChefPelle u actually believe people are flipping? ADs and grey dealers work hand-in-hand.
@@Prophet293 Not for the most part as any AD caught selling to a gray dealer or known dealer will be shut down immediately by Rolex.
A Cermit and a Hulk, while wearing a Batman shirt. You might gain superpowers from this.
I think the new Sub is intriguing dimension wise. Thanks for doing such a good review!
I am an experienced professional deep sea diver and a certified horologist. I can authoritatively confirm that the Rolex Submariner is the finest dive watch ever made. It is indispensable for me on all my commercial deep sea dives. I’m happy to have cleared up any confusion once and for all, in my capacity as a certified horologist and experienced commercial deep sea diver.
Who cares what you have to say.
@Magister Ludi Oh ok. Reason for name calling?
Guy walks into a Rolex AD and says: “I want to buy one of the new Submariners.” Rolex AD says: “ Well, you gotta pay now and it won’t be here for ten years.” Guy says: “Morning or afternoon?” AD says: “Why do you care? It’s going to be ten years!” Guy says: “Well, that when my Sky-Dweller’s coming in.”
😂
Nice Ronald Reagan reference 😉
😄😄
Good one, made me laugh out loud. 👍😜
fedor You are correct, sir!
Not a mistake, and not a ground breaking release. A slightly updated good quality Sub.
Better power reserve at least
It won’t really matter if it is a mistake cos it will be on a 10 year waiting list lol
🤣
"Bizarre strip club from a parallel universe." That made my day.
The new version is much more delicate because of the design and proportions of the lugs towards the bracelet. Also the green dial of the Hulk was amazing but not for everyone’s taste and after few days I could no longer wear it or look at it as it was too green so there is no mistake here to my opinion. Also I’m glad we have now a modern Kermit.
thanks for the great video 😊
“New” for 2020 doesn’t look very new
Still, people go nuts for nothing
Fully agree, the whole release is completely pathetic..
It’s a sub they can’t change a classic design by a lot
@@glenncaukill1320 Oh, don't fix what is not broken. I get that. We are actually talking about possible "NEW" releases and not only change of color and claiming the amazing innovation. It is starting to be as pathetic as "NEW" iPhone releases.
Don’t forget the new movement, wider glidelock clasp and bracelet, thinner lugs . And 1 mm
The thicker bracelet whilst making the watch appear more curvaceous actually looks ugly and now I think my 114060 actually looks more elegant in a weird way. CHANGE MY MIND!
I disagree, but you’re entitled to your own opinion and there’s NO NEED TO CHANGE IT
I own a Cermit and it wears so much better than the Hulk. More elegant lugs and hugs the wrist better. Reminds me of my old five digit Sub.
Just imagine how much buzz there would be if they actually released a new design...I mean don’t get me wrong it’s a good looking watch. But what did they really do? Discontinued one color, threw the same bezel on a different dial. Woohoo....
Wow, can we maybe not call it the "Cermit"? That's probably the dumbest one yet.
I’m a big fan of starbucks, but the cermit… ceramic Kermit or even the “new” Kermit I don’t like those names
Would it be possible to have videos about watch brands that are not Rolex? I do not understand why channels that say they are watch channels make videos only about Rolex.
Probably because Rolex released new watches 8 days ago and is very much de rigueur, But I hear ya regardless
BC HUXX is correct. I also understand your quandary. However, think about it from the perspective of a watch content creator. Rolex generates at least 5 times more traffic than any other brand when stated in the title. Once in a while, a channel releases a video that is not about Rolex because they are passionate about watches, but it will never generate as much attention, especially for smaller channels trying to grow. At the end of the day, Rolex gets the clicks.
BC HUXX other brands has released new watches like Fortis etc.
I think for having more views you need follow the Rolex sheep train ;)
I think the logic behind this new version is that the mega case has come in for criticism over the years for being to clumsy and the integration between lugs and bracelet not ideal. So Rolex have probably decided to slim down the lugs and improve the integration. By doing this the presence on the arm will have been reduced, so to counter this they have upped size slightly in other areas. So with a bit of luck and skill Rolex might have made it more elegant without reducing its presence. To top I up a better movement has been included.should be fine I think.
Personally, I'm calling it the STARBUCKS.
Yeah!
Rolex are now a fashion brand because they are so mainstream. Sick of hearing the word Rolex.. Its making my hobby boring.
Neil bingham status symbol not a fashion brand
Missed opportunity, should have worn a Hulk shirt!
This one time she wore a batman tshirt but the vid wasnt about the batman gmt at all. I bet you understand the frustration hahaha
BIG missed oppo
Probably a Starbucks one would’ve been more appropriate 😜
It’s a marvel/DC crossover
Rolex can't make a mistake. The name is too strong. They could put Rolex on a plastic watch and it would sell. I never understood the Hulk love. I had one and that pale green bezel is far too light. Not attractive at all in my opinion. I only regret selling it because I missed out on the money. I thought with the new one they would use the opportunity to make it darker like the Oris Hulk which I enjoy more.
Agree with you 💯 %
Can't stand the douchy rep they give
No matter what you have, it is no good because it is not a Rolex! How long can this strange phenomenon last?
@@tomchung3880 that's for the fashion conscious brand wearing public.
They said that about GE once upon a time. I hope I live long enough to see Rolex enjoy the same fate.
I think you wrote the opposite of what you’re saying at 3:52
Noticed that as well and headed to the comments to see if it was mentioned...
What she said is correct, the text is incorrect. Although what she forgot to mention is that the lug width changed from 20mm to 21mm.
Thanks, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS
Haha, i am looking for the same in the comments, so Cermit should be 26.5mm, and Hulk is 27.5mm?
@archie baldwin lollllll cermit is 26.5mm Hulk is 27.5mm Boldwin
So sad, Rolex is now officially the most "gutless" and boring watch brand around. New models? Basically a marketing play and colours.
If Rolex began as Rolex is now... There wouldn't BE a Rolex now.
@@UGA.D So true. It has such a strong brand that it can easily afford to try some new innovations and creativity. Which I believe would then drive the whole industry forward faster.
BUT, that's exactly why they are so popular. Simply because they have NOT changed anything radically in their products. A 1970 Datejust is basically, visually, a small 2020 model. The Sub has remained visually unchanged for its long duration. The new OP colours (OK, I'm with you on this one.) are radical for the brand but remember the popularity of coloured dials in the 70's, also realise that this will be BIG in the Asian market. Gutless and boring? Maybe so. Marketing play? They don't care about that. They are all about tradition and confidence in their brand.
@@allan2098 Not changing a design does not make something popular. They're popular because so many people want to have something that few others can get so they can feel superior to other people. Go back and listen to this week's HODINKEE Radio (Episode 103). Ben Clymer, himself, says (at 5 min 47 sec) that you buy a Rolex so you can tell your friends "I got this and you didn't". That is why so many "secure" people feel like the majority of Rolex owners are "condescending jerks". We're not jealous of you... We're LAUGHING at you.
@@allan2098 You are one of the very few that gets it. Spot on.
Your shots have that same amazing Watchfinders production quality. Looks great! Is that due to certain camera gear, or is it the post processing?
They have an actual studio with lighting and good cameras.
No amount of editing can give this quality...unless you're doin' Hollywood level VFXs
Watchfinder actually helped us in selecting the right gear - so a big shout out to them. Still it's a mix of both! The biggest advantage of good gear is you can fix many things in post - but with all gear you are better off if you just film it right :-D Thank you for the nice compliment!
Kai von WATCHVICE wow that’s awesome that they’re helping out what might be considered a “competitor”.
joshsvoss yeah, they’re great!
The movement was a great move. The "41mm" case? We can live with it. But 21mm lugs? Simply unforgivable.
After nothing been done to the Sub for over a decage it was long over due and a given. That was one thing you could take for absolute granted. If they didn't get a new movement in there now the Sub would be dead from competition by just about any other luxury watch brand that carry divers with more precise movements and better power reserves, i.e. Omegas Seamaster.
@@eiriknss3727 I agree that the Sub needed a refresh but it's a move in the wrong direction. Should've kept the 40mm diameter and the 20mm lugs and only changed the movement and the thin lugs.
SlapShotRegatta On the 21mm lug Everest and similar will have custom fit straps that fit (for the few people who take off the awesome oyster bracelet).
I’m Done with Rolex, I have a 16570 Polar and a 116610LN and that’s all I’m buying from them. Way too much games and BS , time for a Speedy
Love the color contrast on the cermit
"Prices are already soaring" ... "that is the whole problem" ... no, that is the whole point.
Rolex technically shouldn't be seeing any of the profits unless they're just selling via the grey market which would be a huge scandal
@@dsq141 They're a not-for-profit charity. Look it up.
Just buy a gold bar😁. It is just as boring in look and that's going up too.
UGA.D may I correct you, they are all about profit. A charity yes, but one that doesn’t donate much to charitable causes. The profits are reinvested into the business/charity to make Rolex financially stronger. I imagine it’s also a tax dodge.
@@Anonymouslyme1 I think you just supported, rather than corrected, me. But you are correct in how they operate.
I’d rather buy a Tudor Pelagos than a Rolex Submariner....... that said I do own a 16600 seadweller but that’s only because I couldn’t stand the hype and over inflation surrounding the standard Subs, let alone that of the likes of the Hulks and Kermits. Prices are stupid for these watches now and Rolex doesn’t seem to care about the grey market and in fact are part of the problem in the grey market due to the way the ADs treat customers.
I love Rolex and my Rolex watches, but I will stick to the older models.
Tudor is what Rolex was.
Love your videos!! Finally somebody provided a lug to lug measurement on the new Sub. Thanks so much!
If this isn’t nicknamed, the “shrek” for the memes then I’m gonna lose it.🤨
Doesn’t really matter. When Rolex does make a “mistake” it becomes an immediate collectors item. They cash in on EVERYTHING!
They don't cash in on gray market sales. The flippers reap that benefit.
Arvin Arakelian I agree, crazy isn’t it? Rolex limits release to keep customers from flipping for profit and the real customers are penalized on both ends.
@@domenicpellegrino4907 You think they limit release in order to prohibit flippers from making a profit? That isn't it at all. In fact, it's the opposite. If they wanted to limit the ability of flippers to make a profit then they would release more of them and that would instantly take away the profit in the market. Limiting the availability is exactly what creates the ability to make a profit. The reason they do it is to create hype. They do it to create something that is desirable that you can't get. It helps their brand. They protect their brand above everything. They don't really care about the flippers as much as you think. In fact, all of that hype and talk feeds back into the relevance of the brand. They don't care if people are mad at them for limiting supply, they only care that we are talking about them one way or the other. Irrelevance, and indifference, is the death of any brand.
Actually they lose. The can’t cash in on the grey market and they’re losing out on potential sales because people are purchasing other brands. This action raises the market value of another brand. AD are getting caught selling to “preference buyers” too. The waiting list is bogus. Rolex has an open investigation on their watches immediately showing up on the grey market. Zeroing in on the AD with the most turnover.
@@ScubaSteveCA Omega puts out more watched than Rolex and is not as profitable. Rolex works on scarcity which is key for their profits (despite making a million watches per year). They're not worried about losing money. They're the Ferrari of the watch world and no one who wants a Rolex will pick an Omega over a Rolex. It's like saying someone really wants a Ferrari so they'll settle on a Lamborghini. Is the Huracan a good car? Yes. Is the Huracan an F8 Tributo? No. The brand name is everything.
The old green on the original Kermit wasn’t great. I like the new tone. I’m not gonna complain about sizing though, it’s just too big for me personally.
A. B. I literally said I wasn’t complaining... the old sub was too big for me as well.
@@1517the_year Actually, you *literally* said, "I’m not gonna complain..." No use being literal if you're not going to be literal.
DeanUGA I’m being honest here, are you dumb? Where did I complain? I just stated the watch was too big. That’s not a complaint, it’s a statement. I can’t help with your understanding of the word literal.
All I wanted was slimmer lugs, so I'm happy! Can't wait to buy a San Martin with slimmer lugs soon.
HA HA HA!!!!
The new LV isn’t polarizing at all??? It was released as a instant “Rockstar”. I have owned the Hulk for 3 years and it was too much green for me. The green was overwhelming after awhile. The new 126610LV “Starbucks” is THE new Rolex to own. It’s stunning and the contrast between the gloss black dial and green is far more dramatic than the all green Hulk. I also found the 126610LV much easier to live with if dressed up or casual attire. Case design and bracelet are a nod from Rolex correcting the mistakes in the last Submariner Maxi-case generation. “Perfection” is what the new Starbucks LV has restored to the Sub line up and is a clear modern linage to the original LV 50th anniversary.
There was a time when those who had a Sub would wear it everywhere, even swim with it. I did and still do. Nowadays people buy them and keep them in the safe. Come on! “Start living or start dying”
Couldn't agree more. What a bunch of sad people. It's not even 10k. Live your life a little and don't worry so much about a few dollars. Resale value is not any criteria of mine when purchasing a watch, as I intend to keep them forever. "Investing" or making a quick buck in watches is a waste of time and time consuming. There are literally thousands of other and much easier ways - than to suck off corrupt ADs and play their silly games - and make all the money you ever need and much more and buy watches like AP, PP, VC, BP and other brands that makes Rolex' watches look liky shiny turds.
Valuable and ver helpful video dispelling doubts, fears and suspicions !
Mistake? Rolex is a brand of such status and fame and such devoted followers that even their mistakes work in their favour !
Once again: important and valuable video !!!
Great fact-based review here, Jenni! I think Rolex has made a distinction without a difference here with the "new" Submariner. To me, I think it's a bit sad that they are producing fewer dials and therefore saving money there but then moving prices higher. Feels like a cheap move to extract more dollars from customers rather than to put any real effort into the art of watchmaking and generating excitement that way.
I'd take an Omega over these any day of the week and twice on Sunday. They look better, fit better, are made better.
Seems like Rolex has been run by investors instead of watchmakers for a long time. As you point out about Omega, better watches for cheaper prices are readily available, so there's no reason to obsess over this...if someone thinks spending 10+k on this instead of any number of better watches, then I feel sorry for them.
The Submariner has being my dream watch and of course unioptainable for so long that I went for the Seamaster 300 M. And today for the same amount of money that is a Rolex you walk into and IWC AD and you get out with a very nice watch in your wrist. This is only my opinion, what you guys thinks, cheers
thatotherguy I’m curious, why are Omega watches better than Rolex?
@@tomnewham1269 For less than the price of a submariner you can have a far superior (performance wise) seamaster. The whole brand recognition, resale, prestige, etc factors muddy the waters, but from a purely technical standpoint, the Seamaster is superior.
thatotherguy why is Omega technically superior?
Finally someone doing a real review with measurements! Thanks for the good review 👍
The best thing of all of this is? Guess what? My Hulk went through the roof!!!
HULK SMASH!!!
😐
If you leep it, practically doesnt matter how the prices develop
The truth is that buying a Rolex is totally fine but paying over MSRP is insane. People just want to show off they can have one.
While angriest Submariner purists will remain implacable, I reckon your measurement findings extinguished a few torches in this community, Jenni. Nicely done!
I personally much prefer the newer case. Because it is back in the direction of the pre-maxi case.
I never liked the maxi cases. I think they could have gone even slimmer with the lugs, but what they did is certainly a big improvement.
Somewhat strangely because it’s more like a previous version. Which had the perfect design proportions.
As far as the “Kermit” goes, I guess it’s half-a-Hulk. I don’t think it’s a great color combo. I do like the all-green of the Hulk. But still hate the maxi-case.
Rolex's modern, stupid games take a sh!t on their legacy as far as I'm concerned. There's pre- quartz "crisis" Rolex, which commands respect, and post quartz "crisis" Rolex, which makes me feel sad for all the people still drinking the kool-aid and shelling out $6K MSRP for a simple 3-hand watch in steel.
12k if you actually want one
@@Jay-xr3sb Hear, hear.
Rolex prices are something akin to Bitcoin prices in that the real value of the product does not have much to do with its selling price.
Thats why you buy Pagani/San Martin homages, or even better if you want a real watch, TUDOR, OMEGA. Rolex became normie with all the rap songs recently, so now all the millennial shithead smooth brains are spending their entire net-worth to be cool.
Hardly a mistake, Rolex still sells well to say at least… I think the new LV looks very good. But I prefer the green dial / green bezel. Things change though…
Please don’t start calling it a ‘Cermit’.
It’s double stoopid
Too late... hearing it everywhere. Groupthink... but from idiot minds.
@@UGA.D Great 🤯
@@mikecassidy1623 👍
@@MichaelBath Right? I'm gonna call it the "Lizard Nipple" since we're making up stupid sh!t.
Bravo, Jenni! Very much my thoughts! I’m happy to get new Hulk just before new releases...
Am I right in saying the handset was also changed, beefed-up..The hour hand looks ever so slightly fatter? Great review! And no you can’t say look but don’t touch..ha ha..well done..🤣
Thanks for actually measuring things and not being a corporate shill
I don't get the fuss, they have been updating lugs and colors from day one, this one will sell just as well regardless of the alterations to base Sub, no one gave a flying fajita about the Kermit back in the days, and neither did anyone about the Hulk (quoting my AD "you couldn't even give them away for free"), only now that we are at the peak of watch hype a new release gets this many opinions that result in the same conclusion
people will buy it
gotta say, I am already looking forward to seeing this fad/hype culture cease, even if we are likely still a few yrs away from that to be the case
Marketing Club Hult 2014 agreed, buy the black original, it’s a classic and will stand the test of time
Noobs in the Rolex game can't fathom that just a few years ago a used Sub/Pepsi/SD43 was CONSIDERABLY cheaper than a new one and that you could walk into any major city AD and buy one of the shelf. Then the chinese started making money. Must have Rorex...
@@ChefPelle well that's weirdly racist
@@ChefPelle agreed, I for the first time bought one at MSRP at my AD this yr, whereas before, across Europe they'd basically offer you a discount to the equivalent of whatever the VAT was
I was told the same thing from several boutiques and ADs, around 16/17 mainland Chinese gobbled up whatever they could get, and since production was never increased this has created an ongoing supply issue, at least the automotive sector has understood this early on and opened production in China
Imagine 8y lists for a C Class haha
@@Newtypenewtype It's not racist - it's the truth.
I think this model is a good idea for somebody who always wanted a kermit but did not have a chance to buy it. With updated case and ceramic, it is a great combination to have new sturdy watch without spending ton of money for a mint kermit.
i'll go for Omega Seamaster" No Time to Die" 007 James Bond
It should be "I have no time to die waiting for a Rolex so I'm buying an Omega Seamaster instead".
Don Johnson if that’s what you’re into! It’s cool when they increase in value, but that is far from my main criteria when buying a new watch.
@@BrendanBoswell Viewing watches as investments is very problematic. Even Rolex's fortune will eventually change.
@@BrendanBoswell really sir? My bosses wears Rolex.. and i got an old classic seiko dive watch skx 007 😅. I chose Omega for style but in terms of watch value no arguements the Rolex for sure.
@@BrendanBoswell most of the people who like the watch they dont care about resale value
In the outgoing model, the smaller bracelet helps accentuate the chunkiness of the case. Hence, "Hulk" came to mind in addition to the fact that the dial is green. What a shame, this signature profile of Rolex is no more.
Green Lantern!! 🙌 🔥
Much to do about nothing. Love the update. Not sure why people would now abandon Rolex.
The new bracelet needed to stay at 20mm, it looks huge at the flanks
If the bezel isn’t a new/darker green, then I don’t like it near as much. The pictures in the catalogue look better. If it’s the same bezel, I’d much prefer the Hulk dial.
Yeah No, this is bad. Glad I got myself a Tudor Black Bay 58
I’m going to be honest, that’s a Great Choice 💯❤️ Tudor might start climbing up to make a huge market shock.
Real measurements!!!!! Thank you!!!!!! Awesome video.
Omega and G Shock all day.
I’m that guy too 🤓
Home run by Rolex. Way better than The Hulk. I've literally said to myself in the past, "I wish the Kermit was in ceramic. Hulk is too green for me." I could never justify the Kermit price with such a low build quality (vintage). But for the list price at least, I think the Cermit is very justifiable. And the slimmer lugs is exactly what Rolex should've done to their whole Submariner line and I'm honestly surprised they're basically admitting a mistake with the supercase.
It will only be a mistake if the Cermit ends up outselling the Hulk after an equal time on the shelves. 😏 As someone who wears their luxury sport watches more than most, I appreciate that Rolex went in the direction of the super case with bigger lugs.
Buy a Rolex to impress others. Buy others to impress yourself. Rolex is the most artificially overrated brand of all time.
Even Tudor is better at doing the “impress yourself” thingy
Errrrr no
Rolex doesn't make mistakes. But their customers do.
Rolex is pathetic, put a comma in the text of the dial and say: Run, we have something totally new, make the lines to buy but wait 2 years in this line !
How do people not see this and keep buying from this brand ?
Thank you! Exactly my words.
It's a fantastic brand. They merely make prudent, incremental changes. Thus, they product their brand and it's collectors. Your problem is with the fanboys and/or the market. Not the brand.
@@trevbarlow9719 It's with both.
@@UGA.D but why is it wrong for Rolex? If the design is truly "timeless", why make large changes to it every damned year?
@@trevbarlow9719 Don't give in to sophomoric naiveté. Rolex doesn't operate in a vacuum independent of their fanboys.
Rolex will always be king. Many people didn't like the wider lugs, myself included, and we loved the Kermit. So, the Cermit is no mistake. People can grumble all they want, but they will still lust after the crown.
Ooh look...the Emperor’s got new clothes 🙄
Rolex , in general, can do what they want and the people will always be keen to buy the latest model. This is just genius and as long as the market is crazy for their watches they are able to do what they want. I have owned most models during the last 3 decades and every watch was spectacular. To sit at the desk and have clever thoughts or advice is just not enough. Rolex doesn’t need all these channels where people tell the world why they should buy a watch or not.
At the end of the day it’s a question of taste and budget. On top there are plenty other brands to look for. But I have difficulties to understand the messages of this channel. The world doesn’t need them. 😉😉😉
1mm and half a mm - what a joke - everybody getting their knickers in a knot about .5mm - NOBODY will notice what you are wearing.....only WIS notice...
Practically indistinguishable from one another. I like the new 2020 version.
Jenni, didn't you put the wrong numbers up at 3:53? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
@Nicks She said it backwards. She put the correct numbers up though.
@@Hamburgerdad She said it backwards and numbers are also placed incorrectly
Yes I was confused at first too! But it's definitely the other way around. 1mm increase in the bracelet, but more than 2/3mm shaved from the lugs in the new one.
@@massx999 Oh is it? I thought everything was bigger. Thanks for the information!
Also feel as tho the 40.5mm bezel is a typo.
It overhangs the 41mm case.
Great video. The new one looks so much better!
Leftover green bezels and a much cheaper piano black dial and bigger price...hmmm..yeah.
Totally agree! Rolex cutting cost and raising the prices, people losing their asses for those watches. Same for the OP 41, they moved from 39 to 41, so they can use the same case as in the DJ, again cutting cost. People: "ohh yeah OP41 im losing my ass for one, lets post it on IG" hahahah.
Excellent video- addresses literally all of the things we would want to know and with humor. Great work as always!
Jenni, the real “BatWoman”!!!
So many better and more interesting watch brands out there,better value for money,who actually treat potential customers with respect....
All this hype for something that’s a simple color swap while I sit here content with the red-headed stepchild, the Rolex Milgauss
Who buys a Milgauss 😂
@@magicman9321 people who want to have not eye catching Rolex !!!
Mac U I guess
Love my Milgauss. And my SS Sky Dweller.
@@Mac_U Huh!!?? It's got a green sapphire crystal and an orange lightning seconds hand for Chrissake!
Still not understanding what the mistake was.. to update the sub? To change the color scheme? this new sub is perfect
How is the quality? Because I've seen a lot of quality issues with Rolex lately, with mis-aligned chapter rings and bracelet issues. Thanks.
Very good analysis. No arrogance or fluffing around, just sticking to cold hard facts. Thanks.
Increased price with a cheaper dial
And silly guys chase after
The new lugs and 41 mm makes it a better wearing on the wrist. The Omega SMP, however, went the wrong direction.
Why you're using "cermit" when it's "kermit"?
I think to distinguish it from the OG Kermit with an aluminium bezel, this is now the Ceramic Kermit, aka Cermit!
Ceramic bezel + Kermit = Cermit. It sounds terrible, and I cringed eveytime she said it. such a stupid nickname.
Cermit is all across the watch channels as the nickname for the new Kermit. Cer as in Ceramic bezel.
Do try to keep up guys!
Stupid name. It’s made out of 904L stainless steel not ceramic. Hublot, Rado and Omega make full ceramic watches. The fact that the bezel is ceramic is insignificant and not worth the bastardisation of the already-stupid name. Now it’s stupid squared.
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All anybody cares about are what these watches are already fetching on the grey market. Nobody cares less about the watch itself. A mm here a mm there a new movement a longer power reserve... zzz... the feeding frenzy is all about getting one at list, good luck, and selling it on for a massive profit. Personally I could care less I’ll stick with my previous gen 1 ceramic version its the last of the classic 40mm sizing. The new direction is just all about people jumping on the bandwagon and turning a quick buck. For the 41OP see above. The worrying thing for Sub wearers is that thieves may confuse your Sub for a 2020 model worth many thousands. Let’s be careful out there guys! Turning to JLC, Zenith, Cartier and so forth, enough of this nonsense...
Hahaha exactly! Nobody fxxking cares about what this green sub is made of nor what the movements are..... every asshole are just concern about how much money they can made by flipping the watch into the grey markets, after they purchase it from the ADs at retail price... rolex fans are all about money, who the fxxk cares about watch making skills and history. Scumbags! Btw, i am an insider in the dark world of Rolex. Who how when where what to do to get a Rolex Sub...
The previous model looks beefier, i think it's much more appealing and aesthetic. Lugs especially being wider to the end looks more well fit. The previous Hulk looks much more composed. Not to mention Hulk is way nicer than Kermit.
6:24 Rolex doesn't even need the people who are still with them since most of those who swore off the brand will instantly turn around and buy one if they get the chance. It's like the beautiful girl you swore off but then she's willing to go out with you and you're at her doorstep in 5 minutes flat. ;)
@archie baldwin That's what I'm saying
@archie baldwin You're an extremely ignorant person and you wish that was true. It says so much about you. You assume so much about me and you don't know me...but that's your problem, not mine. Enjoy your pathetic liphe.
I love the new green sub and ordered it right away.
cartier tank? we need that wrist check Jenni! :D
Great explanation...loved it... and yes Rolex’s politic is not good for Rolex lovers. They should stop making daydates and concentrate on steel sport, this would stop this ridiculous “grey market” prices...some people and ADs are taking advantage
03:44 is the other way around..... small mistake in the video, otherwise well done!
Was hunting a sub no date for awhile, but got a Starbucks as a gift and I absolutely love it. I like the black dial with the bit of green around the dial. As someone who wears a lot of black, it’s a nice way to add a bit of color to my outfit, without standing out too much.
The Submariner is so overhyped that is has become generic and boring. It's an icon, but these days my reaction when i meet someone wearing one is just "meh.."
If it's a vintage with unique patina and an odd ref. Sure. But the new ones just look soo boring.
We don’t buy them to shock or impress you, but for the love we have of it. So keep “meh’ing” when you see one.
@@alexhotmale I will. Thanks.
@@alexhotmale I love flipping them to fools....I mean fans.
Hi Jenni Elle, are you sure about the lug to lug size? Many said the lug to lug old vs new submariner are not the same.
I like the Supercase more...
I was afraid the 41mm would ruin it.. but im not sure anymore, i love that the lugs are slimmer, however thats just tricking my eyes because of the wider lug space maybe?
Personally i still prefer the 90s subs, i like the alu bezels ;P
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Bringing back a previous model seems to be a smart move. People loved it and there is demand for it. I bet they reintroduce the Hulk in 5 years. It creates demand. People miss it.
Its complete nonsense, the new Rolex releases were underwhelming (except the Skydweller) to say the least. Dont get wrong, I'm a Rolex fan, but this is just pure stupidity
Elephant in the room....updated Kermit.