Dave Grohl & Krist Novoselic On The Intensity Of Their Rise To Fame | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

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  • Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic, and producer Steve Albini remember the conflicting aspects of fame in the punk world.
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  • @amtreble
    @amtreble Před 7 měsíci +829

    Thank you for having Steve Albini on too

    • @user_01986
      @user_01986 Před 7 měsíci +41

      Has coveralls over his jeans like he was just fixing his car in his garage and decided to stop by for an interview.

    • @dustbinfilms
      @dustbinfilms Před 7 měsíci +36

      You can't overstate his importance to so many bands!

    • @grtxyz4358
      @grtxyz4358 Před 7 měsíci +13

      @@user_01986that’s his usual swag in his studio… and why not? Just wear whatever makes you feel comfortable..

    • @kuntbae3773
      @kuntbae3773 Před 7 měsíci

      read up on his
      love on CP. He’s a scum bag

    • @digger663
      @digger663 Před 7 měsíci +15

      It's Steve Albeenie

  • @Wifiler
    @Wifiler Před 7 měsíci +730

    What a great point Dave makes at 8:28. He didn't feel bad about success because the band didn't change to get there. They became successful doing what they did.

    • @Racer818
      @Racer818 Před 7 měsíci +28

      What they are all avoiding to say is the term, "selling out". Which is a misguided idea that gaining a larger and wider audience and success is somehow in conflict with being loyal to your art. OBVIOUSLY, there are situations where that can be true. But is that so wrong? Let an artist make their own decisions. And honestly to me, its just a form of a "scarcity mindset" when your a young punk who came from nothing. And you were never the popular kid in school. And you find yourself in a community that you fit into, and it becomes that community against the world. And then you see a band whose music is an ANTHEM to your community and plight, where they become successful and now are the COOL kids, there can be a sense of betrayal.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin Před 7 měsíci +7

      Well, they actually did change.
      They re-recorded most of the entire album, because Butch Vig heard the hits in several of the songs, abs wanted to make them sound better.
      Albini is integral, as he was there when they first recorded it all, and for future work, but they did change a bit for the album.
      I was a fan of Bleach, off a buddy turning me on to it, so I was stoked listening to Nevermind, but it took months before that video played, and everyone freaked out.
      The difference in sound, most likely didn’t matter for success, but Vig made some good choices.

    • @luisangelEXALTA
      @luisangelEXALTA Před 7 měsíci +5

      The Clash doing a disco type song comes to mind when discussing the culture of punk rock, i think certain musical journeys would get artists in conflicts with their original fanbase

    • @drewlittell
      @drewlittell Před 7 měsíci +5

      Yeah he says that but when you listen to Bleach and then Nevermind….the songwriting is much poppier, more accessible. And the production was totally commercialized and targeted to rock radio.
      Not knocking it! It’s an amazing record and Butch Vig is probably my favorite producer.
      But when Nirvana acts like they weren’t trying to get popular, I don’t think that’s totally honest

    • @MetallicaRocksss
      @MetallicaRocksss Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well Kurt DID feel kinda bad for the commercial success that made was

  • @jasonsalter65
    @jasonsalter65 Před 23 dny +30

    R.I.P. Steve Albini

  • @sianspherica
    @sianspherica Před 7 měsíci +406

    Having Steve on this podcast was such a huge asset to the entire interview.

    • @seamusburke639
      @seamusburke639 Před 7 měsíci +16

      This is probably the least acerbic I've seen Steve.

    • @reputablehype
      @reputablehype Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@seamusburke639 fantastic word

    • @bighendo7
      @bighendo7 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Where do I get the entire episode of this??

    • @seamusburke639
      @seamusburke639 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Rarely get to use it in a sentence.@@reputablehype

    • @ddust102
      @ddust102 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@seamusburke639 he checks Conan on a few things. I appreciate his realness

  • @design1of470
    @design1of470 Před 7 měsíci +216

    When Kurt passed in 1994, and the Unplugged record was delayed, then eventually came out - I never imagined that there would be a time when Krist and Dave would be comfortable enough to talk to anyone about Nirvana ever again.

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 Před 7 měsíci +27

      Took them like 30 years but I figure 30 years is a pretty good length of time to talk about something uncomfortable again

    • @headcreeps2138
      @headcreeps2138 Před 7 měsíci +28

      More like 20 years. They've been doing these sit downs since at least 2011.

    • @mountainsinmymind
      @mountainsinmymind Před 7 měsíci +23

      Nevermind 20th anniversary broke some of that ice, but I feel like the Paul McCarney collaboration and then the HOF induction seemed to finally help them get comfortable discussing the Nirvana experience (and performing these songs live again occasionally).

    • @Priasbcbeist
      @Priasbcbeist Před 7 měsíci +5

      One of the greatest albums of all time… “what are the tuning a harp?” Says Kurt 😊 RIP ❤🥀

  • @JoeyLevenson
    @JoeyLevenson Před 7 měsíci +431

    Man, what a cool idea for an interview. Conan could be the greatest of our generation of talk show hosts, in that he keeps reinventing himself and always he comes up with better iterations of his media. I mean 30 years on tv and then reinvents himself as a podcaster, and he’s still back on screens, with his assistant and producer as sidekicks. With still great guests. Genius.

    • @METTI1986LA
      @METTI1986LA Před 7 měsíci +13

      He is the best in my book!

    • @DaHamburglarGT
      @DaHamburglarGT Před 7 měsíci +12

      He's the goat for all that AND being known as a great employer taking career of his crew, preserving great people around him always.

    • @JoeyLevenson
      @JoeyLevenson Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@DaHamburglarGT Brian Stack, for one!

    • @wpeterwood4717
      @wpeterwood4717 Před 7 měsíci

      An absolute genius indeed

    • @LIamaLlama554
      @LIamaLlama554 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@DaHamburglarGTSir Jordan Schlansky for two!

  • @ImaginalComponent
    @ImaginalComponent Před 7 měsíci +535

    I am always super appreciative whenever Krist and Dave get together and talk the old days. I'm happy Kurt's songs persist in being helpful and relevant to new listeners all these decades later. Nirvana were the first concert I ever attended and while I readily acknowledge my biases as a fan, their progressive influence on culture in general has had huge reverberations around the world. I hope it continues for many more decades to come.

    • @noelang98
      @noelang98 Před 7 měsíci +10

      While he of course wasn’t there as long as the core three, I add Pat to that list because his perspective as the relative newcomer but how quickly he “fit in” (while adding his own flavor) helps complete the picture of those old days.

    • @wpeterwood4717
      @wpeterwood4717 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Breaks my heart Kurt is gone All the music we were robbed of and everything else That went along with his death Tragic

    • @robertbehof683
      @robertbehof683 Před 7 měsíci +7

      The comment/reply from I think it was Albini about anyone who attacked us as fakes and whatnot (my paraphrasing lol) came from a point of pure jealousy on their end as an outsider and not knowing even a sliver of what was going on and how much sweat, pain and effort you put into making your ‘craft’ is true about a lot of bands, artists, celebrities throughout the history of time. Perhaps it was so much harder in the punk scene and I believe it was as even going back to the 1960’s with the British punk scene you had the vitriol and hatred towards those ‘who made it’ but yeah you hear stories like this from almost every artist you can think of that hit stardom or superstardom that these stories are almost like a dime a dozen at this point. It almost always comes from a place of jealousy, shame and lack of self worth from those who are fans or who are other musicians that attack another band for being to as Grohl said just being able to survive basically. Another band that immediately popped into my head, actually another punk band, of having to go through and overcome this adversity of hatred and jealousy was Green Day only a few years later.

    • @grungegods
      @grungegods Před 7 měsíci

      Well said... and I know who you are btw!!

    • @justinblack1248
      @justinblack1248 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Truth!
      The band Jawbreaker, though still around today, were victims of this type of fan behavior. They were a Gilman St band that was supposed to be like Green Day, Rancid, Offspring etc, but we're denounced bc they signed a with a major label before "paying their dues" and was instantly hated by their fans for "selling out."
      Silliness.

  • @Axolotl_Mischief
    @Axolotl_Mischief Před 7 měsíci +41

    I played in my first band at 21...the thought of reaching Nirvana-level fame at that age seems unimaginable.

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Dave was a little bit older. The time period hes talking about he was almost 23. For me the difference between 21 & 24 was dramatic. It was probably my own creation. It was kind of forced upon me. When I was 21 I felt 17. I turned 24 & suddenly I thought I was 40. Made stupid decisions because of that.

    • @chilenapromedioRU
      @chilenapromedioRU Před 4 měsíci +4

      Kind of makes one understand why John Frusciante (from RHCP) had to quit in 1992. He joined at 18 to an already established band and at 21 the band had Nirvana opening for them. Kurt, Krist and Dave were all playing from a few years but the amount of exposure that came along with fame and success, must have been very stressful.

  • @andresbarriga5305
    @andresbarriga5305 Před 7 měsíci +173

    It's amazing to me how Kris' voice and mood has been the exact same trough the decades. I love that dude so much.

    • @chadgrov
      @chadgrov Před 7 měsíci +42

      He became a lot quieter and more forlorn seeming after Kurt died. Dave was more of an employee Krist and Kurt were best friends since high school. His death really made him less vibrant and happy go lucky. More reserved and quiet now. I always feel for him.

    • @andresbarriga5305
      @andresbarriga5305 Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@chadgrov That's also getting older. He seems very happy mostly to me. ut I get how the death of a friend can change you.

    • @reputablehype
      @reputablehype Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@andresbarriga5305 if you watch the Rick Beato interview you can see Krist really open up a bit more and be his old self

    • @ShinyFlakesShinyFlakes
      @ShinyFlakesShinyFlakes Před 7 měsíci +8

      He’s nothing like how he used to be. He used to be really funny and joked all the time. You don’t know what you’re talking about

    • @andresbarriga5305
      @andresbarriga5305 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@ShinyFlakesShinyFlakes Shush.

  • @BeeAyeSueRah
    @BeeAyeSueRah Před 7 měsíci +103

    I'm definitely an outlier here but I'm pleasantly stunned to see Steve Albini sitting across from Conan. Two worlds I never thought would cross and for that meeting to be filmed. Incredible.

  • @rizope4281
    @rizope4281 Před 7 měsíci +23

    LITERALLY. WHAT?? Conan got Dave AND Krist AND Steve on?! MAD respect 🔥

  • @elenaricci1498
    @elenaricci1498 Před 6 měsíci +12

    i love how krist still dresses so cool. and dave is always this chill grunge-y dresser. they are who they are. love that

  • @user-ln4zr4pz4f
    @user-ln4zr4pz4f Před 7 měsíci +41

    Nirvana played a little club in Madison which I played all the time. Lived about two blocks away at the time. My roommate then played me what he called "the greatest thing ever." About 5 minutes later they were HUGE. For a band to go from a tiny club to the biggest thing in music in a year must have been disorienting. Smashing pumpkins used to play there too and slept in the garage at the booking agents house. Couple others...Space Hog, Living Color, etc...Space Hog opened for us and I recall their sound check with my jaw on the floor. Nobody showed up and they had a huge hit about a month later. We gave them our door money for gas/food.

    • @zolfodor4835
      @zolfodor4835 Před 3 měsíci

      Cool story mate,what was your band called ??

    • @user-ln4zr4pz4f
      @user-ln4zr4pz4f Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hi Man, the name of the band was ARCANE. We recorded several times but couldn't seem to get things released. Guitar player took off to California with the master tapes and I moved to Austin Texas. Played with about 25 bands. It's easy for a drummer to get gigs in a town full of string twitlers. Phrase is; "Can't swing a dead cat without hitting a guitar player." I've been on the phone with a Texan this week trying to get me to move 2000 miles to play with him again. I don't want to move to the Northeast big city. Nice to talk with him again though. Think he has five albums out now but I'm old and tired. Sorry, got into the cups after work man B-).@@zolfodor4835

    • @zolfodor4835
      @zolfodor4835 Před 3 měsíci

      @user-ln4zr4pz4f ha ha no bother mate 👌👌 sounds like you lived the life & enjoyed the scene,good memories,it would be a big move for you to up sticks ??? I would love to go to Austin,one day I will & pay my respects to SRV,I,m an old drummer [ 54] from the north east of england,played a few gigs as a guitarist aswell,love all types of music,it's my life,always,my 2 sons play aswell & my eldest lives in New Jersey in the states,if ever you put anything on here regarding Arcane,let me know,would love to hear your bands stuff.

    • @user-ln4zr4pz4f
      @user-ln4zr4pz4f Před 3 měsíci

      HAhaha = 52 and you are funny as hell my man.@@zolfodor4835

  • @dinosaursr
    @dinosaursr Před 7 měsíci +30

    Steve Albini's always well spoken and thoughtful, his metaphor using a runway as a precursor to life's stages is perfect. Glad to see him with Conan and the boys.

  • @bernlin2000
    @bernlin2000 Před 7 měsíci +80

    Absolutely, utterly delightful. I would have never expected Conan to be so knowledgeable/invested in Nirvana and its history, but then I remember: his Late Night show was the first time Radiohead appeared on late night TV in America...he's had a very long history with alt rock and grudge.

    • @juhaleskinen7383
      @juhaleskinen7383 Před 7 měsíci +9

      And Conan loves history and music in general.

    • @Furens
      @Furens Před 7 měsíci +2

      Conan's show was way ahead of its time in several ways. Even as a host, Conan's aggressive self deprecation and willingness to go into the absurd, whether as a bit or during an interview, are commonplace now.

    • @Throbbit
      @Throbbit Před 7 měsíci +3

      oh that grudge genre, lol.

    • @dailyflash
      @dailyflash Před 7 měsíci +2

      He's also a huge Beatles nerd and plays guitar.

    • @stephenkane2464
      @stephenkane2464 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@ThrobbitTHE GRUDGE

  • @ingyay
    @ingyay Před 7 měsíci +13

    my college had booked Nirvana for our Spring fling weekend. They were not the main act for the weekend and the fee was like $500. But the school also wanted to book Chris Rock who wanted more money than we had so they cancelled Nirvana to get the money to book Chris Rock. Then 'Smells Like Teen Sprit' came out. School tried to rebook Nivana, but their fee went to $25,000.

    • @thomaskinne2357
      @thomaskinne2357 Před 7 měsíci +5

      See? Now that, is an interesting story!

    • @rfc5544
      @rfc5544 Před 7 měsíci

      Don't believe you

  • @ExtremeBeatlesArchive
    @ExtremeBeatlesArchive Před 7 měsíci +245

    Conan getting that talk show as a complete unknown is a testament to the incredible power of Lorne Michaels...

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 7 měsíci +16

      It was also the late slot. The network has low expectations, so they’re willing to try something out. My guess is Conan did that show for peanuts for the first 3 years before he could negotiate a better contract.

    • @TheDevilsReject2785
      @TheDevilsReject2785 Před 7 měsíci +10

      ​@@atomicsmithYes and no. He was taking over for Letterman, so eyes were on him and that position.

    • @SKa-tt9nm
      @SKa-tt9nm Před 7 měsíci +2

      Conan’s job was to find a permanent host. When one “couldn’t be found”, he was given the job, somewhat unexpectedly.

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic Před 7 měsíci +4

      He wasnt A complete unknown at all. You have that very wrong.

    • @imjensen
      @imjensen Před 7 měsíci +1

      The influence that guy's had on pop culture and for how long is a bit of a mind boggle. What a life.

  • @doginconfusion
    @doginconfusion Před 7 měsíci +10

    Albini's choice of words is so characteristic of him! I love the way he expresses his ideas.

    • @nicholaskruger9460
      @nicholaskruger9460 Před 3 dny

      To bad he was such a extreme conformist and jabbbed himself up and busted his heart

  • @EarthWalkerOne
    @EarthWalkerOne Před 7 měsíci +24

    I absolutely love seeing Krist, I just wish someone would ask him about Eyes Adrift. I've been listening to that album 20-30 times year since it came out.

  • @Alexvidwork
    @Alexvidwork Před 7 měsíci +16

    Albini is such a legend - need a solo interview with him and Conan!

    • @eddiechinglives
      @eddiechinglives Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yes. Conan asking him about “My Black Ass” is comedy that writes itself!

  • @AriyahIOrton
    @AriyahIOrton Před 7 měsíci +52

    Dang, every time I hear these podcasts from these musicians u can really see how difficult it was for them at that time because no one would've ever known that they'd become so popular so quickly

  • @fauxpinkytoo
    @fauxpinkytoo Před 7 měsíci +59

    This band was everything for me. Not a week goes by I don't hear their music somewhere. I'm so proud of Krist and Dave and hope that Kurt is now at peace. Nirvana will never be forgotten. Thank you so much for this, Conan.

    • @maddymud
      @maddymud Před 7 měsíci +5

      they are the American Beatles

    • @ebn128
      @ebn128 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@maddymud nah they didn’t have enough time for that. But they were on the trajectory for sure

  • @LinzYoutube
    @LinzYoutube Před 7 měsíci +37

    I wish the full video episode was posted. This is such an epic interview!

    • @samjones527
      @samjones527 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Comes out monday

    • @wm1573
      @wm1573 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Already out in streaming platforms

  • @luisarellanes9898
    @luisarellanes9898 Před 7 měsíci +27

    Conan leading the conversation between everyone in this room is an absolute dream my goodness

  • @s.sgaming26
    @s.sgaming26 Před 7 měsíci +265

    Its time that OpenAI with their *TKP33X* is widely recognized if you dont know that already yet. 2024 and beyond will be different for everyone living and thats the first step into that direction.

  • @pandemic7
    @pandemic7 Před 7 měsíci +16

    I really wish Dave wouldn’t talk so much. It looked like Krist was about to say something and Dave cut him off.

  • @felipec.5403
    @felipec.5403 Před 7 měsíci +30

    L7 is another great band from that era that was produced by Butch Vig and Krist Novoselic even directed a documentary about the band! Go support L7! Let's keep the remaining grunge bands alive!

    • @clicheguevara5282
      @clicheguevara5282 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I'll never forget the infamous tampon story. Lmao

    • @MrSpeed-lt8gr
      @MrSpeed-lt8gr Před 7 měsíci +5

      I saw L7 open for Nirvana in 1993. It was Nirvana, L7, Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and a brand new band named Hole.

    • @johnrose6227
      @johnrose6227 Před 7 měsíci +2

      She's fast, she's lean
      She's frightening!!!
      There's a cool live vid of them with Dave on drums. I think he was dating the bass player and he helped them out with the show.

    • @justinblack1248
      @justinblack1248 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Down in North...Hollywood...there was a guy with...long hair and...he was really...really nice...

    • @SilentProti
      @SilentProti Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@MrSpeed-lt8grhow was Hole brand new when they already had a record? Aside from everyone knowing their singer was Kurt's wife, of course.

  • @mattorenstein3311
    @mattorenstein3311 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Krist is the bassist, not the guitarist (he’s listed as the guitarist at 2:58). Great vid, though, great convo

  • @jevans9359
    @jevans9359 Před 23 dny +3

    Thank you Steve! I hope that you’re hanging out with Kurt again.

  • @SaintMartins
    @SaintMartins Před 7 měsíci +3

    I was 20 years old when Nevermind was released in 1991 & 22 when In Utero was released in 1993. The perfect age to be during this time. I was young, good looking, crazy & stagediving at Nirvana shows.

  • @ChuckHipolitho
    @ChuckHipolitho Před 5 měsíci +4

    I was there with my 14 years when Nevermind came out, I saw a world changing completely. I am so grateful for the existence of Nirvana. It's amazing to hear Dave, Krist and Steve nowadays.

  • @larryb4598
    @larryb4598 Před 7 měsíci +42

    Nirvana is a very heavy band. I remember the grunge explosion because I lived it AND Nirvana was always up there with Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots. Nirvana albums still sound new when you play them. They never really went out of style.

    • @johnohrstrom5112
      @johnohrstrom5112 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Props for the STP call out...
      They don't get much love and often go overlooked.
      Not pure 'Grunge' but very much of the period.
      They made amazing music and get solid short because people called them rip-offs.

    • @larryb4598
      @larryb4598 Před 7 měsíci

      I love THE BIG EMPTY and SEX TYPE THING. great stuff! R.I.P Scott, a great frontman.@@johnohrstrom5112

    • @SKa-tt9nm
      @SKa-tt9nm Před 7 měsíci +6

      The big 5 were always nirvana, Pearl Jam, STP, Alice In Chains and soundgarden.

    • @manossteele1335
      @manossteele1335 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@johnohrstrom5112 while I loved the first album, I find I enjoy their follow-ups so much more. STP really showed their growth with each album, which I love.

    • @thomaskinne2357
      @thomaskinne2357 Před 7 měsíci +1

      How does one go about comparing. . . . . . . . . . Nirvana to The PJ or STP?!! Wow, interesting take. Like three COMPLETELY different bands/styles of writing. Those who compared STP to PJ in the beginning? Yeah, not so much.

  • @onechewtreefaw818
    @onechewtreefaw818 Před 7 měsíci +8

    When i was a teenager in the 90s, there were a few artists and entertainers who meant the world to me, who completely resonated with my artistic sensibilities and sense of humor, and helped me get through what was a really difficult time. Conan and Nirvana were at the top of this list, so seeing this interview some 30 years later is really special. Thank you Coco, thank you Krist, thank you Dave. Love you guys

  • @spookerredmenace3950
    @spookerredmenace3950 Před 7 měsíci +7

    what i love about Dave is he's so calm but also knows a lot , so smart about it all , hes an animal on the drums, great interview , cant wait to find the whole fully

  • @conorfurlong
    @conorfurlong Před 7 měsíci +24

    Kurt famously very much wanted Nirvana to be as successful as possible. He actively pursued it.
    He wanted to be on MTV; he would watch it avidly and, notoriously, he would call up MTV and complain if he noticed that Soundgarden were getting more plays then them.

    • @tracyjohnson5023
      @tracyjohnson5023 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Lol soundgarden is my fave, always will be. Bitd when MTV played music videos, we had never seen anything like that. Don kirshner and midnight special was it.
      Nirvana owes a lot to MTV and director of teen spirit. That's what really blew them up.

    • @babywah3290
      @babywah3290 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Amy Finnerty was instrumental in getting Nirvana played on MTV.

  • @broken_disco_ball
    @broken_disco_ball Před 7 měsíci +11

    If you look at Kurt's old journal entries, he was actually super ambitious and wanted his band to be successful. That's a fallacy that he didn't want to be successful.

    • @JackSkellington__
      @JackSkellington__ Před 7 měsíci +3

      Fame is relative. I’m sure he wanted to be known in his circles not the biggest band of his generation lol

    • @Gogs126
      @Gogs126 Před 7 měsíci +1

      'Being successful' does not equal being insanely world famous celebrities, like they became - and still are

  • @ellenhenderson6865
    @ellenhenderson6865 Před 7 měsíci +62

    If you watch some of the old Nirvana interviews, Krist seemed to really step up and speak for the group when Kurt was faltering, but he seemed to be protective of Kurt. Says a lot about Krist’s character even when he was young. Both Dave and Krist sometimes just had this look in their eyes of “Not sure if what he’s going to say.” Maybe I’m projecting. But those later interviews are quite sad.

    • @florete2310
      @florete2310 Před 7 měsíci +10

      True. Although a friend of mine and I were watching some old interview with Kurt approximately a year ago and we realized how far ahead of his time he was, mindset-wise speaking. Would've been interesting to hear his take on things nowadays. BUT - nevertheless - it is so great to have the band on the podcast. Team COCO is really firing off all batteries since quite some time now, it is amazing

    • @tomquinn2434
      @tomquinn2434 Před 6 měsíci

      I think much of what the band comes for, that is primarily ascribed to Kurt, really comes from Krist. Kurt tended to be more focused on emotion and experience. Kurt was most likely to talk about politics in interviews and was pretty well versed. He was often so funny that you almost missed how insightful he was. The pairing of Krist and Kurt, to me, was the core of why Nirvana was successful. Both in terms of interviews and on stage, those two were the foundation that Dave added to.

  • @leoamaya1818
    @leoamaya1818 Před 6 měsíci +7

    This to me is amazing. I’m genuinely feeling better by listening about Kurt & the band. Love it & it’s priceless so thank you guys. Rock on….R.I.P Kurt 🕊️

  • @Scoots1994
    @Scoots1994 Před 7 měsíci +29

    Some in the punk scene did go after bands who blew up. They were accused of leaving their fans. I saw it in Gilman St with Green Day. Some of it was certainly fans of one band mad at a band they decided was an "enemy" of their band being successful. That's not a scene thing, it's a fanatic thing.

    • @russallert
      @russallert Před 7 měsíci +12

      That nonsense pre-dates the punk era. There were people at the Cavern Club who got it in their heads that The Beatles had sold out and were turning their backs on the Liverpool fans when they moved to London and got hit records. John Lennon said that sort of mentality came from a later generation of Cavern regulars who hadn't even been to a Beatles gig there. And of course there are those rock critics who like to create artificial categories and presumptive ideals about what music and musicians should or should be (or think or play, etc.). Bob Dylan going electric is another example, and there are zillions more. It's outsiders living vicariously through certain bands.

    • @Scoots1994
      @Scoots1994 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@russallert True. Dylan is a good pull though that was a genre change rather than just being successful. I do think there is a parallel there in that Folk was sort of a niche genre like punk so they are maybe more protective of what is theirs ... it's maybe not so much the artist "leaving" but they are upset at the secret they thought they were "losing".
      I don't think it was EVER the other artists who were upset about it.

    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 Před 7 měsíci +4

      It happens in all genres when a niche band blows up.
      I still think that Metallica, for example, is the best band ever until The Black Album, which made them mainstream and not "thrash" anymore. I was a hardcore thrash metal fan when I was in high school. I *hated* it when pop music fans started liking them. LOL
      I accept them for who they are now, but when I listen to Metallica it's always pre-Black Album stuff.

    • @Scoots1994
      @Scoots1994 Před 7 měsíci

      @@thedude4672 I saw them live on kill em all, it's still my favorite. But again that's kind of a genre change.

    • @LIamaLlama554
      @LIamaLlama554 Před 7 měsíci

      Dylan is still a Judas for going electric.

  • @MaYstruction
    @MaYstruction Před 7 měsíci +10

    Let Novoselic speak, for Krist's sake!

  • @brianheriot8394
    @brianheriot8394 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Now compare this interview to the one Stern did with them where he would ask them a question and then didn't let them finish a single thought, so frustrating as you sat there wanting to know their answers only to get constantly cut off.

    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Stern is annoying. I don't know why anyone considers him a good interviewer.
      I loved Stern in the 80s and 90s, before he sold his soul. He was a great interviewer then. Not afraid to ask, persistently, any questions. That guy is gone. He kisses everybody's asses now

  • @Doll.autopsy
    @Doll.autopsy Před 7 měsíci +2

    I really enjoy that Steve Albini had no problem in speaking his piece and clearing misconceptions. Its far too often guests' on podcasts are a bit too timid to correct the interviewer on what may either be an insensitive question, or a misconception (especially in regards to culture, and here specifically, punk culture).
    I enjoy people who aren't afraid to put their foot down to swiftly come in with a correction while still remaining kind, but self-assured. Steve Albini spoke so plentiful in this podcast throughout and it was absolutely lovely to listen to, I enjoy being able to listen to a Nirvana interview/podcast and feel happier finishing it than full of sadness. This podcast really brought a lot of joy, and it was nice to hear Krist speak more, he's been notably a bit quiet in interviews in the past (but a fantastic listener) and its nice to hear him laugh and speak so fondly of Kurt's art outside of music.

  • @ShadowSloth3
    @ShadowSloth3 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was highly enjoyable and enlightening. A lot of respect for everyone in the room there.

  • @N3XUSP0LARIS
    @N3XUSP0LARIS Před 7 měsíci +3

    I got so excited the moment i read the title of this weeks show,. I wish this episode were 4 times longer.

  • @user-wv5gv3dw5u
    @user-wv5gv3dw5u Před 7 měsíci +8

    First Dave interview in years.
    Happy to see him hanging in there

    • @cjlewis79
      @cjlewis79 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Hot ones one was good.

    • @morbidmanmusic
      @morbidmanmusic Před 7 měsíci +5

      He does a ton of them. You live under a rock.

    • @user-wv5gv3dw5u
      @user-wv5gv3dw5u Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@morbidmanmusic he hasn’t done any interviews since his Mom/Taylor died

    • @hughmungus6184
      @hughmungus6184 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@user-wv5gv3dw5uhis mom died too? 😢 This poor guy

    • @therealwilfreddierkes9980
      @therealwilfreddierkes9980 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Yeah. She passed in June, I believe.
      Damn, my chest hurts just thinking about his year last year.

  • @AprilEdwardss
    @AprilEdwardss Před 6 měsíci +1

    I graduated high school in 1991, these conversations remind me of my own memories that I’ve forgotten.
    How did I get this old? 😂
    Great conversation, guys. ❤

  • @shanegedekoh121
    @shanegedekoh121 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wow, Conan talking to Dave, Kirst, AND Steve. This absolutely rules. Thanks to all involved.

  • @nb7466
    @nb7466 Před 7 měsíci +5

    When i was a kid. My mom gave me a silver 80s boombox with two cassette tapes. Onenbeing Aerosmiths pumped. The other was Nirvanas Nevermind album. Thats kinda been my taste in music since. I hold that album close. It brings back alot of memories.

    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Pump, not Pumped. I think it was Aerosmith's last decent album, though nothing can top the stuff they did in the 70s, especially Toys in the Attic

  • @ReyMarMusic
    @ReyMarMusic Před 7 měsíci +13

    I’m definitely checking out the entire podcast episode, thanks Team Coco for this interview!!! I’m a huge Nirvana fan. I didn’t know Conan loved Nirvana 🤟 dope!

  • @wormskull2454
    @wormskull2454 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I never thought I’d see Steve Albini on Conan!

  • @A-small-amount-of-peas
    @A-small-amount-of-peas Před 7 měsíci +11

    It was weird as when I got into Nirvana thanks to MTV Europe showing Headbangers Ball and my best friend who was a metal fanatic who bought albums and let me copy em on tape and at the time they were not exactly huge and then when they became huge after Nevermind all of a sudden girls and boys at my school started dressing like Kurt with a lot of lumberjack shirts, scatty cardigans and unwashed wild hair and instead of being pleased I actually got annoyed.
    I was 12 so it's understandable that I got the "you weren't there in the beginning man" attitude but the main thing I hated about it was the overwhelming majority of them didn't know who Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam or Mudhoney where they were just blindly following who had a hit song at the time which I always found fickle

    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 Před 7 měsíci +4

      It is annoying when unique individual expressions becomes trendy

    • @philpants44
      @philpants44 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Because those people were fakes. Always annoying when something unique becomes the institution

  • @latarax
    @latarax Před 7 měsíci +3

    Can't believe the intersection of interests happening for me in this interview. Awesome stuff

  • @Tonyhouse1168
    @Tonyhouse1168 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thank goodness for the Fighters of Foo. Imagine if we hadn’t had them; there’d be Foo EVERYWHERE!! I’d be covered in foo, you’d be covered in foo.

  • @mnixon143
    @mnixon143 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you for these clips, so amazing

  • @tyr409
    @tyr409 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I got it runnin pretty good. best thing i have ever ever ever heard on a podcast!!!!!!

  • @thespiritworldband
    @thespiritworldband Před 7 měsíci +32

    Must have been insane for them. I saw Nirvana at a small club in philly and they were number 1 on the charts a few months later. Can't even imagine.

    • @justinblack1248
      @justinblack1248 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I saw them at NYC's Marquee Club a month after the Teen Spirit video came out but before Nevermind was released. I thought they were sloppy and not all that, but their songs were so catchy and were stuck in my head for weeks.

  • @SuperFranko96
    @SuperFranko96 Před 7 měsíci +6

    This is so good! I love Nirvana and I love conan it's like the best day ever

  • @APisceanSlant
    @APisceanSlant Před 7 měsíci +7

    This 47-yr old appreciates this, so much. Nirvana and Conan's show were everything to me, as a 17yr old. That part of the nineties was truly incredible. This episode was a fantastic conversation. RIP Kurt

    • @singelo1000
      @singelo1000 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Uau were on the same boat
      This 47 year old feels the same😊

  • @jonathanturkmusic
    @jonathanturkmusic Před 7 měsíci +1

    Fascinating stuff. Conan is a great interviewer too. Forgot how great he was at talking with big name guests like this.

  • @halweilbrenner9926
    @halweilbrenner9926 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Really good to to see you on YT! SO disappointed when big chin took over. Miss you & Ferguson's show. Would like to see the 2 of you collaborate or do a tag team, alternating series of weekly shows.

  • @DominikPlaszewski
    @DominikPlaszewski Před 7 měsíci +5

    Such a great interview by Conan.

  • @gagypetkovic
    @gagypetkovic Před 7 měsíci +13

    What a true legend is Dave Grohl,he mentioned Yugoslavian car Yugo 😂 i was born in that country former Yugoslavia now Serbia,Krist Novoselic is origin by Croatia,Nirvana have to this day so many fans in Balkan.

    • @fauxpinkytoo
      @fauxpinkytoo Před 7 měsíci +3

      My best friend had a red Yugo. We drove around Dallas in that thing for YEARS...

    • @gagypetkovic
      @gagypetkovic Před 7 měsíci

      @@fauxpinkytoo 😂

  • @vanessamonster5038
    @vanessamonster5038 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow...Early 90s I was in college, doing college radio and playing in a punk band....I remember all of this coming out. It was a great time.

  • @tyr409
    @tyr409 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Simpsons sing the Blues was one of my first albums... Way before i bought any Nirvana.. Can y'all get Conan to get those guys on the Pod?

  • @TheSocietyPage
    @TheSocietyPage Před 7 měsíci +5

    Great interview. Please do this with more bands please!

  • @PartyMattNastyParty
    @PartyMattNastyParty Před 7 měsíci +3

    Love seeing albini interact with Conan

    • @ezyryder11
      @ezyryder11 Před 7 měsíci +1

      How the heck did the universe put these two in the same room

  • @_lolalana_
    @_lolalana_ Před 7 měsíci

    That’s the best conversation ive seen this year!!! BY FAR

  • @daveidmarx8296
    @daveidmarx8296 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I was working in a record store when Nevermind came out. What I remember was the only ones who bought it at first were these 13-16 year old skater kids, and they ALL bought the cassette - not the CD. My friend was a DJ on the local rock station and got me a free CD (this was early on as it lacked the bonus track) and I became hooked on the album one song at a time. I'd play Teen Spirit non-stop for three or four days, then (probably) In Bloom, then Lithium... I'd never gotten into an album like that before or since. I had just turned 21 the month before and for the first time, I felt like I was listening to music of MY generation.

  • @MayLily
    @MayLily Před 7 měsíci +3

    I've loved Conan for many years now, and I know that he can be a great interviewer as well as the best comedian, but I never knew what a superfan of Nirvana he really was! This whole interview is just a major treat as both a fan of Conan and Nirvana.

  • @SaumBodhi
    @SaumBodhi Před 7 měsíci +8

    You know sometimes i'd like to hear more from Krist.

  • @nomad9336
    @nomad9336 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome interviews! Conan, you are the man.

  • @splinteredspace3469
    @splinteredspace3469 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for the interview!

  • @dianat228
    @dianat228 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Just remembered I was there when Violet Grohl sang with Nirvana! It was fun except everyone was too tall so I was jumping around in the back like a cartoon character 😂 💕

    • @ellenhenderson6865
      @ellenhenderson6865 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Same! 🤚🏾I was at the Boston Calling show. Had to jump to see anything.

    • @dianat228
      @dianat228 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ellenhenderson6865 ❤

  • @zonesquestiloveunderworld
    @zonesquestiloveunderworld Před 7 měsíci +6

    Steve Albini is an absolute legend.

  • @AgustinRodriguez-dd6mj
    @AgustinRodriguez-dd6mj Před 7 měsíci +1

    This was an amazing episode of Conan's podcast!

  • @TheRubberStudiosASMR
    @TheRubberStudiosASMR Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this. In Utero is my favourite album ever!

  • @briandesjarlais5660
    @briandesjarlais5660 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Please! Don’t apologize for your gift you have given to us ! I’m grateful that you (Dave) Chris and Curt ! Did this make the change !Create the music you have made !! You deserve everything!

  • @melissahmielewski6999
    @melissahmielewski6999 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I so wish that Krist would have answered that last question. I'd like to see more interviews with him.

  • @stfn4472
    @stfn4472 Před 7 měsíci +2

    One of my favorite bands talking to my favorite entertainer? How nice :)

  • @Matyasmon
    @Matyasmon Před 7 měsíci

    I love these guys so much! Thank you for everything.

  • @mickjaegermeister
    @mickjaegermeister Před 7 měsíci +42

    Loved this interview, terrific. The only pet peeves is that the bass wasnt talked about, considering Krist was there. Also Kurts guitar work, considering Conan is a guitar fanatic

    • @scuzz.y8755
      @scuzz.y8755 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Also disappointing when it cuts to Krist the lower 3rd pops up and identifies him "Nirvana Guitar Player" ............... I mean i guess its right

    • @mickjaegermeister
      @mickjaegermeister Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@scuzz.y8755 yeah, i mean technically it is a “bass guitar” so idk. A bit weird but no biggie

    • @nzsnow9691
      @nzsnow9691 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah listening to the full podcast it kinda seemed like Conan cut them off and got in the way a bit, maybe just me but I just wanna hear the other 3 talk as much as they want, I don't want to hear Conan's story

    • @mickjaegermeister
      @mickjaegermeister Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@nzsnow9691 Personally as a Conan fan i like hearing his perspective as a fellow fan of Nirvana. But i just think the podcast could have been a bit longer. Like the John Stewart Nevermind one. Idk

    • @ellenhenderson6865
      @ellenhenderson6865 Před 7 měsíci

      Maybe the longer version is in the podcast?

  • @MononokeMoro
    @MononokeMoro Před 7 měsíci +9

    @2:58 Novoselic was the bassist of Nirvana

  • @MrUndersolo
    @MrUndersolo Před 7 měsíci

    Nevermind came out one day before my 18th birthday. I bought In Utero the day it came out.
    Great to hear them share their memories of that time!

  • @liamaleman1761
    @liamaleman1761 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Full Interview please!!!

  • @Trentstone121
    @Trentstone121 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I'm kinda surprised that with this line of questions, that the story of Kurt's Lexus didn't come up.
    He basically bought a lexus and his friends gave him such a hard time for "selling out" he returned it and kept driving his volvo.

    • @aliya_punkenglish
      @aliya_punkenglish Před 7 měsíci +2

      It was Courtney who bought the Lexus and Kurt immediately returned it back. No friends were involved in this.

  • @alfonsopayra
    @alfonsopayra Před 7 měsíci +115

    Something inside krist novoselic died when Kurt killed himself... he was never the same goofy funny guy he once was.

    • @willmack3090
      @willmack3090 Před 2 měsíci +3

      So true so sad

    • @EddwardScissorhands
      @EddwardScissorhands Před měsícem +5

      U mean when Kurt died.

    • @Teekay617
      @Teekay617 Před měsícem +1

      Was his best friend

    • @bloodaonadeline8346
      @bloodaonadeline8346 Před 22 dny +4

      @@EddwardScissorhandsthere’s no proof Kurt was murdered you’re not a detective, you weren’t at the crime scene stop gossiping.

    • @Jettraha
      @Jettraha Před 20 dny +3

      Well he’s not a drunk anymore either lol

  • @KLEARSKITHEKREEPER
    @KLEARSKITHEKREEPER Před 7 měsíci +2

    Kurt was punk rock he didnt want to be a sell out
    Dave is so humble..so much respect for him.

  • @1TakoyakiStore
    @1TakoyakiStore Před 7 měsíci

    This was quite a treat! Thank you for this! 😁
    On a different note I wasn't expecting Steve Albini to have an identical voice and accent to Sam Harris. 😂

  • @Will-_-_-_77
    @Will-_-_-_77 Před 7 měsíci +19

    I was 17 when kurt died and I remember exactly where I was and how devastated I felt. 30 years later and nirvana is still in the top twenty on my playlist.

    • @huubdrums
      @huubdrums Před 7 měsíci

      We are so happy for you 😂

    • @jamesvancam
      @jamesvancam Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@huubdrums?

    • @Will-_-_-_77
      @Will-_-_-_77 Před 7 měsíci

      @huubdrums everybody knows that only little bishes make comments like that online. Sorry, bish it's true.

    • @huubdrums
      @huubdrums Před 7 měsíci

      @@jamesvancam ???

    • @texanperry
      @texanperry Před 7 měsíci +1

      I remember where I was too. I was sitting in my car at a corner store in Austin when I heard the news. I was on my way home. I had to stop where I was and process the news I just heard. It was so sad!

  • @e3uphoric51
    @e3uphoric51 Před 23 dny +5

    Rest in peace Steve Albini

  • @SuzyQEyezOfBlue
    @SuzyQEyezOfBlue Před 7 měsíci

    I neeeeeed s much more from this! Off to go watch for it.

  • @Dustpuma1
    @Dustpuma1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Always awesome to hear these dudes

  • @jonathanlocke6404
    @jonathanlocke6404 Před 7 měsíci +24

    I think if you saw Krist somewhere, and could point him out to a younger person who knew absolutely nothing about him or Nirvana, and told them "that guy played bass in one of the most important, most cutting edge, hippest and most dangerous rock bands of all time, they'd be like: 'That guy?!!'" For some reason, I find that really, really cool, heh...

    • @jeffdeprey6279
      @jeffdeprey6279 Před 7 měsíci +1

      He is a giant, Like 6 foot 5 inches or more.

    • @jonathanlocke6404
      @jonathanlocke6404 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@jeffdeprey6279 Yeah, I always remember reading some story about a backstage confrontation between Nirvana and G 'N R at a MTV awards show. For some reason, the G 'N R bassist wanted to fight Krist. (Maybe he thought it should be bass player against bass player?) I'm not sure how big the bass player for G 'N R was, but I remember thinking: "I don't think you wanna mess with Krist"...He looked like he had a huge reach, and huge hands...

    • @SilentProti
      @SilentProti Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@jonathanlocke6404Duff mcKagan is also very tall

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    @aladdinben6346 Před 7 měsíci +246

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    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 Před 7 měsíci

      Whomever is using bots to spam this comment section with this nonsense, please stop.
      You're wasting your time and fake upvotes.

  • @krupauk
    @krupauk Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great interview just a good time for music UK America just expressing themselves

  • @basketburger
    @basketburger Před měsícem

    Great interview very insightful 👍

  • @PassionVictimTV
    @PassionVictimTV Před 7 měsíci +4

    Four of my favorite people in one room! I love this!!

  • @skodty
    @skodty Před 7 měsíci +9

    I feel like in most interviews with Krist and Dave, Dave never lets Krist talk. Krist was in Nirvana WAY longer than Dave, he co-founded it with Kurt in high school, yet Dave always answers for the group.

    • @DeathMetalGhost
      @DeathMetalGhost Před 7 měsíci +5

      I'm glad someone said it. It's really annoying that Dave Grohl always acts the mouthpiece of the band when Krist would have some really interesting insights given that he was there from the beginning.

    • @PresenceUponMe
      @PresenceUponMe Před 7 měsíci +3

      Exactly. Dave was always the quiet one in the band, and now you can't shut him up. 😂

  • @IMONFIREPLEASEPUTMEOUT
    @IMONFIREPLEASEPUTMEOUT Před 7 měsíci

    Ope editor accidently listed Krist as the guitarist! Awesome interview, bingeing through all of these.

  • @yesterdaze114
    @yesterdaze114 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Some of my favorite people & biggest inspirations all in one room. Thank you for this episode!!