Man & Woman: Love and Respect Within God-Given Roles
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0:01 The Elevation of Women from Ancient World slavery.
1:25 No doubt.
1:37 The 1950s in America were more traditional, with an appreciation for the difference and order of Men and Women.
2:20 Christians worship together, the whole family worships together.
3:29 Respect, Fear of disrespecting someone else with your behaviors.
5:06 The Christian Tradition of Male and Female.
*About What Headship Is*
6:12 Man And Woman, Headship by the Greeks meant Source,
7:18 Headwater meant Source of the River or stream. Fountainhead
7:40 Rosh Hashhana "Head of The New Year."
8:24 The Father is The Archae of The Son. So, The Son is The Archae of Creation.
8:38 None of this has to do with Power, it has to do with Relation.
8:53 Theodore of Cyrus on Equal Divinity of The Son.
9:52 Subjection is added in order to maintain the Original relationship of the "Self-Giving by The Source and The Thanksgiving by The Person From The Source."
*Giving and Thanking*
10:25 Husband gives His Life for His Wife, The Woman responds with a Thankful Service for Her Husband.
10:33 Thanksgiving Towards Christ. Thankful service owed to God.
11:13 All the Giving is done by The Father, all the Thanking is done by The Son.
11:46
The Man in the relationship takes The Father's role
The Woman in the relationship takes Jesus Christ's role
When Mother is with Children
11:55 The Women does The Self-Giving, as The Father Self-Gave to The Son
The Children then respond with Thankful Service.
*Father and Son, Together*
12:07 We all have these opportunities to act as Father to others and to act as Son to others.
12:27 It is a Fundamental, Meaningful relationship between people.
13:04 The Father and Son are One Through This Relationship.
13:20 The Christian Clergy take on The Father's Role, The Self-Giving Source.
The Clergyman takes on The Caring Commitment to His Flock.
14:27 Dedicated to Caring for one's people.
15:02 Rulers caring for their People, as a Father cares for his Children, as a Sheppard cares for his Flock.
What are the reasons The Orthodox Church does not ordain females?
15:20 The Main Reason is: There is an Order.
15:40 In order to keep Man and Woman together, to preserve the family and the society.
16:02 Source, Responsibility.
16:26 Bearing The Image of God, a Likeness in Relation. Responsibility.
*Being Like The Father and The Son in our Lives.*
16:41
Man is to be like The Father, The Self-Giving Source
Woman is to be like Jesus Christ, The Eucharistic Son aka The Thanksgiving Son
17:34 The Man, The Woman, being Christ-Like, together.
18:32 Image of Christ, Image of Father, and Being Christ-Like.
18:56 Self-Sacrifical Giving.
19:05 Self-Giving, Self-Sacrifice. Met with Thanksgiving. Man and Woman, Husband and Wife.
19:38 Two People, Two Roles, both being Christ-Like.
Thank you for your service, Thattimespampguy.
I am a product of radical feminism and it ruined me. My only hope is in Jesus and his restoration and hope of eternal life in the life to come where there will be no more sorrows.
feminism did ruin society. But what also ruined society is bringing women into the work force. and the social life we have now encourages fornication. Also, i think part of the devils trick was to make society believe that it is ok for a man to have sexual relations with multiple women, but not the way around. That it is not important for a man to be a virgin upon marriage, but it was very frowned upon for a woman. Unfairness leads people to rebel. And sadly women saw this and instead of saying "this is wrong", it became "well if they can do it why cant we"... Lord have mercy
Dont lose that hope. Christ is the mightiest healer. He healed Mary of Magdala, and she was in a bad way. Demon possesed. 😈
There is nothing that radical feminism has done to you, that He can not set straight. He hasn't changed. I have seen miracles.
So, let your heart not be troubled, for He cares for you.
Lord have mercy. help us and pray for us. The ideologies that are implanted in our western minds. I battle with this. Holy Mother prayer for us sinners
Fr Peter many thanks for everyday interesting dialogues. God bless you with physical and the spiritual strength. May our Lord save and deliver you. Amen
From sorrowful and dark Ukraine. Peace.☦🕊
Thank you for this great video Father. As a young man it's very important to understand the proper way to treat a woman.
Role, based on the Hierarchy of things.
Glory to Jesus Christ for the Orthodox Church ☦️
Thank you for this wonderful video!
Loved this video a lot, Fathers. Glory to God. 🙏 God grant you both many years. ☦︎
The fractal nature of creation, patterned by the trinity, never ceases to to amaze and stupefy
Peace be with you
Men and women worship God together in Christianity. The same cannot be said for Islam and Judaism.
God be with us🙏😍
❤🔥✌👩❤👨👶💍💪🕊🙏✝GOD BLESS 🙏💒🌟👨👩👧👦🙌💯❤
Very nicely articulated 💯
Responsibility without authority is slavery.
Authority without accountability is tyranny.
Submission, is lifting up purpose, and standing under it, to bear it until completion.
Man, as husband has a purpose toward Christ above, at the right hand. His second purpose as husband is directed to his helpmeet.
Many marry thinking the primary reason that God gave marriage is to make them happy.
That is a mistake. It is given to make us holy.
If men were told, to offer their shed blood, as a type of Christ, in the Heavenly Temple... and prepared for the mission of a priestly husband with the same effort that the Ordained Priests do, I think relationships would fare far better
I was thinkin bout my old crush today 😂
Here's a question, if a wife is trying to usurp her husband's "ordered" standing then who has worldly "power & authority" over her then (if not the husband)? Does the wife exclusively have absolute power over herself? If it's the priest, then does a priest have more power & authority over a husband's wife than he does? If a husband wants to switch church parishes does he then have to obtain permission form from both his wife & the priest that he desires to cut ties with? Questions questions 🤔
It's impossible to eliminate worldly hierarchy in any form here on earth, it's simply not how God designed us...at all. Our civic rulers have power & authority over us (even should we refuse & be martyred), our parents when we were little children had power & authority over us, a police officer has power & authority to stop us in our vehicles, our bosses at work (if we want to obtain a paycheck) have power & authority over us, & how about a priest, does a priest have authority over the laity? Perhaps you are just designed to "serve" the flock but not have any power & authority over it?
Shout out to everyone who wrongly says 50/50 relationships are the Christian way.
At 18:49...she "allows him" by marrying him, no?
My question is, if the husband does not have power & authority over his wife, who then gets to make the ultimate decision regarding:
- Which house you will buy?
- What the budgeting of weekly expenses is?
- Where do you educate or send your children to school? Etc
If marriage is a "50/50 equal partnership", yet husband's don't have power & authority over their wives, do you make tough, contentious decisions between you & your wife via the randomness of a coin flip? Who flips it & who calls it then? Biblically patriarchal coin flips for the win! LFG 😄
@@thaimuayshoo1171 I think generally they should discuss it among themselves, but the ultimate decision should be made by the man if theyre having trouble deciding. Also the scenarios you presented aren't really too crucial to where it is important to establish who the decision maker should be. A woman can do a great job budgeting. In our household, my mom budgets and she does a fantastic job.
where to educate? easy. at home 😄can you trust schools these days?! you can say they're spiritual suicide! Brainwashing chambers!
@@Valexia683If you don't like how your wife is budgeting do you get to over-rule her though? I understand obviously a man should listen to the concerns of his wife (and vice versa), but it's incontrovertible that someone (husband or wife) has to make a final decision. There can only be one captain of the ship, even if he grants the first mate certain privileges.
@@thaimuayshoo1171 yes like i said if it was discussed and disagreements happen, the man should make the final decision. As long as he is a God fearing man with the right faith and truly has Christ as his head, not misusing his authority. I agree 2 captains cant lead a ship
I find it amusing that your so called "Saint" Jerome said that the defilement of marriage cannot be washed away with the blood of martyrdom.
At the same time there is an anathema from the holy synod of Gangra for all people who condemn marriage.
How is he a "saint" then if he is not part of the church?
False religion.
Please read the anathemas at the Synod of Gangra. It is declared that anyone who condems marriage is not part of the Church.
Despite this the church canonized Jerome as a saint despite the fact that he called marriage a "defilement that can't be washed away by the blood of martyrdom".
This is a crucial contradiction, and proves your church made a massive mistake. It is thus false. Very simple
@RomanianOrthodoxCrusader the synod of gangra was a council and thus infallible according to orthodoxy. Jerome blasphemed marriage and thus eliminated himself from the Church. He said "the defilment of marriage cannot be washed away by blood of martyrdom".
@RomanianOrthodoxCrusader do you need a link to believe me that Jerome said this?
@RomanianOrthodoxCrusader It doesn't have to be ecumenical to be infallible. That's what your COUNCILS are for.
Google it, orthodox councils are infallible. Otherwise there would be no point in them
Jerome blasphemed marriage, but keep your head in the sand.
You are lying to yourself right now.
@RomanianOrthodoxCrusader he literally called marriage a sin that cannot be redeemed by martyrdom. That's blasphemy of your sacrament and anathematized.