BULLETPROOFING A CP4 FUEL PUMP?!
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- CP4 Pump? This High Pressure Fuel Pump is found in your 2011-2014 Ford Powerstroke and 2011-2016 LML Duramax. These pump have been known to fail for a number of facts and assumptions. One fact as we discuss on the channel is our customer truck died, would not start and was towed to the shop. After pulling the Fass Filters and finding metal in the filters we went to the VCV on top of the CP4 pump. As shown metal was minimum "this pump had not yet failed." But one problem existed metal was in the entire low and high pressure fuel system. Watch to see our approach towards this issue and our solution to this problem.
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For those of us with oversized tanks that low point mount for the low pressure tank pickup is no bueno.
Overall love clean work of this shop and I wish they were closer to me. My truck will never see a dealer.
There are technically two types of CP4 pumps, the CP4.1 and CP4.2. The main difference between them is the number of pumping elements. A CP4.1 has a single element and is typically used on smaller diesel engines, whereas the CP4.2 has two elements.
Yessir I'd love to see a cp 4.2 and cp4 teardown and comparison!
Airdog has a great location first off and they have a water port to drain. MAINTENANCE IS KEY
but Airdog only removes about 48% of water, verified through independent testing, while the FASS removes upwards of 99%....I think ill stick with FASS.
@@CliftonMurphyjr do you have a link to the independent testing results?
Get a CP4 Disaster Prevention Kit and install it on your CP4 and you won’t have to worry about injectors, rails etc when your CP4 bottom end comes apart. If you have a FASS set up, put a 2 micron filter on and forget about it, no worries
Thank you for the feedback sir ! Positive input !
I'll add another tip, when changing fuel filter(s) do not skip the step to force the liftpump to run purging air from the newly installed filter(s). Even a momentary loss of fuel feed can initiate damage to the CP4. The CP3, obviously, is more tolerant of momentary loss of fuel and I believe that a number of CP4 failures are due to owners or service personnel not being familiar with the fragility of the CP4.
@@walterk1221
Absolutely. Beyond a shadow of doubt. 🎯
@@walterk1221Yeah and the CP3 doesn’t contaminate the entire fuel system when it grenades
That was the most beautiful low pressure fuel system install ever! Most that I have seen are hacks that look like "get a grip garage" did them.
We greatly appreciate the comment sir thank you !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE you are most welcome.
Love the video and clean install but all this sure makes the 7.3 zilla look more appealing
That is a clean install, one the best I have seen.
Thank you sir we appreciate it !
Nice install
Thank you sir ! We appreciate the comment !
Very informative video. Thanks for educating
Thank you sir appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Great video and very detailed on how the system works so I have 2015 Chevy duramax lml that Unfortunately I was hit hard when my cp4 went out do u think I should go with a cp3 or go back with cp4 i purchased a fass lift pump which gives u more horsepower cp3 -cp4
Swap it Sir! It’s insurance for the future !
I fixed the problem with both the GM and ford CP4 by installing a 2001 ford lift pump the lift pumps n the trucks are to weak and the CP4 is acting as a primary pump and not getting enuff volume plus adding 1 cup of atf per 50 liters on Fuel protects and cleand teh pump injectors and is cheap as hell VS any other additive
Upgraded to a cp4.2... had to chuckle at that one. the ".2" only indicates it is a 2 cylinder pump. cp4.1 is a single cylinder you'll find in smaller displacement engines with lower fuel consumption. you're just replacing a cp4.2 with another. at best the "upgrade" is the additional of a tappet anti-rotation pin, or some other miniscule bandaid
I missed the bullet proofing part..... All I saw was adding a bunch of shit and told to buy a CP4.2
Thanks for watching !
I have a 2013 lml with 256k factory CP4 no lift pump tuned and deleted always towing my 20’ cargo trailer weighs 8k also my gooseneck with my pull truck and no issues what so ever I have taken the regulator off the co4 3 times checking for metallic material none whatsoever but I do run Lucus upper cylinder lube with every tank.
Thank you sir for the reply !!! That’s what kind of feedback we want to share with other thank you !
I had an F350, two CP4 pumps failed within 10k miles apart. Cost me over $24k for both. I believe the first shop didn’t clean out all the metal shavings completely. There was nothing I could do about it. The shop fought me, Ford refused any liability. I used clean fuel ALWAYS. Screw Ford. I bought a 2020Ram with the CP3 conversion already performed.
My greatest concern on this install is traveling through brushy woods or highway debris flying up and cutting or snagging the fuel line that is exposed on the belly of the tank. Great video tho.
Anything is possible sir , it’s all high performance modification so if traveling in those conditions then factory parts would be advised and thank you !!
I'm currently in the horrid situation on vacation in AZ, 2013 well maintained....paid off.....just driving down highway, low pressure fuel warning, engine light...engine died....12k failures of the CP4. Im in bad shape.
You contact your insurance company ? It can be covered !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE Monday we will try this, fingers crossed
@@brewmat “ When your in a hurry it can happen , seen it before gas gets accidentally put in instead of diesel. Just give them a call and let them know what took place 🤙
Like others have said, that is a super clean install. I was curious though, with the sump are you able to reinstall the tank shield? Also, do you have a model number for the FASS you would recommend and for those CNC clamps that you used? Great video.
Hey sir if you call the shop ( 870-236-4900) we can help with that info . Having a hard time keeping up with the comments on here lol which is a good thing . Speak to BJ
My 2012 water in fuel light never came on. My truck was 100% stock. Mine only had 28k. 100% serviced by Ford.
11-14 We noticed unplugged it would not come on 15 + when in plugged they came on. The truck then goes into limp mode.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE that’s because 2011 through 2014 was looking for a closed connection not just open with more resistance due to water.
had a fleet of 2013-2016 f250's , had 2 cp4's grenade out of 7 trucks, had 2 cp4.2's grenade out of 5 trucks. Go with the CP3 conversion, never had 1 grenade out of 20 trucks.
Sir to our knowledge for a Ford 6.7 Powerstroke they do not make a Cp3 conversion can you share some information on this please and thank you.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE Checked with our mechanic and you are absolutely correct he did the CP4.2 with a disaster kit. Sorry for that misinformation. I have CP# on tha brain cuz we were in the middle of doing a dual fueler kit on my toy LB7. The CP4.2 came on the 2015 and later trucks and we only had problems with the 13-14's
Whats left of the 15-16 fleet is between 250K and 350K miles, other problems were the charge air coolers, DPF meltdowns due to too much injector cleaner w/ CP4 lube, ac blower motors, and random radiator leaks at the cores. Once deleted we had no problems.
@@jasonhansen6632 No problem sir what so ever ! Thank you again for the response we all appreciate it !
The dodge also goes out too.
I would like to see the tear down of the CP$ pump that failed.
what if my pump hasn't failed yet but i suspect it could be in the process? Can i just replace the pump if i don't have any metal in the system?
Yes sir you can !!
Let’s see it !
Shall see it!!
This hardly seems bulletproof. You have 4 filters before the fuel pump (overkill) and nothing after the pump to save the fuel high pressure fuel system when the new improved CP4 fails.
What would you have installed then sir? We’ve never had a single failure in over 10 years of doing this installation . If the system fails we aren’t saving anything. It all has to be replaced. Cp4 usually fail because of (Air) , (Gas ) , (water) or trash entering the system.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE A lot of people have said that their fuel was perfectly fine but the manufacturer claims a fuel problem so they don't have to cover the cost of repairs. There are two types of kit I am aware of to save the fuel rail and injectors should the pump fail. One is a fuel metering valve with a greatly improved filter on it, made by Exergy for $240. The other is a fuel reroute kit that sends all fuel that went through the pump that could be contaminated with shrapnel back to the the tank and only uncontaminated fuel to the rail and injectors, this is the "Disaster prevention kit" others have asked about below, they are about $350. Both are pretty easy installs.
@@brantrichardson1949 So here is my 2 cents... we do everything pre Cp4 to prevent the failure not at the pump (because again when it fails it fails entirely). I’ll put it to you as we would a client “if you have the disaster kit install” and it works correctly and send everything back to the tank (are you ok with me fixing everything in the low pressure side and pay for it only to find out you now owe me again for a entire fuel system because your truck upon the start up failed because the metal did actually make it in the injectors , rails and return lines. This is only my opinion but it has have happened to me. When it fails it all gets replaced we try to take ever measure Pre Cp4 to keep it alive .
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE I would advocate for a filter in the return line to the tank as well to save all those repairs, I thought that was part of the set up in your video actually. In the event of catastrophic failure the only thing that needs to be replaced is the fuel pump and filters. With a modification to save the high pressure side and another to save the lower pressure side, yes I would rather take a chance on paying you to fix it twice rather than the enormous cost of replacing the entire fuel system straight away. That would be my idea of bulletproofing a system using a CP4 pump, not really bullet proofing the pump itself but stopping all the collateral damage.
@@brantrichardson1949 if you ever get a chance to experiment with that more power to you but with adding filters in the return lines doesn’t work for the pumps they don’t like resistance. But again We appreciate and respect your opinion thank you for the feedback sir.
People don’t know the difference between the CP4 and CP4.2 because of a diesel magazine saying the .2 means two cylinders and that the CP4 has 1 cylinder and is made in Europe.
What are you even talking about?
@@HuntsT Nice name dawg. 👍🏽
@@oinchadoomandwolfboy thanks
I have a new diesel Jeep wrangler Rubicon. It has the CP4.2 in it
I would like to know if I should buy the (Disaster Prevention Kit) or wait until they make a CP3 for the Jeep wrangler diesels?? :/
Thank you for the video. Nice clean install
I would go ahead and jump a kit ! Main reason would be because of the immediate fuel it receives from the kit , separating the fuel flow!
Did I miss the install of the Exergy Fuel Saver Pressure Regulator with 25micron screen to eliminate metal going downstream taking out injectors?
Isn't the cp4.2 the 2 piston model and the cp4.1 was the single piston model? I have a jetta with the cp4.1 which is a single piston version and my duramax and my wifes q7 tdi both have the cp4.2 which are 2 piston cp4's. Everything im reading is confirming this and the cp4.2 is not an updated version
On the Ford 6.7 ,6.6 LML and 6.7 cummins cp4 and cp4.2 are all dual piston pumps sir. I’ve personally never heard of the cp4.1 just cp4 . I’ve only worked on the light duty diesel so anything is possible!
What causes the metal in the fuel? Lack of lubricity in the fuel?
That is part of it but the cam in the Cp4 eats into the lifter causing metal on metal contact !
Ram switched over to a CP 4 in 2019. I just bought a 2020 Ram with a CP4.2: which was changed over about mid year by Ram due to fuel system failures in the 2019 and Early 2020 Rams with a CP 4 . So with all the fuel system failures in Ford and Duramax with the CP4., and much prior to 2019, how could Cummins even let Ram install these on the 2019 Ram engines in all good consciousness. Ram and Cummins should be responsible for replacing and upgrading all 2019 and 2020 models back to a CP3 pump, like they have already done for the 2021 models! Ram And Cummins Really!
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Robert in the link below we talk about the why sir!
There's a recall to replace the CP4.x in 2019 and 2020 Ram pickups with a CP3. The remedy is stated to be available "... first quarter of 2022..."
Does the 2017 f450 6.7l have a cp4.2 pump? Thanks for the vid.
Yes sir from 2011 up !
Keeping fuel filters changed, filling up at high turnover fuel stations, and running a lubricity additive in the fuel every tank. This will keep your CP4 happy!
Hopefully, I can get some assistance.... Looking at a 2016 Denali HD LML... has 80,000 miles on it.. Do you recommend changing out the Fuel pump now? Whats avg cost on that?
Personally it’s a roll of the dice ! We do not count on cp4 failure to keep us in business or bank on it by any means . Yes they fail. If it’s a keeper do a cp3 swap ! We can quote you one out or honestly throw a Fass fuel system on it and call it a day we have them on the site just depends on your ultimate goal sir !
Good video
Thank you sir for the feedback !
Suction and return lines seem exposed...thinking about brush and foreign objects catching it...
If it’s offroad / Baja / Farm rig we do a sump from the top. This was a street only truck .
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE The top? I thought sumps were at lowest point...water detection? Why top?
If it’s offroad , then the top is the only option.
SO these things grenade in all vehicles not just BMW. ive been told running some lubricating additives help. Any thoughts?
Anything that will increase the sulfur contents will help “ sulfur is a lubricant “ !
Can the air dog system be used instead of the fass? Thanks, love the powerstroke videos (6.4L owner with over 200k no engine problems just rebuilt the rear axle due to catastrophic failure, 09 elt ex cab manual shift cab chassis 4:10)
Nice professional video! Do you mind sharing the cost to upgrade/repair? Thank you!
With a healthy system or with a failed one sir ?! Thank you again !!!
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE With a failed system.
This still doesn’t seem like a “bullet proof” system! Your cleaning and filtering everything going to the pump 4 times yet the pump still has every chance of failing due to the fact its still a cp4 modified cp4.2 pump. It could still fail and take everything out once again! Wouldn’t it be best to dump the Cp4.2 and put in a cp3 conversion to make it “bulletproof”! I’m not a mechanic just observing cause I’m trying to fix the same shit I got on my truck right now. Help us all understand wtf Ford Chevy and Dodge would still use this shit on anything up and coming. I do like the cleanliness of your install but I’m looking for a system that truly would be fail safe as we all know there’s no such thing as “ bulletproof”.
@@madsnag97 You are correct but they don’t make a Cp3 swap unfortunately. So until a couple things one a Cp4 does not have guides for the roller lifters , second they have roller lifters a solid tapper would be more robust. Filtering is one thing we stress but removing the air with 2 pumps does it’s part in helping the Cp4 stay alive by not having air aided fuel that can cause a lifter you spin or
Turn in the bore also lack of lubrication continuous ! EPA / emission is the reason for the Cp4 or any new pump because the higher injection pressure means cleaner burn. 29k or 30k
Or pressure makes a much cleaner burn then 25k ! Hope this helps some sir !
@@bossone3801 Just over 10k sir !
Great video and info. Couple of ?'s were all 15's equipped with the 4.2 upgrade? And what are your thoughts on the H&S Motorsports 121003 Fuel Filter Conversion Kits for these trucks? Thanks again I am subscribing.
Yes sir 2015 was the first year for the Cp4.2 and absolutely anything or kit that can better filter the fuel I’m a go for! The biggest thing to remember is when your filters are being change make for sure the pump has been cycled up to 10 times to make sure the air is out of the system!
Would it be cheaper in the long run to just replace the cp4 pump every 100-150k miles if your doing everything to keep it healthy, so there would be way less of a chance of one ever failing in the first place?
You very possibly could come out sir better ! It’s not a bad job to change just the pump !
did the fuel cooler get replaced as well
Always !
Not sure what this guy is talking about. There are two types of CP4 pumps. A CP4.1 (meaning 1 piston) and a CP4.2 (meaning 2 pistons). All 6.7 powerstrokes came with CP4.2 injection pumps. So yeah it will bolt right in, cause it's the same exact thing.
Sir you may want to Google what you just stated , all 11-14 came with a Cp4 and all 15 plus came with a Cp4.2. Both have 2 pistons. They are not the same exact thing. The sensor is plugged in.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE I did "research it". Why don't you provide us all a link that says 2011-2014 have a CP4 and that the 2015-present has a CP4.2. Many people use CP4 as a generic term but like I said in my previous comment CP4 is just a family of pumps. CP4.1 comes on small diesel engines and has 1 piston. CP4.2 has come on Duramax 2011 to 2016, Powerstrokes since 2011 and Dodge since 2019. They may have made some minor improvements to make it flow slightly more by that doesn't change the type of injection pump, it is still and always has been a CP4.2. Just like you can have a 10mm or 14mm CP3. Both are CP3s but they are just Stroked offer different flow rates.
www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/what-is-cp4-failure/
www.drivingline.com/articles/new-product-spotlight-ss-diesel-motorsport-s-cp42-bypass-kit/
@@HuntsT Sir until you can get your facts straight there isn’t much to discuss. We don’t do links we do facts.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE lol. Thats what I thought. You can't prove it. So better off denying your ignorance as facts. Good luck with your business. I wish you guys the best. Hopefully you did some more research due to this discussion and speak a little more correctly next time you talk about a CP4.
@@HuntsT I just simply asked for you to review your statement. Again disrespect won’t get you far on here. If you need a full breakdown of a Cp4 of this topic then we have no problem doing so.
So the 2015 f250,350,450 had the cp4.2 fuel pump?
Correct !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE so the cp4.2 pump doesn't have the self destruction issues?
@@rvadventures It is less likely to sir but still can !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE I just sold my 2019 and 2015 and bought a 2016 f350 and I'm thinking about installing a preventative system like this as I'm going to be traveling for the next 3 years. Which one makes more sense and about how much will it cost with install
@@rvadventures If you want us to send a estimate sir , shoot us a email we will get one over ! Sales@pointblankperformance.com
So i just bought a 2011 f250 6.7 . An ive heard of metal getting to the engine thro the fuel system siezing it up. So whats my best option so i have no worries????
I have a 2013 Duramax LML. What should I do to my fuel system to make sure this doesn’t happen to mine.
Personally air dog or Fass should be the first mod on any LML because they do not have a in tank low pressure fuel pump sir !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE okay so I have a Fass 165 on there now. I left my stock fuel filter in place and I have the DPF crap gone. I replaced the injectors at about 120k miles i had one go bad so i changed them all out. I now have 180k miles on the truck. Whats my next step you think? CP3 conversion?
@@redge8279 CP3 swap without a doubt sir would be the next step !!!
I have a 2017, I bought it used. How can you tell if its got the old cp4 or the new one?
It’s the new one sir on the 15 to current they use the Cp4.2
Cp4 is stock. If you still have the sellers number call and ask them if the pump, injectors and fuel rails were replaced. Im sure if they were the seller would of mentioned it
This guy said, "the new ones use the CP4.2". Fucks sake. All CP4s on Powerstrokes are CP4.2s. The .2 designates the 2 piston design of the pump - which they all are. Now, they did produce a symmetrical and an asymmetrical version of the 4.2. Blaring sign to not take your truck to this shithole.
you put a BRAND NEW fuel tank in? why not just clean the old one out? i think after a good clean out the 4 FILTERS would catch any residual... and why not run the fuel lines out the TOP of the fuel tank. the sump sucker seems like its BEGGING to get knocked off
Sir, we always replace the tank . Plastic has pores , metal sticks in the pores and in turn gets back to a injector and can stick a injector open causing a potential run away. This truck was lifted 8” with 37s any time a client wants added power we do a sump . But if a client asked we can do a top mount “draw straw”. Running the 1/2 fuel lines from the top if not installed correctly will and can pinch between the frame and tank causing a premature hose failure . Thank you
Isn't cp4.2 what comes on 11-16 duramax? Just as prone to fail, ask me
To our knowledge the Cp4.2 was never used on the LML just a Cp4 sir. I could be wrong.
Can you run the CP4.2 as a direct replacement of the CP4 without any tuner or other mods to the fuel rail or anything else????
Personally sir we have never tired. I know they will start but we’ve not done long term testing . In theory you shouldn’t have a issue the pump is more capable and will deliver more volume.
Did you plug the original pump or only the water sensor?
Everything oem is back plugged up and working.
I have 2018 with 70,000 should I get an cp4 kit I’ve been up to date on all my fuel filter changes to
Have you noticed any rust in the lower filter sir ?
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE not that I have seen
Iv got a 15 Duramax, how do I find out if it’s a cp4 or a cp4.2? Thanks in advance!
Hey sir it is a CP4.2! Duramax from 11-16 are the CP4.2!
So i’m looking at purchasing a LML Duramax, what are the first mods (fuel related) to keep from having a fuel system failure? I want to makes the changes/upgrades before having any failure (I work out of town a LOT)
First mod sir would be a Fass or Air Dog low pressure system 2’nd mod Cp3 swap!
Hope you didn't buy an LML, I think they are junk. Ours has had fuel issues constantly and now appears it is going to have to get a CP3 installed to remedy the issues. Still haven't found the air leak that is in the fuel system. Just be cautious. Ours only has 155,000 miles.
@@chaplainlee do you have a low pressure fuel pump and sump kit ? do you run additives ?
Do you guy recommend the disaster prevention kit for the 2015 6.7 ford
Personally we do not only because of this “if it fails and there is metal in the system we replace it on to make sure it’s gonna leave the shop and stay up and running .”
Ok make sense thanks 🙏
Check out spe’s new disaster prevention kit. No lines need to be cut and filters the return back to the tank
If a plunger and barrel breaks/fails there is no kit that prevents the metal from entering the system, ask me how I know.
What can I do to keep mine from taking a shit
Keep the filter changed every 5 to 6 k only use Ford oem , keep the fuel from getting below a 1/8 of a tank , proper fuel priming on filter change !
So i read description on the site pertaining to the sump and FASS, if i wanted to try and have the most bullet proof fuel system for reliability and performance you would suggest what? In my head im thinking
Sump
FASS
H&S lower filter upgraded
Synergy mprop filter upgrade
Blackmarket performance upper filter upgraded
SPE OR S&S disaster prevention kit
With a cocktail of fuel additives to help ensure the pump is lubricated, hell i would go ahead and do a stroker pump since its all getting redone any way. Should be good for 800 hp all day lol, am i missing something?
What year is yours sir ?
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE its a all stock 2020, im on the fence between a emissions friendly tune and waiting for a little turbo upgrade and pumper or just go the full monte.
@@htownsfinest87 I would 100% agree with anyone on emission friendly tuning ( Calibrated Power Solutions ) offers solid support ! We are high performance so you know where we fail on the fence . 2ndly on the fuel system. The Factory system works extremely well if it’s my truck it would be a Fass and S&S system more so of the pump is getting a cleaner “less air “ and a straight shot of fuel from the bypass. I really don’t sell them on it prevents I sell them on it delivers fuel to the pistons and cam at the same time . So we see a little power gain out of it. Hopefully this helped some !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE yes thats who i am going to go with, black friday pricing is to thank for that, hoping they come out with a stealth kit soon or go with another drop in, guess my final question is what would you, if you can about what a 20+ powerstroke could make power wise with emissions on tuning, more air and fuel. From what I've read the beefed up trans and motor could handle quite a bit.
Watched your 600 whp cummins video and i guess im in the same mind set of full send and see what it can take.
@@htownsfinest87 Amen sir anything we can do to help just holler !!!
Where did they send the clean line from fass system? Did it go to the factory filter?
On the old or new install?
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE on the new system
@@paranoid1123 pressure line from the fass went to the factory pump that contains a filter then went to the upper filter sir .
.2 just means 2 pistons....
Ty👍👍
Do y’all have any experience with putting on a FASS 220 on a 19 Powerstroke? I had a shop install one on my truck with a sump and the truck kept saying low fuel rail pressure when it was pulling fuel from the sump... they then ran the pick up hose in the tank like you would without the sump kit and it seems to be working fine but now I have a useless sump hanging on my fuel tank... it’s pretty annoying since I really don’t understand why the sump wouldn’t work
Did they place top billet face plate in the correct direction and other than that sir honestly I’m lost . There has to be a restriction in possibly the install . By all means I’m not say they didn’t something wrong but something is up. Monday your welcome to call the office ask for Tyson , I’ll go over a few things and see how we can help! Thank you
2 years later i finally see your reply 😂. Sorry bout that been binge watching your videos last few days. Best CZcams channel out right now. I need to bring y’all my 2016 F250. I done sold my 2019 😂
What is the cost of the system
If your system is a total loss over 10k sir.
Will this work with a new 2022 ram 3500 cummins ho
You can do a CP3 conversion !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE I think I'll wait tell the warranty is up for that. What I was wanting was a bypass filter or something to keep it from destroying the fuel system if something does go wrong.
What was the mileage…?
Over 100k sir !
Looking to make 650 on my 2016 f-250 what do you recommend?
366 , stock injectors and a Stroker cp4.2 sir
Thank you
Can you send me links to cp4.2 you recommend.
@@ishmelly210 RCD.Perf.com ! Or 870-236-4900 we can quote one for you sir !
What is the cost of a total repair?
Over 10k sir
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE. Thank you for your response, and you say the 15 & 16 have a better piece?
@@blakman41 Yes sir they have a Cp4.2 which has been a better pump over the Cp4 version sir.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE. Thank you for your response, you have great content. Learning a lot!
@@blakman41 thank you sir many more to come, we have some construction going on at the moment once that is finished we will be back on track.
How many miles were on that truck?
60 to 80 k best I can recall !
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@@Dieselnm101 So great question and this truck did have a disaster, we left it out of the video because of potential conflict. Here is the insight , this truck did not “blow up the Cp4” there was metal “some” in the VCV and some in the tank as there should be. We did take apart the pump I wanted to see the internals. The lifters , plungers and cam were not damaged by visual appearance. So my opinion is this say the pump is good , fuel pressure is regulated by the FPR if metal got to then the bypass failed. Again this is possibilities , another “ if “ is if metal reached the fuel injector and the Pintle reached metal during on time it would cause low or no rail pressure. So the kit would have failed. These again are possible cases and a customer would have to send everything in to get tested to know EXACTLY where metal reach . I have never and will never install one of these kits . It’s just a opinion sir.
This is a joke, you did nothing to bulletproof that fuel system. Adding extra filters doesn't do a dam thing to bulletproof anything. The stuff that destroys the fuel system isnt a solid that can be filtered.
I sure hope the fuel tank shield was reinstalled to cover that horrible dumbass fuel sump and fuel line bs that was hanging down. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the factory tank design.
Just another disrespectful hater , sir if you don’t like our content remove yourself or better yet you’ll be blocked. I sure hope you can go troll somewhere else.
Frank...you need to go get a big Ole cup of STFU ...I'll buy it.
@@scubababy28 yup, pointing out the truth is never popular.
I want just one thing....tear down the pump. Nothing else matters. I want to see the internals and parts orientation on removal.
I have a 2015 in the shop now with complete failure. Not quite sure about the 4.2 only on 2015 is a good thing. 10000 dollars worth of i am all in on that comment. Truck had every bit of service done along with fuel filters every 10k faithfully. Bosch pumps are just a pos and they know it. Truck has 179k on it all stock.
Hi there where are you located I'm looking to install a fassfuel sytem on my F350 dully that just being repair from CP4 failure I use my truck for a Hotshot business and before I get back on the road need to have it on . I'm in La near Baton Rouge do you know any shop who can do a job like Yours that you can recommend me to it; than you in advance
Sir in your location off hand I apologize I do not have a shop to recommend. We are in Jonesboro AR.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE again thank you i do travel your way next time im up there iwill look for you
@@carlosnevarez6777 Thank you sir!
What’s your opinion on the disaster prevention kit as well?
So great question and this truck did have a disaster, we left it out of the video because of potential conflict. Here is the insight , this truck did not “blow up the Cp4” there was metal “some” in the VCV and some in the tank as there should be. We did take apart the pump I wanted to see the internals. The lifters , plungers and cam were not damaged by visual appearance. So my opinion is this say the pump is good , fuel pressure is regulated by the FPR if metal got to then the bypass failed. Again this is possibilities , another “ if “ is if metal reached the fuel injector and the Pintle reached metal during on time it would cause low or no rail pressure. So the kit would have failed. These again are possible cases and a customer would have to send everything in to get tested to know EXACTLY where metal reach . I have never and will never install one of these kits . It’s just a opinion sir.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE What do you have against the Disaster prevention kit. I have SPE kit on order.
@@markparker4032 Nothing at all sir , their kit is very nice we’ve not installed one yet!
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE That is good to hear. The last thing I want to do is spend $400 and a lot of work to mess something up. I value your opinion.
@@markparker4032 Hey totally understand I’ve looked into their product and by all means it’s a top notch product! The design behind it is geared into the direction of “if failed” It could/can save a ton of money!
Guess this proves a lift pump won't prevent a CP4 failure like many try to assert.
Seriously! Everyone’s idea of security is to spend $1k on a pump that will by no means guarantee failure, I’m just putting in a CP3 and be done.
Total waste of money for the poor owner. No doubt will get the diesel shop a return customer for the same problem. Get that pos cp4 out of there and install a cp3 and never worry about it again.
They do not make one..
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What mileage did the truck have?
Over 100k sir
No peaces in the high end with that part you are holding.
And if you replaced all my injectors fuel rails and everything and I had exergy valve in there .
I would do things to you bad bad things .
Why would anyone purchase a Diesel engine with a CP4 in the first place? 10 minutes on Google is enough to educate yourself about these pumps. They are going to fail no matter the fuel, filters, disaster prevention kits, etc. The aftermarket might protect the rest of the fuel system but the pump will fail. The roller cam follower will turn 90 degrees and start digging metal. Guess what the CP4.2 will do the same damn thing, admit it or not. At least the LML can be retrofitted with a reliable CP3.
Anyone who has a Chevrolet diesel and has had a fuel pump failure should go to www.hbsslaw.com to join a class action lawsuit against Chevy. Maybe they will be forced to help with our repair cost.
Lol, only real cp4 bulletproofing is to buy a Ram with a cp3 or GM 17 or newer.
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Gonna spend thousands of dollars to put the same pump back in? Nah. Junk. Put a cp3 in and be done with it, way better pump.
The CP4 is a shit piece of engineering. Each of those pressure plungers are roller equipped at the cam interface ....think roller cam. They are NOT keyed in any way to keep the whole unit from rotating in the bores. Once that happens nothing is "rolling" and metal starts being made with the roller 90° to the cam face. The roller attachment to the piston is nothing to write home about, either. Unless or until the pistons are designed to be non-rotable....oval, triangular, whatever....the possibility of roller/piston/cam misalignment is always present. I've seen several with the roller reduced to a huge flat spot on the cam facing side.
a lawsuit is in order called a class action lawsuit lemon laws are made for this stupid shit ad the thousands of dollars wasted on substandard enginerring
I WANNA SEE IT, I HAVE A 2016 145,000 THAT GOT 5-6 GALLONS OF GASOLINE CONTAMINATED FUEL IN THE TANK AND MY TRUCK WONT START NOW, NO METAL SHAVINGS IN ANY OF THE PUMP SENSORS.....WHAT CAN IT BE HAVEN’T PULLED THE PUMP YET