OH NO! BRITISH TOURING CARS (BTCC) - IS IT DEAD IN 2024???
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- British touring cars aka the BTCC , In this episode Oliver and Adam explore the BTCC ahead of the new season to try and find out if people have heard about it, what they love about it and what can be done to get people back into the sport! We were lucky enough to be invited by Power Maxed Racing to interview some of the drivers also! Let us know what you think of the sport below! Thanks for watching! :)
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10:34 BTCC actually already has this and it’s called “on the limit” free on CZcams and it’s FANTASTIC
Yeah I watched that and agree it's a good watch
I used to be a massive BTCC fan - go to races with my dad all the time when I was younger, but I've not really followed it the last few years. I'm still a huge motorsport fan and watch F1, MotoGP, IndyCar, Le Mans etc. But the BTCC just doesn't do it for me any more. I think the problem is it that it's become a bit stale. Whereas in other motorsport, there's regularly different regulations, new cars, new races and so on, BTCC just feels the same year after year. Same calendar, same cars, same three race format. There's not really enough that's new enough to make me excited - it just feels like you've seen it all before. It needs changing.
For me the super touring was the peak of the BTCC. Before that the days of the RS500's, M3's were a joy to watch. Andy Rouse, Cleland, Sytner, Soper, etc were great characters. I think the last great character was Plato. Now it all feels a little bit more sterile, and I'm not really invested in any of the drivers tbh.
Maybe what the series needs to become mainstream again is to get a famous ex F1 driver involved. In the 90’s Mansell had a few races but also Warwick, Tarquini , Morbidelli, a few others
The racing been pretty good this season and the hybrid and option tyres are working well so far
Thanks for the comment. Yes you are right. We have been enjoying it! Thanks for chatting with us 🤗
I would agree
@@CarChatTVIs that Rushden Lake's where you are speaking to people?
Its okay but sad to only see 4 manufacturers on the grid
im an F1 fan and my brother in law likes BTCC so i went to watch it live at Thruxton this weekend... it was much better than i thought it would be. if people gave it the chance and the media gave it the attention and publicity it would do really well i think.
I went to my first BTCC race at Snetterton last week, I had a great time, I don't really enjoy racing on TV but in person it was a great day for the price. I haven't watched in years so had no idea what to expect, but the races were interesting the track commentary helped me follow along and everyone there was really nice so i had a great day. Looking forward to going again
when BTCC came to the fore in the super touring days Murrey Walker said to the BBC that showing races live would be a major mistake, they did not listen to him, now the whole meeting is shown live so no need to go to the circuits to see the support races and without the highlights the average man on the streets won't watch hours of unedited coverage
Problems with the BTCC started a long time ago, Super tourers were amazing things realy looked like the cars your brought in the show room, Lagunas, Mondeos,Primaras, Accords......... all saloons, we then stopped buying saloons, for the series to be relivent now stick them all in modified Quasqui's Pumas, Q5s and all that shite Make it an SUV race no one buys hatches, saloons and coupes any more.
I never get this link between cars we can buy etc. The most popular racing series in the world feature cars that you can't buy.
Might have looked like showroom cars but in many ways they were more removed from showroom models than the current cars are.
Given the way car designs are going...BTCC is doomed. In 10 years it'll be the BTSUVC.
True! Honestly the Ford Puma in the WRC looks pretty cool, the roofline isn't that much taller than the Fiesta...
The btcc was at its peak for me with the group A sierras and then the super touring category.
Now it seems very diluted with not a wide range of cars and generally sound a bit ropey
I think exhaust sound is actually good now but it was the straight cut gears loud whine that reminds me of the golden years
The less races actually makes sense. Maybe add pits and wheel change like they used to!
As someone, who just joined, the state is worrying, but so far, I found the racing to be fantastic
The reason BTCC is failing is simple. Lack of variety. Bring back the days of RWD V6 & V8s vs Compact FWD nippers. Hell even in its "height" we at least had variety of engines regardless of the 2000cc limit. Volvo I5's, Ford/Mazda V6's etc etc. It is now all the same looks, same sounds, etc etc.
Don[t get all these doom and gloom "BTCC is failing" videos that are popping up at the moment. BTCC is aiming for a grid of 24 cars. They have 21 with the return of Bobby Thompson. The racing has been great this season with the modified hybrid levels working really well to add some spice. Contrast BTCC with the TCR series that many say is the future. They had 12 cars at their last round.
TCR is awful, like 5 teams and the racing has been terrible so far, no overtaking really, no close racing. Its been really poor
For me, the lack of interest is because they are NOT based upon road cars. It would be much more interesting to see how each manufacturer battles it out with their different models, designs etc. Rather than identical spaced framed vehicles that just look different.
This might also help with the whole 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday' mindset.
To be fair, they are not spaceframe. It's the real chassis between the A-pillar and C-pillar, just with the control BTCC subframes front and rear. Steel panels are used like the real doors and real glass too. Sure, it would be fun if there was a rule that you need to use road car suspension pickup points and type, but then it would just be TCR... So, I dunno if that's helpful. TCR is basically exactly what you describe "based upon road cars" -- most of them with the production engines (even mechanically bog standard production engines in the Honda and Audi), reinforced production subframes, using fabricated suspension based on the standard pickup points, geometry and type.
Except rear wheel drive is not allowed, but you ARE allowed a flat-four Subaru with a longitudinal gearbox if you want -- there was one before based on the old WRX.
Whether TCR is really anything significant different than NGTC as a spectacle? I don't think so.
TCR is (as far as I know) a LOT cheaper than NGTC to buy (build?) or run however. If BTCC went TCR, West Surrey Racing wouldn't be forced out, they could always be the homologation team for the (now) front wheel drive BMW 128ti. There's no current generation Ford Focus TCR either, so Motorbase could be the homologation team for the Ford Focus.
@@TassieLorenzo TCR only fielded 12 cars for the last round so the interest just isn't there in the UK despite being cheaper. As its not on TV it just doesn't generate the same level of sponsor interest.
I watched it years ago, stopped and the past 2 years i've started watching again as its the only racing i can watch for free now. I really enjoy it. One issue is overtaking, as in F1, there are some tracks where its so hard to pass. They need to do away with the changes per race. Some times they will have to use 2 types of tyres, others just 1. Consistancy in this issue would be important to me.
thank god for itv4 btcc coverage.
Yes exactly!! Let’s hope they stay with it !
The past two years it’s not been the same, but it was inevitable that it would improve with the hybrid rules. Alan Gow is a smart man, he knows what it takes the make the Championship more entertaining. I’d argue the racing now feels more pure, Since it’s not got ballast on then anymore.
Yeah I think and hope that this season will be a better step and the racing will be even more exciting than ever! I think the Tik tok streaming Should pull in more of a crowd. We will have to see. Ive enjoyed the racing so far. Appreciate the comment and sharing your thoughts with us 🤗
The sound of the cars are awful .
Personally used to go to btcc at brands most years, but we have now switched to gt world challenge , in part the sound is a big part of that with regarding going to the track. With regards to why its not as popular on tv , it used to be bigger than it probably should have been because of the fact it was on bbc 2 grandstand with much less choice back then and also the manufacturers backing and you would support the team that was the manufacturer of the car you drove.
Great video!
3:15 The correct question is "How much do they pay?" Not how much they get paid. Most drivers pay the team to race. Some have other businesses that they use to pay for it just because they love the racing. A few have sponsors, then the trick is to make a profit from sponsors over what it costs to race. Typical damage repair bill alone is £30k/year. Rumour has it that top teams charge drivers up to £500k/season. Few, if any, are ever paid by a team.
This is a great comment and something we didn’t touch on. Appreciate you bringing this topic to light. It would be very interesting to see the grid and which drivers are paying what. Also we couldn’t find what the monetary reward is for winning the BTCC. Thanks again for the kind words and taking the time to leave us a comment. 🤗
apparenly dan lyold was paying 100k for the seat . before he turned the key
I'd hope it's not dead, I just got back into BTCC in 2021/22 - I went off it years ago when most brands pulled out and it was nothing but Astra Coupes. Hopefully Autosport International can get more BTCC brands and drivers onboard in 2025 as it's one of the few premier motorsports that fans can get really close to. It wouldn't hurt for a few manufacturers to release some BTCC inspired road going versions of the touring cars with wider wheel arches. I think a couple international rounds wouldn't hurt either, the same way British GT goes to Spa-Franchorchamps.
My biggest fear is that soon every manufacturer will abandon hatchbacks in favour of SUVs...I don't think the Ford Puma would be a great touring car to be honest.
Bring back the Gordon Spice Capri Era.
1980-83 Tricentrol British Saloon Car Championship.....
Atleast its on CZcams.
Love Donnington park ❤ bet this was a great day out 😊
Oh do you? Yes mate it was great. Good people and great noise! 👌🏽
I feel like ATH touched on it with the parts from the original cars, everything is so far away from its road going counterpart nowadays we need to go back to the 90s when they were much closer to the road going versions so that the costs are lower (definitely get rid of the hybrid system) so that more manufactures come back to the sport
I stopped watching btcc a few years ago then just by chance I watched a video by Daniel Lloyd and started watching again.
I used to follow it. I've even gone to physically watch it a couple of times, in the 90s. Now I just find it dull I'm not sure why that is exactly. The cars are pretty bland I find If I watch it at all I will watch race one or some of it and then wander off to do something else. Mind you it's a similar thing with F1 for me these days as well.
Would btcc be more popular if they ran TCR regulation like the rest of the world. So cars from all round the world can race. Like back in early super toureres and they then had a few "world " races and "euro" races where drivers can use the car they race. But the BTCC is the only championship that run the NGTC regulations.
Also another point has the intrsr in "cars " ingeneral died off slightly.
Less modified cars on the road etc so less people intrested.
I followed BTCC every race for …like 30 years, apart from the last 5, even been to a few, I couldn’t tell you why I’ve lost interest….Ive never been interested in cars in general, I mean, I drive a Yaris 😅 (gets A to B ) but I love to race on the PC sims eg Assetto Corsa etc ( racing rig + VR) so I have a good understanding of race craft and so on and it’s that part I gravitate to, the technicality of driving not the so much the cars, seeing your video it seems interest has waned of late and it’s not just me….. I’ve just watched the BTCC Doc “On The Limit” and it’s peaked my interest once more so maybe it’s more social media presence it needs? I’ll be interested to see what can be done to put it back up there as it’s the most exciting sport to watch!
Good point, used to love it in the 90s. Used to have that Nascar attitude about it, and now it's too sanitised, and the cars don't have as much character.
Hello swede here! One of the big reason we watched it was because it was cars that you could recognise from the streets! People was proud of their 240 and 850 because they where fast on the tv!
I believed they should dile back the aero the 90s spec so people can see the car easier and we can get some propper btcc specials on the showroom.
Stcc have gone fully electric, not a bad thing. But they gone spaceframe and crazy aero. A big mistakes in my opinion
Agree with what one of you lads said about the three races. They're so spread across the day is hard to watch and do anything with your day unless you attend in person. I find myself mostly watching the highlights which is a shame. I enjoy both the Mini support series that alternate, but the support series are certainly not as strong as British GT either.
However if you're there, it's perfect for a full day of racing
@@christiantracey915 100% It's great when you are there the full day. People clock in to F1 for an hour and a half like the football though and it's over. Hard to do that with BTCC. Certainly brings a barrier to every for new spectators
I used to follow religiously back in the Super Touring days but the cars were auch a let down in the eras immediately after, i just never got back into it again
Probably more to do with the fact that most kids growing up nowadays don't have any connection with the real world, more interested in purile videos on tik tok. That and the fact that we have a Government hellbent on demonizing anything with an engine
Get it back to as it was in the 80s 90s . The cars use to resemble the road cars. however as time went on the cars are more like one offs. The cars need more power than grip, also with a proper H section gearbox. Etc
"More power than grip" I think Ford regret only putting a 8" wide rear rim on the Sierra Cosworth though. It may have made Sierras exciting to drive, but perhaps not the best race cars (vulnerable to E30 M3s with much lower tyre wear over a race)? The modern "equivalent" Mustang Ecoboost has 9" wide rear rims with a 255mm section tyre (9.5" with a 275mm on the Mustang GT)! Would you really be only allowed a much narrower rim and tyre than what's on the road car, in efforts to recreate the 1980's?
No serious series will run an H pattern box.
@@UKMechanic Formula Ford is a serious series and still uses the 4-speed Hewland H-pattern! 😄 H-pattern or sequential (and then pneumatic actuators on top of that if desired) is only a difference in the selector mechanism of the racing gearbox, after all. There was a H-pattern version of the X-Trac gearbox before BTCC teams switched to the sequential version of the X-Trac gearbox -- it's not like BTCC runs shift paddles on it, so it's not a big deal if they change to the H-pattern version IMO.
@@TassieLorenzo But why would they? People keep saying GT racing is the big thing yet all their cars are paddle shift. The younger generation don't seem to have any interest in going backwards. Formula Ford has been sequential for over a decade for the flagship series.
@@UKMechanic True! The only "advantage" of the H-pattern (be it old F1 cars or the X-Trac on early Super Tourers or the Holinger without the sequential adaptor on V8 Supercars in Australia) is nostalgia and that it's more fun for fans to watch. Oh well. Those fun 6-2 double declutching downshifts with the almighty big blip are a thing of the past in top line racing sadly. 🙁
It’s so frustrating because the solution is easy, just look at the most successful period and ask why it was so popular.
Road cars that people could buy, manufacturers fighting it out, and some crazy drivers with a bit of charisma not PR robots.
That's the reason we watched in! You feel like a part of the racing because some friends dad had the same car that they where racing on the TV!
People don't buy Mondeos and Vectras, or even Focuses and Astras, much anymore, which is a problem. TCR has the support of Hyundai and Lynk & Co, which is good, but there aren't really any other cars in manufacturer colours (the odd Honda Civic in Honda colours in some countries, the odd Toyota Corolla in Toyota colours in some countries). Are manufacturers interested? 😐
@TassieLorenzo they maybe buy some other models if they see some cool showroom looking racecars 🤷♂️ and if it doesn't work at least they got some good advertising too have at the entrance
And budgets running into tens of millions. It was never going to be sustainable which is why it all crashed and burned at the turn of the century.
Irony is that in the Super Touring car period while the cars looked like the ones we could buy they were anything but. They were profile cars . ie had to have the same dimensions give or take a few mill of road going cars but under neath the cars was anything but. in around 97/98 I had the pleasure of working on computer systems for RML (Ray Matlock Ltd) who at the time were running the Nissan Touring car team and in one corner of the premises along side the race cars was a chassis from a road going Nissan Primera. I foolishly asked if it was a spare chassis only to be informed no it was just so they could compare measurements to ensure race care was correct dimensions and in fact the only components on race car that were from a production Primera were the door handles and door mirrors and he think they may have replaced the door handles with lighter versions !!!!. Took a look inside and driver was sat in middle of car with engine in the rear.
Btcc is awesome it's just when the sun's out on a Sunday prop rather be in the garden
I've not missed a race in years and always attend my local circuit (Knockhill) and do not think it'd dead at all.
We could do with some new teams coming to the sport though. Still enjoy it, closer racing than F1 that's for sure.
In the quest for parity, The cars are basically the same as each other now, same front and rear subframes, suspension, brakes, transmission, most cars seem to use the toca engine,so they all sound the same, no 5 pots and v6s any more!
Also the hybrid is a waste of space. The same could be achieved with overboost rather than trying to be 'green' and lugging around batteries for an extra 40bbhp or whatever it is this year. It barely seems to make any difference to the racing
Still enjoy the btcc, and like a lot of the drivers, it's jus the rule set.
Understand why all the spec parts, the 90s heyday was criminally expensive,
If I was a driver like Tom or Ash I’d be banging on the doors of the Australian v8 series, maybe a wild card entry for Bathurst , could you imagine those two together having a go
Read the comments on Aussie V8 videos and they're all saying it's dying and a former shadow of itself. Sound familiar?
mate v8 supercars has been dying since the last five years or so. There's no more huge names in the sport.
Let me tell you this:
Around more than a decade ago, it featured the best in the business: prime whincup, mclaughin, van gisbergen, courtney and tander in holden, davison and winterbottom in ford, rick kelly, lowndes , who was at the time the record holder for most wins, and upcoming stars like mostert, pye, etc.
It's not special anymore. We had MULTIPLE manufacturers back then: Nissan, mercedes, volvo, holden, ford, SO MANY car makes.
Tbh it's been quite good so far this season much better than f1. Thruxton later today lets go btcc
just personally speaking I think it's probably more popular right now than its been in the last 20 years. every year I go to the track the crowds are noticeably bigger, seems like every 3 or so years they sign a new long deal with ITV, more and more people I know who aren't even racing fans have been talking about watching it. it will never be as big as it was in the 90s just because they were throwing F1 money at it (which was unsustainable). it's a shame because what everyone wants is big teams and big international names coming over and racing, but it's just not like that anymore. the collapse of tcr and dtm is disappointing, especially because touring cars as a concept seems to be fading away for more gt style racing. I do think the BTCC is very much alive and well, but the next couple years are very important to get right. the impression is that teams are leaving and the cars are too expensive.. the truth is a lot of the teams that have left were either already struggling or relied on manufacture backing (like dynamics with honda). it's just part of the cycle, but they have to make sure it doesn't keep happening. (just my opinion) I've been enjoying it more over the last 5 years and I think the last 3 or so seasons have only gotten better.
Haven't been to a race for years, so I thought I'd take the Mrs and our 7 year old to the BTCC at Brands a couple of weekends ago. Had I quick look on-line, and quickly made other plans. The GATE PRICES now... crazy... extra if you want a Grandstand... plus the food, plus the merch that the little boy will obviously want.
TV only for us, I'm afraid.
hi. we actually went to brands hatch and flew over from N Ireland for the weekend. well worth it in our opinion. get your point on the costs however. we went with full picnics to cut the cost. facilities and racing was brilliant. the best track we have here is shockingly bad in comparison to English tracks. will be back for sure
Become sterile , like WRC, Australian Supercars. Rules , manage tires, manage fuel -
What is this? I don't understand.
7:55 ATS seems like a top guy
Time to scrap the three race format imo, return to the one sprint race, one long race requiring a pit stop format and have less support races to boot.....
It lost driver progression. It lost ginetta. It lost clio cup . the low budget surport races aint worth watchin . if itv dropped it would fold in a year
To many rules in racing these days. All the cars are the same not a lot of vitality. But i still go to some racers and watch on Tv if i am in. But can it be improved the answer is yes
Used to be a big fan but lack of top drivers I’ve lost interest in it
I feel the car's are so expensive and easily broken that the hard wheel banging racing is slowy disappearing
1000 hour roll cage 😂
I rather watch BTCC over paint dry boring F1 any day of the week honestly. The close racing is all I want to see, no matter what speed or what the cars look like. Cars can be fast and look different in F1, but the racing is boring as hell. Not sure why anyone would watch F1 over BTCC. F1 is the worst motorsports series on the planet.
Cry more
@@andreis3416 You're cry more comment is pathetic. Sorry for speaking my mind and being honest about F1 being completely boring, unlike you, preferring to keep your mouth shut about things you disagree with to pretend to like something you don't and keeping opinions to yourself garbage. People like you are the reason people are afraid to speak out these days. I rather people speak their mind whether it's crying or not than people keeping opinions to themselves with cry more comments. Go away.
@@andreis3416 Rather do that than people like you too afraid to speak out disagreements and accept everything as it is. Cry more comments are stupid.
@@andreis3416 Rather cry than not have an opinion
Australia supper cars is the answer
Read the comments on Aussie V8 videos and they're all saying it's dying and a former shadow of itself. Sound familiar?
And the Supercars drivers are all coming over to run NASCAR
Unfortunately..car design is just boring these days..tedious hatchbacks...that are so similar. ..in looks ..and sound..go back to the very early days of the 2ltr class which became super touring. ...different cars..sounds, 3 box saloons with just about 300bhp..no aero. .some with sequential boxes. .some with H pattern. .but all were different. ..we were witness to some of the most aggressive racing seen on tv...it was fantastic!.. plus we had the voice of motorsport. .Murray walker. ..the BTCC...will die off because the cars racing now will be discontinued. .the focus is off in a year or so... Hyundai has stopped production of the i30N performance. .what cars will they be using in, say, 3 seasons time?... touring car racings future..is actually in the past...people will go to more period races to get their fix....like the Silverstone classic, and Goodwood members....thats where the real racing is....
In My opinion the lack of interest in the BTCC is down to the lack of coverage on Free To Air TV. Too many sports have sold out to pay TV Or Streaming services and its almost impossible to find your favourite sport unless you have ALL the streaming services, and who can afford that??
The BTCC and all support races are live for free on ITV4, as well as highlights shows and CZcams
BTCC has always been free to air, granted, it has moved around the terrestrial channels a little over the years, but always there.....
Absolute bollocks, do your homework
It's close racing. Better than F1.
Thanks for the comment Clive and sharing your thoughts 🤗
Get some characters back into the cars, not the boring PR speaking robots. BTCC was popular because of the racing , the rivalries, the contact racing (without penalties!) and the fact that the cars were modified road cars, not identical spaceframed, fibreglass bodied clones. Haven't watched it for a few years now, 90s were the heyday and I fear that it will never return.
Can't really say the drivers and boring and robotic if you don't watch it anymore, theres plenty of characters on the grid. Also the supertourers of your '90s heyday' were as you describe the modern cars, far from being modified road cars
The 90s will never return. Different times, different budgets.
@@moleyballin2270 You are both right! I think both points are true. The Super Tourers were more like crazily modified road cars (standard suspension pickup points, the original type of engine even if was way further back and lower than standard, and often with reversed cylinder head), compared to the NGTC cars with standardised subframes front and rear and most of them with the category engine (or a manufactuter engine that near as makes no difference sounds and performs the same as the category engine). The NGTC approach is certainly much better to allow a privateer to build a competitive car without spending a million pounds per car! But you have the comparison to TCR which is more production-based and cheaper to buy and run than NGTC.
They aren't spaceframed, fibreglassed bodied clones. They are steel cars built from the actual road cars. They have a standard tubular front end but from the firewall back it's a steel car with a roll cage and a standard rear subframe.
British GT is where its at and many of the Drivers from BTCC are Heading there
needs more drama?
Time for Alan Gow to wake up and smell the TCR Regs Daisy's that's what is needed to Revive the BTCC scrap the three Races and and have 20 min Sprint Race and then a 90 minute Endurance Race as Race 2
The TCR rules didn't save the WTCC...
90 minute is a bit much, but hard agree on getting of three races. It's really low level racing. 2 x 45 min races or sprint and feature like they used to do, would be ideal.
@@Bezza49 not if they switched to TCR Regs as TCR cars can do Endurance Racing
No Hondas on the grid so not interested this year. Simple as that.
yup, no more british machinery, in the british touring car. even vauxhall is a peugeot in a dress, these days!
Everytime we go it is absolutely packed out ,as popular as ever.it sounds like you guys don't actually go much ? And you quite clearly haven't a clue about rules & regulations and the tyre choices.
I'm really fallen out of love with it recently. I first got into it early/mid 90s going to Oulton Park with my dad.
I DETEST itv and everything they stand for. I've found their coverage to be amateurish with few redeeming points.
They'd get more viewers if they went to CZcams like the fanatec gt series.
The cars - boring, sound the same (at least on tv)
Drivers - I'm probably out of touch with them atm, but when I last watched it properly there was noone recognisable, all sanatised and samey compared to Plato, Menu etc.
We now watch F1 (since 1990) fanatec gt europe series, wec, elms, imsa (mx5 support racing is amazing) and Australian supercars.
Maybe I just got old
Bit ironic to say all that about BTCC then saying you watch f1 which has exactly the same issues
How so? I can enjoy f1 for the tech, the speed, handling and variety of tracks they go to. But yes some of it does get samey and can still find faults with F1.
The few folk I know who watched BTTC also got bored of it, thew few that are Marshals who lived and breathed it in the past are fed up. Can get a better spectacle out of many other series.
And as long as it is live only on ITV I wont be watching it anyway 🤷♂
Yeah, they do sound bad (as do TCR). Low revving turbo four cylinders sound bad. Could there be a way to return the BTCC to naturally aspirated engines or turbo engines with more cylinders? Or WRC cars have turbo four cylinders but they rev higher and sound great, so is there some way to apply that to BTCC?
Tcr uk racing is a better watch
BTCC TV viewing figures are far higher than any racing (bar F1) on CZcams. Why would they downgrade?
like all sports its been milked with in an inched of its life and sanitised to resemble nothing more then a car parade , oh and the fact no one watches tv anymore
Yet the viewing figures for BTCC dwarf anything similar streamed on CZcams so plenty of people do watch it.
@@UKMechanic that just tells you the younger gen not that interested in watching Motorsport in general , they rather play fortnite or watch it been played on streams which dwarfs motorsport figures 24/7 365days a yr
@@oldshiny3012 I was comparing apples to apples not oranges. More people watch football than motorsport but I didn't mention that as it's not relevant. I don't know a single person who doesn't watch any TV and figures support that.
@@UKMechanic Lmao you keep living in that little bubble you have made for yourself where you feel safe and warm. times are changing they have been for the last 30yrs and the numbers back it up . peoples attentions are far more wildly spread then they ever have been and they'll keep on been spread
@@oldshiny3012 Actually I run multiple CZcams, Instagram and TikTok channels plus multiple retail websites. I'm very much abreast of trends and figures as I see many of them real time. Problem with so many high level figures that people see is they are just that, high level. Break down views by age, watch time etc and a lot of channels don't look as rosy as people think.
Sad reality is younger peeps are not into speed and cars as much. The high vis brigades are winning the war against fun.The older fans look at modern car design and just feel sad.
It has been dead for a few years now. Needs a hard reset.
Three short races, gimmick of reverse grid cheapening victory, cars all look similar, oversponsored, lack of personality, no rivalry, its a very tired series.
Needs a hard reset to more basic road equivalent cars like they did in the late 80s which brought on the golden era. Don't feel they are even trying.
ITV coverage doesn't help. No need to show all the support races. Packaged high quality highlights with better camera work would improve. Also commentary team is a shadow of previous.
Cars sound crap. Penalties. It’s boring.
Races this year have been fantastic. All penalties have been deserved from what I've seen. It's a non-contact sport and you have to stay on the field of play.
@@UKMechanic Nope.
@@maccmike8 Care to elaborate then? Do you think BTCC should be exempt from the rules of racing in the UK?
@@UKMechanic My biggest beef is the soulless spec engines. The racing is boring, they used to swap paint and it was exciting, now its like open wheel racing, the smallest of contact and its penalty time. I was spoilt by previous decades of actually exciting racing.
@@maccmike8 Not a fan of turbo engines either. Give me a screaming NA engine any time but turbo engines are far more reliable at those power levels. There are different types though at least rather than all being the same. Contact is always a tricky one. Fans love it but people racing outside of the BTCC (like me) hate it as we don't have truck loads of spares and budgets to repair the damage like the BTCC boys but so many new racers look at them and think that's how it's done. Personally I'm glad to see them taking a harder line and applying the rules that the rest of us have to race under but I do appreciate fans like a bit of argy-bargy.