Typhoon Train Attack (IL-2 Sturmovik : Battle of Normandy)
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- A straight-forward 24 km flight from Asch (in Holland) to attack a German train travelling between Vise and Tongeren (both in Belgium).
The aircraft is a Hawker Typhoon Mk.1b.
It was a relatively late entrant into the War and was powered with a very powerful engine - a Napier Sabre 2180 hp engine, which gave the aircraft a top speed of 663 km/hr (very fast for the 1940's!!).
The aircraft was armed with 4 x 20cm cannon (very lethal/effective!) and was usually armed with bombs and/or rockets (usually 8 x high-explosive, or armour-piercing, rockets).
In this video, I make three attacks on a train using my 4 x 20 cm cannon and 8 x high-explosive rockets.
I achieved limited success - causing the locomotive to uncouple from its wagons - with light damage to the locomotive but destroying 2 -3 wagons.
Although I get hit by flak coming up from the train, the damage to my aircraft is negligible.
Aiming UNGUIDED rockets isn't easy and takes a lot of practice (one needs to aim high because the drop-off in the rockets' trajectories occurs rapidly). - Hry
My uncle flew Typhoons - he was shot down and killed as he attacked the marshalling yards at Osnabruck on 24/02/1945.
He is buried at Reichswald cemetary on the Dutch / German border. he was 21 years old and had been flying for 4 years - virtually unheard of for a fighter pilot. He is buried next to a bomber gunner aged 17.
War is not a game.
Well said. Nice though that your Uncle's exploits will never be forgotten because a new generation can see and fly simulations of the plane he once flew.
A true hero.
@@Gwaithmir the youth of today live their shallow lives on screen games and do not have the intellect to think beyond the little pixels which they use as brains. You make a sad point about real war. People die. RIP.
@@jamesbelmont3603 absolute bollocks.
That is such a shame, so many lifes lost. With the bomber crews who bombed cities I don't feel that sorry, even they fought on the right side.
With 8 x 60 pound rockets it was the same as a full broadside from a Leander class light cruiser with 8 x 6 inch guns.
What an absolute brute of a fighter and easily one of the best strike aircraft of WW2, if you want a good read on life as a Tiffy pilot get "Day of the Typhoon" brilliant book on strike missions in Normandy on very forward airfields that were that close to the front they came under mortar attack
Thanks for the tip. If I can find it I can add it to my book 'From a Luftwaffe fighter pilot's perspective' about Luftwaffe Messerschmitt pilot Johannes Steinhoff trying to defend Sicily by the end of the war.... I loved their perspective and reading about their problems with supplies and incompetence at the highest level all the way up to Goering and Hitler himself.
He later got badly burned in a crash with a Me 262, survived the war and became a general in the modern Luftwaffe... You must have seen a picture of him with his face badly disfigured..... fascinating read...
And since the Typhoon is one of my favorite WWII aircraft I sure will look for this book... thanks again...
This needs a sound mod. Never understood why there was not more attention to sound in IL-2. Thankfully, there are some mods that make a great difference.
Yeah! Download for free or buy the sounds.
Both train and airfield '11 o'clock low' . . . scarcely be HIGH would it?
One things computers don't do is create the actual reality. However the terrain and such is terrific .
According to Rise from the East, 247 Squadron (letters ZY) was never based at Asch. (Eindhoven? Helmond?) The last Typhoon ZY-Y was hit by flak Aug 22, 1944, so before Holland bases. 247 was my father's squadron.
My father's was 257/ Burma. Do you have your dad's log book.. I have mine.. ))
Best way to destroy the train - Hit the track immediately in front of the train. Travelling at speed it will spectacularly derail.
- Hit the main part of the engine with the cannon i.e. the boiler. Steam pressure will do the damage.
obvious.
@@edreynolds3745 Apparently not. This pilot didn't.
Yes it's a cannon a 20 mm Hispano-Suize HS MK .404 .V
Don't wish to pick but they had 20mm canons, not 20cm
This was a careless error on my part - noted very soon after publishing the video - the only way to correct was to re-do the video from scratch and I decided that I wouldn’t be doing that.
20cm cannon? dont you mean 20mm or 2cm?
why only 180 mph ??
20MM cannons, not CM
Wanted to tell you about the cannons but....some other already did.
Was ist der Unterschied zwischen Hawker Typhoon und Tempest? Beide Typen sehen sehr ähnlich aus.
Pretty cool... but a 24 cylinder Napier Sabre needs to sound more like a 2250 hp chain saw engine than a Tiger Moth...
Yes, sound mod is needed. Hope he gets one installed in future vids.
Around 40+ years ago I found an LP at the library of WW2 engine sounds. The one for the Sabre is used in this video.
czcams.com/video/Fo0Lv1S3RfQ/video.html
1:45 - 20cm cannons? I don't think so - that would make the shells nearly as big as those of 8" naval guns. A Typhoon wouldn't be able to carry many of those!
It was a careless mistake that I made and it was pointed out to me soon after I published the video - the only way to correct this would be for me to re-do the video from scratch and I decided that I wouldn’t do that.
Why no wing man?
Its not 20cm cannons, but 20mm cannons.
20cm are very large…😊
But love your videos😊
Yes which years did battleships start to come out with the 8" then moved up in size?
Commented here because your comment is Correct.
I know that a Typhoon rocket attack would do about the same damage as a destroyer broadside (8 x 4" HE shells), but the thought of a Typhoon firing off a chain of roughly 8" shells (20cm) - that train, nor half the countryside surrounding it, wouldn't have stood a chance! I know - it was a typo - but it made me laugh!
As I just posted.... 20 cm is 200 mm, that is 7.8", thicker than the wing..... 20 mm is about 0.78", thick enough to do some serious damage. Most modern jets have 20mm guns while the A-10, a real tank buster has 30 mm bullets (±1.2")...
@@edwardcarberry1095 battleships moved past 8 inch guns a long time ago, pre-20th century. They were already armed with 12 inch guns in 1900, and by the time of a Typhoon engagement like this there were 14, 15 and 16 inch gun armed battleships in the European theatre. And in the Pacific there were a pair of Japanese behemoths armed with 18.1 inch guns, which I think were the largest battleship guns ever put to sea... didn't really help much when the endless waves of carrier aircraft came for them, but impressive nonetheless. :)
@@baronvonfaust YES I KNEW that! But eweou didn't answer my question. As what you stated was not asked.
Whoever wrote the captions has to double check and correct it.
It said the Typhoon has 4x 20 cm cannons in the wing. I'm sure that should be 2 cm/200 mm cannons (about 0.78")...
20 cm is 200 mm = 7.8"...the wing in't that thick... or barely...
Yes, it was a mistake on my part. I’d need to totally redo the video to correct it so have decided to leave it “as is”.
@@mungee2 You could use Annotation to correct/retract it right on CZcams. Just a thought.
@@tahoma6889 Let me try that. Thanks.
@@mungee2 it should work for you. Are you still active with il2? Interested in collaboration to create a great film? Let's talk..
@@mungee2 20mm auto cannons. Seems like everybody had them.
Multiple gun runs against a defended target … there are a few guys who took temporary residence in Hanoi who would advise against this
Nice
Not bad
Ummm. I think you meant 20 "mm" cannon. NOT 20 "cm".
Enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing!
I am not a pilot..but i should stay low as possible before and during the attack..trees in the area should avoid the flak gunners can see you!
2 times 20 cm cannon? don't think so! Try 2x 20 MM and I will believe you!
20 mm cannons...not 20 cm = 7.87 inches
20 mm canon not 20 cm cannon
Trusting your luck doing more than one pass on a Flack Train? Fast run in, Cannons and Rockets and get the hell home. Live to fight another Day.
Flak
Decent started early. HE ran out of room too quickly. Better to start a bit higher, steeper dive at a later moment, and put those munitions spot on. ONE PASS ONLY. Might spot a target of op on the way home as well. But only one pass on the train. Starting higher will allow more aim time and better results. I don't mean 5000 feet. LOL. But 1500 perhaps. Hold level longer before decent starts.
what joy stick are you using?
Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM2
@@mungee2 thanks
Why not start your attack by taking out the tracks ahead of the train? At least stop forward motion & maybe cause a derailment. Then, with the train stopped, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. No matter what you do from that point on, the train's not going anywhere.
They meant 2cm
I notice that you flew directly to your target straight, level and slow, rather than weaving. There was no sign that your checked your air-space prior, during or after each attack run on the train. At what point did Luftwaffe resistance completely disappear? Or this supposed to be post-War and you're shooting up an Allied train?
The landing approach was steep but I do think you nailed the touch-down.
As a kid in th 60's one of my close neighbours had been a Hurricane pilot during BOB and later Typhoons and Tempest V's. He told me that after D Day their worst danger was enemy ground fire and how the Luftwaffe were mostly pulled back for home defence. He also told me that enemy armour was their main targets after D-Day.
After the initial landings, there were little too no German aircraft around. They were all pulled back. Flying into France was suicide.
Also, I assume you're taking off from England, so where was the North Sea??
@@thomasromano9321 airfield in France after landings. The north sea is very far away from Normandy. Out of range far.
At that point of war the Lufwaffe was focused on defending the home front by the allied bombers.
20cm cannons??????? Ithink you mean 20mm or 2cm.
Imagine a railroad kind of cannon on this light weight aircraft.
20cm cannons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really?
20 cm Cannon or 20 mm cannons
It obviously should be 20mm - a careless mistake on my part!
It was picked up soon after publishing the video - the only way that I could correct it was to re-do the whole video and I decided not to do that.
There is a real film of that attack
Multiple inaccuracies in this video. 20 CM cannon? That's about 8 inches. You mean 20 mm. Also, says 4 cannon but show eight.
I realised that I'd made a mistake on the 20 cm after I published the video - it would require re-doing the whole video to correct and I don't feel like doing that!
I can only see 4 x cannons.
There were 8 x rockets!
Animated?
Not sure what you mean?
Kooooool
It's 20mm cannons, not cm cannons.
Yes, a careless mistake on my part.
Sorry to say my friend you couldn't hit the side of a barn with a cannon from 10 FEET. Plus 20 cm is the size of guns you'd find on a old Destroyer or Frigate.
Starving the camps...
1:41- The Typhoon's standard armament is 4 X 20 CM cannons !!!!!!!!!
That's 20 millimeter cannons. If they were 20 centimeter cannons, they would be 200 millimeter. No aircraft has ever carried a 200 millimeter gun.
Lol I clocked it too! Imagine the recoil!! He did say ‘cannon’ though 😂
Yes, I made a bad error there!! Hehe!
War's not a game. These simulatiions are.
I agree.
Your point being?
20cm guns?????? Dude thats the size of battleship guns. Try 20mm cannons
I realised soon after publishing this video that I should have said 20 mm and not 20 cm - a careless error on my part - the only way to correct this is to re-do the whole movie, and I'm not about to do that!
20cm canons? Wow, a flying battleship....... I think most were fitted with 20mm canons....
Yes, I only became aware of this after publishing and to correct it would mean me re-doing the video from scratch.
A very careless error on my part.
Jjj
ASCH IS BELGIUM !!!!!!!
Yes, that is a mistake on my part.
I Googled the name “Asch” and the Asch that came up was the Asch in Holland (this Asch is ABOVE The Hague in latitude - I didn’t check that!).
Thanks for pointing this out.
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Asch (nowadays As) is in Belgium, not in Holland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zutendaal_Air_Base