The NBA Has a Steroid Problem

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  • @Philion
    @Philion  Před 7 měsíci +68

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    • @Beanboy-fx1qy
      @Beanboy-fx1qy Před 7 měsíci +3

      Elton Jantjies who plays Rugby for the Bokke (South Africa’s National team number 10 + Captain) got banned for 4 years the other day for taking PEDs (Clenbuterol I believe). NBA truly is a joke. Also how the fuck are you supposed to run into men every week at full speed without getting hurt or worse? I mean like give them all the juice they need

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  • @shabazz6679
    @shabazz6679 Před 7 měsíci +432

    The implication of the “LeBron spends millions on his body every year, what dedication!” Statement flys over so many people’s heads it’s almost hilarious

    • @lukeinvictus
      @lukeinvictus Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah millions on grass fed beef and organic quinoa obviously

    • @zendariuskincaid5205
      @zendariuskincaid5205 Před 7 měsíci +19

      They don’t wanna acknowledge that small million reason fsct

    • @thewonarmedbandit5615
      @thewonarmedbandit5615 Před 7 měsíci +39

      For real. I doubt the man just spending it on premium cuts of meat, veggies, muscle milk, and physical therapy😂

    • @BOnYTB
      @BOnYTB Před 7 měsíci +22

      @@thewonarmedbandit5615I mean to be fair he’s definitely spending piles of $ on that stuff too lol. He travels w a private chef, hyperbaric chamber or w/e (it’s looks sort of like a giant sleeping bag that zips up) etc. It’s not like you just take roids and become enormous without putting the work in. Not saying he doesn’t do anything, just saying he obviously takes care of his body in traditional ways….and that he obv works out and trains.

    • @zendariuskincaid5205
      @zendariuskincaid5205 Před 7 měsíci

      @@thewonarmedbandit5615 😂😂😂😂 right there’s millionaire trainers and bron got like 2 of those 🤦🏿‍♂️. He’s almost there already, then add on facilities doctors and supplements sheeeeeet

  • @a1-user
    @a1-user Před 7 měsíci +1136

    In every professional league, people are juicing. When your life is centered around your athleticism, you have every incentive to use PEDs.

    • @Sunsets_0ver
      @Sunsets_0ver Před 7 měsíci +45

      Especially if the repercussions are so minimal!

    • @saturationstation1446
      @saturationstation1446 Před 7 měsíci +28

      plus only well off people get to play sports growing up, so they are basically primed to do whatever cheating is available due to seeing their parents get rewarded for being scumbags to other people to get financially ahead. i used to get bullied by the parents(and their hellspawn) who had enough money to put their little narcissists in the position to roleplay as athletes for attention. thats another thing about sports that just makes it boring to watch, knowing that those arent elite athletes out there, and they would probably be the least talented of all people alive who could play if they werent priced out of it. all the people we consider to be the best of the best in every sport would be made to look average or even bad if everyone who was athletic had the opportunity to play sports.

    • @ready4itall89
      @ready4itall89 Před 7 měsíci +10

      In the words of Nate Diaz, “everyone’s on steroids”

    • @siniister710
      @siniister710 Před 7 měsíci +65

      @@saturationstation1446 this is hilarious. American professional sports leagues are absolutely filled with people who grew up in poverty and bad living situations of all varieties, not a bunch of spoiled rich kids who happened to luck into a professional sports career.

    • @Skoopyghost
      @Skoopyghost Před 7 měsíci +9

      I am 195 cm. It's a nightmare to build muscle at that height, but I am hobbit in the NBA. Look at their frames.

  • @Dr.Mango24
    @Dr.Mango24 Před 7 měsíci +3124

    If y’all think that Lebron is still playing like a demon after 21 years and is natty you are out of your mind

    • @Justcetriyaart
      @Justcetriyaart Před 7 měsíci +140

      Kinda wonder if taking such things at a later stage in life is more beneficial than harmful trade off?

    • @DaddyLongLegs_x
      @DaddyLongLegs_x Před 7 měsíci +346

      Lebron isn’t playing like a demon tho he’s getting worse and worse every year. I don’t disagree that he’s doping but the biggest fallacy in this video is Phillions dismissal of improving training technology, regimens, and nutrition.

    • @lvl5charmander
      @lvl5charmander Před 7 měsíci +119

      he’s for sure on some HGH

    • @AMan-vs4vs
      @AMan-vs4vs Před 7 měsíci +59

      NBA is like flag football these days

    • @tjm8790
      @tjm8790 Před 7 měsíci +104

      At his age he most likely is using some form of anti-aging (TRT,HGH)

  • @pricerowland
    @pricerowland Před 7 měsíci +591

    Former college athlete, people don't understand what 10-15x your bodyweight in impact force feels like. HORRIBLE. It's not surprising the NBA has rampant peptide use.

    • @Jack-jx6ln
      @Jack-jx6ln Před 7 měsíci +15

      Is it really rampant? Suspensions are pretty rare it's not like every other week a new player is caught taking it

    • @anaalicia5029
      @anaalicia5029 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Khloe will fix Tristan lol

    • @DirtyStinky
      @DirtyStinky Před 7 měsíci +71

      @@Jack-jx6lnIts hypothetically rampant. No one can really know how many people are doing it because the way drug tests are held they can usually use peds based around them and have it out of their system by the time they are tested. This is also why most bodybuilders haven’t been “caught” even tho it is extremely obvious.

    • @kodawitdasoda_
      @kodawitdasoda_ Před 7 měsíci +14

      @@Jack-jx6lnbc they dont test for 99% of shit lol

    • @randomtees
      @randomtees Před 7 měsíci

      It's absolutely not rampant. It would provide minimal advantage in the modern NBA where agility and outside shooting are necessities as most teams run 4 players on the perimeter on offense. Even 5s have to be able to shoot 3s. It would help with injury recovery but it's not going to help you make an NBA roster. @@DirtyStinky

  • @wideawake4981
    @wideawake4981 Před 7 měsíci +80

    As someone who tried out clean for two professional teams (not the NBA), I want to thank you for this video. It is the most accurate assessment of what has been going on in professional athletics over the past 30 years that I have found.

    • @charlibravo371
      @charlibravo371 Před 7 měsíci +5

      What are you suggesting you didn't get anywhere because you were natty? Of course you could've made the nba. "Well done".

    • @idek256
      @idek256 Před 7 měsíci

      nah bro u just sucked

  • @austin31bennett
    @austin31bennett Před 7 měsíci +512

    I find it hilarious how people legitimately think that every sport in the country has rampant PED use but the NBA somehow doesnt 😂 like come on man open your eyes the NBA just allows it because their league would end if they suspended a LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Curry, etc.

    • @thomaswilliams1533
      @thomaswilliams1533 Před 7 měsíci +43

      I think kobe is already banned (from this plane of existence)

    • @darryelphillip5219
      @darryelphillip5219 Před 7 měsíci +17

      The fact that u jump to ped to explain why these athletes are gteat just shows insecurity

    • @jamespohl-md2eq
      @jamespohl-md2eq Před 7 měsíci +16

      Why would the league end? Baseball didn’t end. Football didn’t end. Cycling didn’t end.
      What makes the nba different?

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@jamespohl-md2eq I guess for cycling the doping itself is an art form/institution that goes way back. The shit Lance did for competitive Peleton was a build up of former top peleton pros decades before that defined how to hide doping and having tabs with staff/scientists of the anti-doping committee.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci +32

      @@darryelphillip5219 lmao buddy its 2024, there isnt a single physical sport left on the planet that is clean

  • @victoriahui8716
    @victoriahui8716 Před 7 měsíci +196

    this video reminds me of my pharmacology lecturer's favouraite phrase: "a drug that has no side effects has no effects"
    good video on explaining complicated pharmacology

  • @Arcangel2992
    @Arcangel2992 Před 7 měsíci +248

    Bro dropped 4 pts and they said “naw, this man is def on the juice” lmao

    • @WestCoastAce27
      @WestCoastAce27 Před 7 měsíci +39

      It is interesting they pop a guy who only plays a little. No all-stars are getting long suspensions. TV ratings can’t be threatened.

    • @seamuscavanaugh5933
      @seamuscavanaugh5933 Před 7 měsíci +17

      PEDs without a single enhanced performance is crazy

    • @adrijiyuda
      @adrijiyuda Před 7 měsíci +2

      This comment is so underrated LMFAO

    • @cmayy8317
      @cmayy8317 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven ❤Psalm 23:4😊

    • @Clipperfan_Tra
      @Clipperfan_Tra Před 7 měsíci

      ​@seamuscavanaugh5933 he's been playing well of the bench for the cavs.

  • @khaki_man
    @khaki_man Před 7 měsíci +482

    People would lose their minds if they knew what Tiger Woods all took. Him and Bryson DeChambeau basically doubled in size and then deflated like balloons.

    • @LTR1420
      @LTR1420 Před 7 měsíci +32

      Tiger has definitely used stuff in the past and probably recently. I'm sure he used it for performance, but he has an injury list as long as a dictionary too lol. I bet a lot of it had to do with recovery because he used to come back from injuries absurdly fast. I don't really think Bryson was on anything though. He definitely got bigger and stronger, but he also put on a ton of fat. What he did wasn't really that hard to do naturally. Especially when your job is being a pro athlete.

    • @SharmV
      @SharmV Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@LTR1420yeah that fat piles on once you stop training, muscles still hurt and need food for energy as it’s still active muscle even if injured

    • @MK212074
      @MK212074 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Tiger absolutely. Bryson just put on tons of fat while lifting a lot, he ate like a lunatic and never had any physique signs, honestly think he was natural

    • @Wyly37
      @Wyly37 Před 7 měsíci

      Hold on.. Did this idiot just say tiger and beau... You mean a guy that grew up and was never over 200 pounds is the same as beau who is 265 pounds and head is as big as a watermelon and we saw him 2 years prior at 190 pounds... Gtfoh... Tiger was kicking azz since high school, college and pros..... He just didn't wake up and started winning.... And beau still ain't winning

    • @WestCoastAce27
      @WestCoastAce27 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Tiger’s dad was 5’7”, mom 5’2” - so his dad gave him HGH to get tall so he could hit the ball a mile (long arms, wider arc, more speed); then who know what cocktail he was on when he went pro - at Stanford he was 6’1” 145lbs.

  • @user-ei5ql4pc5s
    @user-ei5ql4pc5s Před 7 měsíci +55

    Man had back to back 6 point games and they said nah we need to drug test this guy 😂

    • @GOATMENTATOR
      @GOATMENTATOR Před 7 měsíci +1

      xD

    • @srb998
      @srb998 Před 7 měsíci +11

      😂
      But on a serious note, that's precisely why they did it, players who score 30 points are too important for the ratings

  • @ju-v6926
    @ju-v6926 Před 7 měsíci +119

    As an European, 82 games a seaon + playoff is so wild, it's mental. Can't even blame the players for juicing up, it's just part of the game.

    • @TellenJones
      @TellenJones Před 7 měsíci +3

      NBA today is like where MLB was 25 yrs ago. It's rampant with all the roids.

    • @Anatolij86
      @Anatolij86 Před 7 měsíci +8

      we juice in Europe too tho, don't worry

    • @hectorg5809
      @hectorg5809 Před 7 měsíci +5

      They're trying to reduce it from 82 but it's not easy. The players hate it but the teams like the revenue generated from each game, from tickets and television deals. The tv networks aren't going to pay the same amount of money to the league to air fewer games

    • @diegodessy9700
      @diegodessy9700 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Anatolij86 yeah. the difference is that Pogba got a 4 year ban which is ending his career, not a 25 game ban

  • @juniorwilliams2599
    @juniorwilliams2599 Před 7 měsíci +22

    So THE NBA wants us to believe Tristan Thompson is the only player in the entire NBA using Steroids or PEDS LOL

  • @MikkuMan123
    @MikkuMan123 Před 7 měsíci +83

    Brb going to the gym to shoot a basketball a couple thousand reps for those 3D delts 💪

    • @pac0re
      @pac0re Před 7 měsíci +2

      hey, how did your training go? cannonballs or what?

    • @ROSH1503
      @ROSH1503 Před 5 měsíci +1

      lol you know it’s naturally it’s impossible to train for ball and do weightlifting for muscle growth at the same days/weeks. Natural recovery does not allow that.

  • @FallouFitness_NattyEdition
    @FallouFitness_NattyEdition Před 7 měsíci +74

    I've been saying for years that Leroid is on the juice. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who knew this.

    • @salty3069
      @salty3069 Před 7 měsíci +11

      Everyone is juicing my dude not just leroid but your favorite player too

    • @Pidea14
      @Pidea14 Před 7 měsíci +7

      ​@@salty3069 George niang??

    • @11DowningStreet
      @11DowningStreet Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@Pidea14luke kornet??

    • @FallouFitness_NattyEdition
      @FallouFitness_NattyEdition Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@salty3069 Well, Kobe is dead. So, not likely.

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Lebron is obvious. Lets talk about it. The NBA didn't start testing for HGH UNTIL 2015. The NBA made this announcement a few years prior.
      Before the 2015 season (summer of 2014) Lebron and several of the top players in the NBA all lost a lot of weight and muscle mass. They were all saying it was because of their new Keto diet. This was the season when Lebron started the season playing pretty bad and looking tired. Then Lebron goes to Miami in the middle of the season for a "break" and come back with his muscle mass back.
      He's literally been busted. Now add on the fact that his business partner got caught ordering HGH and his friend's trainer got caught.

  • @ixxirecords26
    @ixxirecords26 Před 7 měsíci +106

    I like this hybrid docu-commentary style. You’re always levelling up.

  • @wutangclan333
    @wutangclan333 Před 7 měsíci +31

    Pro sports injury: severe bone break, torn ligs/tendons etc - out 1 week
    Normal person injury: minor sprain, back pain - out 6mo - 1yr

    • @darryelphillip5219
      @darryelphillip5219 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Thats a fucking lie and u know it

    • @wutangclan333
      @wutangclan333 Před 7 měsíci

      @@darryelphillip5219 uhh ok? 🤔

    • @yct2.0
      @yct2.0 Před 7 měsíci

      Lol that's a fucking weak human, It takes 3 days for my ankle sprain heal, 1 week for a pulled muscle.

  • @Kep19901
    @Kep19901 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Why don't coaches/management test the entire team? Instead of singling out a few players. Probably because the entire team would be suspended. Think about it.

  • @wtfisthis1094
    @wtfisthis1094 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Rob Gronkowski once came back from open back surgery in 6months that’s damn near impossible

    • @Anon-qp3kt
      @Anon-qp3kt Před 2 měsíci

      Steroids is commonly used in injury recovery.

  • @EbonyPope
    @EbonyPope Před 7 měsíci +69

    Nice to see you getting back to your roots.

  • @ArgDu
    @ArgDu Před 7 měsíci +89

    No way LeBron is on juice.
    He's got that inhuman physique and recovery from sleeping on his new Helix mattress.

    • @Ian-oe9wp
      @Ian-oe9wp Před 7 měsíci +15

      he recovers with spite cranberry

    • @discipleofdagon8195
      @discipleofdagon8195 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Ian-oe9wp have a sprite cranberry

    • @Orverge
      @Orverge Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@discipleofdagon8195That better not be cranberry.. juice

    • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
      @user-pg7cx9wo1m Před 7 měsíci

      LeBron talent was given by GOD

  • @TonySoares17
    @TonySoares17 Před 7 měsíci +10

    "Shooting builds your shoulders"
    Google a picture of Larry Birds shoulders after 20 years of nonstop high release shots....

    • @marquisemoody6901
      @marquisemoody6901 Před 6 dny

      you don't often shoot with both hands, especially from distance like that. hope this is sarcasm lol

  • @MovementDrifter
    @MovementDrifter Před 7 měsíci +24

    "Are you guys off to the synagogue tonight?"
    "Nah brah, were off to the secretagogue"

  • @uncomfortabletruth2988
    @uncomfortabletruth2988 Před 7 měsíci +42

    All high level athletes are juicing especially the top elite stars of each sport NFL, NBA, MLB, NFL or any other sport leagues. The superstars of each league paying the best medical staffs money can buy to hide these elite drugs not detective by medical testing.

  • @user-pz8iz3yq3d
    @user-pz8iz3yq3d Před 7 měsíci +20

    Cavs fan here. When they announced they were bringing him back I was definitely scratching my head. Then saw him play and thought wow he looks like he shaved a few years off with his play aggressively grabbing rebounds, moving quickly in the paint and even getting into a scuffle and getting ejected from a game. Not two weeks later here we are and it all makes sense

    • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
      @user-pg7cx9wo1m Před 7 měsíci

      Sorry you haters, LeBron James was playing like this in High school!! No juice involved

    • @user-pz8iz3yq3d
      @user-pz8iz3yq3d Před 7 měsíci

      I mean won’t deny that he was playing physical with the lakers, his personal life could have really ignited something within him. I’ve always been a fan of him but never really thought of him as such an aggressive player (in a good way)

  • @OkuhleNtshweni
    @OkuhleNtshweni Před 7 měsíci +45

    In rugby, you get banned for 4 years. South African rugby players were banned for doping for 4 years

    • @ju-v6926
      @ju-v6926 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Rugby has to be one of the most juiced sport ever, I mean...just look at them! (A specially the south Africans!)
      Now it is true that they seem to be more harsh on bans.

    • @OkuhleNtshweni
      @OkuhleNtshweni Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@ju-v6926 as a South African, I can confirm that it’s especially a problem at the lower levels. Particularly at High School and University level

    • @ju-v6926
      @ju-v6926 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@OkuhleNtshweni crazy, I played rugby for 10 years (France), didn't see anything at younger ages. Then for the pros, who knows.

    • @cammy8208
      @cammy8208 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@OkuhleNtshweniExce mnganam good to see a South African here🤝🏽🤝🏽🤝🏽im from caoe town wena ??

    • @Anon-qp3kt
      @Anon-qp3kt Před 2 měsíci

      If they're caught

  • @denism.2590
    @denism.2590 Před 7 měsíci +20

    as a bball player with 20 years of experience and NBA fanatic, I can surely say that around 80% of NBA players are using some PEDs, and that 20% part probably exists only for those players who just haven't started to use something yet
    yes, they are the best at this game but they wouldn't survive an 82-game regular season without some juice

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci

      and still you keep watching

    • @abaofifsz
      @abaofifsz Před 7 měsíci +2

      It makes the product better.

    • @RealIsm-rj6kw
      @RealIsm-rj6kw Před 7 měsíci

      These guys used to play like 8 games in 2 days for aau. Aau be having you play 3 games in a row.

    • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
      @user-pg7cx9wo1m Před 7 měsíci

      Totally disagree

    • @biscaynesupercars
      @biscaynesupercars Před 7 měsíci

      Most of them don’t play all 82 games though. They’ve even had debates and discussions about punishing players and teams for sitting and resting players. What do you think game and time management means.

  • @KingSulley
    @KingSulley Před 7 měsíci +142

    Steroid use in sports is like plastic surgery in Hollywood. If you want to be a part of the discussion you can't ignore it.
    Unless the NBA & the players association are willing to lose a huge chunk of fans and money, steroids aren't going anywhere.
    I think what the league needs to do, is outline safe and accepted steroids and then test for anything they didn't sign-off on.

    • @Fireman24TO
      @Fireman24TO Před 7 měsíci +6

      Okay, you think people was to pay premium prices for doped up athletes? That's funny. The whole purpose to watch sports were admire the skills and abilities of individuals that could perform feats the majority of human beings couldn't naturally. Add steroids and why would people be interested?

    • @RenegadeVile
      @RenegadeVile Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@Fireman24TOIndeed. I think the NBA, and others, know how many people would get a bad taste in their mouth if the mass doping was an accepted fact and turn away real quick. I personally don't want to watch a bunch of guys taking shortcuts, especially since they'd still be elite athletes without the drugs. They ruin their own potential. Naturally, the industry itself needs to change to. Part of the problem is the demand placed on these guys.

    • @Fireman24TO
      @Fireman24TO Před 7 měsíci +13

      @@RenegadeVile demand only comes from earning potential. The reason why they hide it, is because there's too much money in it.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Fireman24TO Yes. Same with how NBA managed to hide their image of having company men for refs and possible game fixing. If the image of the NBA integrity that the corporation presents to fans was ever ruined, fan money loss isn't the concern. Its loss of confidence from folks with actual money like TV/media companies, sponsors, investors, realtors, govt employees and such who work with the NBA.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci +1

      The only way this can improve is if the public starts getting educated about the rampant drug use in sports. But I mean, Lance Armstrong got caught a long time ago, its commonly known everyone in pro cycling is on doping, and people just keep watching it. I dont think there is any way for this to get better.
      The status quo exists because it is stable.

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  • @CaptainCondog
    @CaptainCondog Před 7 měsíci +54

    So wild I remember watching you roast Kenny ko into the shadow realm and now you’re almost at a mil subs. So incredible to see. To this day one of my favorite creators on the platform. Never stop killin it Phil. Love you tons

  • @julianpourdanesh3339
    @julianpourdanesh3339 Před 7 měsíci +112

    Former college athlete at least for football everyone who was serious about playing ball for d1 or even pro was on gear (I was in a d2) coaches know and play dumb using players they know who are clean in order to pass the supposed random drug test they do for players. Shame young men destroy themselves for education and for their colleges profit for a slim chance of fame

    • @saturationstation1446
      @saturationstation1446 Před 7 měsíci

      piss tests havent been adequate for many decades. as long as you have some money, you should never fail a test, because fake piss works very well and is not super expensive. probably plenty of ways to cheat blood tests too

    • @I_enjoy_some_things
      @I_enjoy_some_things Před 7 měsíci +11

      My university (I was on the soccer team) had preferred doctors for its athletes. Pre-season, we’d all get sent for our physicals, get a referral, and a large amount of us would come away from the process with prescriptions for ADD meds. You know, Adderrall, etc. Stimulants.
      NCAA D1. The Football team was the worst offender. Guess there were a bunch of dummies who needed the help idk. Disgusting behavior.
      It’s 100% doping/performance enhancing.

    • @I_enjoy_some_things
      @I_enjoy_some_things Před 7 měsíci +2

      I’m on mobile rn so I can’t edit my own comment…for some reason, but I encourage anyone who’s interested to look into the kinds of shady things schools do for their athletes. It should be illegal & constitute medical malpractice.

    • @julianpourdanesh3339
      @julianpourdanesh3339 Před 7 měsíci

      @@I_enjoy_some_things absolutely terrible and it is a shock no one talks about it NCAA is the most corrupting and soul/body crushing organization I have ever had the displeasure working with

    • @sirisrex7542
      @sirisrex7542 Před 7 měsíci +1

      i mean one of these substances is an IGF secretagogue. It would mainly assist recovery and if theres millions of dollars on the line given an injury i understand people doing whatever it takes

  • @philbrooks5979
    @philbrooks5979 Před 7 měsíci +44

    Reminds of the MLB in the late 90's when many players were juicing such as McGuire and Sosa. It was a conspiracy theory back then to suggest they were doing so.

    • @RIVALContentJammerz
      @RIVALContentJammerz Před 7 měsíci +15

      What? Everyone knew it in real time. McGuire was bragging how they didn't test.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W Před 7 měsíci +11

      Juicing was the open secret for the MLB in the 80s/90s. Not only for those hitters but for my favorite pitcher then, 'The Rocket' Roger Clemens.

    • @abaofifsz
      @abaofifsz Před 7 měsíci +1

      Dude they still are. It is easy. Microdose and test later in the day test negative.

    • @ForThePeople777
      @ForThePeople777 Před 7 měsíci

      Hes saying back then MLB is exactly like modern NBA. I have a buddy ive been arguing with for YEARS about how lebron is on roids. He still thinks hes natty😂 im gonna send him this​@@t4d0W

    • @biscaynesupercars
      @biscaynesupercars Před 7 měsíci

      It was obvious that they were doing it though. McGwire, sosa, clemens all had dips then major upswings in performance along being huge with bad acne and big heads

  • @RenegadeVile
    @RenegadeVile Před 7 měsíci +16

    Making PEDs legal won't help. You'll just enable the richest to keep their advantage, albeit less significant. Then you still have the health complications, bad habits for role models and the fact that some respond to them better than others. It'll turn into a game of "who's juiced better?" At the highest levels.
    The only thing that can be done is to drop the number of matches to something humane, increase the length of a season to space matches out more, and perform tests before each match. But they'll never do that because: they like mmmmoney!

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci +1

      The only way this could be fixed is if the general public became aware of the juicing and stopped watching sports where people juice. But if that could happen it would have happened already. The fact is that most people are too dumb to notice it, and if they did notice it they wouldnt care that the athletes are destroying their body for their entertainment.
      Professional sports in modern day are gladiatorial combat. Just watch any football game. American or European football. Players get their heads cracked, sometimes die on the field, they are wheeled out on a stretcher, the crowd is cheering, and the game goes on.

    • @RenegadeVile
      @RenegadeVile Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheSuperappelflap Maybe, but as cynical as I can also be, I'll much rather choose that a lot of people are simply ignorant of this and, eventually, might start voting with their wallet anyway.

    • @abaofifsz
      @abaofifsz Před 7 měsíci

      You clearly do not watch sports. If a player gets close to death. No one is cheering. The athletes have a good understanding what they do is not good. If you have ever been a varsity or above athlete at any level any sport you are sacrificing your general health for performance.
      Why is comparing something to a modern day gladiator a bad thing? You operating under that assumption and thinking that the majority of people agree with you is where your flaw in logic begins.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@abaofifsz i do watch sports. i watch soccer sometimes because i live in europe. if a guy gets his skull cracked, the game is stopped, he gets carried out on a stretcher, people throw fireworks on the field, and after a few minutes the game continues.
      your american sports arent any better. your version of football is a guarantee for encephalitis.
      modern sports are just gladatorial combat with extra steps and extra drugs.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci

      @@abaofifsz the flaw in my logic is indeed that i expect people to be civilized and not enjoy watching people kill themselves for money. clearly, a lot of people are barbarians who do enjoy that sort of thing.

  • @Hailz24x7
    @Hailz24x7 Před 7 měsíci +9

    There was an episode of futurama, where the professor says "that was before they made steroids mandatory" while at a baseball game. Maybe he was on to something haha

    • @Dandoskyballer
      @Dandoskyballer Před 6 měsíci

      They were poking fun at the players who had recently come forward about their usage around the time the episode originally aired.

  • @raho19
    @raho19 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Dude, I just hit 40. I'm not a pro athlete or even an amateur but I've been consistently training since I was 23. I wish I could recover now as fast as I was doing it back then. Imagine doing it on the highest level where there's practice 2x/day plus strength and conditioning plus games. No way you can recover normally.

    • @biscaynesupercars
      @biscaynesupercars Před 7 měsíci

      You should’ve just stopped at you’re no pro athlete. We’re not built or train or have the resources they have

  • @str3ngthinallf0rms23
    @str3ngthinallf0rms23 Před 7 měsíci +34

    My substance use disorder teacher talked to us about his NFL days, he played on the 49ers. When drug tests came up they always knew in advance, and some of the veteran guys had only been tested like once or twice in 16 years. They tested my teacher a ton since he was new and clean at the time

    • @hectorg5809
      @hectorg5809 Před 7 měsíci

      The marijuana tests in the NFL occur at training camp and they tell you when they're going to happen. Everyone knows. Anytime you've seen an NFL player get caught for weed in past years, it's because they're addicted to it or they're a gigantic idiot

  • @justinwebster7761
    @justinwebster7761 Před 7 měsíci +21

    Its laughable the mental gymnastics people do to try to deny the truth of professional athletes don't use steroids with that much money on the line who wouldn't want an edge over the competition

  • @pjbennett8931
    @pjbennett8931 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Excellent video mate
    About time someone said it. Hopefully more start to follow your lead and expose these drug cheats

  • @tigrang493
    @tigrang493 Před 7 měsíci +94

    if you're wondering if an athlete is on steroids, ask yourself these questions. 1) Does their sport pay money? : If yes, then they're on juice. 2) Even if there is not much money in the sport, is it still very competitive?: If yes, then they're on juice.
    The second one guy starts juicing, the whole league starts juicing. We have seen it time and time again.

    • @dualsportdadz
      @dualsportdadz Před 7 měsíci +10

      I knew those darts guys were cheaters, who can hit that many treble twenties?

    • @saturationstation1446
      @saturationstation1446 Před 7 měsíci +3

      this. that behavior is super prevalent in eurocentric culture. its why we still pay 99% of laborers less than 1/10 the cost of living. because early euros made huge fortunes with slave labor so everyone afterwards always used that as their excuse for why they cant make money any other way than making people work for no compensation.

    • @saturationstation1446
      @saturationstation1446 Před 7 měsíci

      @@dualsportdadz probably meth heads at least. 80% of well off college kids abuse adderall aka prescription meth

    • @Skoopyghost
      @Skoopyghost Před 7 měsíci +2

      I am futsaler. I am not even paid. Fulsal is fun as Hell. I have few injuries. I can speak for me. If I got paid money to play a sport professionally. Steroids would be hard to say no to.

    • @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage
      @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@dualsportdadz could be lol. plenty of drugs help for focus nowadays. the real bitch of it is even if money isn't involved you can still find juicers.

  • @Jack-gg9is
    @Jack-gg9is Před 7 měsíci +9

    The NBA has the funniest punishments in sports

    • @candycrystalpremium
      @candycrystalpremium Před 7 měsíci

      Flashing a gun: 25 games
      Punching people: one month
      Being Jeremy Lin: lifetime ban

  • @bryang8005
    @bryang8005 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Part of growing up and maturing is realizing that every professional athlete uses performance enhancing drugs.

    • @kuyab9122
      @kuyab9122 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Part of growing up and maturing is realizing that sweeping generalization is not the most intelligent way to make a case. You always end up being wrong.

  • @soar12
    @soar12 Před 7 měsíci +6

    He ain’t the only one. Trust me.
    82 games a year? Plus playoffs?
    I don’t even see why this is even a problem.
    They all know it’s going on.

  • @RobustMustache
    @RobustMustache Před 7 měsíci +4

    Lebron: Who taught you how to do this stuff?
    Tristan: You, alright! I learned it by watching you!

  • @myTERAexperience
    @myTERAexperience Před 7 měsíci +21

    Always insane to me how supplements don't need FDA approval. Lots of money in there i suppose...

    • @maxmeier532
      @maxmeier532 Před 7 měsíci +3

      well you can get all kind of poisonous stuff at ever supermarket, CVS or home depot and drink or inject it if you feel like it. At some point, it's individual responsiblity for what you put in your body.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci

      They do need fda approval though. Its just not enforced at all because your government is broke af and the FDA is a joke just like every other watchdog and market agency you supposedly have, like the SEC or FTC.
      The only 3 letter agencies in America that get funding and legally have power to do anything are the security agencies/

    • @eastsidechump92
      @eastsidechump92 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@maxmeier532 those things have regulated labels and toxic symbols making it clear not to take this. Supplements can be misleadingly dangerous, that's the problem.

  • @CrescentRollCarl
    @CrescentRollCarl Před 7 měsíci +18

    All sports should adopt the Tennis anti-doping penalties. Up to 4 year ban, and potentially required to re-pay any prize money if they are deemed disqualified from completed events. Typically the bans will be 2 years, but this is still super impactful for an athlete's career.

    • @abaofifsz
      @abaofifsz Před 7 měsíci +2

      I mean the overall product would be worse than. They do not want that.

    • @leoh1191
      @leoh1191 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Oh please Serna Williams was doing so many steroids..her arms were ridiculous

    • @Anon-qp3kt
      @Anon-qp3kt Před 2 měsíci

      Yawn. Have you looked at Serena's arms

  • @free5370
    @free5370 Před 7 měsíci +45

    I’m an athlete and I use PEDs, I cruise on trt during the down season just training woodcutting, runecrafting, etc.
    but during deadman tournament I aggressively blast Tren and it’s given me an unfair advantage tbh

    • @grantfullick
      @grantfullick Před 7 měsíci +5

      Respect the honesty 🫡

    • @KTK44
      @KTK44 Před 7 měsíci

      you suck.

    • @Orverge
      @Orverge Před 7 měsíci +3

      It just sucks that you basically have to be on it for the rest of your life or your body wants to shut down

    • @lMobiuscidl
      @lMobiuscidl Před 7 měsíci +2

      What kind athlete are you? (I mean, in what sport do you compete).

    • @wrestlingscience
      @wrestlingscience Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@lMobiuscidlhe’s a professional skiller. Its a team based sport called group iron man.

  • @trevonlynum2785
    @trevonlynum2785 Před 7 měsíci +2

    records are getting smashed frequently in sports because the athletes are switching over to helix mattress for better sleep and recovery.

  • @SLF1990
    @SLF1990 Před 7 měsíci +24

    A good example of what you’re saying about nba players filling out their frames is Anthony Davis. I’m from Lexington Kentucky so I remember AD being skinny when he played with the Kentucky wildcats. One year in the NBA and he was stacked. I’m not saying nutrition and weights didn’t play a part but he looked different after one year in the NBA.

    • @strangeclouds7
      @strangeclouds7 Před 7 měsíci +4

      It's called being a teenager in college, while you're still growing, then going to a professional league where the number of games more than double and you're literally training 24/7 with the best nutrition and trainers in the world. Of course their bodies take a huge leap

    • @pooploops
      @pooploops Před 7 měsíci

      @@strangeclouds7yea it’s all natural ur right. he went thru second puberty

    • @strangeclouds7
      @strangeclouds7 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@pooploops Would you call a 18 or 19 year old a grown man? Would someone that age survive in the NFL? Most people's bodies are still maturing well into the mid 20s

    • @jjballers81
      @jjballers81 Před 7 měsíci +2

      He had a crazy growth spurt late in high school and that season at UK he was 18/19. Still growing into his body. He’s got elite genetics. He’s probably taking something but it’s more so for recovery. That’s what I believe most players are doing. Recovery is the issue.

    • @JohnBurgundy
      @JohnBurgundy Před 7 měsíci

      His shoulders tell you he juiced bro 😂

  • @Midknyte182
    @Midknyte182 Před 7 měsíci +12

    I wonder if that Reacher actor took sarms, because he said his testosterone was obliterated from working out so hard for season one. Then he went on that testosterone booster stuff. It just all sounds dangerous and not worth it.

    • @cromwellsports9868
      @cromwellsports9868 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Thad Castle beats drug tests. It's what he does. He is the team captain and he says oil changes.
      Edit. Go Goats

    • @330wiz7
      @330wiz7 Před 7 měsíci +1

      He definitely did

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci +4

      That dude is blasting a very luxurious cycle. He is 6'2 and weighs like 230, lean. Thats not just TRT bro. Thats eat clen and tren hard territory.

    • @Midknyte182
      @Midknyte182 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheSuperappelflap Tren? Are you on the same plan?

  • @Death_by_Tech
    @Death_by_Tech Před 7 měsíci +49

    I used to think steroids were a problem that didn’t affect me but I have two sons who do bjj and gymnastics respectively. I am genuinely terrified of the idea that my son who does bjj will one day go against some kid on steroids and get injured, or that my son who does gymnastics will go against people on juice and feel inadequate despite working his hardest

    • @antonolufayo7804
      @antonolufayo7804 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Injuries impossible if not using steroid? Or cant lose without opponent using steroid.
      If youre afraid of those things take ur kids out of the sports.

    • @artymcflye
      @artymcflye Před 7 měsíci +14

      @@antonolufayo7804this response is dumb. The power disparity between the natural athlete and the enhanced one would increase the risk of the natural athlete being injured in a 1v1 sport.
      The greater problem is that the children will be inclined to experiment themselves if the feel the desire to be better and feel behind.

    • @antonolufayo7804
      @antonolufayo7804 Před 7 měsíci

      @arthurhardy3626 based on what?

    • @andrewmarshall3519
      @andrewmarshall3519 Před 7 měsíci

      lol bjj isn’t a real sport. Little Johnny might get his arm broken and that’s it.

    • @01amare
      @01amare Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@andrewmarshall3519haha anyone who does bjj consistently would probably twist you like a pretzel. And in THAT sense. It’s realer than most sports out there. Not sponsored. I don’t participate. Just true.

  • @ethan4237
    @ethan4237 Před 7 měsíci +5

    The clearest example and comparison to this ‘scandal’ is seeing a country at the bottom of the CPI (Corruption Perceptions Index) list suddenly charge, usually an opposition, with corruption. Everyone knows it’s happening, everyone is doing the same thing, but for whatever reason, be it sacrificial or assassination of character, it’s simple a ruse.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Před 7 měsíci

      That list is complete BS anyway. Im Dutch. My country is near the top of that list. Supposedly corruption here is negligible. In reality, people are just better at getting away with it.
      The CPI doesnt measure corruption. It measures how good or bad people are at corruption. Just like drug testing doesnt reveal who is on PEDs. It reveals how good or bad the doctors are.

  • @TravisTheRudyFox
    @TravisTheRudyFox Před 7 měsíci +14

    I always wanted a world where steroids in sports are not forbiden, just to witness how far organizations are willing to destroy their stars for that sweet cash income. Imagne a team of liver kings with visible mutations beating all the records just to die days after the event.

    • @abaofifsz
      @abaofifsz Před 7 měsíci

      Well death would affect the bottom line

  • @RobustMustache
    @RobustMustache Před 7 měsíci +10

    Basketball is one of the harder sports to gain muscle. You basically spend the entire season in a catabolic state due to the loads of cardio you are doing on a near daily basis. So the only time you have a chancel to get anabolic and actually put on muscle is in the few months of offseason, but they you are immediately forced back into that catabolic state. And every year you get old past 28/30 its going to be harder and harder to put that muscle on.

    • @Anon-qp3kt
      @Anon-qp3kt Před 2 měsíci

      You don't have to gain anything. For NBA they just need recovery roids

  • @strawberrysherbet96
    @strawberrysherbet96 Před 7 měsíci +3

    They juicing. That’s why no basketball podcast talks about it. Just look at Dwight in his prime. Bro was benching 400ibs. Once it hit the 2010 eras and after that everyone got big just like him. (Giannis, Lebron, etc)

  • @user-pk8uf3er7v
    @user-pk8uf3er7v Před 7 měsíci +6

    So you’re telling me that a person who is constantly practicing lifting and playing an 82 game schedule is abusing PEDs.

    • @candycrystalpremium
      @candycrystalpremium Před 7 měsíci

      Nah man Steph Curry is relying on the Bible and his wife's amazing cooking 😂😂

  • @ImperivmCineres
    @ImperivmCineres Před 7 měsíci +8

    Secretagogue is such a good metal band name

  • @Fluffyboi95
    @Fluffyboi95 Před 6 měsíci +2

    It killed my testerone levels because I got convinced that it was side effect free. Thanks too a year cycle of pregnyl, my levels are back to normal and my doctor decided too take me off it and my levels have been normal for 6 months now. Don’t do it boys just don’t. Get checked for sleep apnea if your having poor sleep quality even if your not overweight.

  • @LowkAlexander
    @LowkAlexander Před 7 měsíci +3

    The problem with saying they’re all juicing is we don’t know how where and when these guys are doing it. In baseball a guy got caught with a book full of athletes on PEDs that used his clinic. Without outlining a system of doping it’s not going to be taken seriously or believed by most fans/leagues

  • @seriousbutfunny2
    @seriousbutfunny2 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Saying the pro athletes don't take PED's is like saying Hollywood actresses don't get plastic surgery. Some don't. But most do.

  • @rudysmith1552
    @rudysmith1552 Před 7 měsíci +56

    Oh no this is breaking news next up the sky is blue and water is wet

    • @geneticsPK
      @geneticsPK Před 7 měsíci

      Water isn’t wet. Being wet implies something can be dried off. Water can’t be dried off itself. Water makes things wet but it in itself isn’t wet.

    • @Distophic
      @Distophic Před 7 měsíci +8

      I hate to be that guy but water is not wet, it makes things wet.

    • @evileyesense
      @evileyesense Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@DistophicYea, water can be anything. It can even be fire, and cut like obsidian.

    • @evileyesense
      @evileyesense Před 7 měsíci +1

      To say water is wet is absurd.

    • @Tell-lie-vision
      @Tell-lie-vision Před 7 měsíci +1

      Water isnt wet it makes things wet

  • @TCGreggy
    @TCGreggy Před 7 měsíci +11

    You really are the best, man. You’re truly a comedian that does his research. It’s too bad we live in a world where the Nelk boys get more attention than you for drinking and ripping off their fans. That alone says how lost this world is. You’re the man!

  • @Wolfgang---
    @Wolfgang--- Před 7 měsíci +9

    But right before bed, the third eye awakened

  • @treesmoke
    @treesmoke Před 7 měsíci +62

    You might be surprised at how long it probably took for steroids to be obviously present in the NBA. It may have been the last sport to be absorbed. I am sure they were using PEDs in the 90s but not any type of roids. From what I heard it was because they were worried that weight training would affect their shooting. And while they practiced, weight training and dieting was looked down upon by players. Up until the mid-00s you would be able to find a diversity of body types mostly skinny but also fatties. Since 2010 almost everyone in the NBA looks like a version of schwarzenegger.

    • @Ascending11
      @Ascending11 Před 7 měsíci

      Look at pedo Malone. Not hard to see, it's just people turned a blind eye.

    • @sambear6079
      @sambear6079 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Ive known they're on steroids because look at the college players all skinny especially since they're tall. Then look at the NBA players. It's obvious they're not natural. You can't get that big while being that tall without roids.

    • @t-god2439
      @t-god2439 Před 7 měsíci +1

      That is a great observation

    • @strangeclouds7
      @strangeclouds7 Před 7 měsíci +6

      ​@@sambear6079Uh you realize college kids are literally still teenagers. They don't grow into their bodies until their mid 20s

    • @Raineri5112
      @Raineri5112 Před 7 měsíci

      Everyone can literally get majority of their gains in 3 years after puberty if they train correctly. Also why their shoulders suddenly blow up after joining NBA.. something to do with androgen receptors heh. Basketball players should not have shoulders like bodybuilders.. most of their strength training is about legs.@@strangeclouds7

  • @rdbh8758
    @rdbh8758 Před 7 měsíci +4

    its crazy to me that there are people who believe that there isnt at least a majority of pro athletes who are on juice. if you think lebron is doing this without le hgh (hgh btw is almost impossible to test for since it metabolizes within a few days) then i cant help you.

    • @strangeclouds7
      @strangeclouds7 Před 7 měsíci

      I think hgh and sarms are very likely being used but I doubt the majority of players are blasting cycles. The do get tested often and randomly also

    • @rdbh8758
      @rdbh8758 Před 7 měsíci

      @@strangeclouds7 everyone is taking steroids and you are naive if you don’t think so

    • @strangeclouds7
      @strangeclouds7 Před 7 měsíci

      @@rdbh8758 I can't speak for other sports but for the NBA it's just not feasible. They get tested at the start of season, end of season, and multiple randoms during the season. I guess unless they're doing it in the off season maybe. And no I'm not naive. My dad literally worked on the medical staff of an NBA team for 20+ years. He still works on athletes to this day

  • @strangeadv4977
    @strangeadv4977 Před 7 měsíci +10

    The Tokyo Drift continues Phil 🤘 Keep it up man!!

    • @stz03
      @stz03 Před 7 měsíci

      To the million!

  • @queefqueefington
    @queefqueefington Před 7 měsíci +2

    That suspension is crazy compared to for example UFC, where if you got caught by USADA you often got a 2 year suspension

    • @MrKingladder
      @MrKingladder Před 7 měsíci

      Idk I don’t think it’s a big deal tbh.

    • @queefqueefington
      @queefqueefington Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@MrKingladder idgaf if they use all the steroids in basketball, but in the ufc it definitely is a big deal because you are trying to cause as much damage to another human being

    • @MrKingladder
      @MrKingladder Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@queefqueefington that’s what I mean not a big deal. Obviously in ufc it should be cracked down.

  • @jacobengle8035
    @jacobengle8035 Před 7 měsíci +15

    I need more Keys to the VIP content

  • @mateusbez2669
    @mateusbez2669 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Americans when Russian test positive for PED - multi year ban. Ban from the sport!
    Americans when American athletes test positive for PEDs - 25 matches.
    I’ve lost respect for the anti drug policy of the NBA in the Deandre Ayton case. Guy was suddenly ripped, got tested positive, took a ban on a few meaningless regular season games… and a short time later was an important part of a finals team.

  • @hurkulees
    @hurkulees Před 7 měsíci +7

    best video in a while phil, super informative and clear and succinct. 10/10 ily

  • @Nomiaz
    @Nomiaz Před 6 měsíci +2

    People here should watch the video of players that play in the two basketball 🏀 team in the world: Real Madrid and Denver Nuggets and you'll notice the difference. Many European players that I watched personally live playing in the euroleague when they went to the NBA in a short time they've doubled the muscular mass. How is it possible? Why when they were in Europe they weren't as big as when they started playing in the NBA?

  • @myunwantedopinionpodcast9579
    @myunwantedopinionpodcast9579 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I actually watch the NBA and though I've even participated in the argument of the build of "today's player" versus then..... 'Using' never crossed my mind for some reason 🥴🤦🏽 You're right. Nobody talks about it especially in the NBA.

  • @akultisgod5538
    @akultisgod5538 Před 4 měsíci +1

    if you play pickup ball at your local park, and if you play hard, your entire body will be sore for about 2-3 days. now imagine playing 82 games, against the best players on earth, on television, while sleeping on buses and planes, for years- with hundreds of millions of dollars depending on your performance... and you dont think theyre on peds?

  • @ahicksSF415
    @ahicksSF415 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I was just thinking about this today 😂! Great minds think alike. Thanks for the fire vid, bro!

  • @_gw33do_
    @_gw33do_ Před 7 měsíci +3

    There’s a federal investigation with his manager, trainer and wife named for banned substances with BioGenesis. There was definitely products mailed to their home in his wife’s name, but of course they weren’t for him, his wife is an elite athlete too right? 😂

  • @GOATMENTATOR
    @GOATMENTATOR Před 7 měsíci +4

    I have a lot of insight in this topic particularly specific to pro basketball and you nailed everything exactly right. Your examples about the recovery, the amount of games that are played in only one season, Lebron - everything that I would say if I had to make a video about this. The amount of stress to their bodies is not sustainable - even with PEDs injuries happen a lot but NBA can't trim down the season because of money ofcourse.
    Another important thing that you didn't mention is using HGH during teenage years to grow taller. Just look at example like Anthony Davis - completely ridiculous..

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Lebron is obvious. Lets talk about it. The NBA didn't start testing for HGH UNTIL 2015. The NBA made this announcement a few years prior.
      Before the 2015 season (summer of 2014) Lebron and several of the top players in the NBA all lost a lot of weight and muscle mass. They were all saying it was because of their new Keto diet. This was the season when Lebron started the season playing pretty bad and looking tired. Then Lebron goes to Miami in the middle of the season for a "break" and come back with his muscle mass back.
      He's literally been busted. Now add on the fact that his business partner got caught ordering HGH and his friend's trainer got caught.

    • @GOATMENTATOR
      @GOATMENTATOR Před 7 měsíci

      @@MikeBNumba6 yea, extremely obvious. also is it me or dwayne wades jaw became larger and larger as the years went by? :D

  • @killerspartan666
    @killerspartan666 Před 7 měsíci +2

    2:37 for a second, i thought you were saying grandmas hips were being abused by 17 year olds at my local gym 😅

  • @braidenb3973
    @braidenb3973 Před 7 měsíci +7

    The funniest part was when the cavs said that Thompson will lead by example to the younger players on and off the court. When he’s probably most known for being a habitual cheater 😂

    • @WestCoastAce27
      @WestCoastAce27 Před 7 měsíci

      Knocking chicks up too. Great role model. LOL!

  • @cyrillyons1531
    @cyrillyons1531 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Former basketball player from the fourth grade to sophmore year in junior college. I can only give my opinion and with the incredible capabilities of these players and their ability to play massive seasons and recover is why I agree with the 3rd eye!!!!

  • @myTERAexperience
    @myTERAexperience Před 7 měsíci +3

    Kobe and others took/take it so they can more easily handle 19 year old maids. 😬
    Their victims won't forget it when people heap praise, when they see Kobe's Body Armor drink on store shelves, etc. So no, i won't let people forget it either.

    • @abaofifsz
      @abaofifsz Před 7 měsíci

      The “victim” bragged about the money she would get. She also bragged about the encounter at a party. Her ex friend also claims she tried to pull a similar stunt with eminem.
      The story itself is too nebulous to make a determination of innocence or guilt without having obvious bias.

    • @myTERAexperience
      @myTERAexperience Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@abaofifsz that's the type of rhetoric his defense team put out there along with many other things to discredit her. They bullied, threatened, etc. the victim. In the end, Kobe admitted they had sx. She had bruising. He paid her. Those are 3 undeniable facts.
      If his defense team actually had witnesses they would have went to trial and destroyed her like they did in the public eye.

  • @BraveJake
    @BraveJake Před 7 měsíci +2

    Using PEDs in pro sports is one of the few instances where I totally understand the reasoning for using them. It is sad though that we can’t just get them out of the NBA.

  • @goomaboi
    @goomaboi Před 7 měsíci +5

    lifting phillion is back

  • @1roundleft821
    @1roundleft821 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Remember when Manny Ramirez was at the top of his game in the early 2000's, failed a drug test in 2003 and the mlb swept it under the rug until he started to age and wash up in 2008?
    If you're making money for an American sports league they're going to do everything in their power to sweep allegations under the rug. Once you're no good anymore though, it's open season.

  • @djastrembsky
    @djastrembsky Před 7 měsíci +8

    There a good video breaking down some of lebrons use throughout the years. Finding loopholes even in his heat days.

    • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
      @user-pg7cx9wo1m Před 7 měsíci

      Oh stop it, you haters sounds ridiculous!! KING JAMES IS THE GOAT

    • @HughWanztino
      @HughWanztino Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-pg7cx9wo1m im a lebron fan since he was in high school but the dude 100% is juicing, but i think theres nothing wrong with juicing. it should be okay for all players.

  • @stefanspeno
    @stefanspeno Před 7 měsíci +1

    I like when the nfl rookies get on the gear and post a before and after picture over the span of 2-3 months

  • @saint-miscreant
    @saint-miscreant Před 7 měsíci +8

    as a skinny gal who’s got no interest in big gainz and knows little about steroids, i’m just here to hear you call out the industry and bash fitness people 😆

    • @user-nt4dg8kw4t
      @user-nt4dg8kw4t Před 7 měsíci +1

      then please do not take this at face value, very informative and entertaining video, but this guy clearly (as he admitted himself) has very little basketball knowledge. strength really doesn't mean as much on the court as this guy thinks it does, take a look at guys like shai-gilgeous alexander and tell me hes on roids. i have no doubt that the nba has a ped problem, but the best of the best really don't need them. i think the only real solid examples he gave were giannis (who got MASSIVE and grew a couple of inches after he made the league) and lebron. kareem abdul jabbar was making all star teams in his late thirties in the 1980's. lebron's longevity is nothing new, it's the fact that he is so skilled and has such a high basketball iq that sets him apart. im not trying to mansplain or anything like that, im very passionate about basketball, and when people unintentionally mislead it gets to me a lil bit.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-nt4dg8kw4tso you’re discrediting what Derrick Ross said? Also, you you believe Derrick refused to use steroids after those career ending surgeries?

    • @DannyHDpsn
      @DannyHDpsn Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-nt4dg8kw4t With all due respect, It's about endurance, not strength my dude. He points it out all over the video.
      Do you think the average nba star playing 70/82 games (without playoffs) day by day while weightlifting and practising in between those games gets enough rest to perform at the highest level ? (scoring, passing, playing defence, crossing over at insane speeds)
      Again, I' m not talking about bench warmers (you could make a case about a couple of people but not the general nba player curve)
      Fairies do not exist. Sports people at elite levels juice, it's not the end of the world.
      Or as the wise Nate Diaz said: "everybody's on steroids" (whether it's peptides, sarms, hormones, designer drugs, you name it)

    • @user-nt4dg8kw4t
      @user-nt4dg8kw4t Před 7 měsíci +1

      @DannyHDpsn yeah youre right dawg after i saw your comment i rewatched the video. i need to stop taking concussive blows to my noggin or sum mang.

  • @KODAKJACK47
    @KODAKJACK47 Před 7 měsíci +1

    To an extent though you kinda discredit a lot of ppl who do shoot the basketball 50k times and get monster shoulders. When I was hooping everyday I had some kawhi Leonard ass shoulders all natty so it’s not just that. I think it’s more based around the longevity / healing process standpoint for most guys rather than muscle growth. Figuring majority of the guys in the league aren’t super built (Paul George KD Brunson Luka Tre Young)

  • @hoodiegriffo
    @hoodiegriffo Před 7 měsíci +23

    As a lebron fan, there’s absolutely no way he hasn’t taken steroids at some point in his career 😂

    • @justineebourgeois3420
      @justineebourgeois3420 Před 7 měsíci

      LBJ is 100% natural, stop being a hater son 🤷‍♀️

    • @hoodiegriffo
      @hoodiegriffo Před 7 měsíci

      @@justineebourgeois3420 I literally said I’m a lebron fan are u fucking brain dead? 😂😂😂

    • @hoodiegriffo
      @hoodiegriffo Před 7 měsíci

      @@justineebourgeois3420 literally said I’m a lebron fan, are you brain dead?

    • @stormteam3004
      @stormteam3004 Před 7 měsíci +5

      The way you stated it makes it sound like maaay e he used them once or twice. NICE TRY! He has used them throughout!!!!

    • @justineebourgeois3420
      @justineebourgeois3420 Před 7 měsíci

      @@stormteam3004 hating on greatness 🤦‍♀️

  • @HumunculousInPants
    @HumunculousInPants Před 7 měsíci +1

    Professional basketball has been no more than a circus for over half a decade now. It doesn't take skill any more, it takes freaks of nature and puts them against each other. It's the equivalent of midget wrestling. I have no idea why anyone would think of it as a genuine sport worth a single serious thought.

    • @user-pg7cx9wo1m
      @user-pg7cx9wo1m Před 7 měsíci

      You're OBVIOUSLY a non sport playing white American, correct ?????

  • @DarknessEssense
    @DarknessEssense Před 7 měsíci +3

    Video looking much less grainy than usual, nice.

  • @sweatswithcruise
    @sweatswithcruise Před 7 měsíci +1

    Secretegog has to be the the religious sanctuary they do the doping in

  • @daysandwords
    @daysandwords Před 7 měsíci +3

    Loving the new clean lit A roll Phil. Looks like it's on PEDs.

  • @scizorbullet8185
    @scizorbullet8185 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I know most fans of this channel probably don't watch sports but Tristian Thompson took Sarns to average a whooping 3 points 3 rebounds and 1 assist. Which is extremely bad lmfao

  • @23ofSeptember
    @23ofSeptember Před 7 měsíci +7

    The NBA has been so focused on tested for the "other drugs" that they completely ignored PEDS.

    • @a.c.slater7989
      @a.c.slater7989 Před 7 měsíci

      It’s not football. You aren’t cracking skulls by dunking a little too hard.

  • @apocratos0174
    @apocratos0174 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Jesus christ
    Enough with this "roid problem" already...
    EVERY TOP ATHLETE IS ON SOMETHING....

  • @aeonstar293
    @aeonstar293 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Last 10 seconds had me dying ngl

  • @michaell6645
    @michaell6645 Před měsícem

    Imagine Chet Holmgren & Wemby just getting absolutely jacked in the off season in exchange for a 25 game suspension 😂

  • @1man1year150
    @1man1year150 Před 7 měsíci +4

    We need to keep him protected because he’s exposing so many different people

    • @candycrystalpremium
      @candycrystalpremium Před 7 měsíci

      The NBA cares way more about their Chinese market than exposing athletes

  • @champbrown5011
    @champbrown5011 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Clearly clickbate 😂so I’m a recently retired overseas player. Peds are not rampant in basketball! I had one teammate in college that took them(he was from Lithuania) and I heard rumors of one American guy playing in Japan taking them. Friends with nba players and guys overseas, we talk about these things. Peds are not a problem in basketball!! We don’t need that label!!

    • @DannyHDpsn
      @DannyHDpsn Před 7 měsíci

      Europe is a different ball game. Minutes are less, games are a third of those in the nba. Basketball stars and most of the NBA is definitely on juice (whether peptides, sarms, designer drugs you name it). You can't expect anyone playing day by day 82 games without playoffs averaging 30 ppg and being consistent, crossing over at insane speeds, playing defence and practising without rest. Compare the average nba player body to the average european basketball player. These guys are jacked to the bones, weightlifting and running up and down the court everyday no sweat.

    • @champbrown5011
      @champbrown5011 Před 7 měsíci

      @@DannyHDpsnnba has been around way before the designer drugs. If there was a steroid problem it would be known about just like all the other drug scandals that have happened in the nba. Peds won’t really have an effect in basketball. This video is click bait

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry985 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Lebron and Kobe are prime examples of ped use

  • @330wiz7
    @330wiz7 Před 7 měsíci +2

    As a Cavaliers fan i can tell you if you had watched TT since he got here and watched him last year....
    Hes definitely on some shit. You could actually slide a piece of paper under his shoe when he jumps now. Something was definitely up.