The NBA Has a Steroid Problem
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Is Sebastian okay? 🥺
Elton Jantjies who plays Rugby for the Bokke (South Africa’s National team number 10 + Captain) got banned for 4 years the other day for taking PEDs (Clenbuterol I believe). NBA truly is a joke. Also how the fuck are you supposed to run into men every week at full speed without getting hurt or worse? I mean like give them all the juice they need
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The implication of the “LeBron spends millions on his body every year, what dedication!” Statement flys over so many people’s heads it’s almost hilarious
Yeah millions on grass fed beef and organic quinoa obviously
They don’t wanna acknowledge that small million reason fsct
For real. I doubt the man just spending it on premium cuts of meat, veggies, muscle milk, and physical therapy😂
@@thewonarmedbandit5615I mean to be fair he’s definitely spending piles of $ on that stuff too lol. He travels w a private chef, hyperbaric chamber or w/e (it’s looks sort of like a giant sleeping bag that zips up) etc. It’s not like you just take roids and become enormous without putting the work in. Not saying he doesn’t do anything, just saying he obviously takes care of his body in traditional ways….and that he obv works out and trains.
@@thewonarmedbandit5615 😂😂😂😂 right there’s millionaire trainers and bron got like 2 of those 🤦🏿♂️. He’s almost there already, then add on facilities doctors and supplements sheeeeeet
In every professional league, people are juicing. When your life is centered around your athleticism, you have every incentive to use PEDs.
Especially if the repercussions are so minimal!
plus only well off people get to play sports growing up, so they are basically primed to do whatever cheating is available due to seeing their parents get rewarded for being scumbags to other people to get financially ahead. i used to get bullied by the parents(and their hellspawn) who had enough money to put their little narcissists in the position to roleplay as athletes for attention. thats another thing about sports that just makes it boring to watch, knowing that those arent elite athletes out there, and they would probably be the least talented of all people alive who could play if they werent priced out of it. all the people we consider to be the best of the best in every sport would be made to look average or even bad if everyone who was athletic had the opportunity to play sports.
In the words of Nate Diaz, “everyone’s on steroids”
@@saturationstation1446 this is hilarious. American professional sports leagues are absolutely filled with people who grew up in poverty and bad living situations of all varieties, not a bunch of spoiled rich kids who happened to luck into a professional sports career.
I am 195 cm. It's a nightmare to build muscle at that height, but I am hobbit in the NBA. Look at their frames.
If y’all think that Lebron is still playing like a demon after 21 years and is natty you are out of your mind
Kinda wonder if taking such things at a later stage in life is more beneficial than harmful trade off?
Lebron isn’t playing like a demon tho he’s getting worse and worse every year. I don’t disagree that he’s doping but the biggest fallacy in this video is Phillions dismissal of improving training technology, regimens, and nutrition.
he’s for sure on some HGH
NBA is like flag football these days
At his age he most likely is using some form of anti-aging (TRT,HGH)
Former college athlete, people don't understand what 10-15x your bodyweight in impact force feels like. HORRIBLE. It's not surprising the NBA has rampant peptide use.
Is it really rampant? Suspensions are pretty rare it's not like every other week a new player is caught taking it
Khloe will fix Tristan lol
@@Jack-jx6lnIts hypothetically rampant. No one can really know how many people are doing it because the way drug tests are held they can usually use peds based around them and have it out of their system by the time they are tested. This is also why most bodybuilders haven’t been “caught” even tho it is extremely obvious.
@@Jack-jx6lnbc they dont test for 99% of shit lol
It's absolutely not rampant. It would provide minimal advantage in the modern NBA where agility and outside shooting are necessities as most teams run 4 players on the perimeter on offense. Even 5s have to be able to shoot 3s. It would help with injury recovery but it's not going to help you make an NBA roster. @@DirtyStinky
As someone who tried out clean for two professional teams (not the NBA), I want to thank you for this video. It is the most accurate assessment of what has been going on in professional athletics over the past 30 years that I have found.
What are you suggesting you didn't get anywhere because you were natty? Of course you could've made the nba. "Well done".
nah bro u just sucked
I find it hilarious how people legitimately think that every sport in the country has rampant PED use but the NBA somehow doesnt 😂 like come on man open your eyes the NBA just allows it because their league would end if they suspended a LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Curry, etc.
I think kobe is already banned (from this plane of existence)
The fact that u jump to ped to explain why these athletes are gteat just shows insecurity
Why would the league end? Baseball didn’t end. Football didn’t end. Cycling didn’t end.
What makes the nba different?
@@jamespohl-md2eq I guess for cycling the doping itself is an art form/institution that goes way back. The shit Lance did for competitive Peleton was a build up of former top peleton pros decades before that defined how to hide doping and having tabs with staff/scientists of the anti-doping committee.
@@darryelphillip5219 lmao buddy its 2024, there isnt a single physical sport left on the planet that is clean
this video reminds me of my pharmacology lecturer's favouraite phrase: "a drug that has no side effects has no effects"
good video on explaining complicated pharmacology
Bro dropped 4 pts and they said “naw, this man is def on the juice” lmao
It is interesting they pop a guy who only plays a little. No all-stars are getting long suspensions. TV ratings can’t be threatened.
PEDs without a single enhanced performance is crazy
This comment is so underrated LMFAO
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@seamuscavanaugh5933 he's been playing well of the bench for the cavs.
People would lose their minds if they knew what Tiger Woods all took. Him and Bryson DeChambeau basically doubled in size and then deflated like balloons.
Tiger has definitely used stuff in the past and probably recently. I'm sure he used it for performance, but he has an injury list as long as a dictionary too lol. I bet a lot of it had to do with recovery because he used to come back from injuries absurdly fast. I don't really think Bryson was on anything though. He definitely got bigger and stronger, but he also put on a ton of fat. What he did wasn't really that hard to do naturally. Especially when your job is being a pro athlete.
@@LTR1420yeah that fat piles on once you stop training, muscles still hurt and need food for energy as it’s still active muscle even if injured
Tiger absolutely. Bryson just put on tons of fat while lifting a lot, he ate like a lunatic and never had any physique signs, honestly think he was natural
Hold on.. Did this idiot just say tiger and beau... You mean a guy that grew up and was never over 200 pounds is the same as beau who is 265 pounds and head is as big as a watermelon and we saw him 2 years prior at 190 pounds... Gtfoh... Tiger was kicking azz since high school, college and pros..... He just didn't wake up and started winning.... And beau still ain't winning
Tiger’s dad was 5’7”, mom 5’2” - so his dad gave him HGH to get tall so he could hit the ball a mile (long arms, wider arc, more speed); then who know what cocktail he was on when he went pro - at Stanford he was 6’1” 145lbs.
Man had back to back 6 point games and they said nah we need to drug test this guy 😂
xD
😂
But on a serious note, that's precisely why they did it, players who score 30 points are too important for the ratings
As an European, 82 games a seaon + playoff is so wild, it's mental. Can't even blame the players for juicing up, it's just part of the game.
NBA today is like where MLB was 25 yrs ago. It's rampant with all the roids.
we juice in Europe too tho, don't worry
They're trying to reduce it from 82 but it's not easy. The players hate it but the teams like the revenue generated from each game, from tickets and television deals. The tv networks aren't going to pay the same amount of money to the league to air fewer games
@@Anatolij86 yeah. the difference is that Pogba got a 4 year ban which is ending his career, not a 25 game ban
So THE NBA wants us to believe Tristan Thompson is the only player in the entire NBA using Steroids or PEDS LOL
Brb going to the gym to shoot a basketball a couple thousand reps for those 3D delts 💪
hey, how did your training go? cannonballs or what?
lol you know it’s naturally it’s impossible to train for ball and do weightlifting for muscle growth at the same days/weeks. Natural recovery does not allow that.
I've been saying for years that Leroid is on the juice. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who knew this.
Everyone is juicing my dude not just leroid but your favorite player too
@@salty3069 George niang??
@@Pidea14luke kornet??
@@salty3069 Well, Kobe is dead. So, not likely.
Lebron is obvious. Lets talk about it. The NBA didn't start testing for HGH UNTIL 2015. The NBA made this announcement a few years prior.
Before the 2015 season (summer of 2014) Lebron and several of the top players in the NBA all lost a lot of weight and muscle mass. They were all saying it was because of their new Keto diet. This was the season when Lebron started the season playing pretty bad and looking tired. Then Lebron goes to Miami in the middle of the season for a "break" and come back with his muscle mass back.
He's literally been busted. Now add on the fact that his business partner got caught ordering HGH and his friend's trainer got caught.
I like this hybrid docu-commentary style. You’re always levelling up.
Pro sports injury: severe bone break, torn ligs/tendons etc - out 1 week
Normal person injury: minor sprain, back pain - out 6mo - 1yr
Thats a fucking lie and u know it
@@darryelphillip5219 uhh ok? 🤔
Lol that's a fucking weak human, It takes 3 days for my ankle sprain heal, 1 week for a pulled muscle.
Why don't coaches/management test the entire team? Instead of singling out a few players. Probably because the entire team would be suspended. Think about it.
Rob Gronkowski once came back from open back surgery in 6months that’s damn near impossible
Steroids is commonly used in injury recovery.
Nice to see you getting back to your roots.
No way LeBron is on juice.
He's got that inhuman physique and recovery from sleeping on his new Helix mattress.
he recovers with spite cranberry
@@Ian-oe9wp have a sprite cranberry
@@discipleofdagon8195That better not be cranberry.. juice
LeBron talent was given by GOD
"Shooting builds your shoulders"
Google a picture of Larry Birds shoulders after 20 years of nonstop high release shots....
you don't often shoot with both hands, especially from distance like that. hope this is sarcasm lol
"Are you guys off to the synagogue tonight?"
"Nah brah, were off to the secretagogue"
All high level athletes are juicing especially the top elite stars of each sport NFL, NBA, MLB, NFL or any other sport leagues. The superstars of each league paying the best medical staffs money can buy to hide these elite drugs not detective by medical testing.
Not all
Cavs fan here. When they announced they were bringing him back I was definitely scratching my head. Then saw him play and thought wow he looks like he shaved a few years off with his play aggressively grabbing rebounds, moving quickly in the paint and even getting into a scuffle and getting ejected from a game. Not two weeks later here we are and it all makes sense
Sorry you haters, LeBron James was playing like this in High school!! No juice involved
I mean won’t deny that he was playing physical with the lakers, his personal life could have really ignited something within him. I’ve always been a fan of him but never really thought of him as such an aggressive player (in a good way)
In rugby, you get banned for 4 years. South African rugby players were banned for doping for 4 years
Rugby has to be one of the most juiced sport ever, I mean...just look at them! (A specially the south Africans!)
Now it is true that they seem to be more harsh on bans.
@@ju-v6926 as a South African, I can confirm that it’s especially a problem at the lower levels. Particularly at High School and University level
@@OkuhleNtshweni crazy, I played rugby for 10 years (France), didn't see anything at younger ages. Then for the pros, who knows.
@@OkuhleNtshweniExce mnganam good to see a South African here🤝🏽🤝🏽🤝🏽im from caoe town wena ??
If they're caught
as a bball player with 20 years of experience and NBA fanatic, I can surely say that around 80% of NBA players are using some PEDs, and that 20% part probably exists only for those players who just haven't started to use something yet
yes, they are the best at this game but they wouldn't survive an 82-game regular season without some juice
and still you keep watching
It makes the product better.
These guys used to play like 8 games in 2 days for aau. Aau be having you play 3 games in a row.
Totally disagree
Most of them don’t play all 82 games though. They’ve even had debates and discussions about punishing players and teams for sitting and resting players. What do you think game and time management means.
Steroid use in sports is like plastic surgery in Hollywood. If you want to be a part of the discussion you can't ignore it.
Unless the NBA & the players association are willing to lose a huge chunk of fans and money, steroids aren't going anywhere.
I think what the league needs to do, is outline safe and accepted steroids and then test for anything they didn't sign-off on.
Okay, you think people was to pay premium prices for doped up athletes? That's funny. The whole purpose to watch sports were admire the skills and abilities of individuals that could perform feats the majority of human beings couldn't naturally. Add steroids and why would people be interested?
@@Fireman24TOIndeed. I think the NBA, and others, know how many people would get a bad taste in their mouth if the mass doping was an accepted fact and turn away real quick. I personally don't want to watch a bunch of guys taking shortcuts, especially since they'd still be elite athletes without the drugs. They ruin their own potential. Naturally, the industry itself needs to change to. Part of the problem is the demand placed on these guys.
@@RenegadeVile demand only comes from earning potential. The reason why they hide it, is because there's too much money in it.
@@Fireman24TO Yes. Same with how NBA managed to hide their image of having company men for refs and possible game fixing. If the image of the NBA integrity that the corporation presents to fans was ever ruined, fan money loss isn't the concern. Its loss of confidence from folks with actual money like TV/media companies, sponsors, investors, realtors, govt employees and such who work with the NBA.
The only way this can improve is if the public starts getting educated about the rampant drug use in sports. But I mean, Lance Armstrong got caught a long time ago, its commonly known everyone in pro cycling is on doping, and people just keep watching it. I dont think there is any way for this to get better.
The status quo exists because it is stable.
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2nded for the sleep benefit. I really don't gain much water weight. I do watch the carbs though when I'm on it.
A mattress doesn’t amount to shit compared to mk677 lol. I can sleep on bedrock while taking 15 mg of mk.
Shit put me to sleep like a toddler, got me drooling
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So wild I remember watching you roast Kenny ko into the shadow realm and now you’re almost at a mil subs. So incredible to see. To this day one of my favorite creators on the platform. Never stop killin it Phil. Love you tons
Former college athlete at least for football everyone who was serious about playing ball for d1 or even pro was on gear (I was in a d2) coaches know and play dumb using players they know who are clean in order to pass the supposed random drug test they do for players. Shame young men destroy themselves for education and for their colleges profit for a slim chance of fame
piss tests havent been adequate for many decades. as long as you have some money, you should never fail a test, because fake piss works very well and is not super expensive. probably plenty of ways to cheat blood tests too
My university (I was on the soccer team) had preferred doctors for its athletes. Pre-season, we’d all get sent for our physicals, get a referral, and a large amount of us would come away from the process with prescriptions for ADD meds. You know, Adderrall, etc. Stimulants.
NCAA D1. The Football team was the worst offender. Guess there were a bunch of dummies who needed the help idk. Disgusting behavior.
It’s 100% doping/performance enhancing.
I’m on mobile rn so I can’t edit my own comment…for some reason, but I encourage anyone who’s interested to look into the kinds of shady things schools do for their athletes. It should be illegal & constitute medical malpractice.
@@I_enjoy_some_things absolutely terrible and it is a shock no one talks about it NCAA is the most corrupting and soul/body crushing organization I have ever had the displeasure working with
i mean one of these substances is an IGF secretagogue. It would mainly assist recovery and if theres millions of dollars on the line given an injury i understand people doing whatever it takes
Reminds of the MLB in the late 90's when many players were juicing such as McGuire and Sosa. It was a conspiracy theory back then to suggest they were doing so.
What? Everyone knew it in real time. McGuire was bragging how they didn't test.
Juicing was the open secret for the MLB in the 80s/90s. Not only for those hitters but for my favorite pitcher then, 'The Rocket' Roger Clemens.
Dude they still are. It is easy. Microdose and test later in the day test negative.
Hes saying back then MLB is exactly like modern NBA. I have a buddy ive been arguing with for YEARS about how lebron is on roids. He still thinks hes natty😂 im gonna send him this@@t4d0W
It was obvious that they were doing it though. McGwire, sosa, clemens all had dips then major upswings in performance along being huge with bad acne and big heads
Making PEDs legal won't help. You'll just enable the richest to keep their advantage, albeit less significant. Then you still have the health complications, bad habits for role models and the fact that some respond to them better than others. It'll turn into a game of "who's juiced better?" At the highest levels.
The only thing that can be done is to drop the number of matches to something humane, increase the length of a season to space matches out more, and perform tests before each match. But they'll never do that because: they like mmmmoney!
The only way this could be fixed is if the general public became aware of the juicing and stopped watching sports where people juice. But if that could happen it would have happened already. The fact is that most people are too dumb to notice it, and if they did notice it they wouldnt care that the athletes are destroying their body for their entertainment.
Professional sports in modern day are gladiatorial combat. Just watch any football game. American or European football. Players get their heads cracked, sometimes die on the field, they are wheeled out on a stretcher, the crowd is cheering, and the game goes on.
@@TheSuperappelflap Maybe, but as cynical as I can also be, I'll much rather choose that a lot of people are simply ignorant of this and, eventually, might start voting with their wallet anyway.
You clearly do not watch sports. If a player gets close to death. No one is cheering. The athletes have a good understanding what they do is not good. If you have ever been a varsity or above athlete at any level any sport you are sacrificing your general health for performance.
Why is comparing something to a modern day gladiator a bad thing? You operating under that assumption and thinking that the majority of people agree with you is where your flaw in logic begins.
@@abaofifsz i do watch sports. i watch soccer sometimes because i live in europe. if a guy gets his skull cracked, the game is stopped, he gets carried out on a stretcher, people throw fireworks on the field, and after a few minutes the game continues.
your american sports arent any better. your version of football is a guarantee for encephalitis.
modern sports are just gladatorial combat with extra steps and extra drugs.
@@abaofifsz the flaw in my logic is indeed that i expect people to be civilized and not enjoy watching people kill themselves for money. clearly, a lot of people are barbarians who do enjoy that sort of thing.
There was an episode of futurama, where the professor says "that was before they made steroids mandatory" while at a baseball game. Maybe he was on to something haha
They were poking fun at the players who had recently come forward about their usage around the time the episode originally aired.
Dude, I just hit 40. I'm not a pro athlete or even an amateur but I've been consistently training since I was 23. I wish I could recover now as fast as I was doing it back then. Imagine doing it on the highest level where there's practice 2x/day plus strength and conditioning plus games. No way you can recover normally.
You should’ve just stopped at you’re no pro athlete. We’re not built or train or have the resources they have
My substance use disorder teacher talked to us about his NFL days, he played on the 49ers. When drug tests came up they always knew in advance, and some of the veteran guys had only been tested like once or twice in 16 years. They tested my teacher a ton since he was new and clean at the time
The marijuana tests in the NFL occur at training camp and they tell you when they're going to happen. Everyone knows. Anytime you've seen an NFL player get caught for weed in past years, it's because they're addicted to it or they're a gigantic idiot
Its laughable the mental gymnastics people do to try to deny the truth of professional athletes don't use steroids with that much money on the line who wouldn't want an edge over the competition
Excellent video mate
About time someone said it. Hopefully more start to follow your lead and expose these drug cheats
if you're wondering if an athlete is on steroids, ask yourself these questions. 1) Does their sport pay money? : If yes, then they're on juice. 2) Even if there is not much money in the sport, is it still very competitive?: If yes, then they're on juice.
The second one guy starts juicing, the whole league starts juicing. We have seen it time and time again.
I knew those darts guys were cheaters, who can hit that many treble twenties?
this. that behavior is super prevalent in eurocentric culture. its why we still pay 99% of laborers less than 1/10 the cost of living. because early euros made huge fortunes with slave labor so everyone afterwards always used that as their excuse for why they cant make money any other way than making people work for no compensation.
@@dualsportdadz probably meth heads at least. 80% of well off college kids abuse adderall aka prescription meth
I am futsaler. I am not even paid. Fulsal is fun as Hell. I have few injuries. I can speak for me. If I got paid money to play a sport professionally. Steroids would be hard to say no to.
@@dualsportdadz could be lol. plenty of drugs help for focus nowadays. the real bitch of it is even if money isn't involved you can still find juicers.
The NBA has the funniest punishments in sports
Flashing a gun: 25 games
Punching people: one month
Being Jeremy Lin: lifetime ban
Part of growing up and maturing is realizing that every professional athlete uses performance enhancing drugs.
Part of growing up and maturing is realizing that sweeping generalization is not the most intelligent way to make a case. You always end up being wrong.
He ain’t the only one. Trust me.
82 games a year? Plus playoffs?
I don’t even see why this is even a problem.
They all know it’s going on.
Lebron: Who taught you how to do this stuff?
Tristan: You, alright! I learned it by watching you!
Always insane to me how supplements don't need FDA approval. Lots of money in there i suppose...
well you can get all kind of poisonous stuff at ever supermarket, CVS or home depot and drink or inject it if you feel like it. At some point, it's individual responsiblity for what you put in your body.
They do need fda approval though. Its just not enforced at all because your government is broke af and the FDA is a joke just like every other watchdog and market agency you supposedly have, like the SEC or FTC.
The only 3 letter agencies in America that get funding and legally have power to do anything are the security agencies/
@@maxmeier532 those things have regulated labels and toxic symbols making it clear not to take this. Supplements can be misleadingly dangerous, that's the problem.
All sports should adopt the Tennis anti-doping penalties. Up to 4 year ban, and potentially required to re-pay any prize money if they are deemed disqualified from completed events. Typically the bans will be 2 years, but this is still super impactful for an athlete's career.
I mean the overall product would be worse than. They do not want that.
Oh please Serna Williams was doing so many steroids..her arms were ridiculous
Yawn. Have you looked at Serena's arms
I’m an athlete and I use PEDs, I cruise on trt during the down season just training woodcutting, runecrafting, etc.
but during deadman tournament I aggressively blast Tren and it’s given me an unfair advantage tbh
Respect the honesty 🫡
you suck.
It just sucks that you basically have to be on it for the rest of your life or your body wants to shut down
What kind athlete are you? (I mean, in what sport do you compete).
@@lMobiuscidlhe’s a professional skiller. Its a team based sport called group iron man.
records are getting smashed frequently in sports because the athletes are switching over to helix mattress for better sleep and recovery.
A good example of what you’re saying about nba players filling out their frames is Anthony Davis. I’m from Lexington Kentucky so I remember AD being skinny when he played with the Kentucky wildcats. One year in the NBA and he was stacked. I’m not saying nutrition and weights didn’t play a part but he looked different after one year in the NBA.
It's called being a teenager in college, while you're still growing, then going to a professional league where the number of games more than double and you're literally training 24/7 with the best nutrition and trainers in the world. Of course their bodies take a huge leap
@@strangeclouds7yea it’s all natural ur right. he went thru second puberty
@@pooploops Would you call a 18 or 19 year old a grown man? Would someone that age survive in the NFL? Most people's bodies are still maturing well into the mid 20s
He had a crazy growth spurt late in high school and that season at UK he was 18/19. Still growing into his body. He’s got elite genetics. He’s probably taking something but it’s more so for recovery. That’s what I believe most players are doing. Recovery is the issue.
His shoulders tell you he juiced bro 😂
I wonder if that Reacher actor took sarms, because he said his testosterone was obliterated from working out so hard for season one. Then he went on that testosterone booster stuff. It just all sounds dangerous and not worth it.
Thad Castle beats drug tests. It's what he does. He is the team captain and he says oil changes.
Edit. Go Goats
He definitely did
That dude is blasting a very luxurious cycle. He is 6'2 and weighs like 230, lean. Thats not just TRT bro. Thats eat clen and tren hard territory.
@@TheSuperappelflap Tren? Are you on the same plan?
I used to think steroids were a problem that didn’t affect me but I have two sons who do bjj and gymnastics respectively. I am genuinely terrified of the idea that my son who does bjj will one day go against some kid on steroids and get injured, or that my son who does gymnastics will go against people on juice and feel inadequate despite working his hardest
Injuries impossible if not using steroid? Or cant lose without opponent using steroid.
If youre afraid of those things take ur kids out of the sports.
@@antonolufayo7804this response is dumb. The power disparity between the natural athlete and the enhanced one would increase the risk of the natural athlete being injured in a 1v1 sport.
The greater problem is that the children will be inclined to experiment themselves if the feel the desire to be better and feel behind.
@arthurhardy3626 based on what?
lol bjj isn’t a real sport. Little Johnny might get his arm broken and that’s it.
@@andrewmarshall3519haha anyone who does bjj consistently would probably twist you like a pretzel. And in THAT sense. It’s realer than most sports out there. Not sponsored. I don’t participate. Just true.
The clearest example and comparison to this ‘scandal’ is seeing a country at the bottom of the CPI (Corruption Perceptions Index) list suddenly charge, usually an opposition, with corruption. Everyone knows it’s happening, everyone is doing the same thing, but for whatever reason, be it sacrificial or assassination of character, it’s simple a ruse.
That list is complete BS anyway. Im Dutch. My country is near the top of that list. Supposedly corruption here is negligible. In reality, people are just better at getting away with it.
The CPI doesnt measure corruption. It measures how good or bad people are at corruption. Just like drug testing doesnt reveal who is on PEDs. It reveals how good or bad the doctors are.
I always wanted a world where steroids in sports are not forbiden, just to witness how far organizations are willing to destroy their stars for that sweet cash income. Imagne a team of liver kings with visible mutations beating all the records just to die days after the event.
Well death would affect the bottom line
Basketball is one of the harder sports to gain muscle. You basically spend the entire season in a catabolic state due to the loads of cardio you are doing on a near daily basis. So the only time you have a chancel to get anabolic and actually put on muscle is in the few months of offseason, but they you are immediately forced back into that catabolic state. And every year you get old past 28/30 its going to be harder and harder to put that muscle on.
You don't have to gain anything. For NBA they just need recovery roids
They juicing. That’s why no basketball podcast talks about it. Just look at Dwight in his prime. Bro was benching 400ibs. Once it hit the 2010 eras and after that everyone got big just like him. (Giannis, Lebron, etc)
So you’re telling me that a person who is constantly practicing lifting and playing an 82 game schedule is abusing PEDs.
Nah man Steph Curry is relying on the Bible and his wife's amazing cooking 😂😂
Secretagogue is such a good metal band name
It killed my testerone levels because I got convinced that it was side effect free. Thanks too a year cycle of pregnyl, my levels are back to normal and my doctor decided too take me off it and my levels have been normal for 6 months now. Don’t do it boys just don’t. Get checked for sleep apnea if your having poor sleep quality even if your not overweight.
The problem with saying they’re all juicing is we don’t know how where and when these guys are doing it. In baseball a guy got caught with a book full of athletes on PEDs that used his clinic. Without outlining a system of doping it’s not going to be taken seriously or believed by most fans/leagues
Saying the pro athletes don't take PED's is like saying Hollywood actresses don't get plastic surgery. Some don't. But most do.
Oh no this is breaking news next up the sky is blue and water is wet
Water isn’t wet. Being wet implies something can be dried off. Water can’t be dried off itself. Water makes things wet but it in itself isn’t wet.
I hate to be that guy but water is not wet, it makes things wet.
@@DistophicYea, water can be anything. It can even be fire, and cut like obsidian.
To say water is wet is absurd.
Water isnt wet it makes things wet
You really are the best, man. You’re truly a comedian that does his research. It’s too bad we live in a world where the Nelk boys get more attention than you for drinking and ripping off their fans. That alone says how lost this world is. You’re the man!
But right before bed, the third eye awakened
You might be surprised at how long it probably took for steroids to be obviously present in the NBA. It may have been the last sport to be absorbed. I am sure they were using PEDs in the 90s but not any type of roids. From what I heard it was because they were worried that weight training would affect their shooting. And while they practiced, weight training and dieting was looked down upon by players. Up until the mid-00s you would be able to find a diversity of body types mostly skinny but also fatties. Since 2010 almost everyone in the NBA looks like a version of schwarzenegger.
Look at pedo Malone. Not hard to see, it's just people turned a blind eye.
Ive known they're on steroids because look at the college players all skinny especially since they're tall. Then look at the NBA players. It's obvious they're not natural. You can't get that big while being that tall without roids.
That is a great observation
@@sambear6079Uh you realize college kids are literally still teenagers. They don't grow into their bodies until their mid 20s
Everyone can literally get majority of their gains in 3 years after puberty if they train correctly. Also why their shoulders suddenly blow up after joining NBA.. something to do with androgen receptors heh. Basketball players should not have shoulders like bodybuilders.. most of their strength training is about legs.@@strangeclouds7
its crazy to me that there are people who believe that there isnt at least a majority of pro athletes who are on juice. if you think lebron is doing this without le hgh (hgh btw is almost impossible to test for since it metabolizes within a few days) then i cant help you.
I think hgh and sarms are very likely being used but I doubt the majority of players are blasting cycles. The do get tested often and randomly also
@@strangeclouds7 everyone is taking steroids and you are naive if you don’t think so
@@rdbh8758 I can't speak for other sports but for the NBA it's just not feasible. They get tested at the start of season, end of season, and multiple randoms during the season. I guess unless they're doing it in the off season maybe. And no I'm not naive. My dad literally worked on the medical staff of an NBA team for 20+ years. He still works on athletes to this day
The Tokyo Drift continues Phil 🤘 Keep it up man!!
To the million!
That suspension is crazy compared to for example UFC, where if you got caught by USADA you often got a 2 year suspension
Idk I don’t think it’s a big deal tbh.
@@MrKingladder idgaf if they use all the steroids in basketball, but in the ufc it definitely is a big deal because you are trying to cause as much damage to another human being
@@queefqueefington that’s what I mean not a big deal. Obviously in ufc it should be cracked down.
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Americans when Russian test positive for PED - multi year ban. Ban from the sport!
Americans when American athletes test positive for PEDs - 25 matches.
I’ve lost respect for the anti drug policy of the NBA in the Deandre Ayton case. Guy was suddenly ripped, got tested positive, took a ban on a few meaningless regular season games… and a short time later was an important part of a finals team.
best video in a while phil, super informative and clear and succinct. 10/10 ily
People here should watch the video of players that play in the two basketball 🏀 team in the world: Real Madrid and Denver Nuggets and you'll notice the difference. Many European players that I watched personally live playing in the euroleague when they went to the NBA in a short time they've doubled the muscular mass. How is it possible? Why when they were in Europe they weren't as big as when they started playing in the NBA?
I actually watch the NBA and though I've even participated in the argument of the build of "today's player" versus then..... 'Using' never crossed my mind for some reason 🥴🤦🏽 You're right. Nobody talks about it especially in the NBA.
if you play pickup ball at your local park, and if you play hard, your entire body will be sore for about 2-3 days. now imagine playing 82 games, against the best players on earth, on television, while sleeping on buses and planes, for years- with hundreds of millions of dollars depending on your performance... and you dont think theyre on peds?
I was just thinking about this today 😂! Great minds think alike. Thanks for the fire vid, bro!
There’s a federal investigation with his manager, trainer and wife named for banned substances with BioGenesis. There was definitely products mailed to their home in his wife’s name, but of course they weren’t for him, his wife is an elite athlete too right? 😂
I have a lot of insight in this topic particularly specific to pro basketball and you nailed everything exactly right. Your examples about the recovery, the amount of games that are played in only one season, Lebron - everything that I would say if I had to make a video about this. The amount of stress to their bodies is not sustainable - even with PEDs injuries happen a lot but NBA can't trim down the season because of money ofcourse.
Another important thing that you didn't mention is using HGH during teenage years to grow taller. Just look at example like Anthony Davis - completely ridiculous..
Lebron is obvious. Lets talk about it. The NBA didn't start testing for HGH UNTIL 2015. The NBA made this announcement a few years prior.
Before the 2015 season (summer of 2014) Lebron and several of the top players in the NBA all lost a lot of weight and muscle mass. They were all saying it was because of their new Keto diet. This was the season when Lebron started the season playing pretty bad and looking tired. Then Lebron goes to Miami in the middle of the season for a "break" and come back with his muscle mass back.
He's literally been busted. Now add on the fact that his business partner got caught ordering HGH and his friend's trainer got caught.
@@MikeBNumba6 yea, extremely obvious. also is it me or dwayne wades jaw became larger and larger as the years went by? :D
2:37 for a second, i thought you were saying grandmas hips were being abused by 17 year olds at my local gym 😅
The funniest part was when the cavs said that Thompson will lead by example to the younger players on and off the court. When he’s probably most known for being a habitual cheater 😂
Knocking chicks up too. Great role model. LOL!
Former basketball player from the fourth grade to sophmore year in junior college. I can only give my opinion and with the incredible capabilities of these players and their ability to play massive seasons and recover is why I agree with the 3rd eye!!!!
Kobe and others took/take it so they can more easily handle 19 year old maids. 😬
Their victims won't forget it when people heap praise, when they see Kobe's Body Armor drink on store shelves, etc. So no, i won't let people forget it either.
The “victim” bragged about the money she would get. She also bragged about the encounter at a party. Her ex friend also claims she tried to pull a similar stunt with eminem.
The story itself is too nebulous to make a determination of innocence or guilt without having obvious bias.
@@abaofifsz that's the type of rhetoric his defense team put out there along with many other things to discredit her. They bullied, threatened, etc. the victim. In the end, Kobe admitted they had sx. She had bruising. He paid her. Those are 3 undeniable facts.
If his defense team actually had witnesses they would have went to trial and destroyed her like they did in the public eye.
Using PEDs in pro sports is one of the few instances where I totally understand the reasoning for using them. It is sad though that we can’t just get them out of the NBA.
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Remember when Manny Ramirez was at the top of his game in the early 2000's, failed a drug test in 2003 and the mlb swept it under the rug until he started to age and wash up in 2008?
If you're making money for an American sports league they're going to do everything in their power to sweep allegations under the rug. Once you're no good anymore though, it's open season.
There a good video breaking down some of lebrons use throughout the years. Finding loopholes even in his heat days.
Oh stop it, you haters sounds ridiculous!! KING JAMES IS THE GOAT
@@user-pg7cx9wo1m im a lebron fan since he was in high school but the dude 100% is juicing, but i think theres nothing wrong with juicing. it should be okay for all players.
I like when the nfl rookies get on the gear and post a before and after picture over the span of 2-3 months
as a skinny gal who’s got no interest in big gainz and knows little about steroids, i’m just here to hear you call out the industry and bash fitness people 😆
then please do not take this at face value, very informative and entertaining video, but this guy clearly (as he admitted himself) has very little basketball knowledge. strength really doesn't mean as much on the court as this guy thinks it does, take a look at guys like shai-gilgeous alexander and tell me hes on roids. i have no doubt that the nba has a ped problem, but the best of the best really don't need them. i think the only real solid examples he gave were giannis (who got MASSIVE and grew a couple of inches after he made the league) and lebron. kareem abdul jabbar was making all star teams in his late thirties in the 1980's. lebron's longevity is nothing new, it's the fact that he is so skilled and has such a high basketball iq that sets him apart. im not trying to mansplain or anything like that, im very passionate about basketball, and when people unintentionally mislead it gets to me a lil bit.
@@user-nt4dg8kw4tso you’re discrediting what Derrick Ross said? Also, you you believe Derrick refused to use steroids after those career ending surgeries?
@@user-nt4dg8kw4t With all due respect, It's about endurance, not strength my dude. He points it out all over the video.
Do you think the average nba star playing 70/82 games (without playoffs) day by day while weightlifting and practising in between those games gets enough rest to perform at the highest level ? (scoring, passing, playing defence, crossing over at insane speeds)
Again, I' m not talking about bench warmers (you could make a case about a couple of people but not the general nba player curve)
Fairies do not exist. Sports people at elite levels juice, it's not the end of the world.
Or as the wise Nate Diaz said: "everybody's on steroids" (whether it's peptides, sarms, hormones, designer drugs, you name it)
@DannyHDpsn yeah youre right dawg after i saw your comment i rewatched the video. i need to stop taking concussive blows to my noggin or sum mang.
To an extent though you kinda discredit a lot of ppl who do shoot the basketball 50k times and get monster shoulders. When I was hooping everyday I had some kawhi Leonard ass shoulders all natty so it’s not just that. I think it’s more based around the longevity / healing process standpoint for most guys rather than muscle growth. Figuring majority of the guys in the league aren’t super built (Paul George KD Brunson Luka Tre Young)
As a lebron fan, there’s absolutely no way he hasn’t taken steroids at some point in his career 😂
LBJ is 100% natural, stop being a hater son 🤷♀️
@@justineebourgeois3420 I literally said I’m a lebron fan are u fucking brain dead? 😂😂😂
@@justineebourgeois3420 literally said I’m a lebron fan, are you brain dead?
The way you stated it makes it sound like maaay e he used them once or twice. NICE TRY! He has used them throughout!!!!
@@stormteam3004 hating on greatness 🤦♀️
Professional basketball has been no more than a circus for over half a decade now. It doesn't take skill any more, it takes freaks of nature and puts them against each other. It's the equivalent of midget wrestling. I have no idea why anyone would think of it as a genuine sport worth a single serious thought.
You're OBVIOUSLY a non sport playing white American, correct ?????
Video looking much less grainy than usual, nice.
Yes, quite crispy
Secretegog has to be the the religious sanctuary they do the doping in
Loving the new clean lit A roll Phil. Looks like it's on PEDs.
I know most fans of this channel probably don't watch sports but Tristian Thompson took Sarns to average a whooping 3 points 3 rebounds and 1 assist. Which is extremely bad lmfao
The NBA has been so focused on tested for the "other drugs" that they completely ignored PEDS.
It’s not football. You aren’t cracking skulls by dunking a little too hard.
Jesus christ
Enough with this "roid problem" already...
EVERY TOP ATHLETE IS ON SOMETHING....
Last 10 seconds had me dying ngl
Imagine Chet Holmgren & Wemby just getting absolutely jacked in the off season in exchange for a 25 game suspension 😂
We need to keep him protected because he’s exposing so many different people
The NBA cares way more about their Chinese market than exposing athletes
Clearly clickbate 😂so I’m a recently retired overseas player. Peds are not rampant in basketball! I had one teammate in college that took them(he was from Lithuania) and I heard rumors of one American guy playing in Japan taking them. Friends with nba players and guys overseas, we talk about these things. Peds are not a problem in basketball!! We don’t need that label!!
Europe is a different ball game. Minutes are less, games are a third of those in the nba. Basketball stars and most of the NBA is definitely on juice (whether peptides, sarms, designer drugs you name it). You can't expect anyone playing day by day 82 games without playoffs averaging 30 ppg and being consistent, crossing over at insane speeds, playing defence and practising without rest. Compare the average nba player body to the average european basketball player. These guys are jacked to the bones, weightlifting and running up and down the court everyday no sweat.
@@DannyHDpsnnba has been around way before the designer drugs. If there was a steroid problem it would be known about just like all the other drug scandals that have happened in the nba. Peds won’t really have an effect in basketball. This video is click bait
Lebron and Kobe are prime examples of ped use
how so?
How
Not kobe.
Stop hating !! LeBron been playing like this since high school
As a Cavaliers fan i can tell you if you had watched TT since he got here and watched him last year....
Hes definitely on some shit. You could actually slide a piece of paper under his shoe when he jumps now. Something was definitely up.