Looks like a great time. I recenty bought a T1x and some friends have RPR's and a Walther. We hope to try some of this. Thanks from Nova Scotia Canada.
Wow, pretty tough course. Congrats to Mini-X. Thanks for your recap on your match and experience on the Bergara carbon barrel. I went with the steel on my B14R
Looked like a very challenging day of shooting. I personally have the steel barrel b14r in an mdt xrs chassis and I am very pleased with it using sk rifle match. Two other shooters at my local range are using the carbon barrel b14r and consistency hasn't been great.
It's always great to see Ella enjoying herself and being successful. Best part of the competition. As for the rest of it - difficult. It may not have been up to your usual standards, placement wise, but you also were self-handicapped. I'm sure it is a great rifle, but it isn't your Vudoo. You've always preached that what matters is the Indian and not the arrow. But in this instance, the better arrow may have made a difference. That aside, it was a good competition, seemed like great weather, you had Ella at your side, Rick and Matt. That counts as a good day. Enjoyed watching, as always.
Thanks Sigboy as always! I really have it a fair shot and I think for this application the CF hurt me a bit. It would be great for hiking or hunting in the woods with it as it would be a better pick if weight savings were a concern. We did have a great time with great friends and thats all that really matters in the end. Thanks again and have a great week.
So the question is - how would you have done with the Vudoo? My steel Bergara out groups all of my friend's Vudoos. One even has a Vudoo with a Bartlein barrel.
I was wondering how the carbon wrapped barrel would preform. My B14-R is a steel barrel for the very reason you stated. Vertical stringing as it warmed up. Still good shooting in a tough match. Hat's off to Ella.
Mini tearin it up Even though i have the carbon, i would absolutely go with steel if it was a competition only rifle. I cant say ive noticed bad stringing, but perhaps the florida sun / heat brings its neutral state to a point where there is less of a shift once rounds start flying. Regardless, hard to see what advantage there would be to carbon in competition, other than lookin mad fly. After all, that is 37.8% of the battle. Perhaps i have some more testing to do.
I saw some bore photos of barrels cut and put under a microscope. I tried to find them again to link in this comment, but I haven't been able to after about 20 minutes searching. (If I do, I will follow up with link) Some of the barrels were much more polished, smoother, than others. I'm pretty sure the bergara wasn't one of the smoothest. When you are talking that next level accuracy and consistency, I think a high polish from lapping is going to help out. I don't know if vudoo polishes their barrels or not, but maybe you could ask your contact there...assuming they will tell you. Might be a secret!
Did you experiment with different action screw torque specs when verifying zero after removing the action from the factory chassis/stock and installing it into a new chassis? It was suggested to me by a friend when I had a 6.5 Grendel stringing and shooting worse in an MDT LSS-XL vs. my factory Ruger American Predator stock.
Mr. X-Ring, first I respect your shooting ability. Second I respect your knowledge. My question is this, What in your opinion, rifle shots most accurately for bench rest target? Maybe Vudoo or Anschutz, or what?
Hey James, I appreciate you watching. I think your best bet is to go with a custom build for bench rest target shooting. Otherwise, the Anschutz might be the best for a production rifle.
What chassis did you put your Bergara action into and how has it performed since? I have the steel version but I’m not super thrilled with the “stock” stock.
@@XRING thanks . On a different note . I was looking at the xlr chassis kit . I know you speak highly of them and I wanted to get your opinion on them . I’ve went with the standard stock it comes with and vertical grip . Have you had any issues with these two said items ?where they comfortable to use ? By meaning comfortable I meant do the ergonomic feel rite when working together?
@@70willard Hello Willard, one of the most comfortable and adjustable stocks I know of. The Vertical grip fits perfectly and I know Matt loves his as well. I do wish they had an option for the magazine release in the case of alignment problems with the .22’s.
I don't know about that, man. They're the only company I know of that will RMA your rifle for free, shoot it with factory loads and real people, then mail you back a target to prove it shoots. Or replace it if it doesn't...Remington has no accuracy guarantee whatsoever with any of their guns. Not positive, but I don't think Vudu does either...
Just an entire cerakote job and smoothing out. My rifle was knocked off a bench at a match and took a drop onto solid concrete. Scratched or gouged every part of the rifle. Muzzle, chassis, scope, bolt knob etc. Just aesthetics, but it was bad. About a 4’ drop.
Continue to work on bolt cocking ramp and it is now a little smoother, however, not yet acceptable. Significant accuracy improvement after installing the EC Tuner. Now can shoot 0.750” average with Center X at 100 yds. Timney HIT trigger at 8 oz was also a good mod. Still not a fan of the B14R!
After 1100 rounds and smoothing out the bolt rotation, this rifle remains very difficult to activate the bolt. A little better with Lapua & SK, unbearable with Eley. Impossible to stay on target while activating bolt. This issue alone makes this riffle NOT fun to shoot. A real shame!!!! Worse yet is the fact that Bergara offers NO solution.
Ive never been a fan of Carbon Fiber barrels.I cant speakfor Rim Fires but I can for Big Bore....and in my experience They Suck.They get hot too quick and walk.
So let me understand this, you entered the toughest match you’ve ever seen with a gun you just put together that week and you say it’s not as good as your high dollar vuhoo that you sleep with and is your best friend! Really come on your bias and have to justify 1 your investment or 2 time spent with the vuhoo. Watching the video you clearly forgot your dope on one shot and readjusted to make a hit how many misses was the course or the shooter or time spent with there tool? To say this gun is not a vuhoo is understandable hell a little polishing and time and maybe even there steel barrel may make a difference but to make statement that this doesn’t shoot like my vudoo is not a true comparison under the same circumstances. What would have been a good finish amongst your competition in this event with your vudoo for which you have how many rounds thru? I don’t care who’s gun this is but when I watch a video that starts off showing a side by side with a decked out vuhoo that shoots better when you removed the silencer than the vudoo it’s impressive. It’s like comparing a corvette to mustang!
Hey Zac, considering how I normally finish using a Vudoo and also considering the fact that Bergara is sending me a steel barrel, I think it is the barrel that is the cause for this.
@@XRING I'm just giving you a hard time. The carbon barrel heats up and shifts poi. I'm in the process on the same set up with a steel barrel so I had to comment..
There comes a time when every person has to come to terms with reality and reality is that old farts won’t ever be as good as they thought they were going to be when they were kids. Some kids parents lied to their kids to spare their feelings...not everyone was made to be a winner...
It’s funnier when reality sets in and you realize some old dude just shot circles around everyone and took the win. Usually with older “outdated” equipment.
Third place was me shooting a bergara b14r steel barrel. I also won the prs match in hazard that Sunday with the same rifle.
Nice Ben! Someone else pointed that out so it is great to hear that the steel barrels are good to go.
Ben, Chad here I just saw this video. I think I am experiencing this dispersion as well.
Ben we're you using the stock bergarab14r chassis or other?
Match was stupid hard. Great video Ray and thanks for the shoutout!
Thanks Josh! Great job out there.
Looks like a great time. I recenty bought a T1x and some friends have RPR's and a Walther. We hope to try some of this.
Thanks from Nova Scotia Canada.
Thanks Peter! Beautiful country up there.
Good job Dad on the coaching. A little praise goes a long way. A proud Daddy for sure. Good job little X-ring.
You guys and gals are having way way to much fun!
The second I seen this video in the list it was running. Good coverage for sure.
Mini rocked it. Congrats young lady.
love learning about the sport!
Wow, pretty tough course. Congrats to Mini-X. Thanks for your recap on your match and experience on the Bergara carbon barrel. I went with the steel on my B14R
Thanks Demntd! It was brutal
Good to see people speaking their minds. This is difficult to come by nowadays since social platforms became money-making sources.
For sure! Thanks for the comment and for watching Murat.
@@XRING Thanks for making the videos! I have always found them entertaining and educational!
Great review and thx for your honesty - great job :)
Thanks Oddur
Looked like a very challenging day of shooting. I personally have the steel barrel b14r in an mdt xrs chassis and I am very pleased with it using sk rifle match. Two other shooters at my local range are using the carbon barrel b14r and consistency hasn't been great.
Thanks for comment. I think steel is the way to go.
Congratulations Ella.
In a match that's that difficult, finishing in the top 10 is still a good finish. Congratulations Ray.
👍😇✌
Thanks Wireman! It was a tough one for sure
This match was brutal!! 3rd place finisher shot a steel bergara.
Nice! Good to know that the steel barrels are shooters. ! Thanks for the correction . 👍🏼
Do you know what chassis he was using?
But X-ring stated all top 3 finishers were shooting Vudoos
?? Which one is right
Looked like a lovely day and you had fun with your daughter. Sounds like a win to me.
Great time!
liked seeing the match, awesome as usual.
Thanks Michael
Man I didn't realize how good of a shooter your daughter was. That is some good parenting there. Hats off to you both.
looked like a brutal day but I bet you guys learned a ton!
Yes we did
thats awesome wish My pops took me to do these back in the days
Ah, next time you will kill it! Ms. Ella is killing it! Thanks for sharing, sir!
LOL! I hope 🤣
It's always great to see Ella enjoying herself and being successful. Best part of the competition. As for the rest of it - difficult. It may not have been up to your usual standards, placement wise, but you also were self-handicapped. I'm sure it is a great rifle, but it isn't your Vudoo. You've always preached that what matters is the Indian and not the arrow. But in this instance, the better arrow may have made a difference. That aside, it was a good competition, seemed like great weather, you had Ella at your side, Rick and Matt. That counts as a good day. Enjoyed watching, as always.
Thanks Sigboy as always! I really have it a fair shot and I think for this application the CF hurt me a bit. It would be great for hiking or hunting in the woods with it as it would be a better pick if weight savings were a concern.
We did have a great time with great friends and thats all that really matters in the end. Thanks again and have a great week.
I have the steel barrel and it does great in matches. I also shoot Eley Ten X
So the question is - how would you have done with the Vudoo? My steel Bergara out groups all of my friend's Vudoos. One even has a Vudoo with a Bartlein barrel.
I was wondering how the carbon wrapped barrel would preform. My B14-R is a steel barrel for the very reason you stated. Vertical stringing as it warmed up. Still good shooting in a tough match. Hat's off to Ella.
Thanks Snakeman! I hope you have been well.
Great stuff
thanks, great video
Thanks Living!
Good job guys.
Thanks Angel. I hope you have been well.
I don’t think you needed to ask anyone about the difficulty of the match. You could see it on their faces. Thanks for sharing.
Mini tearin it up
Even though i have the carbon, i would absolutely go with steel if it was a competition only rifle. I cant say ive noticed bad stringing, but perhaps the florida sun / heat brings its neutral state to a point where there is less of a shift once rounds start flying. Regardless, hard to see what advantage there would be to carbon in competition, other than lookin mad fly. After all, that is 37.8% of the battle.
Perhaps i have some more testing to do.
I think carbon definitely has it place in hunting etc to save weight. That’s about it.
Sorry the rifle didn't perform the way you hoped. The weather looked amazing, and you got to spend the day with the awesome Mini-X.
Thats all that mattered that day! Fun times with the family and friends!
Looked tough!!!!
Good shooting X and mini X. Not bad at all for the toughest match ever shot.
Thanks Steel Punisher
I saw some bore photos of barrels cut and put under a microscope. I tried to find them again to link in this comment, but I haven't been able to after about 20 minutes searching. (If I do, I will follow up with link) Some of the barrels were much more polished, smoother, than others. I'm pretty sure the bergara wasn't one of the smoothest. When you are talking that next level accuracy and consistency, I think a high polish from lapping is going to help out. I don't know if vudoo polishes their barrels or not, but maybe you could ask your contact there...assuming they will tell you. Might be a secret!
I think the youngster gonna be outshooting you in a few years lol. Good stuff
I agree that you would likely have done better with the steel barrel. What does the Korean on your scope say?
Unless you are aiming for light weight build ,Carbon fiber barrel particularly on rimfire is just asking for trouble.
Did you experiment with different action screw torque specs when verifying zero after removing the action from the factory chassis/stock and installing it into a new chassis? It was suggested to me by a friend when I had a 6.5 Grendel stringing and shooting worse in an MDT LSS-XL vs. my factory Ruger American Predator stock.
I tried 45, 55 and 65 inch lbs with this rifle. It did not help.
Good job mini x 👍. I'm just curious what was she shooting?
She shoots a Vudoo V-22
Mr. X-Ring, first I respect your shooting ability. Second I respect your knowledge.
My question is this, What in your opinion, rifle shots most accurately for bench rest target?
Maybe Vudoo or Anschutz, or what?
Hey James, I appreciate you watching. I think your best bet is to go with a custom build for bench rest target shooting. Otherwise, the Anschutz might be the best for a production rifle.
What chassis did you put your Bergara action into and how has it performed since? I have the steel version but I’m not super thrilled with the “stock” stock.
XLR industries.
Hypothetically, I wonder how well a precision pcp, FX Impact for example, would have done on that course.
Curious is you tired diagnosing the POI shift?
That was clever... Mr. Simmons took it upon himself to punish a few folks... LOL...
That he did!
How can you watch these matches
Ray, are you going to get the steel barrel?
No sir, just going to keep it as it is. Vudoo should be ready soon.
Where is this incredible range located?
Old Fort, NC. It is called VOD
A very brutal match I can attest to that
You did well sir.
@@XRING thanks . On a different note . I was looking at the xlr chassis kit . I know you speak highly of them and I wanted to get your opinion on them . I’ve went with the standard stock it comes with and vertical grip . Have you had any issues with these two said items ?where they comfortable to use ? By meaning comfortable I meant do the ergonomic feel rite when working together?
@@70willard Hello Willard, one of the most comfortable and adjustable stocks I know of. The Vertical grip fits perfectly and I know Matt loves his as well. I do wish they had an option for the magazine release in the case of alignment problems with the .22’s.
I thought you looked Korean. Wasn’t sure til I just saw this vid. Lol😂
Love that Korean Flag, three tours to the Republic.
Has anyone been able to balance the b14r?
It’s a bergara thing... I bought an hmr pro and I can’t get it shoot less than 1 moa.
I don't know about that, man. They're the only company I know of that will RMA your rifle for free, shoot it with factory loads and real people, then mail you back a target to prove it shoots. Or replace it if it doesn't...Remington has no accuracy guarantee whatsoever with any of their guns. Not positive, but I don't think Vudu does either...
What needed to be repaired on the Vudoo?
Just an entire cerakote job and smoothing out. My rifle was knocked off a bench at a match and took a drop onto solid concrete. Scratched or gouged every part of the rifle. Muzzle, chassis, scope, bolt knob etc. Just aesthetics, but it was bad. About a 4’ drop.
@@XRING wow! Sorry to hear that. Mine arrives next month!
What gun was the girl using?
She was shooting the Vudoo V22.
Continue to work on bolt cocking ramp and it is now a little smoother, however, not yet acceptable.
Significant accuracy improvement after installing the EC Tuner. Now can shoot 0.750” average with Center X at 100 yds.
Timney HIT trigger at 8 oz was also a good mod.
Still not a fan of the B14R!
After 1100 rounds and smoothing out the bolt rotation, this rifle remains very difficult to activate the bolt. A little better with Lapua & SK, unbearable with Eley. Impossible to stay on target while activating bolt.
This issue alone makes this riffle NOT fun to shoot. A real shame!!!! Worse yet is the fact that Bergara offers NO solution.
Ive never been a fan of Carbon Fiber barrels.I cant speakfor Rim Fires but I can for Big Bore....and in my experience They Suck.They get hot too quick and walk.
you could take that rifle and rebarrel it with a mac-daddy barrel and still be cheaper than the vudoo and spent the extra cabbage on a scope.
I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF CARBON BARRELS, IT MAYBE LIGHTER BUT I ONLY SEE THE BENEFIT ON HUNTING RIFLE.
So let me understand this, you entered the toughest match you’ve ever seen with a gun you just put together that week and you say it’s not as good as your high dollar vuhoo that you sleep with and is your best friend! Really come on your bias and have to justify 1 your investment or 2 time spent with the vuhoo. Watching the video you clearly forgot your dope on one shot and readjusted to make a hit how many misses was the course or the shooter or time spent with there tool? To say this gun is not a vuhoo is understandable hell a little polishing and time and maybe even there steel barrel may make a difference but to make statement that this doesn’t shoot like my vudoo is not a true comparison under the same circumstances. What would have been a good finish amongst your competition in this event with your vudoo for which you have how many rounds thru? I don’t care who’s gun this is but when I watch a video that starts off showing a side by side with a decked out vuhoo that shoots better when you removed the silencer than the vudoo it’s impressive. It’s like comparing a corvette to mustang!
It was a tough match. Suck it up.
No complaints here. I love tough matches .
Funny blame the gun not the nut behind...
Hey Zac, considering how I normally finish using a Vudoo and also considering the fact that Bergara is sending me a steel barrel, I think it is the barrel that is the cause for this.
@@XRING I'm just giving you a hard time. The carbon barrel heats up and shifts poi. I'm in the process on the same set up with a steel barrel so I had to comment..
I appreciate it Zac. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
There comes a time when every person has to come to terms with reality and reality is that old farts won’t ever be as good as they thought they were going to be when they were kids. Some kids parents lied to their kids to spare their feelings...not everyone was made to be a winner...
It’s funnier when reality sets in and you realize some old dude just shot circles around everyone and took the win. Usually with older “outdated” equipment.