2008 High End Gaming PC Build ( SLI vs Crossfire )
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2008 was a tough year, marked by the most severe financial crisis in the last 100 years. But while the economy was going down, computer hardware performance was going up.
Our machine represents the pinnacle of PC performance with HEDT platform, top performing GPUs from both nVidia and ATI, fast storage and amount of memory worthy of a server of that era.
Song in the video: Greatest of All Time
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Artist: Beat Mekanik
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Parts List:
CPU: Intel Core i7-960
MB: Asus Rampage II Extreme
RAM: 6 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz
GPU: 2x nVidia GeForce GTX 280 ( Asus & Gigabyte )
GPU: 2x ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB ( Both Sapphire )
HDD: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS
#benchmark #pcgaming #2008 #retrogaming #bestbuild #highend
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:20 Motherboard: Asus Rampage II Extreme
01:21 CPU: Core i7-960
02:52 Memory: 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz
03:33 GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 280
04:21 GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB
05:13 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS
05:56 Other parts
06:48 The build
11:24 Benchmark: Oblivion
11:48 Benchmark: Crysis
12:07 Benchmark: Mafia II
12:18 Benchmark: Skyrim
12:42 Benchmark: Tomb Raider (2013)
12:59 Upgrade: nVidia GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
13:18 Upgraded benchmarks
13:39 Benchmark: Witcher III The Wild Hunt
13:45 Benchmark: Doom (2016)
13:54 Benchmark: Shadow of The Tomb Raider
14:02 Benchmark: Horizon Zero Dawn
14:10 Benchmark: Cyberpunk 2077
14:27 Synthetic benchmarks: 3DMark Cinebench CPUZ
15:15 Conclusion - Věda a technologie
24GB is an insane amount of memory in 2008, even for a high-end PC. I think this would be similar to have 128gb nowadays. High-end PCs from that time would probably have 6GB in triple channel.
And an insane amount is exactly what we wanted :D If it is possible, and doesn't impact the performance, we fill those slots!
192gb is our limit when using ddr5 ram, but MSI released a bios update to let us use 256gb ram in our motherboards. Note, in order to use more than 128gb of ram, you need Windows 10/11 Pro
I had 6gb, because I had exactly the same mobo as in this clip xD
I used a workstation in my company with 128GB RAM a workstation and it was very slow to boot up, only for 3D rendering.
Yeah back then 2gb was today's 16gb standard
crazy how far technology has come, gtx 280 its 250 watts but with today architecture it'd probably be a few watts
considering Vega integrated graphics, it would be 2-3 watts.
Love videos of 2000-2010 high end pcs
Buy why some cheap GTX 1060 card, use the RTX 4090, it's a slow build, bottlenecking the RTX 4090, understand what a bottleneck is !
@@lucasrem what are you talking about
@@lucasremwhat
@@StrixWar either bro had a stroke or is replying to the wrong comment 😂
@@lucasrem do you even know what video you're watching
I am glad to see one of these proper high end builds. I see channels with millions of subs and clearly enough money to buy the parts, they just keep missing the point of high end, if not outright using the wrong components. Thank you for using proper period correct builds!
This is low-end by today's standards.
@@92kosta of course… but i meant high end, period correct parts!
@@92kosta the point flew so far above your head hehe
THE MUSIC DURING THE BUILD 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻
I was watching at 2x speed and noticed it sounds like cartoon jungle chase music
imagine at 2060, this guy creates the "2024 High End PC Build (Double RTX 4090)"
you cant
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 wow thanks einstein 😑
I loved my i7 980. Had it 12 years and never missed a beat. Wish I could have kept it!
I am still using my 3770K🙂
@@aupuislam5276 Running the same CPU in my daughters setup.
Still runs just fine.
I could upgrade the ram but I think 8 is enough for that cpu
@@fiddlermuncher8701 nice.
This is the kind of video I use CZcams for.. LOVED ITT
Simply perfect! A super machine even for today. 24GB RAM is a lot of memory even by current standards.
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👍👍👍👍
24GB is considered underequipped these days. The average new build gaming PC has 32GB and it can still be inadequate in some situations.
24gb is still plenty for gaming only @@geeknproud321
I don't remember exactly what I had back in 2008, but it was a dual core with iGPU, I was a kid and knew nothing about PC , but i do know that having THIS set up back then would have made me the coolest kid in the block 🤣
The first PC I actually build myself had an E6600, GT 220, and 4gb of ram, it was like 2010 budget build but I could play everything I wanted to play back then. Good times.
time when you didn't need to have high-end hardware to play everything
I have to say, these videos are awesome. They bring back a lot of good memories. I made a new rig in 2008 that blew away everything else I’d ever owned. Phenom 9850BE, MSI mobo and a BFG GeForce 9800 GTX OC. I had that rig for about 11 years, first as my gaming rig (which was my first capable of DX10) and then later as a makeshift NAS.
Seriously good video! you seem like a guy who knows what your doing! As I've been a PC builder for a while, I appreciate your work and continue to watch your content.
this PC was the absolute elite back then.
i loved those days..
Man that Sapphire hd 4870 carried me so far XD did upgrade my motherboard + cpu in 2013 and still used the the hd 4870.played BF4 with it and gta v.
A W3690 Xeon is a unlocked I7 990. Absolutely over clockable with base clock or multiplier over clocking. And my main gaming rig until I "upgraded" to a Ryzen 5950X. And a GTX 1080 TI in sli was the best you could do in dual sli. A RX 6950X or RTX 3090TI was the absolute limit for a single card that that cpu could feed properly. And yes, if you know how to get it to work. A Samsung 950 pro name drive on a price riser card can be used as a boot drive. I ran that for almost a decade on my X58 system.
I still cant believe I bought that cpu cooler back in 2020 for my first gaming pc
Missed an opportunity to use those old HAF full tower cases that were so popular. Awesome build regardless, I used to rock two 9600gts in sli.
Ye I was looking for one to do my build in but found a cosmos 1000 angelic edition for £40 and just had to take it
M4rio21
You should be able to find the ASUS Masrs review, VS the SLI GTX 960 !
both was cab and slow !
2008 was the shit. i miss it.
My brother in christ, it was the worst financial crash since the great depression
@@Dankyjrthethird yes , but it still managed to develop some of the greatest technology ever
People saying SLI isn't good becuase games don't utilize it seem to forget that they never were optimized for sli
Average sli fan:
To be fair, some CPUs weren’t optimized for it, either. SLI really only works if it’s two GPUs and the CPU has 32 or more PCI-E lanes. If it only has 16, then both GPUs will only run at x8 instead of x16, and it gets worse the more GPUs you have.
@@nep-nep6575Even if the CPU has 32 or more PCIe lanes, the amount you have available depends on motherboard design and things like that, as some lanes are lost to interconnect the CPU to the chipset, some are used for storage, some are reserved by the iGPU and so on. Even if you take a high end cpu, like a Threadripper 7995WX with its 148 PCIe lanes, only 144 of those are usable and only 128 of them are PCIe 5.0.
I still have my x58 system from 2008 sitting in my lounge here running Windows 11 for media streaming.
16 years and still going strong :)
Big * on the GTX 280 because 9800GX2 were still out preforming them. BUT, the 280 scaled better long term. I do think it'd be more funnier to have two 9800GX2s because Quad SLI is such a funny thing.
I used the 9800GTX up until 2014. That card was a monster. In my opnion, the 8800GT G92 was the best card ever released.
I had ati 4870 in tri crossfire
I just broke down my still working Alienware x51-58 from 2008 and replaced it with an updated modern build. Its had almost the exact same i7 950 as the one in your video, mine is 3.06hz and not 3.20hz I believe. But other than that everything else is identical. Crazy, all this stuff still works. My Psu from 15 years ago still works, while multiple newer PSU's have crapped out after 6 years or one that was faulty from the start.
With the exception of my GPU that I slightly updated to a 1060 my all original 2008 with a i7 920 and 8gb of ram still runs like a beast. Can play a few modern titles like RDR2 and Sea of thieves pretty smooth. I just keep it for nostalgia and ofc have something more modern to use daily but I still love how the term "futureproof" actualy ment something back then. Only reason it has a 1060 is because the original gtx 280 gave up life in 2019.
The Gtx 280 cards are so beautiful
just upgraded from my i7 860 and a 1050 ti with 12 gb of ddr3. That pc did a lot for what it was
The Rampage II Extreme brings back bad memories for me really. 2009 was the year a friend and I both graduated from high school. We celebrated by both of us building our first really high end gaming PC mid-2009, we both went for a RIIE motherboard, i7 920, GTX285 single card, 12GB RAM and a couple Seagate 7200.12 500GB HDDs. By the end of that year I also went full watercooling on both CPU and GPU with Heatkiller, Koolance and Bitspower hardware. First time watercooling ever. It was one hell of a PC!
At first I didn't really overclock much, or it was very mild. Despite that, that poor motherboard died in 2011... Lasting just exactly 2 years! And guess what, my friend's PC had the exact same fate a bit later... Unbelievable. I quickly fixed the PC by ordering the newer Rampage III Extreme. And on the release date of the GTX 680 both my friend and I upgraded the GPU as well, keeping the i7 920 a few more years.
After switching to the Rampage III Extreme, I never looked back. What an absolute beast of a motherboard! Complete opposite of the Rampage II Extreme, this one is by far the best motherboard I ever owned! And that i7 920 is also the best CPU I ever had. This combinaison of motherboard and CPU allowed me to overclock from the stock 2.66GHz to a crazy (for me at the time) 4.12GHz for 24/7 use. And it's still kicking to this day! back in 2011 I even got the full cover waterblock from EK, and RAM waterblock to build the most complete watercooling I could build. Fun times!
That poor motherboard at some point had rain fall on it one day while it was working... shutting the system down. I really thought it was dead, but after thorough cleaning, it came back to life and kept going as if nothing ever happenned. Crazy! Nowadays, it looks like it's starting to show signs of weakness, but it for sure has served me very well for a complete decade, as my main gaming PC, then as a computer for my parents, and then as a server. For years running 24/7 without even being shut down.
Back in 2020 was the last time I worked on this PC. I decided to completely remake the watercooling and mod the original case, a Lian Li Armorsuit PC-P50WB, with a complete front 3D printed shroud for a thick 360 rad, and another 280 rad at the top. I made a complete rigid tubing loop for it as well. Later the pump died, followed by the motherboard showing some signs of weakness, so I retired it for now. I will get back to it later and maybe replace the motherboard or something to bring it back to life and bring back its original glory! It now has a SLI of watercooled EVGA GTX 680.
I used to have tri sli gtx 280's. It was a beast back in 2009
I currently have a 980Ti + SyncMaster 997Mb 19" CRT setup :)
In 2008 was when I built my first gaming PC, it was a Intel Q6600, asus p5q deluxe, 2x2GB DDR2 Corsair Dominator, 9800 gtx+ and a corsair TX 750w psu which I still use till this day, good times.
Ive always wanted to do this. As an electrical engineer who is now 34, with disposable income, I always thought it would be SO cool to do a high end "retro" build. However I would do it from around 2012 and with other components from that era. This was when I "really" got into computers and would be fun to build a system I had once only dreamed of owning, even though I had been building computers since late socket 775. Hear me out, I was thinking a 3770k on an asus rampage with two 780TI in SLI on windows 7. This will mostly be a "conversation" piece but id like to set it up down in my "man cave" and custom make a chassis to look like an N64 using my 3D printer and have it run emulation all the way up to PS1 and gamecube.
780Ti SLI was indeed a dream back then
You want it, do it :D It isn't easy to start, and takes a bit of patience until you get all the parts in working condition. Also designing a case is a challenging endeavor. But this all started with our 2006 build and turned out to be an amazing hobby. You can have fun in parts of it you least expected. So go for it!
Ouch, your retro build is close to my i7 4790 current rig.
*Cries in DDR3*
My daily pc is a i7965, 24gb 1600mt ddr3 and a vega64 lol
I had that same motherboard and CPU combo and instead of 780 TI's I was running 3 AMD 6970s and crossfire and oh my God was that a power hog, I think under load it was drawing 800 watts from the wall
My first pc was a 260gtx and a core 2 quad |D ahhhh good times. I got the mobo. CPU and gpu for free from a friend for doing a game jam with them :) his school was the first time I saw a water cooled pc in about 2011/2012
I built my 1st gaming pc back in 2008 almost same setup! Rampage 2 mobo, but I actually went with the i7-965 extreme and dual gtx 295’s. I used pc all the way until I upgraded at the end of 2022!
Bro you use gen 1st cpu and gtx 295 in 2022🤯🤯🤯
Yee…
@@akfhjfughjghI get using the cpu for that long but how did you use the old gpus
@@CollynPlayz It played almost all my steam library flawlessly. I have consoles for the newer games. But it’s awesome to be playing modern games on pc.
@@cheemscatmoi7943 lol one of my friend has intel processor from 1998 ( i forgot its name) and 32mb of ram and it still runs.
I'll never forget my truly 1st gaming pc, 8800gts.
This is impressive, I think I will do something like this for Windows 7's 15th bithday this year, since it is still my daily and favourite OS.
Your daily? You’re insane. Stop using operating systems from the hadean eon with a security model akin to swiss cheese. Can’t believe I’m saying this, but even Loonix would be preferrable to that outdated garbage.
@@cryluneyou gonna cry?
@@pizzaparity from a cyber security standpoint, someone still using W7 as their main OS is a very valid reason to cry
I would love some proof to prove its insecure! Why are you calling it garbage? Id love to see some proof for that too.@@crylune
What is more insane to see two identical 280 gtx alive
i love your content.
Can't wait for the AMD run.
I traded my fx system for an x58 system back in 2016. I used it for a year with a gtx780 for quite a while before gpu prices became reasonable again. I had a i7 990x and it destroys the fx 8350 in everything.
did you made that wooden test bench, and if so might be good idea to sell them
I had a a pair of Sapphire 4870's cross fired. They were great. Then I had a pair of XFX 5870's. They were awesome. Strix 3090 today.
I wish they used the old-style PC casings back then like Antec, Cooler Master, etc. I kinda miss the heavy casing with terrible cable routing lol.
In 2008 I was running the C2D platform. XFX 780i Ultra SLI Motherboard, C2Q 9550, 2x4GB G.Skill DDR3 1333Mhz, and a Zotac GTS 250 Amp GPU. Together with the rest of the parts and the most expensive monitor i'd ever bought, the Samsung 245B, it was the most expensive system ive ever built. Even compared to my latest Ryzen9 build with RTX 3080Ti
That’s crazy how far technology has come
I’m still running a P6T Deluxe v2 x58 board as my daily driver with 24GB of RAM, Xeon 5670 and RTX card. One of the hardiest boards I’ve ever used.
i love your videos
Me watching this on a mid/high end gaming PC from 2008 - i7 920, MSI X58 Platinum, 3 Channel 24GB RAM, used to have a 650W PSU (burned, niw replaced by 400W and rn with 500W), some random nVidia gpu that I didnt even find in databases. This system is now OC to 4GHz, ram running at 1560ish MHz and with a nVidia GT 740 1GB GPU
I'm not going to lie 2008 was a great year and time for PC gamers and PC Hardware.
My father worked for intel during this time, I was in my senior year of high school. Computers where the one thing my parents splurged on, me and my brother both had our own, my pc had a Intel Q6600, 8gb ram(I think..), GTX 260 and some horrible HDD because I always cheaped out on that and put the money elsewhere lol.
fall of 2010 would be interesting, release of GTX480 which even got drivers that enable DX12 support on this card + first ever HEDT 6 core intel CPU. Competing with pinnacle of AMD tech - Phenom II X6 + HD6970
for better drivers, the ati/amd HD4000 GPU's you want 11.XX drivers from what i remember when i asked on the old long gone ATI/AMD forums i think 12.XX driver might also be good to use. the 13.xx are just end of life stuff.
there also the custom drivers but those are really hard to find.
I still have my 2008-2009 rig. I gave it to my parents years ago and it’s still going strong to this day as their everyday desktop!
ASUS Rampage 2-E, i7 920, Corsair Vengeance DDR3 triple channel RAM, Corsair HX-850! All very solid components! The only part I took out and sold was the 9800 GX2.
Wait so was this mobo still capable of dual channel memory or did it have to run as single or triple channel's?
nice, well done. now you need a 6 core cpu, at minmimum a x5675. i hav w3690 in my r2e, extra 2 cores are huge.
I have a X5670 @ 4.4GHz in my P6X58D-E. It did really well with a GTX 1080 in games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Red Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk 2077
We do have i7-980X we plan to use in future projects. We aim to pit it against somewhat modern 6 core CPU. See what happens :D
I remember buying my first high end GPU to play bioshock 2007. The 8800-GTS 640 superclock eddition from XFX.
in 2013, a fack card named gtx570 that equited with a bios, that real body is 9600 or 9800gt can obtain 70fps in the game farcry2, for which I think this is the real gtx 570 lol
Ideally you’d want the cards to be the same exact model and vendor to avoid differences and help with Crossfire compatibility, it was unstable enough as it was.
And I ran 3 way crossfire 😂
I did something similar! The best of 2009! I put a Windows Vista on it I got an HD 5970 mw2 edition, From now on i7 920, 20 GB of RAM, ssds that are appropriate for the time size, A full chipset up vrm and cpu water cooler And even a sata 3 add on card from 09!
Buddy its a x58 platform get a 6 core and do an oc, you can easily get around 4.5ghz, about the gpu the highest you could go is around 1080ti, performance is comparable to oced i7 4770/90k
Asus boards took the xeons plug and play for the most part. So nice.
you could have used the EVGA Classified to get put a 4-way sli on 16x but there hard to find and you could have put 2 velociraptors on raid 0 to make windows faster
Still have my VR hard drives since I bought it about 20 years ago. close to 60k hours on it
IN 2008 I bought my first asus eee pc, a 1000 in black. Loved it but bricked it trying to upgrade to 2GB ram. Never tried gaming on it
It's really interesting how hit and miss SLI and Crossfire were. Some titles scale almost perfectly, some barely at all.
I wish you could still pair up new GPU's like you could back then
can't wait to play DMC4 on it
Why the heck was i recommended this after thinking about my uncles old gaming setup FROM 2008!?!?!?
I did not google anything about it, i did not talk to anyone about it. It just appeared as if it knew i was going to search for something like this at some point.
I feel like my mind is exposed which isn't fun. 🙁
Dude stuff like this has been happening to me fairly frequently lately too. It is really unsettling.
es el algoritmo puede leer mentes
For anyone wondering if you get a Xeon x5670 and OC to 3.8-4.4 ghz it will be a huge boost and worth the money for gaming on a budget
Still have the board with a Xeon X5650 sitting in my closet, was a beast with its 6 cores
The power of sli i wish it will came back again
Yes but 1060 is not really a gpu "close" to nowadays, it came out 8 years ago. XD XD. REALLY AWSOME VIDEO BTW
still better than my current pc
X58 was such a great platform.
I forgot about when they use to put generic computer animated characters on GPU's like Ruby from ATI
Should have gotten a pair of GTX 295. I got 2 what are damaged as some capacitors have been knocked off so I want to make 1 working on for a retro build I still yet to finish
The High End of CPU in LGA 1366 is Intel Xeon 5690 , 6 cores 12 threads 3.46GHz clock and 3.74 turbo L3 cache 12MB process 32nm I/0 Bus 6.4 GT/s and I have this Xeon with an Asus P6T SE motherboard and 24 GB of memory and it works so far
bruh just chose xeon x5690 and try it on 1060 3gb its damn so good , i personaly used this build since 2018 to 22 i have x5690 with gtx 750 , 24gb ram , i played alot of games man so good this build
I'm a bit disappointed that you went with such a weak air cooler and didn't do any overclocking. That's btw also the biggest difference between the i7 960 and 965: the unlocked multiplier. But even without it, most people opted for the i7 920 because the high basic multiplier meant with BCLK overclocking most early C1 models did 3.6-4GHz and later D0 models could reach 4-4.6GHz for daily operations on strong air or better yet a good custom loop. The later 6 core models for the same socket can go even higher :)
Had to mod the slower one to keep up or sync completely / then used the faster one for video output and windows display
The last HEDT Intel chip was the 10 gen 10980xe, INTEL should have a new chip and HEDT chipset to replace the x299 mobos comming soon love those old tri-memoy chips from back in the day...
im pretty sure you can push the memory up to 32gb (as i have done on my msi drmos board)
Why crossfire is still exists on newer motherboards? For example asrock b550 pro 4
man this reminded me of having 2x GTX 760 to have 400$ in grapics card but the power of the 1.500$ titan at the time.
Edit: your cyberpunk test is no suprise. i played Cyberpunk in a i5 2xxxK and a GTX 1050ti with 8 gig of ram and Windows 7 as OS. it was playable with 30-45fps sometime dipping into 15 fps and a crash (just the game) here and there but it ran. i can look at my old CPU later what generation it waslater if someone really want to know. i just know on top of my head it was an i5 2nd gen K something.
ASUS mars you meant, 2x GTX 760, was not any fast...sorry
@@lucasrem it was. if you never did it you will not know how good it was.
man i miss SLI
X79 SLI, i still have that build, i7 eXtreme
GTX 200, 3 Bridge SLI, i7 975, SSE4.2 !
Still runs Windows 10, on old Nvidia drivers
sounds like an X58 build rather than X79, the i7 975 is the same generation as the 960 in this video, just clocked higher and with an unlocked multiplier (similar to the 965). X79 would be Sandy Bridge E (or later Ivy), so the time of 3960X and 4960X
oh man this was a dream build back then
the ram of 24gb top of the line
so good!
Disk benchmarks are missing. I was supposed to see how the 10K RPM disk performs.
Oof, back then I like 2gb. And then 2011 I went for a i5 2500 with 4gb ram. It was just a matter of years until 8gb became the new standard
I ran dual HD 3870 X2s!
Why is the i7 a beast bc it still good for 2024.
This is the time when water cooling system look crazy and badass, now most people want clean setup without rgb light
Always use the nimez drivers for older unsupported amd graphics cards
Good hint. Thanks :D
@@attictiertech no problem I got 30+ fps with my r9 280x in doom eternal.
Without nimez the game was laggy and the textures were pretty heavy artifacted
We really gotta bring back graphic art on GPU coolers
Even we are divided on that topic :D
Wish they'd bring back art on gpus again
Issue finding gtx 285's? Those would have been top tier for late 2008 :P
Why not taken the i7 990X?
gtx480 legend
I remember when I had 2 5970amd . I remember many of my classmates saying WHOAAWWWW. 😂
Still rocking two GTX 1080Ti.
Sad that games don't scale with multi gpu setups anymore. Otherwise I would slap another 4090 in my rig
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 They never did but it looks so cool... To me. I absolutely love it.
@@axemastersinc3269 some games did scale with 2 gpu`s. yes 2 gpu`s do look cool but how is your power consumption in games that don`t support it anymore ? is it like one 1080 ti is going max power while the other one is idleing ? have fun with your system and game hard mate
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 BF3 did really good but never what I thought . 1 GPU gave me 110FPS so I was like hell yes 4 GTX 980ti. But no it didn't. So now I just have 2 GTX 1080Ti in SLI. But for me it looks awesome In my giant Cooler Master 25th Anniversary case.
Im doing a 2010s dream pc
New old stock sapphire pure platinum z68 motherboard
I7 2700k
2× sapphire r9 270x vapor x in crossfire
In a new old stock coolermaster cosmos 1000 angelic edition i found on marketplace for so cheap i had to get it
x79 here, you need it ?
@lucasrem already built I finished it last night
price was insane
i miss wifu gpu's plz bring them back....
My new Esports Machine!!! Sold 😮