My SilencerShop eForms 4 Experience

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Komentáře • 333

  • @paulbingville6485
    @paulbingville6485 Před 2 lety +71

    Ideal way to do it is to find an FFL who sells NFA items, has the suppressor you want in stock, is set up to do eForms, and has an indoor range. That way, at least you can use your suppressor at their range while you wait for the stamp.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +6

      Definitely ideal but won’t be applicable for most people 👍🏽

    • @kchaney9735
      @kchaney9735 Před 2 lety +4

      This is exactly what I did. I also ended ip having a baffle strike while using my sandman s and the ffl had to send it off to get fixed.

    • @90syungin51
      @90syungin51 Před 2 lety +3

      I didn’t know you could do this. I might get lucky though I doubt it

    • @chrisoliver5302
      @chrisoliver5302 Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah, I know you can do "conjucal visits" to your suppressors that are in jail if you bought from an FFL with a range. Unfortunately, I wanted a Hybrid 46m and the only local shop that had them in stock was one without a range. I wish I could just put the purchase out of my mind and forget about it, but I just can't! I'm like a kid waiting very impatiently for a christmas day that probably won't come for another 10 months, lol.

    • @natebrbora
      @natebrbora Před 2 lety

      @@chrisoliver5302 I’m literally in the same boat as you. My 46m is in jail, except my FFL doesn’t have a range, fml.

  • @Kenwood..
    @Kenwood.. Před 10 měsíci +3

    Thank you for making this video. Im using a pre-made nfa trust also. Im in no hurry, since i heard it takes longer with trust

  • @90syungin51
    @90syungin51 Před 2 lety +8

    Your backdrop is amazing man! Awesome content as well. I’m trying to get a suppressor for my new AR pistol

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Thanks a lot bro 👍🏽

  • @Strawman333
    @Strawman333 Před rokem +7

    I ordered through SS. Two weeks I got certified. My FFL happens to be an attorney. He was very nice and did my certification remotely. When I contacted him about my “ready to certify” email he was at the airport. He made me a priority and we got it submitted. Now I wait on the ATF… Thanks for sharing your experience!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      Good luck!

    • @t.texastimmy1022
      @t.texastimmy1022 Před rokem

      the whole "ATF Certifying" process is ridiculous ...

    • @Strawman333
      @Strawman333 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Updated: 11mos later got my approval. Applied Nov. ‘22 approved Oct. 1st ‘23.

  • @trentroberts7608
    @trentroberts7608 Před 2 lety +6

    Well I bought a suppressor on 11.26 21 and I'm still waiting for them to approve it. It's great to see someone who bought one the same time I did. Congratulations. I honestly think my dealer is overwhelmed and can't keep up. New subscriber.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Do you know when your suppressor was certified or if it was done through eForms?

    • @trentroberts7608
      @trentroberts7608 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran 3/30/22.

    • @trentroberts7608
      @trentroberts7608 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran I'll be waiting for awhile now I'm sure. Lol. It took me 4 weeks to get the dealer to get me in to submit the certification. Total of 5 minutes.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Yeah, the dealer definitely took some time to certify and theoretically you still have about a month left but it can also be any day now. Who knows…

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      That’s one nice thing about filing as a trust, you can certify over the phone.

  • @jessepayne3843
    @jessepayne3843 Před 2 lety +4

    I picked up 4 cans from my dealer all on the same day. Waiting period on those ranged from 95 to 118 days.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds like a good day 👍🏽

    • @Strawman333
      @Strawman333 Před rokem

      Are you still waiting Jesse?

  • @jbarres80
    @jbarres80 Před rokem +1

    Just bought my 1st one went to range that has the silencer shop set up seem pretty easy and silencer shop has great customer service I had to call them

  • @HaiTran
    @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +9

    *eForms 4 Trust Timelines*
    *Suppressor #1*
    Purchased - 11/16/21
    Certified - 1/21/22
    Approved - 4/26/22
    Days for Approval - 95 days
    Start to Finish - 161 days
    *Suppressor #2*
    Purchased - 1/12/22
    Certified - 1/24/22
    Approved - 5/4/22
    Days for Approval - 100 days
    Start to Finish - 112 days
    *Suppressor #3*
    Purchased - 3/15/22
    Certified - 4/7/22
    Approved - 12/22/22
    Days for Approval - 259 days
    Start to Finish - 282 days
    *Suppressor #4*
    Purchased - 4/11/22
    Certified - 4/15/22
    Approved - 1/6/23
    Days for Approval - 266 days
    Start to Finish - 270 days

    • @thedungeon9992
      @thedungeon9992 Před 2 lety

      Lucky you

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +3

      No luck came into play. I paid for an item and waited for it.

    • @jmollick1
      @jmollick1 Před 2 lety

      Purchased december 2021, they didnt get to my eform until MARCH!!!!!! im still waiting 😡

    • @chrisoliver5302
      @chrisoliver5302 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran Damn dude, I bought my suppressor (Hybrid 46m) on 1/12/22 as well, didn't certify until 4/23/22 (I don't know if SilencerShop dropped the ball, or my local FFL dealer I bought from), and now....I'm STILL waiting...as of today, I'm at about 120 days SINCE certification. I hope I'm close. I was losing hope but seeing youre timelines gives me some slight hope. Also, something else you stated in your video I'm kicking myself in the ass for is doing a single-shot when I was going to do individual. Well, I'm going to do another silencer sometime and I for sure will do individual. I don't have anyone Id put on a trust right now, anyway.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      120+ days and counting...
      Clearly there are some cracks in the system. If I didn't buy the Unlimited Single Shot Trust, I would just go the individual route and get NFA items quicker.

  • @Mr2ndAmendment
    @Mr2ndAmendment Před 9 měsíci

    SS made everything easy. Built my trust, signed my documents on my phone, certified my eForm 1 from home. Can't recommend them enough, they truly make everything easy and charge super reasonable for what they do. The only problem is that it's so easy to do another can or NFA item, that you'll buy cans like crazy. 👍

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 9 měsíci

      Hope it's fast for you 👍🏽

  • @mississippibilly_
    @mississippibilly_ Před 5 měsíci

    after becoming aware of quick individual approvals i purchased a suppressor direct from manufacturer monday currently waiting on form 3 then they will ship to my FFL and i will use the SS kiosk..i hope this new quick trend is real

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 5 měsíci

      Me too. It has me thinking of buying some.

  • @jack-ui3ob
    @jack-ui3ob Před 2 lety +6

    Got my suppressor : finally got my tax stamp approval at 195 days

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Was it through eforms?

    • @jack-ui3ob
      @jack-ui3ob Před 2 lety +1

      @@HaiTran yes sir

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +2

      Great……..
      I’m at over 120 days on two suppressors so I guess I could possibly be waiting a lot longer.

    • @Steeda04SVT
      @Steeda04SVT Před rokem

      @@HaiTranany luck yet?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      Yes, look at the pinned comment.

  • @mixflip
    @mixflip Před rokem

    I bought a suppressor in Sept 2021 through silencer shop kiosk. Im at 13 months now and still now can!!!
    I also bought another suppressor Jan 2022 with the new efile and the 90 day sales pitch. 300+ days later...still now can. WTF???

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      That sucks to hear. The system is a mess right now so who knows how long any application is going to take.

  • @Scooby15443
    @Scooby15443 Před rokem +2

    I did my first eform 4 almost 9 months ago (may 3rd) still waiting for it to be approved.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Hope you get it soon since you weren’t too long after my April submissions 👍🏽

    • @southeast78
      @southeast78 Před rokem

      I did mines May 21st and I’m still waiting. It’s being “processed.”

  • @prawnstar502
    @prawnstar502 Před měsícem

    “preparing for eforms” is where i am at.. its been 7 days lol

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před měsícem

      I’m surprised it’s slowed down.

  • @madmaks152
    @madmaks152 Před 7 měsíci

    Good video explaining the process. Pretty accurate. However my experience was MUCH WORSE than Hai's. It still took me over 7 months to get my stamp ! And the kiosk process SUCKED !! As far as I'm concerned, there is NO advantage to using a Silencer Shop kiosk !!! I could have done almost everything online. I could go into excruciating detail but suffice to say that the process SUCKED and is NOT worth it !!!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Here is my update: czcams.com/video/Of-eopZCp5A/video.html

  • @Revolutionary069
    @Revolutionary069 Před rokem +1

    My Dead Air Primal
    Purchased - 3/10/22
    Certified- 3/16/22
    Still waiting on the approval 223 days later😢

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      I’m officially over the 200 days mark on two suppressors.

  • @daviescott1406
    @daviescott1406 Před rokem +2

    This entire process with SS has been terrible. 1st suppressor certified end of July. 2nd and 3rd certified end of August. The FFL did not know what to do, SS over promised and under delivered. The ATF said there intent was 90 day approval. SS promoted the 90 approval as actual approval time. You cannot cancel your order without taking a huge restocking penalty and you only get store credit. There will b3 a long wait for a refund on your tax stamp. This entire process has been very disappointing. I only committed to purchasing the suppressors, because SS promoted the 90 day approval.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      It was always more so of we will TRY to get it approved in 90 days not we WILL get it approved in 90 days. At this point, you’re in for the ride. Just stop thinking about it because it’s out of your hands.

    • @virtuaguyverify
      @virtuaguyverify Před rokem

      You and a shit ton of people. Silencer shop totally f'd us! It's they got the sales is all they care about

    • @ilovetech8341
      @ilovetech8341 Před 10 měsíci +1

      My FFL added on a hidden $100 fee just before walking out the door with one surpressor. Some bullshit about how it came from another vendor. So the final price is not the final price with SilencerShop.

  • @GregorsOutdoors
    @GregorsOutdoors Před 2 lety +1

    Those days to certify fluctuate big time. My first series of emails were rapid then everything went silent. Now I await the email to certify. I guess I should just forget about it like you said. You watch a pot it won't boil kind of thing. Either way, the Silencer Shop kiosk is the bomb compared to the olden golden days of paper.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      It seems like wait times can fluctuate for any of the steps. The system definitely has room for improvement but better than before.

  • @fromdowntown2963
    @fromdowntown2963 Před 2 lety +2

    Efile form 4 time started 02/17/22 still waiting

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I’m personally over 120 days with 2 suppressors at the moment…

  • @ArmoredSoup
    @ArmoredSoup Před rokem

    I purchased mine 11/18/21 sst with eform, was certified around 100 days, still awaiting approval..

  • @tonynguyen5362
    @tonynguyen5362 Před 2 lety +1

    Purchased Omega 36M on 4/14/22, eform 4 certify on 5/16/22, waiting game begin. My first suppressor purchased 11/20, took 10 months to received.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Good luck 👍🏽

    • @tonynguyen5362
      @tonynguyen5362 Před rokem

      Finally got the approved today 2/8/2023, took almost 9 months, 90 days my %$#%^

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Better than nothing.

  • @chaoliu5036
    @chaoliu5036 Před rokem

    I purchased my SBR MK18 1/4/22, eform 3 took about a month. Finally certified on 3/25. Just recently got approved on 12/6. Took a whole 256 days lol my rc2 was certified 4/28 and I’m currently at 245 days so hoping it’s soon.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Hopefully you’ll get it soon!

  • @NycAgent47
    @NycAgent47 Před rokem

    Still waiting on my can and I ordered mine through silencer central submitted it back in September of last year

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Hopefully it’s any day now 👍🏽

  • @nomansland4811
    @nomansland4811 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you file as an individual vs a trust, doesn’t your local Chief of police have to sign off? Or is this old info? As I recall some chiefs won’t sign these.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 8 měsíci +1

      I’ve always done a trust so can’t answer this. But I’ve definitely heard that some police chiefs are against NFA items and won’t approve them.

  • @jakeg2194
    @jakeg2194 Před 2 lety +3

    Submitted eforms for a Sandman S about 12 days ago, have been waiting 349 days for a Surefire Mini 2. How ironic it would be to get the Sandman back first…

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      You got one of those super long waits that worried me about getting into NFA items in the first place!

    • @jakeg2194
      @jakeg2194 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran unfortunately that seems to be the case. My first suppressor took 6 months in 2020, not so lucky this time 😂

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Yeah, it's a hit or miss with our almighty gun control rulers.

    • @justinangelle5571
      @justinangelle5571 Před 2 lety

      Did the same thing waiting on my first suppressor I'm at 8 months now just e filed for an omega 300 1 month ago lol I said the same thing

  • @2wongsdontmakearice588
    @2wongsdontmakearice588 Před rokem +1

    It's pretty crazy hearing how long form 3's take. Mine managed to transfer in 5 days... I hope my luck didn't run out...

  • @svtpower03
    @svtpower03 Před 2 lety

    Purchased my AB Raptor on June 23rd, certified on July 2nd so now the waiting game begins lol. Just gonna try to forget about it for now.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Yup, it’s out of your hands now 👍🏽

  • @jpfan100
    @jpfan100 Před 2 lety

    I purchased mine August 6 2021 form four individual and the check cleared on the 15th that month and I'm still waiting over a year now

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Yeah, I've lost hope in the two suppressors I have in waiting. It's out of my hands and I forget about them most days.

  • @65stang98
    @65stang98 Před 8 měsíci

    think im about to try and bail one out of jail here soon for the first time haha. Gonna do the suppressor first i think since it takes so long then do a form 1 and build an sbr. Excited for this build as its my first nfa item. Always wanted a shorter rifle with a suppressor though they look like so much fun to shoot.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 8 měsíci

      NFA items definitely add a level of fun 👍🏽

  • @EcksDeeee
    @EcksDeeee Před rokem +1

    Oof, I'm on day 160 for my eform 4. 90 days my ass lol. Every time I check online what the estimated wait times are, it keeps going up. Before it said 3-4 months now it is saying 7 months 😒

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Yeah, around 200 days seem to be the norm right now.

  • @Colby.G
    @Colby.G Před rokem

    It took 423 days for my Dead Air Sandman S. Did it the paper route right before they announced E-forms.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      That's rough but at least you got it 👍🏽

  • @randyhaskins3633
    @randyhaskins3633 Před rokem

    You’re lucky er than I was. My 1st one took 15 months ( Individual). My second one took 1 day shy of one year ( trust ). Both were done by silencer shop So, I learned, buy it, do the paperwork and forget about it. It’ll come in when it comes.
    Both were bought before the pandemic bs fiasco started. I am going to buy another soon. So we’ll see how long that one takes

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Right now it's looking like 200+ days for Form 4s but that's still relatively quick for someone like you.

  • @josephsantana3094
    @josephsantana3094 Před rokem

    I purchased mine on 08/24 (did not do a trust) and certified on 09/10. My shop already had my suppressor in hand by 09/10. Everything is done and I'm just waiting now. I'm hoping I can luck out with a fast approval or at least within the claimed 90 days but I've heard some horror stories lately about people waiting 9-12+ months for e-form approvals.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      The wait times seem to be around 200 days right now. I’m currently at 170+ days on two suppressors.

  • @Roboman412
    @Roboman412 Před 2 lety +1

    Paper filed form 4, cashed June 1 2021. Still waiting....

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Hopefully it’s approved soon👍🏽

  • @gv4189
    @gv4189 Před rokem +1

    Very informative video. I hope they have figured out all the bugs out with the E-Form 4. I bought my Rugged Obsidian 45 suppressor on 10-06-22 and had my FFL ready to certify about 5 days later and I received my e-mail from ATF showing Submitted/In Process on 10-15-22. I too also got the Single Shot Trust so I hope it just doesn't take too long. Please hurry so my Baby can come home!!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Be prepared to wait because wait times are typically 200+ days right now.

  • @Justthemow
    @Justthemow Před rokem

    It sux that you have to file the paper work one every suppressor once your approved you should be able to buy them and just send in the paper work

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      You'd think the process would be easier considering what the item is but that's life.

  • @djbaar3301
    @djbaar3301 Před rokem

    I was not aware a flash/sound suppressor for a home defense weapon required an ATF APPROVAL. My ignorance was thinking only a new weapon purchase required a background/concealed carry permit. Live and learn something new every day.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      Yes, there’s quite a large category of firearms that require additional approval.

    • @djbaar3301
      @djbaar3301 Před rokem

      Thank U. Yes until I looked into adding a suppressor to my AR-15 I had no idea. My thought was to help reduce flash & sound in a home defense weapon. Is it just ATF adding more & more rules like with pistol ARs vs SBRs? Or this is just more of what has been?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Both. These have been standard restrictions but more restrictions are continually attempted to be added.

    • @EcksDeeee
      @EcksDeeee Před rokem +1

      It's so stupid that you have to wait 3-12 months for something that protects your hearing...

  • @ilovetech8341
    @ilovetech8341 Před 10 měsíci

    What's the deal with the FFL store wanting more hidden fees at the very last minute? They claim that they need another $100 fee because one surpressor came from another vendor.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 10 měsíci

      So you ordered a suppressor from a different vendor, wanted to transfer it to your local FFL, and wanted them to do the transfer for free?

    • @ilovetech8341
      @ilovetech8341 Před 10 měsíci

      @@HaiTran I wanted them to tell me the final price upfront twelve months ago so I could pay for everything. Not wait twelve months, after the ATF approval, to add on another fee just before trying to pickup the surpressor out the door. I am not expecting anything for free. I expect to be told the final price upfront.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 10 měsíci

      Did you pay for what you suspect to be everything 12 months ago or nothing was paid for until you picked up?

    • @ilovetech8341
      @ilovetech8341 Před 10 měsíci

      @@HaiTran I paid for everything 12 months ago. Around $2400. Two surpressors and the trusts. I should have been told then that there was another $100 fee. Not tell me the day I go to pick up the surpressors. SS and the dealers have a serious systems and communications problem.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 10 měsíci

      Did you order through Silencershop and shipped to a Silencershop dealer? If so, they shouldn't have charged you a transfer fee. You should contact Silencershop and let them know that that FFL is charging their customers frivolous fees. If you didn't go through Silencershop and a Silencershop dealer, then I can understand why they would charge you and extra transfer fee. However, I can't understand why they wouldn't charge that fee when you paid for everything else a year ago. It does sound like they're just trying to extort you for some extra money.

  • @williamwinn948
    @williamwinn948 Před 2 lety +1

    im in NH been looking a sig Suppressors, since they just opened up a massive factory in Epping NH with a sick shooting range so i might try it but i dont like The idea of being put in a system.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Do you have a driver’s license?

  • @gangsterpranksters3724

    I literally can’t find anything on filing as an individual or a trustee I wish you would’ve covered some of the things that are different about them

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      It’s practically the exact same process. Contact the FFL that you’ll be working with as they’ll be the entity handling a portion of the paperwork.

  • @seanberthiaume6909
    @seanberthiaume6909 Před rokem +1

    I've heard people complain about them kioscks!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      People complain about everything. Some valid, some not. Better to try for yourself and develop your own opinions.

    • @seanberthiaume6909
      @seanberthiaume6909 Před rokem

      I did it all on my PC @ home(toutch screen)but 1st of course had to mail photos(1 week for appointment),fingerprints(took 2 weeks for appointment) to silencershop and they forwarded to the ATF.Form 3 approved took another 2 weeks.certified by dealer 7/27/23 and been waiting ever since for form4 approval a Rugged brand Obsidian..

  • @YourLocalLeadFarmer
    @YourLocalLeadFarmer Před 2 lety +1

    Purchased 2/15/22
    Approved 2/28/22
    Idk how, but that was the fastest approval I've ever received for my Dead Air.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Man, you definitely got one of those miracle turn around times. Did you file as an individual?

  • @jfisch01
    @jfisch01 Před 2 lety

    I ordered mine from Silencer Shop using eFourms 4 and Single Shot Trust 5-11 2022, certified 6-12-2022. 95 days from certification and still nothing.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      160+ days on two suppressors here 👍🏽

    • @jfisch01
      @jfisch01 Před rokem

      Now at 107 days, still nothing.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      With the current wait times, I’d suggest not thinking about it too much. You likely have a good amount of time to go.

  • @justinlinscheid813
    @justinlinscheid813 Před 2 lety

    I certified my eform4 on silencer shop on 23rd of June 22 and still haven't got mine yet

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I got two in since April so…..

  • @colefossen8531
    @colefossen8531 Před 2 lety +1

    Purchased a Sandman S on 12/30/2021 as an individual, certified on 2/9/2022. After it’s certified is it just a waiting game? Currently on day 104 after being certified, this is my first suppressor so I just want to make sure I’m not missing anything. Thanks for the help!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +2

      Yup, certifying is the last thing you do before approval/pickup.

  • @chrisfisher3900
    @chrisfisher3900 Před 2 lety +3

    Did your form 4 show up on your eforms dashboard? I was certified on 1/29/22 but not showing squat

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +2

      I haven’t been on the eforms site in awhile because the whole interface is kind of trash and the site is generally buggy for me. I just go off the email that I got and keep a copy of the approved tax stamp on me.

    • @chrisfisher3900
      @chrisfisher3900 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran wasn’t sure if it ever showed anything or not. Thanks!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I hardly ever go on the eforms site because it kind of sucks. I go off the email notifications.

    • @TheOmei
      @TheOmei Před 2 lety +1

      @@chrisfisher3900 Mine doesn't show anything either. all i have is an email as well.

    • @eggsinmacoffee
      @eggsinmacoffee Před 2 lety

      I'm also in the same boat and I found out that it will only show on your dealer's account dashboard until its approved. Then once its been approved it will show on your dashboard. If you got the email that said it was submitted and in progress you're good to go

  • @Thermal_Hunters_of_Texas

    Purchased 9/10/22.
    Certified 9/21/22
    With a trust
    Griffin armament dual lock 5 series
    Pending now

  • @user-to8cu8kz5x
    @user-to8cu8kz5x Před 6 měsíci

    Oh yeah it's easy ,my first by paper took 6 mo.,my second with eforms drumroll ! 16 mo. So far.😢

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 6 měsíci

      That’s rough bro.

    • @user-to8cu8kz5x
      @user-to8cu8kz5x Před 6 měsíci

      Is this G4S Tran, through earl seegars ?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 5 měsíci

      I have no idea what your last comment means.

    • @user-to8cu8kz5x
      @user-to8cu8kz5x Před 5 měsíci

      @HaiTran I knew a Tran that was a student at our security school in Ga. Then went on to work for G4S security, thought it might be you.

  • @DanielBoone337
    @DanielBoone337 Před 2 lety +2

    My first couple NFA items took between a year and a half all the way up to 2 years since then I've bought several others and they've all taken around a year but just paid for a Nomad LT a week ago and went through the eForm 4 process so this should be an easy wait considering how long I'm used to waiting... Thanks for sharing your experience brother it's given me a little hope this is going to be much faster!!!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      I’m hopping to get my Nomad L within a month!

    • @westernoutpost4154
      @westernoutpost4154 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm at 475 days on a SF RC2 can! 2years bro? That's insane!! Although, I feel I might not ever see this can 😢

    • @danielcasillas1133
      @danielcasillas1133 Před rokem +1

      @@westernoutpost4154 that is crazy

    • @MrNizeGuy
      @MrNizeGuy Před rokem

      update?

    • @markw6096
      @markw6096 Před rokem

      13 months for approval with eforms and assistance from my congressman

  • @N_R_S_07
    @N_R_S_07 Před rokem

    I filed an eForm 4 through Silencer Shop on 7/30/22. Still pending ATF approval today, 1/26/23. I called ATF this AM, and they stated new average wait time is 270 days..

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      I share my wait times in this video:
      czcams.com/video/Of-eopZCp5A/video.html

    • @N_R_S_07
      @N_R_S_07 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran Cool. Thanks! Looks like I’ll be waiting closer to a year before I’ll see mine.. This is absurd. Pay extra and wait months for a purchased safety device. Compete nonsense.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      Hopefully the influx of Form 1s don’t effect your wait times too bad.

    • @N_R_S_07
      @N_R_S_07 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran Thanks man.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      No problem 👍🏽

  • @katanapr3
    @katanapr3 Před 2 lety

    Purchase mine on 12/31/21
    Certified on 3/3/22
    Still waiting for approval.

  • @dougbotha8768
    @dougbotha8768 Před rokem +1

    Eforms so far is crap well passed 90 days and nothing. I really do feel a lot safer, having to do a back ground check on a hearing safe Device. Seeing how so many crimes are committed with suppressors.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Unfortunately, it is what it is.

  • @kcutler3142
    @kcutler3142 Před rokem +1

    I am at 180 days...... So painful especially this being my first suppressor.

  • @byronjensen755
    @byronjensen755 Před rokem

    I have never had any e-form under 90 days!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Most people haven’t 👍🏽

  • @ghostsniper777gmail
    @ghostsniper777gmail Před 2 lety

    Your explanation of the Form 3 stage opened my eyes to answer "what is going on with my process?!?" questioning that I was in prior to watching this video! I now see on the progress bar where it says "awaiting Form 3 approval" in tiny letters before clicking "view timeline."
    The only other question I have is : what exactly happens at the certify stage? No one really says - just "certify with your dealer" is mentioned. Am I on the phone (since filed as Trust everyone says "certify remotely") verifying/certifying serial numbers? or am I "certifying" that I am who I say I am? Am I certifying that they received my NFA item (completion of Form 3)?
    I'm just trying to be on the ball so that the wait time before the (90 day ish) wait time begins isn't prolonged more because I didn't do something yet!
    Thank You!!!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm not sure exactly what you're certifying but, basically, both parties log into the ATF portal, both enter their eforms account login, then sign. It's a pretty straightforward step.

    • @ghostsniper777gmail
      @ghostsniper777gmail Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran Thank you so much for your expedient response clearing that up!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Good luck 👍🏽

  • @andrewoxner2941
    @andrewoxner2941 Před rokem

    I bought 13 months ago. The shop waiting until march. So my approval took 8 months. Once you get the approval Email from the ATF. Is this the email that the gun shop needs? or are they waiting on a 2nd email?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      The approval is the final step. That's what you need for pick up.

  • @tonynguyen5362
    @tonynguyen5362 Před rokem

    eForm or paper form, they all very slow, my first suppressor took 10 months paper form, waiting 6 months with eForm, heading out of the country for 2 months, hopefully when I get back my FFL have it ready to pickup

  • @mattjames9755
    @mattjames9755 Před rokem +1

    And I'm still waiting ... over 6 months .....

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      You’re not the only one 👍🏽

  • @indigoblueis1
    @indigoblueis1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Don't expect any help from this The Silencer Shop especially if you don't buy what they sell.

    • @ilovetech8341
      @ilovetech8341 Před 10 měsíci

      The FFL is demanding an extra $100 fee because I ordered a Sig modx9 which happens to come from another vendor. They waited a year to tell me about it. It is shady business practices.

  • @justingreen2172
    @justingreen2172 Před 2 lety

    Ordered mine 8-2021. Still waiting

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I’m assuming you didn’t get to do eforms?

  • @DaddyKnives25
    @DaddyKnives25 Před 2 lety +1

    Purchased mine in January with eform and still waiting, it’s actually been 112 days since I certified.. individual trust too

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Hopefully it’s any day now 👍🏽

  • @ColePerrone
    @ColePerrone Před rokem

    Individual - Form 4 - Eform
    Certified 4/6/22
    still Pending as of 12/8/22 - 246 Days
    Anyone @ or around this time frame?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      You’re one day ahead of me to certify on one of my suppressors. I’m also still waiting.

  • @fromdowntown2963
    @fromdowntown2963 Před 2 lety

    Got my approval yesterday for my efile form 4. Guess I only have a year to receive my suppressor now..yaaayy 😒😒😒😒

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Enjoy it while you can 👍🏽

  • @Mamba503
    @Mamba503 Před 2 lety

    Now I just need to be able to afford a suppressor 😂

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Lol there’s some pretty affordable ones, relatively speaking.

  • @C_oprator89
    @C_oprator89 Před rokem

    Bro....I would make a lovely video too if only 95 days. Christ you are one if like 25 people. Mine bought Dec18, Certified April14, Still waiting

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      I’m at about 8 months with two suppressors…

    • @C_oprator89
      @C_oprator89 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran yea I swear after April things got so messed up with the everything I haven’t heard of anyone around here in nc getting theirs. I mean it sucks yea ofcourse but if you woulda seen the guy at the ffl and the sign spinner back in December 2021 with the 90 day approval. Glad you got at least some of yours rather quickly

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Dam they were hella pushing it if they got a sign spinner out there.

    • @C_oprator89
      @C_oprator89 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran I may have made that part up…but they almost did lol.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      I got some SBR’s that I want to buy but at this point, there’s no certainty if I’ll ever see them so I’m preparing for the Form 1 route for a lot of stuff.

  • @adamgriffin
    @adamgriffin Před 2 lety

    Purchased on 04/26/22
    Still waiting on "Preparing for eForms" to turn green 😢

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Someone’s slacking with your paperwork!

    • @bobbyjoedill
      @bobbyjoedill Před 2 lety

      Their system hasn't been updating people. I'd call your dealer and ask them to check on their end.

    • @ghostsniper777gmail
      @ghostsniper777gmail Před 2 lety

      I was in the same boat before I saw this video and now notice that when you click "view" in orders menu and the pop up shows your item with the status bar next to it mine says : "Current Stage: Form 4: Customer Signatures Complete - Awaiting Form 3 Approval". For the life of me I can't see when the Form 3 was filed (another comment on this video said Silencer Shop page shows it) but that explains why my "Preparing for eForms" stage hasn't turned green yet! They're waiting for my item to ship from Texas to my gun store!

  • @jonvanwyk2026
    @jonvanwyk2026 Před 2 lety

    Had a paper Form 4 Trust go into a "pending" status with ATF on June 1, 2021. It's now May 26, 2022 and my application is still in a "pending" status.
    😒

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Better start making some friends at the ATF so you can get someone to push that through!

  • @tacticalcharlie4696
    @tacticalcharlie4696 Před rokem

    Honestly i been wanting a suppressor for like a year now and i just hate the fact that i gotta wait for it and not be able to use it for only atf knows how long as the only shop with a kiosk in my area is the one without a shooting range

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Yeah, unfortunately it is what it is. Either you play along or you don’t get the NFA items.

    • @bigcrackrock
      @bigcrackrock Před rokem

      Same but considering I've been following that logic for a decade and still wanting one it doesn't make sense at this point. So I went ahead and finally started the process.

  • @gregsworkshop2
    @gregsworkshop2 Před rokem

    Eform 4 is a joke, My FFL sent in the form on 6/18/22 and I'm still waiting as of 10/14/22.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      I’ve been waiting since the beginning of April 👍🏽

  • @scott2228
    @scott2228 Před rokem

    It’s 2023 and I’m past month 7. Still waiting. Lol. It’s the govt. they suck.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Check the pinned comment for my wait times.

  • @kaitabad
    @kaitabad Před 2 lety

    It’s been 129 days from being certified and I’m still waiting approval..haven’t even got a notice yet that the check has been cashed yet

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Yup. I’m well over 90 days on 2 suppressors at the moment. There’s clearly some deficiencies in this system.

    • @robr6925
      @robr6925 Před 2 lety

      130

    • @kaitabad
      @kaitabad Před 2 lety

      Any of you guys get approved yet? Hal or Rob?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      150+ days and still no approvals.

    • @kaitabad
      @kaitabad Před 2 lety

      Dang…hoping for some encouragement, lol

  • @Redbusser40
    @Redbusser40 Před 2 lety +1

    Once you get an email saying the your form 4 has been approved by the atf can you go pick up your item right away or do you have to wait for paper tax stamp to arrive? Thanks !

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      For both of the suppressors that I picked up, I just went and got them but I called to see what my FFL’s procedure is. I would suggest that you do that for your FFL. It’s just advised that you keep a copy of the Form 4 on you when traveling with an NFA item just in case you get in legal trouble and are questioned about it.

    • @Redbusser40
      @Redbusser40 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran thanks !

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Good luck!

    • @svtpower03
      @svtpower03 Před 2 lety +2

      I believe they email you the stamp now instead so your good to pick it up. Saw it at my local shop last week. I’m in NFA jail now waiting for my stamp

    • @Redbusser40
      @Redbusser40 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran 2/26 still nothing 😞

  • @44thala49
    @44thala49 Před rokem

    16 months and still waiting on the stamp from my overlords

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Did you do paper filing?

  • @Aidian1
    @Aidian1 Před rokem

    Does my silencer shop account email have to be the same as my eform receipt email or maintenance email?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      It’s been awhile, but I believe so. You may want to check with SilencerShop.

    • @Aidian1
      @Aidian1 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran Thanks for responding lol I haven't been able to get a response from anyone anywhere 😭

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, when they get busy, SilencerShop is really bad about getting to customers. I remember having to wait for hours on hold just to talk to someone.

  • @joshbrown1381
    @joshbrown1381 Před 2 lety

    Paper Form 4 Individual I am at 528 days.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Dam! Going on two years!

  • @daviddrago9360
    @daviddrago9360 Před 2 lety +1

    BS I’m going into 150+ days waiting through e-forms and don’t guarantee crap.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I’m 150+ days with two suppressors at the moment. Also, it was never a guarantee, more of a we’ll try to keep it quick.

  • @JusstinC
    @JusstinC Před rokem

    i’m currently 4month into waiting for my e form to get approved 😭

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      You likely still have a pretty long wait so just stop thinking about it.

    • @JusstinC
      @JusstinC Před rokem

      @@HaiTran how much longer do you think?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Absolutely no way of predicting but multiple people have commented about how they’ve been waiting about a year now. All you can do is hope that your application is faster.

  • @mrsmith-jc1wd
    @mrsmith-jc1wd Před 2 lety

    It took me 15 months to get mine back but it was before the eforms came out the wait just sucked...

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I’m definitely finding out that the 90 days is definitely a soft estimate as I’m over 120 days on two suppressors right now.

    • @mrsmith-jc1wd
      @mrsmith-jc1wd Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran they scared me away with the first wait, that's why I got a chimera 300. Fits my 300 black out my 5.56 and my 7.62×39 got one to do it all. But she lives on my 300.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Enjoy it 👍🏽

  • @TailSpin215
    @TailSpin215 Před 2 lety +1

    My form 3 was submitted on 5/1 and was just approved today (5/5). 🤞 the form 4 will go quickly as well!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Hopefully it will and good luck!

    • @mikes8915
      @mikes8915 Před 2 lety

      How do you know when they submit your form 3 ? And did anyone else get a docusign email form silencer shop that filed as individual?? Please help lol

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      For my Form 3s, I asked. It’s not something FFLs actively keep you updated on because it’s not really something you need to know.

    • @mikes8915
      @mikes8915 Před 2 lety

      Thanks

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      No problem 👍🏽

  • @carsonradford2760
    @carsonradford2760 Před 2 lety

    Just got a recieved and uploaded email from silencershop, now do i wait on the certify email?

    • @carsonradford2760
      @carsonradford2760 Před 2 lety

      For a trust

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      If you've done all the paperwork, certifying is the last thing that you do, then wait.

  • @ScottPray
    @ScottPray Před rokem

    Purchased in April 17th 2022... still waiting it's Dec 23... over 240 days now... 90 day scam

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      My third just got approved yesterday at 259 days. One more to go!

  • @theeoarsman921
    @theeoarsman921 Před 2 lety

    Seven months and counting!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I’m currently over 90 days on two suppressors so we’ll see how that goes 🙄

  • @x2fr3shx96
    @x2fr3shx96 Před rokem

    Have your other suppressors gotten approved yet?

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Look at the pinned comment for this video or this: czcams.com/video/Of-eopZCp5A/video.html

    • @x2fr3shx96
      @x2fr3shx96 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran i saw ur other video right after the comment lol. Thanks for the info.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      No problem 👍🏽

  • @johnluchetti1457
    @johnluchetti1457 Před 2 lety +1

    90 days is BS! I’m at day 149

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Total crapshoot 👍🏽

    • @waltermatney6090
      @waltermatney6090 Před 2 lety

      Yep I’m 135 days now probably , probably always going to be 6 , 8 months .
      Is the government they never will get any better because they don’t have to
      They absolutely answer to nobody they take your money and then they said around and laugh at you.
      Your basic store clerk can run a background check on you in a matter of minutes but the government takes months even years go figure

  • @thasherm
    @thasherm Před 2 lety

    eForms is a complete shitshow. Average approvals since you posted this are now up to 200+ days. Nowhere near the "estimated 90 day approval". It's better than Paper, but it still sucks

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      Yup, I have 2 suppressors at 160+ days at the moment.

  • @yamahapeanut44
    @yamahapeanut44 Před rokem

    So far 338 days into eforms. Still waiting

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      I’m 200+ days on two suppressors at the moment. Things aren’t looking too good.

    • @yamahapeanut44
      @yamahapeanut44 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran not at all. They took six months to certify me. Purchased 11/22/2021. Efile.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Wow that’s crazy. So the outlook for you is presumably very bleak and a lot of waiting left for you.

    • @yamahapeanut44
      @yamahapeanut44 Před rokem

      @@HaiTran yea. Silencershop really held my process up

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem +1

      Well, it’s out of your hands now so just set it and forget it 👍🏽

  • @colbyc.6698
    @colbyc.6698 Před 9 měsíci

    At 230 days

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hopefully almost there 👍🏽

    • @colbyc.6698
      @colbyc.6698 Před 9 měsíci

      @@HaiTran just got approved

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 9 měsíci

      That’s pretty good timing. Now go and enjoy it!

    • @colbyc.6698
      @colbyc.6698 Před 9 měsíci

      @@HaiTran I sent an email to my congressman yesterday about ATF wait times and asked for any help and today got approved

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 9 měsíci +1

      lol probably just a coincidence but you never know.

  •  Před rokem

    I'm at 195 days E form trust silencer central 🤦

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před rokem

      Some people have been getting them around 200 days so hopefully soon for you 👍🏽

  • @thedungeon9992
    @thedungeon9992 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m like at 89 days :(

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      I was over 90 days on both the ones I received so it’s definitely a possibility.

    • @thedungeon9992
      @thedungeon9992 Před 2 lety

      Thanks bro !

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      No problem and good luck bro 👍🏽

    • @thedungeon9992
      @thedungeon9992 Před 2 lety

      Do not despair y’all!!! Mine just got approved today !!! After 200+ days have faith!!!

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Sigh...that's both good and terrible news! I think I'm at 160+ days on 2 suppressors right now.

  • @michaelcarton3299
    @michaelcarton3299 Před 2 lety

    This hasn't aged well. Seriously, they're typically now taking anywhere from $180 to 195 days. It's only getting worse

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      130+ days currently on two suppressors. ATF FTW 👍🏽

    • @michaelcarton3299
      @michaelcarton3299 Před 2 lety

      @@HaiTran yep. I'm on day 160. On Reddit there are nfa groups charting the data. The amount of approvals per week steadily drops. Approval times increase.its trending to be worse than paper forms. By the year end it will for sure be 250 days or more.

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety

      I’m just trying to get my two suppressors on hold then I’ll probably stop with the NFA items for awhile to wait for some consistency in the wait times.

  • @dwwhat3852
    @dwwhat3852 Před 2 lety

    120 day's and still waiting 😡

    • @HaiTran
      @HaiTran  Před 2 lety +1

      Total crapshoot 👍🏽