Making an Edge Finder ---- On a Manual mill ???
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- čas přidán 9. 10. 2019
- In this video I duplicate a project assigned to me in my early years of machining. A useful tool that has more than paid me back for my efforts. Take a look !!
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I am always amazed at the shallowness of some minds when they comment that they can buy one for $20. The value of your video to me is how edge finders are made and function, how you can use a mill to do lathe operations and if you choose you can relax and do a project that in the end is useful. Thank you for your videos-I look forward to every one!
Thank you very much. I honestly try to structure my videos to show you more than just the demonstration. if you leave thinking "Hey, I could use that technique to do this", then I have achieved my goal.
@@joepie221 I think that what you describe is the best kind of teaching. I was going to buy an edge finder but now I will make one on my lathe instead.
It’s sad isn’t it that there are so many crabby people who just don’t get any pleasure out of interesting and informative videos like this?
I’m in school to be a machinist right now, and the school doesn’t provide any tools other than a micrometer, calipers, center drills, and HSS blanks. We make our own tools, like v blocks, machinist hammers, punches, toolholders, etc. this will be my next project on the mill.
Its easier on the lathe, but have fun, and heat treat the parts.
I made one in my beginner machining class about a year ago and can't even compare it to my auction find Hermann Schmidt (Unicorn af). In a pinch I will use whatever endmill and a mic'd piece of paper for large tolerance parts. Who says manual machining is dead? I'm 22 and learning all the forgotten tricks from a master.
manual machine is more alive than ever. they gotta make the housing standards for garage heights to accommodate a vertical mill right thru
Thanks for setting up and running through this using the mill - I think it helps us novice viewers to see different paths to reach the same end result.
Joe, Great project! When drilling the center you may want to chuck the part in the spindle collet and the drills in the vice. Use the mill like a lathe as you did for cutoff and facing. When the part is spinning the drill will follow the center line of the part. This will also eliminate the possibility of crushing the hollow cylinder in the vice. The complication would be in locating the drills on center under the spindle. A small bit of math and the DRO solves this for different diameters.
Hi Joe, great little project. I made an edge finder with a difference. Mine has a magnet in place of the spring which lets me change tips easily. This allows you to have multiple tips for various applications..
@Brian Evans I guess the magnetic edge finder could get "magnetized" and "snap" on to the edge (if steel) and indicate false? Or is this just speculation?
Your video's are a great way for us novices to develop our machining skills. I watch your videos with a notepad and make frequent use of the 'Snip' tool to catch images of the little tricks and useful gadgets that show up in your videos. I'm off to make a pair of those 'nifty' little work stops, just like Tad below!!
Looking forward to the Yucatan dive footage, in the 80's I did a couple of short, 'easy' cave dives in Yorkshire (UK) to pass flooded sumps. The vis was 12-18 inches (I mean inches, not feet), all I could see was a short section of the orange lifeline disappearing into the gloom ahead and a small patch of mud cover rock. Character building!!!
Cheers Paul in NZ
@Paul N I worked in commercial diving years ago, two problems that are fairly common in very low visibility are hallucinations and imagination run amok. Let's say the job is recovering an anchor in very poor visibility( like the harbor at the island of Jersey when the sea has been rough for weeks), you can't see 6" so you work entierly by feel. In circumstances like that one's imagination tends to mislead and torment you, the best thing to do is mask out your faceplate. If you know you can't see a thing your senses improve and your imagination lightens up.
Great build. I always thought there was more to building an edge finder.
There are a few different internal features, but they are pretty simple.
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Joe, most of the videos I have seen get the edge finder to run true (with a spanner for safety!), watching you flick it into the error state allows you to creep up on the edge. Brilliant!
I spent a bunch of time getting it to spin true when I first started with my mill. It was the wrong way for me. Having them wobble at the start works much better for me. I do usually center it after I'm done to check the offset over the edge or corner or centerline, the scales on my DRO can sometimes jump to I like to be certain I'm starting at the right spot.
@Chris Perhaps he's using a wiggler instead of an edge finder - that would be set true to start.
'I bet a lotta light bulbs just went on huh ? ' yeah Joe every time I watch one of your videos, thanks !
Thanks 👍
As a "semi-advanced beginner" some of your videos go over my head (for example, I need a much more basic rotary table video)--but I enjoy all of them. This one is one of my favorites so far. Not only do I now know how to make an edgefinder, but I also have gained some new ideas about how to fix several sticky ones that I've picked up used. The best part, though, is the way in this video you explain and encourage using and adapting the equipment one has, along with some hardware store parts, to get the job done. Very inspiring!
You are a very talented teacher, and have posted some of THE best machining techniques related videos on this platform. I have nothing to add to your awesomeness for sharing your knowledge apart from highly recommending getting a small remote mic for your video productions for voice clarity.
NEVER TOO OLD TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW. THE PARTING TOOL IDEA GAVE ME AN AHAA MOMENT FOR SOME STUFF I BEEN STRUGGLING ON THE LATHE WITH. THANKS
Nice example of lateral thinking, like the gauge pin trick to line up horizontal diameters.
Many thanks for sharing.
I love your quick estimated metric conversions... quick and "out of the air" works fine for me and really really helps me to undrrstand your "strange American measurements". :)
My guesses will be close, but certainly not exact.
This is gold Joe! I have been using Tally Ho papers with a 5mm dowel pin for the past 10 years.... This is next on the project list.
A lot simpler than I realized. Guess I need to make a couple.
Thanks for sharing Joe. I’m getting a mill and lathe next week. I haven’t done metal work since I had a back injury when I was a mechanic, so these video really help.
Love your videos Joe: You You Tube fellas are replacing our lost trade schools. As a 70 year old toolmaker I'm still learning. I like a .50 dia. edge finder because if I forget to compensate for my finder its usually a glaring problem at the first hole or cut and has saved me a lot of scrap. Good job mate.
Thank you.
Holding the spring out with the scale. Genius!
It's nice to see you back on the Tube again. Also looking forward to watching your cave diving videos..
The entry was very deep in the jungle. I don't know how these guys even find those holes. Stay tuned.
I've got a few different diameters of 01 drill rod, I'm all over this! Just have to sneak away from my inletting project without being noticed . . . .
Great video as usual Joe. Be well.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that has shot an acid core brush across the room putting cutting oil on a drill operation........... As always - A great job! Thanks for sharing!
The best event is when a knurling tool eats one.
I have have a long list of projects I want to do but this one is going right to the top of that list!
This turning in the mill technique is also handy for DIY mill arbours because tooling tapers on the mill and lathe are generally different and work holding such parts can be challenging when it is time to machine the other end of the arbour.
A nice little project, although I'd be using the lathe rather than mill. I have four edge finders, including one I made as an apprentice 52 years ago, but I can see myself copying this design for number five.
Thanks Joe. Love that trick with the parting blade.
Thanks Joe, I Like the creative thinking for parting off using the mill!
I’m always so pleased when you release Your videos that have simple but really helpful stuff for home machinists. Thanks so much for sharing. Hope you had fun in the caves dude. 👍
What a great build! Love learning new ways to tackle projects. Had not even considered a mill being able to do lathe type work.
I love the way you structure your videos. And also your humor... "shit that's hot, as would be indicated by the smoke..."🤣
Just found your channel very informative always like watching an expert who is passionate in his craft.
I can’t wait to start making my own edge finder Thank you for such a clear, concise explanation.
I love the macro shots. Beautiful job
Hi Joe !
Oh, really nice little project for the shop - thx for sharing the idea !
It was a good project. I think it took me a couple days when I was just getting started. Never realized how much use it would get.
Great project idea Joe. Thanks and can't wait for the scuba video.👍👍
Thanks so much, I’ve been trying to find a 6mm edge finder forever and now I can just make one. 👍🏼
This one popped up today. Love making tools to last a lifetime Joe. Thanks a bunch. This was fun. I am a diver but never had the privilege to do a cave. The northern tip of Vancouver Island in BC Canada has amazing cold water dives. Pacific giant octopus and friendly 8 ft woolf eels and 4 ft tall orange or white anemones to name a few. Oh yea, dungeness crab for dinner. Kings a bit north of there. Always remember that divers do it in the deep eh, LOL. Take care and stay safe teach.
Awesome. Great project. Definitely needed in shop. Thank you for sharing
Nice project Joe, thanks for sharing! Looking forward to the cave dives, sounds like an awesome adventure! Also looking forward to seeing you soon buddy!
A very handy item, thanks for sharing.
Joe, yet another fantastic and instructional video! Thanks for taking the time necessary to share it with us!
Hey Guy. thanks for checking in. Its a good mill project if you don't have a lathe. Fly safe my friend and remember my invitation is always good.
This will be a great tool to have in my tool chest. Thanks for creating a project that is so useful.
Joe, thank you so much for all that you share. I think I'll make this one of my 1st projects this winter after I get done putting my mill together.
Thanks for another great video. Really liked seeing the parting and turning bits used on the mill.
Glad you enjoyed it
Experienced electronics engineer here, total rookie machinist. Can’t express how much I love this video. I learned so much! Thank you.
I appreciate you watching.
Absolutely fascinating, thank you! Especially like the milling machine lathing techniques--highly envious!
Lacking either a Lathe or a Mill my Cordless Drill is nervously looking towards me as I keep smirking back at it ;D
Great stuff as always Joe! A simple tool that is in a way very gratifying to make and immensely useful to have. I'm not a machinist but my philosophy in life is to share and mentor where I can , a nice little project for my friend and student Leon to tackle to build character and confidence! Thanks a bunch! :)
So simple! So elegant! Fantastic...
This is so good ! Simple, doable, useful!
Hi Joe, thanks for the tip with the parting tool in the Vice, I would have never come up with that idea, so simple, another great little product 👍😀
Very unorthodox project for a mill, but fun.
It amazes me how many things people buy for the mill, lathe and shop they can make with the equipment they have in the shop.
Much of it from scraps picked up for free.
I agree.
Thanks for the video. You showed some techniques that I had not thought about.
Great content Joe!! Thanks for sharing.
I do like the idea of chucking lathe tools in the vise . The Parting tools seem to even be smoother than they are in the lathe . Gotta make the edge finder today . Great Video Joe !!
I agree, a very good project to do. Thank You Joe.
I have a nice Starrett edge finder, but now I am off to the lathe to make a non stepped version. A few really good tips in the video Joe. Thank you!
It looks like once you get a mill & a measuring device such as a dial indicator and you can basically make a lot of the other tools that you need. Great video and thanks for sharing.
Thanks Joe, very nice easy edge finder, will have to make a couple.
great video thanks for taking the time to make it
great project. will be making one of these next week
I first found u by googling tooling ball video. Hard to believe that I've been a manual and CNC machinist since '96 "when I graduated" and I had never used one, until about a month ago. You helped me understand what I needed to know and what to order. Love your videos and keep it up.
Cemco expander/shrinkers. Press repair and now tool and die and forms
Thanks for watching.
What a bloody good project for someone just starting off on their machining career Joe. I bought a cheap Chinese one but I will certainly knock one up on my new lathe! Thanks for showing this, glad you had a good time diving those caves! Cheers from Olde England!
Wondaful
I also see someone has made their mark in about exactly the same place as my vise is marked !
Would you believe me if I said I didn't do that? ( I'd be lying, but just wanted to know)
Great video, for edge finding larger diameters this is awesome, I need to quickly make one for that. My eyes are not what they used to be, so a larger kick is useful to me as well
Many thanks, that is quite interesting. My edge finder was bought and basically works the same way but has a ball end in a socket at the arbor and the other end a precision ground 0.100 end. Much harder to make. I can't see them advertised anywhere any more though. I do like this setup though and thanks for the ideas on how to fit things to awkward springs!
Great video Joe. Very affordable Edge Finder. Thanks for sharing
Gonna try and make this! Nice one.
Thanks, Joe 😊. Due to a certain new tool in my shop I'm gonna need some of these 😁.
Cheers!
Great video. I will put that on my someday list.
Thanks this will be another winter project for me.
Some neat ideas, Joe. Never thought of using a parting tool on the mill...
Thank you for posting this, I always learn (usually a lot) from your videos! Thanks again!
Cool edge finder Joe ! I'll make one ! Thanks...
Great video . . . from a novice that really enjoys learning.
Great Little project !!
This goes on my list of to do. Thanks Joe
Another good one Joe - interesting to see the mill approach.
May even make me a home made finder!
Thank you Joe, I just brought my first mill and I was going to buy one but now I’ll be making one so thank you mate, very much appreciated, Merry Christmas to you and all your family, Matty
Thanks Matty. Merry Christmas to you as well.
Nice project! Thanks for sharing :)
Great idea, thanks Joe!
i've made a few custom edgefinders when the ol' starrett 827b can't reach the edge i need to find. made one with a long reach, made one with a long reach but also a disc type feature on the end, all ground to precise diameters to make offsets easier. cnc machines have mostly made the weirder ones obsolescent, but it sure is faster (and cheaper) to make a new custom tip instead of buying a custom probe and waiting for it to ship
Great Video, awesome teaching, Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing, again, very helpful!
Awhile back I watched your video on sharpening drills Man I put to use what I watched and now I find myself touching them up instead of waiting till they won’t cut to sharpen them Great and easy to understand videos keep up the good work. And the bits I use or 2” through 2 3/4”
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Very Nice! Thanks for sharing
Good one Joe! A deceptively simple project producing a useful tool.
thank you for this useful mill tool
as always i appreciate your efforts in showing us how to become better our home hobby efforts
thank you for your time and efforts to produce very informative videos
Joe, the added value is that I now know how an edge finder works. I will be making one shortly! Probably on the lathe though. Easier? Maybe for me.
Thanks for the weekend project Joe..😁😁
That parting tool deal was cool. I like it.
I totally made one back in my Navy days when I saw what the petty officers were using, except I had a single adjustment knurled piece on the back that was threaded just a little bigger (10% maybe) than what the actual pitch and diameter of what the spring was, kind of a friction thread for a spring. It only had four components. I could have used a screw like he did, but I never saw one up close, so I was kinda winging the design, but it worked great. Was able to make our wedding rings out of monel while on duty one night, too, with a 5 prong solitare setting and a Bridgeport. The guy at the jewelry kyosk at the mall had a helluva time getting the cubic zirconium in it; he broke 3 of his stones, lol. I warned him!
Very interesting, believe I'll have to make one
Just made one ( on the lathe ) and works great.. took a half hour with hardening the tool. Thanks
Awesome!
I have some W1 tool steel.
I had other plans for it - but I knew I'd have a lot of extra stock... I think I just found a good use for that extra...
I'll make it on the lathe though.
Thank you for sharing - that is a brilliant idea...!!!
Pretty slick. 'Nother project on the list. Thanks Joe.
very cool project , thanks for the video.
Thanks Joe. I plan to make one, two or more.
A Fender trem spring,available from music shops is perfect.