Puberty-stage adolescents are neither children nor adults. Children represent individuals who have not yet reached puberty (pre-puberty individuals). Adults are post-puberty individuals . The term "underage-women" refers to the legal age of sexual consent as it relates all persons who have undergone puberty (sexual maturity). Since the young women Epstein had sex with were not pre-puberty individuals, they cannot biologically be classified as children since children exist in a pre-puberty biological state. With regards to the legal age of consent when it comes to the matter of sexual intercourse, the law on this matter differs from country to country.
I notice the fuck out of that too every time hes on... he adds just a little bit of input or opinion just to agree then strays off the topic to guide the narrative away or to things.
Frank Castle well, the saying goes “once a company man, always a company man”. Even and especially among company men. But I get your point and totally agree. (Oh shit, the company has my name...)
You gotta give it to Mike Baker. I bet he was a great case officer. He instantly takes the other person's temperature on the issue. Then both agrees with them and matches their energy. He can makes witty quips very in line with the other person's opinions and comes across as very likeable. And he does all of it without actually giving any information whatsoever. It's pretty damn impressive.
Thank you for your interesting podcasts, so grateful. We could all help move the needle on a topic to the benefit of all children and women around the world, and to resolve international crime💟
Mike Maolucci i get excited when i see this guy is on, and 5 minutes in i remember he never says a damn thing, except about his kids with dumbass names
I know right. Like we don't ALL know that the CIA (and any intelligence agency for that matter) would do whatever it takes to obtain the intel they want.
Once an agent, always an agent. Dude aint breaking his oath, he knows what not to say, what would get him in a 'fatal car accident' or 'shot during a mugging' type shit.
The nature of the CIA is such that it has secrets within secrets. This man can say honestly that as far as he knows they don't do that..because he has never seen it done..but the overwhelming evidence has told us that in fact they do operate this way. Not to mention he is under lifetime contract to never divulge such information. So hey..great story and I still enjoy and appreciate his contribution here.
Yeah people always get so upset that he doesn’t come on the podcast and drop a bunch of groundbreaking secrets that we never knew about the CIA which is such a goofy thing to ever actually think to be possible. For one, some of the super serious shit if it in fact exists would still be well hidden in the organization and you wouldn’t be likely to even know anything about it if you weren’t an extremely high ranking officer in the org and probably would have to have some sort of need to know aspect on top of that. It seems like some people have it in their mind that you simply work there and suddenly you learn everything about all that’s happened or happening, even the most protected shit, by virtue of working there. This dude was a field officer. He wasn’t working in the actual office and making all the plans. He was the dude carrying out the shit he was told to do by the office folks. But even if we ignore all of those things that very realistically could mean there are more covert shit he may have no clue about because he wasn’t at a level where he’d be the guy involved in it do people not realize he wouldn’t be allowed to talk about any of that shit? If the dude came on and spoke out about all the stuff people think he should he’d be arrested in a heartbeat for espionage etc etc. So the whining is so silly. The only merit I’d give the complaining is that if he can’t truly share anything maybe he shouldn’t be speaking long form on stuff he can’t truly be transparent about. But even so I enjoy what is there because I set the realistic expectations of what I’ll hear.
I came into chat just say this but, you both said it better. The compartmentalized nature of the agency can be the only answer why this guy could "honestly" say that the agency doesn't use honeypot techniques.
What’s that movie I think it’s called “The Good Shepherd” with Matt Damon Angelina Jolie Robert De Niro etc. showing the beginnings of the OSS and formation of the CIA and man the job sounds great and all but the way you have to live where you can’t trust anything anyone says no matter what and everyone’s always trying to stab you in the back
@@jon8004 They killed Mcafee too, I never said the CIA killed him, the Government did or some shadow entity that has their blessing. So this man gets a sweet heart plea deal and the Government at every level just let this shit happen while many utilized his services. We know the CIA does the most shadiest shit and compromising Americans and highly influential people globally is not beneath our Government intelligence. I literally just heard this guy break it down after claiming they don;t do it. They do it, all the time!
The most upsetting thing to me is it is 2 years since this video was made. And here we are. Nowhere and with no answer and justification for the victims. Money really does buy power.
Money doesn’t buy power money is power and we already knew that Epstein was going to “kill himself” before they did it because of his connection to bill Clinton. And all we could do was make memes
Compartmentalization is key to secrecy. Iv worked on experimental aviation parts for government contracts only thing known was rumors and spec measurements
He was a hedge fund manager, insider information was very valuable to him. He became so proficient at blackmailing to obtain this information he spun off a blackmailing enterprise and together they provided him with huge leverage and annexed many high profile individuals who were caught in the web just by being associated with him.
I suspect it came from the billionaires who he set up in very compromising situations and then blackmailed them. Les Wexner supposedly GAVE jim his multi-million dollar apt. In Manhattan. Who the hell does THAT? Blackmail.
I remember that interview with Bill Gates where they asked him about Epstein, and he just said something like "Well, he's dead now, so..." It sent chills down my spine.
@@grimmertwin2148 respectfully, they don’t care conspiracy theorists. They already pushed the narrative that conspiracy theorists are crazy and a few hundred thousand out of hundreds of millions of people questioning them isn’t that big of a deal to them
100%... He's usually so calculated and thoughtful in what he says. But that just flew out unfiltered 🤣 and my jaw hit the f***ing floor. Before he said that, I'd had a slim bit of hope that he was just too awkwardly to notice the Pedo vibe. But no way. Dude was like pretty happy to see an "acquaintance" dead and toss that memory into the closet with his hard drives. Like BLECHHHH It just ruined any good he's done by way of technology. And now he's buying up ridiculous amounts of farmers land. Bill Gates is scum to me.
The term "conspiracy theory" was invented by the CIA in the 1970s They created it to undermine and discredit anyone who claimed the CIA was engaged in conspiratorial projects
Bill Barr was best friends with Epstein's father...a father who penned a sci-fi novel that was about colonizing a planet with a harram of underage girls...yup nothing to see here...smh
The average number of hours in a day that people need to shower+sleep. Meaning that he could easily reorganize his life around "jail time" so that it basically becomes meaningless.
@@S4Daves Nope, it's not about race/racism, as much as the elite would like you to blindly believe (because then you're no threat to them). It's much more ancient... and sinister
"We lied, we cheated, we stole" - Ex-CIA director Mike Pompeo This agent definitely knows whats going on. He plays the same game. They are trained to do so.
LoL everyone does this. I dont care who you are, no one is clean. Youve stolen something - everyone just has this stupid excuse on why its not considered stealing. Thats what the common stereotypical bad guy is for - so we can see someone dirtier than us.
I love how he says “we don’t use those tactics” and throws the “they won’t believe” me bull in front of it, then he proceeds to explain how the cia would do that exact thing to other countries😅😂🤦♂️ obviously guy was trained how to do it because it’s a tactic that gets used by everyone.
Until Lisa Hamilton Hamilton reality Tigard Oregon and her Sherwood Oregon pedo ring is investigated.start the search in Dillion Montana Beaverhead county
@@tythompson4794 under-aged women/men= teenager (13-17), children= children. either way its all the same in the end. both are illegal and saying underaged women instead of children has the same principle in meaning
I think he says a lot of stuff, in a discreet way. Think this guy just gonna list all the classified information in the world? What do you think how fast he would.. get suicided
People forget that the government workers will never expose the government unless they fully turn their back on them.. & with that is death but if everyone could hold one head & fight these high people.. we win.. robots can never be smarter & wiser than humans.
They don’t care how obvious it looks that he didn’t kill himself, they just know that it’s near impossible to prove. And that’s all you need to get away with it.
That and some lazy diversity hire guards who are too busy surfing the internet to walk 15 feet and check if the highest profile prisoner in the world is still breathing.
Good to see most of the comment section realise that this guy who worked for the government isn’t the best person to actually listen to much less believe anything he says
I love how everyone says, “I’m not a conspiracy theorist but…” If you don’t believe this entire world was built on conspiracy, then you’re ignorant or you’re lying! There are thousands of books out there by very credible investigative journalists, that should have put many people in prison for life! But those who pay the bills, call the shots! (Pun intended!)
CIA Guy: "No, the Agency doesn't do that. We don't do that. We don't try into coerce somebody into a relationship that we can take advantage of." .... CIA Guy (30 sec later) : **explains very detailed, specific, and Western-sounding example of how to do exactly that** Ok, guy.
Are you saying the CIA paid this guy some cash and said "go in there and do damage control on this Epstein thing... because Joe keep his audience riled up." (Quiet him down he's got too many followers0 ?
@@questioneverything4120 idk the liar and cheater one isnt nessisarly true. I was a massive cheater when I was younger, couldnt keep it in my pants. I havent cheated in so long now, the concept is revolting to me. And the woman I'm with I havent even came close to cheating on once. Depends on the person I guess
mike baker openly runs a "consultant" company with other ex spies. which obviously means the agency (and other powerful people internationally) probably goes to him when they need to go outside their walls. he may not be with them but he is with them if ya know what i mean
Gabriel Lukkes: The absence of desire to cheat in recent years, contrary to your past serial cheating, may have more of a physiological basis though (as in, changing libido or testosterone levels). I'm sure greater emotional maturity may also play a part, of course.
Epstein worked for Israeli Mossad and ran blackmail operations on politicians and celebrities...How do you think they got everyone to run with this bullshit covid narrative??? Bribery and blackmail
The CIA is well known to make use of honeypots. He's just outright lying. In the 40s and 50s they bugged restrooms in theaters to glean information, they've run brothels and recorded clients, and they were part of Jeffrey Epstein's scam. Epstein wasn't a billionaire, he was an agent probably for Mossad, Mi6, and the CIA. Alex Acosta even said he Epstein was "intelligence" which is why he couldn't throw the book at him, and had to settle for a 3 year puff sentence.
@@davidmaitland3238 *"You're cooked mate"* Why bother to say anything, when you've said nothing? WTF does "you're cooked mate" even mean? Especially in regard to what I've said? A dumb response like that, could literally be applied to anything anybody has ever said. That is one of the most meaningless, pointless responses I've ever seen.
He immediately lied too, said the queen kicked Andrew to the curb over the allegations.. she still hasn’t and the royal family are as close to openly pedophiles as you can get in the western world Wouldn’t trust this assholes opinion
Ben Abbott oh here comes the Brits with their systemic pedophile defending culture... ABC had victims of Andrews ready to be interviewed 3 years ago and got pressured from the queen and other top royals according to the lead investigative journalist.. even right wing British tabloids admit that the queen is sticking by Andrew privately, so you can fuck off with the creepy pedophile defending... just because it’s sown into your culture at every single level doesn’t mean other people are as easily tricked
Bob Dance yeah it’s an open secret in England that the royal family are enormous pedos.. the defence that royalists have is that the law doesn’t apply to royals therefore it’s not pedophilia
Joe Hogan Thank you, knew I couldn’t have been the only one hearing him speak out of both sides of his shit eating mouth. “Maybe our kids are on the same soccer team.” Fucking manipulative pieces of shit. And it’s just normal everyday shit to them.
Joe Hogan They’re the fios lady who’s excited to learn about your marijuana habits. They’re the other bowling coach that’s always interested in what you’re up to. They’re the customer that takes an extra interest in you and tries to lure you to their private homes where they ask questions about your life and how you feel about America. Once you wake up and see these narcs, you see they’re everywhere.
His response was so passionate, clear, and detailed that is seems very unlikely that his statement that the "agency doesn't do this" is true. He relived the scenario as if he had personal experience. This is clearly something he has spent a ton of time thinking about, in the very least. He also seemed to know a ton about the case while also knowing nothing about it at all. His body language just screamed that something was off, at least to me. It was very weird to watch. Perhaps he is just uncomfortable as so many will assume he knows more, but the way he acted suggests he probably does.
I used to do prison work.....you dont put someone that important in a run down, un staffed, under equipped prison like that....especially when they are also on suicide watch.....
Well you don’t if you really want them to stay alive. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by anything Clinton does. The Clinton family are powerful psychopaths.
Suicide watch is supposed to be you alone in a turtle suit in a bare room. You get nothing. No sheets,no mattress just a concrete slab and you in a turtle suit.
You can be a doctor and not be a part of BIG PHARMA. Just like you can be in the CIA and not be the part of the group that involved in public misinformation.
@@Chyeahokay That's just not true. Here's the definition for you.. Conspiracy: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. It says nothing about not knowing "what really happened."
More like disgusting. Agree with something that may not be agreeable to the cause because lying about it just confirms dishonesty. Give that initial truth to establish honesty so your lies in the following narrative are hidden by the initial precedent of truth.
Just because he never got used as a boy toy, doesn't mean it's a tactic they don't use. And I am certain they use every tactic. It's the CIA.... Their mandate is basically "don't get caught".
I bet he really had a look alike killed in his place and that’s why they showed us the body. I bet the whole “he killed himself/he was really murdered” theory was the basic misleading conspiracy that was convincing enough for the masses to accept and stop searching for a deeper truth
Extremely irritating how CIA can talk endlessly and say nothing at all. So well trained.
Yes I honestly can't stand this guy he literally just fucking says nothing...
Ya. They're not worth listening to.
@@chadhaire1711 .... you really far off
@@kostaslemis9600 Oswald fired 3 shots and got 2 hits..fact....you are off Goober
@@chadhaire1711 okay you got me
When are they going to stop calling them "under-aged women" and start calling them children???
Exactly, why cannot they say children because they were children.
Puberty-stage adolescents are neither children nor adults.
Children represent individuals who have not yet reached puberty (pre-puberty individuals).
Adults are post-puberty individuals .
The term "underage-women" refers to the legal age of sexual consent as it relates all persons who have undergone puberty (sexual maturity).
Since the young women Epstein had sex with were not pre-puberty individuals, they cannot biologically be classified as children since children exist in a pre-puberty biological state.
With regards to the legal age of consent when it comes to the matter of sexual intercourse, the law on this matter differs from country to country.
Walther Bremen still fucked up regardless of country. They’re too innocent for the complicated parts of sex and cannot really consent.
@@zaneshark But people are Still calling underaged when Discussing Netflix Cuties
As soon as they stop calling 18yr + 19yr old teens adults. This country needs a morality audit in the worst way.
That man can give you a 3 hour lecture without telling you a single thing
"You know me, im not a conspiracy guy"
LITERAL CIA AGENT
CIA bloke is an expert at speaking while saying nothing at all
I notice the fuck out of that too every time hes on... he adds just a little bit of input or opinion just to agree then strays off the topic to guide the narrative away or to things.
Softnumnums yeah, good spycraft I guess
Agree, his whole game looks so deceitful
Is this the butthurt section
@@collin2502 ??????????????????????
There's no such thing, as a "former" CIA agent.
Once a company man...
@@pauliamsocool Twice a traitor.
Frank Castle well, the saying goes “once a company man, always a company man”. Even and especially among company men. But I get your point and totally agree. (Oh shit, the company has my name...)
Paul D Clifford well, you have a D in your name, so you might as well be a freedom fighter XD.
@@pauliamsocool fair and accurate sir. Apologies for the delay.
Stay alert my friends.
You gotta give it to Mike Baker. I bet he was a great case officer.
He instantly takes the other person's temperature on the issue. Then both agrees with them and matches their energy. He can makes witty quips very in line with the other person's opinions and comes across as very likeable.
And he does all of it without actually giving any information whatsoever.
It's pretty damn impressive.
Very effective interrogator/interviewer, I would presume
Thank you for your interesting podcasts, so grateful. We could all help move the needle on a topic to the benefit of all children and women around the world, and to resolve international crime💟
This should be called "Joe Rogan Breaks Down Jeffrey Epstein Case to Former CIA Agent Who Brings Nothing to the Table"
Mike Maolucci i get excited when i see this guy is on, and 5 minutes in i remember he never says a damn thing, except about his kids with dumbass names
He's probably limited on what he can even talk about
this guy never brings anything of substance to the table. fuck him
"im not a conspiracy guy" he doesnt believe jfk assassination theories, these theroies. fucken anything. fuck the cia and fuck this goof
That just means the whole interview is fake
"We don't do that, but other countries do." I rolled my eyes so hard at that, I self-induced a seizure.
I know right. Like we don't ALL know that the CIA (and any intelligence agency for that matter) would do whatever it takes to obtain the intel they want.
@@Thetruthiscosmic
He meant more like they dont rely on it as an effective measure.
I really dont think he even gives a shit about the morality of it.
Once an agent, always an agent. Dude aint breaking his oath, he knows what not to say, what would get him in a 'fatal car accident' or 'shot during a mugging' type shit.
Then proceed to explain exactly how you would do it. Right......
I mean you can kinda really fucking tell he's lying through his teeth. But can you blame him? He knows he'd end up dead.
The nature of the CIA is such that it has secrets within secrets. This man can say honestly that as far as he knows they don't do that..because he has never seen it done..but the overwhelming evidence has told us that in fact they do operate this way. Not to mention he is under lifetime contract to never divulge such information. So hey..great story and I still enjoy and appreciate his contribution here.
Yeah people always get so upset that he doesn’t come on the podcast and drop a bunch of groundbreaking secrets that we never knew about the CIA which is such a goofy thing to ever actually think to be possible. For one, some of the super serious shit if it in fact exists would still be well hidden in the organization and you wouldn’t be likely to even know anything about it if you weren’t an extremely high ranking officer in the org and probably would have to have some sort of need to know aspect on top of that. It seems like some people have it in their mind that you simply work there and suddenly you learn everything about all that’s happened or happening, even the most protected shit, by virtue of working there.
This dude was a field officer. He wasn’t working in the actual office and making all the plans. He was the dude carrying out the shit he was told to do by the office folks. But even if we ignore all of those things that very realistically could mean there are more covert shit he may have no clue about because he wasn’t at a level where he’d be the guy involved in it do people not realize he wouldn’t be allowed to talk about any of that shit? If the dude came on and spoke out about all the stuff people think he should he’d be arrested in a heartbeat for espionage etc etc. So the whining is so silly. The only merit I’d give the complaining is that if he can’t truly share anything maybe he shouldn’t be speaking long form on stuff he can’t truly be transparent about. But even so I enjoy what is there because I set the realistic expectations of what I’ll hear.
I've heard several retired CIA agents on podcasts explaining the things they do which were exactly the things this guy says they don't do.
I came into chat just say this but, you both said it better.
The compartmentalized nature of the agency can be the only answer why this guy could "honestly" say that the agency doesn't use honeypot techniques.
Read Whitney Webb’s book. Watch her interviews.
What’s that movie I think it’s called “The Good Shepherd” with Matt Damon Angelina Jolie Robert De Niro etc. showing the beginnings of the OSS and formation of the CIA and man the job sounds great and all but the way you have to live where you can’t trust anything anyone says no matter what and everyone’s always trying to stab you in the back
They show you what they want you to see. You hear only what they want you to hear.
It’s funny because everyone’s talking about this case and nothing’s being done about it...
@Crashie-J If Epstein is even dead.
Crashie-J i feel like he isnt dead tbh
John Kaitlyn it might take 10 years to figure out what really happened
We got no power to do anything unless we get together but what would we do
Exactly! The joke is on everyone. High level move from the elites.
"The CIA doesn't do that." Proceeds to describe exactly how the CIA does that.
"Let me explain you why we did that" Fauci...
you clown
Not really, he mentioned countries that would try to compromise a target and explains how it would be done.
They were working for the CIA, this is how the deep state does its bidding!
@@jon8004 They killed Mcafee too, I never said the CIA killed him, the Government did or some shadow entity that has their blessing. So this man gets a sweet heart plea deal and the Government at every level just let this shit happen while many utilized his services. We know the CIA does the most shadiest shit and compromising Americans and highly influential people globally is not beneath our Government intelligence. I literally just heard this guy break it down after claiming they don;t do it. They do it, all the time!
Tell me nothing while you pretend to tell me everything
cant believe this was 3 years ago and still media silence and avoidance
The most upsetting thing to me is it is 2 years since this video was made. And here we are. Nowhere and with no answer and justification for the victims. Money really does buy power.
Yes money is king. With money, you can bribe anyone. Anyone got a price. That is what my parents told me.
It's sickening
Money doesn’t buy power money is power and we already knew that Epstein was going to “kill himself” before they did it because of his connection to bill Clinton. And all we could do was make memes
Well, Epstien's dead, Bill and Andy have disappeared...not exactly a win but about all we can hope for.
and his sick ass associate got sentenced to 20 years today.
“No ones gonna get to the bottom of it” scariest thing about that whole case because everyone knows it’s true
He said that too real
@@meche1230 You may get to the bottom of it, but if you do, you'll be the only one and you'll never be seen again.
They’ll make a doc about it in 50-60 years
Truth always comes out andddd “cover ups will be there downfall”
@@meche1230 that was THE ONLY THING he did say with 100% Certainty & Confidence. Spooky. Guess that's why they're called Spooks.
An example of how to have fun even on a very touchy subject 🙂
This guy said a lot without actually saying anything. You can tell he is a real CIA guy.
Source: trust me bro
He did say that Epstein didn't kill himself so that's something good
Lol I do shit like that and I have no cia training lmao
@@yomama317 lol your parents are poor lmao
Are you a woman?
"Everyone else uses honeypots but we don't. Now here's how we would THEORETICALLY do a honeypot"
Lmao
He's right, we don't believe him lol
They use honey pots for pedos all the time
We don’t but the bad bad Russians sure do ... bruh
Baker is an obvious liar
Found it hilarious when Rogan said “yeah, you don’t a Kevin Spacey type strangling you, it would take forever..”
CIA acts seriously but it's actually loony tunes playing in their computers at the offices 😂
This guy knows exactly how everything went down.. he doesnt want to talk about this subject
An easy way to be a traitor is to do nothing when something can be done.
When the happymerchant.jpg are watching you must choose your words
@@UnseenThreat07 NO. Fuck em. Nothing will change if you keep silent.
How can you possibly know that
@@arcticdream4905 did notice that.
This guy clearly knows more than he is letting on.
Doubtful. He's an old spook; and not a good one if he's doing live podcasts.
I mean he worked for the cia
@2018 Vit do some googling my friend his background is there. It's not the same comparison as you saying you are an agent in a youtube comment
This guy is a bullshit artist
@2018 Vit get roasted. Boi.
Compartmentalization is key to secrecy. Iv worked on experimental aviation parts for government contracts only thing known was rumors and spec measurements
He was a hedge fund manager, insider information was very valuable to him. He became so proficient at blackmailing to obtain this information he spun off a blackmailing enterprise and together they provided him with huge leverage and annexed many high profile individuals who were caught in the web just by being associated with him.
He was never a “hedge fund manager.” He never had any legitimate financial business.
@@GriffonKeeper so where did all his wealth come from?
I suspect it came from the billionaires who he set up in very compromising situations and then blackmailed them. Les Wexner supposedly GAVE jim his multi-million dollar apt. In Manhattan. Who the hell does THAT? Blackmail.
I remember that interview with Bill Gates where they asked him about Epstein, and he just said something like "Well, he's dead now, so..." It sent chills down my spine.
Shhh... Bill and Elon are tracking you lol.
You're safe while Melinda and Maxwell remain alive
Shhhh lol
@@grimmertwin2148 sorry, you're right. wasn't thinking... lol. ssshhh...
@@grimmertwin2148 respectfully, they don’t care conspiracy theorists. They already pushed the narrative that conspiracy theorists are crazy and a few hundred thousand out of hundreds of millions of people questioning them isn’t that big of a deal to them
@@grimmertwin2148 9
100%... He's usually so calculated and thoughtful in what he says. But that just flew out unfiltered 🤣 and my jaw hit the f***ing floor. Before he said that, I'd had a slim bit of hope that he was just too awkwardly to notice the Pedo vibe. But no way. Dude was like pretty happy to see an "acquaintance" dead and toss that memory into the closet with his hard drives. Like BLECHHHH
It just ruined any good he's done by way of technology. And now he's buying up ridiculous amounts of farmers land. Bill Gates is scum to me.
"I'm not a conspiracy guy"
Says a former CIA Agent
You forgot the stipulation to the rule. jeffery epstin
Buck_shot419 stipulation?? Where did you learn your English
🤣🤣🤣
Ha! Yep!
No such thing as a "former CIA" agent.
imagine the afternoon he was getting strangled yelling for help and "nobody" heard anythng
“I’m not a conspiracy guy” spilled my drink when CIA guy says this
When you know which ones are real and which ones are fake you wouldn't call yourself a "theorist" hahaha
Joel Moran lol choked on my drink.
It's not a conspiracy if you helped make it true.
The term "conspiracy theory" was invented by the CIA in the 1970s They created it to undermine and discredit anyone who claimed the CIA was engaged in conspiratorial projects
Bill Barr was best friends with Epstein's father...a father who penned a sci-fi novel that was about colonizing a planet with a harram of underage girls...yup nothing to see here...smh
The fact that he had to “check in” to the jail for only 8hrs every day tells me all I need to know about the “justice” system.
The average number of hours in a day that people need to shower+sleep. Meaning that he could easily reorganize his life around "jail time" so that it basically becomes meaningless.
@@S4Daves Nope, it's not about race/racism, as much as the elite would like you to blindly believe (because then you're no threat to them).
It's much more ancient... and sinister
@@S4Daves I mean OJ Simpson was pretty pale, I agree with you on that.
@@maloxi1472 How do you know?
@@maloxi1472 tell me more.
Whitney Webb’s books and interviews are informative. 😱😳🤔😨
Theres no such thing as a FORMER CIA agent... look how he reacted to the "what was epstiens angle" question. He went "psh!" On impulse. 😅
"We lied, we cheated, we stole" - Ex-CIA director Mike Pompeo
This agent definitely knows whats going on. He plays the same game. They are trained to do so.
Want to know who else lied, cheated, and stole?
Eddie Guerrero
Agency doesn't do that...despite the FBI accusing them of exactly that in the documents on the Finder's Cult.
I commented the same thing . this guy is controlled opposition
LoL everyone does this. I dont care who you are, no one is clean. Youve stolen something - everyone just has this stupid excuse on why its not considered stealing. Thats what the common stereotypical bad guy is for - so we can see someone dirtier than us.
@@doomdude69 lots of people learn when they are very young children not to steal or fuck people over.
Boy he really wanted to talk about North Korea all of a sudden.
@John Mchanon
He didn't want to talk about Epstein, he tried changing the subject to North Korea.
Bobby Bush ... lmfao no he did not
Spooky
@@Gush27 lol he clearly did dude. What do you get out of denying that much?
Digital Minerva All I said was no he didn’t, and I get nothing, just stating what I saw. Like you.
I love how he says “we don’t use those tactics” and throws the “they won’t believe” me bull in front of it, then he proceeds to explain how the cia would do that exact thing to other countries😅😂🤦♂️ obviously guy was trained how to do it because it’s a tactic that gets used by everyone.
Dude Joes Bill Clinton impression kills me 😂😂😂
just gonna get this out there now ghisline maxwell didn’t kill herself
Naw she is going to die of COVID
Jizz Lane
Yup
Only a matter of time
@@sirpsychosexy jizz lean bro show some respect
Joe Rogan's Bill Clinton impression gets me every time
It's my favourite! 😆
You know married a wolf , you know you married a big ol wolf
@@JamieBordbar what do you mean man?
I routinely check CZcams to see if someone’s made a compilation as I’m too lazy
That’s because it’s spot on every time
Why does former CIA agent sounds so nervous though 😅
That guy knows something
The only true thing mike said was “no ones ever gonna get to the bottom of anything”
i got to the bottom of this bag of chips
No one wants to.
Until Lisa Hamilton Hamilton reality Tigard Oregon and her Sherwood Oregon pedo ring is investigated.start the search in Dillion Montana Beaverhead county
@@JasonTodd616 hell yeah brother
As shit I may add
This guy is definitely part of the problem. And he does so well at deflecting the questions. Must have very good training.
The have to walk the line.
yea he doesn’t wanna die
You are also part of the problem.
@@harold3165 how?
@@harold3165 there is a code to all of it. People have to learn the language and read between the lines.
This whole situation is an absolute outrage! Why did nothing become of this?
Ted is hilarious 😂 awesome guy and even better teammate! Already an all time fave Bengal of mine.
The NFL is rigged .
It's sooooooo
Obvious.
Grown people believing those games are real is so sad.
Sorry people “under-aged women” are children. This is sick.
LITTLE KIDS
@First Amendment your a child until your at least 11. One thing remains whether you want to argue that stupid point. They are still minors.
@@cringetic3431 it’s the same thing depending on what you classify ages as.
@@tythompson4794 under-aged women/men= teenager (13-17), children= children. either way its all the same in the end. both are illegal and saying underaged women instead of children has the same principle in meaning
@@cringetic3431 true. However, one thing remains undeniable. It’s still sick.
Let's have the CIA that's covering it up break down the case for us LOL
I think he says a lot of stuff, in a discreet way. Think this guy just gonna list all the classified information in the world? What do you think how fast he would.. get suicided
Big fat liar. No honeytraps? lol
People forget that the government workers will never expose the government unless they fully turn their back on them.. & with that is death but if everyone could hold one head & fight these high people.. we win.. robots can never be smarter & wiser than humans.
SW : LOL 🤣
🤣
The movie with Richard Pryor was Stir Crazy. Great movie
Laws are created to protect the innocent against evil. But when the evil becomes the lawmaker all is truly lost.
Joe “I’m going to tell you something after the show” Rogan
Oh MYGOD no idea.
They don’t care how obvious it looks that he didn’t kill himself, they just know that it’s near impossible to prove. And that’s all you need to get away with it.
If you killed him, they'd catch you.
Nothing to see here.
Cole S. Impossible to prove he’s actually dead too.
Absolutely!
That and some lazy diversity hire guards who are too busy surfing the internet to walk 15 feet and check if the highest profile prisoner in the world is still breathing.
“We don’t use honeypots” straight thru his teeth 😹
Joes little “shhhh” followed by the talking at the same volume 😂 he on Epstein list
This guy has mastered the art of telling you 100 ways "I don't know"
Playing save
He doesn't want to get suicided himself
@@itsrn4l817 thought the same if youre an insider maybe youre a lucky to be still alive
TheFloRyan123 fear of the uknown
CP3's Right Hamstring 😭
Good to see most of the comment section realise that this guy who worked for the government isn’t the best person to actually listen to much less believe anything he says
Who do you listen to then? Where do you get your information? And how do you trust it?
@Anton Chigurh Where did I say that? Calm down there buddy.
@Anton Chigurh No I didn't. Take some time off the internet there buddy. For your own sake yeah.
I enjoy this podcast because it goes to show and proof that a lot of the speculation, even conspiracies, are or can be true
@@user-xm6ro1ep5d Confirmation bias is essentially what you're describing. They talk about conspiracies, they don't prove them....
He is trying so hard to pretend he doesn't know also. Hands down
I love how everyone says, “I’m not a conspiracy theorist but…” If you don’t believe this entire world was built on conspiracy, then you’re ignorant or you’re lying! There are thousands of books out there by very credible investigative journalists, that should have put many people in prison for life! But those who pay the bills, call the shots! (Pun intended!)
CIA Guy: "No, the Agency doesn't do that. We don't do that. We don't try into coerce somebody into a relationship that we can take advantage of."
....
CIA Guy (30 sec later) : **explains very detailed, specific, and Western-sounding example of how to do exactly that**
Ok, guy.
If he gave “straight” answers he would be found in his home “hanging”.
@@IllyrianStrength "Alex"? we are all now "Alex"!!!
Never trust CIA
Are you saying the CIA paid this guy some cash and said "go in there and do damage control on this Epstein thing... because Joe keep his audience riled up." (Quiet him down he's got too many followers0 ?
It's called "suicide prevention."
There is no such thing as “former CIA”
i believe this
kinda like liars and cheaters. Once a cheater, always a cheater
@D Devil10 No, more like our fathers.
@@questioneverything4120 idk the liar and cheater one isnt nessisarly true. I was a massive cheater when I was younger, couldnt keep it in my pants. I havent cheated in so long now, the concept is revolting to me. And the woman I'm with I havent even came close to cheating on once. Depends on the person I guess
mike baker openly runs a "consultant" company with other ex spies. which obviously means the agency (and other powerful people internationally) probably goes to him when they need to go outside their walls. he may not be with them but he is with them if ya know what i mean
Gabriel Lukkes: The absence of desire to cheat in recent years, contrary to your past serial cheating, may have more of a physiological basis though (as in, changing libido or testosterone levels). I'm sure greater emotional maturity may also play a part, of course.
I love joe but that queen impression sounded more like Bill Gates 😅😂😂
May 2023 and we havent stopped asking and havent forgot.
If I could tell a lie for every time this man said "uhh", I could maybe be a CIA Agent one day
"The Russians do that yeah, the israelis do it too. But no, we Americans dont do that, of course not"
@rockn roll no he was not, not the segment im refering to
@@GusPD if he was sarcastic he sucks at it. it seems he is good at seeming to believe his own bullshit
My FBI agent says FBI>CIA....And no, the FBI is not responsible for 9/11 he says
Hit Man FBI=CIA
Epstein worked for Israeli Mossad and ran blackmail operations on politicians and celebrities...How do you think they got everyone to run with this bullshit covid narrative??? Bribery and blackmail
"the cia doesn't do honeypots"
proceeds to do an in-depth explanation of how honeypots work, and gives a well explained scenario.
its his way of telling us without actually saying it reallt does happen because he would be killed he was in the cia man he would be offed so quick
The CIA is well known to make use of honeypots. He's just outright lying. In the 40s and 50s they bugged restrooms in theaters to glean information, they've run brothels and recorded clients, and they were part of Jeffrey Epstein's scam. Epstein wasn't a billionaire, he was an agent probably for Mossad, Mi6, and the CIA.
Alex Acosta even said he Epstein was "intelligence" which is why he couldn't throw the book at him, and had to settle for a 3 year puff sentence.
@@richardwicks4190 You're cooked mate
@@davidmaitland3238 *"You're cooked mate"*
Why bother to say anything, when you've said nothing? WTF does "you're cooked mate" even mean? Especially in regard to what I've said?
A dumb response like that, could literally be applied to anything anybody has ever said. That is one of the most meaningless, pointless responses I've ever seen.
they r now illegal if they hurt tho #famafortunatis
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Look at him trying to change the subject every couple of minutes…
Thats a good Clin-ton impression.
You can tell CIA was a little uncomfortable talking about the topic of high profile pedophiles.
He immediately lied too, said the queen kicked Andrew to the curb over the allegations.. she still hasn’t and the royal family are as close to openly pedophiles as you can get in the western world
Wouldn’t trust this assholes opinion
Dave fuck uou False. Andrew is no longer involved with any royal affairs.
Ben Abbott oh here comes the Brits with their systemic pedophile defending culture... ABC had victims of Andrews ready to be interviewed 3 years ago and got pressured from the queen and other top royals according to the lead investigative journalist.. even right wing British tabloids admit that the queen is sticking by Andrew privately, so you can fuck off with the creepy pedophile defending... just because it’s sown into your culture at every single level doesn’t mean other people are as easily tricked
Bob Dance yeah it’s an open secret in England that the royal family are enormous pedos.. the defence that royalists have is that the law doesn’t apply to royals therefore it’s not pedophilia
Dave fuck uou the royal family is full of pedophiles the fuck you mean
'The agency doesn't do this'
15 Seconds later breaks down exactly how the agency does this 😂😂😂
hahahahhaha how specific was he with the "soccer team or Parent teacher committee". you know that's been done before
Joe Hogan
Thank you, knew I couldn’t have been the only one hearing him speak out of both sides of his shit eating mouth.
“Maybe our kids are on the same soccer team.”
Fucking manipulative pieces of shit. And it’s just normal everyday shit to them.
Joe Hogan
They’re the fios lady who’s excited to learn about your marijuana habits. They’re the other bowling coach that’s always interested in what you’re up to. They’re the customer that takes an extra interest in you and tries to lure you to their private homes where they ask questions about your life and how you feel about America. Once you wake up and see these narcs, you see they’re everywhere.
And gave it a perfect name of "honey potting "
His response was so passionate, clear, and detailed that is seems very unlikely that his statement that the "agency doesn't do this" is true. He relived the scenario as if he had personal experience. This is clearly something he has spent a ton of time thinking about, in the very least. He also seemed to know a ton about the case while also knowing nothing about it at all. His body language just screamed that something was off, at least to me. It was very weird to watch. Perhaps he is just uncomfortable as so many will assume he knows more, but the way he acted suggests he probably does.
"It's just one of those things" how many times can he say that lol
This guy was too careful with all his answers. Gave nothing away.
Nobody is talking about how Roe Jogan has NO ADS IN ANY OF HIS INTERVIEWS ... Bro
good guy Joe
@Yyhj Tyhnj that hes already rich... lol
Maybe because it’s not an interview but a Podcast!!! He promotes all of his sponsors at the beginning and end of every podcast.
Well, every podcast starts with 15 minutes of ads and ends with a few more.
Because it would make literally no money. It simply is not how he monetizes his show.
I used to do prison work.....you dont put someone that important in a run down, un staffed, under equipped prison like that....especially when they are also on suicide watch.....
Ya expect thats supposedly the best prison in New York they held al Chapo there
Well you don’t if you really want them to stay alive. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by anything Clinton does. The Clinton family are powerful psychopaths.
Look it up folks anytime NY is involved in a high profile case, guess what, nothing ever comes of it.
Important? To whom? Prosecutors? Or just in general because he was minted?
Suicide watch is supposed to be you alone in a turtle suit in a bare room. You get nothing. No sheets,no mattress just a concrete slab and you in a turtle suit.
I always have a gut reaction to Mike Baker that tells me not to believe anything he says.
Oh he's not joking about the whispering tactic. LMAO. That's amazing.
“Has the C.I.A ever done this before?”
“Man when’s the last time we talked about North Korea” lol
He's scared for himself cant talk
Google "the finders/ cia"
gotama420 wtf
@@kev6t9 you notice this company stooge gerts nervous here. those sobs do this and much worse
@@MrGOTAMA420 Holy hell. Sick, sick, sick stuff. The Vice story was great exposition.
There’s nothing like a “ former” CIA agent.
EXACTLY haha
Lol. Perfect comment- I thought the line is, “you never retire from the CIA.”
Dude was honey potting joe
Hes not a "agent" but a "officer". Agents are assets run by officers or groups to gain intel/data.
Come on now, if he wasn’t a known politician or businessman, ytf would the president be with him that much? 🤨
You can see how this guy is being too careful with his words. He's probably reatraining himself not to spill tye beans.
If Joe doesn’t mention a man looking like a Gorilla in a podcast something’s wrong.
hahaha
Joe looks in the mirror every day for reference materials
People eat them.
Damn, working for the CIA really aged Kevin Bacon.
Ha ,😄
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love you!
I thought it was David Foster at first.
Winner.
Lmfao perfect sounds just like him
Joe’s Impression of bill Clinton has me 😂😂😂
Guy that causes conspiracies to happen: "I'm not a conspiracy guy."
He calls them assignments, not conspiracies.
Only a conspiracy when you don’t know what really happened
You can be a doctor and not be a part of BIG PHARMA. Just like you can be in the CIA and not be the part of the group that involved in public misinformation.
Nelson Hoffman True. Some of them are involved in destabilizing and maintaining instability in foreign countries instead.
@@Chyeahokay That's just not true. Here's the definition for you.. Conspiracy: a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. It says nothing about not knowing "what really happened."
The CIA doesn't use honeytraps" - I call BS.
they don't "officially", they contract out the ops
They probably don't tbh. They use the Mossad for that.
They practically honeypot themselves these days
Who needs Honey Traps when you have the entire worlds Internet History on file lol
Yet he knew an awful lot about it 🤔
Prince Andrew didn't get the nickname Randy Andy for nothing. I hope they catch all of the creeps that were involved in this.
I cant help myself from looking at Joe’s headphones being crooked for 13 minutes
It’s oddly satisfying to see that this “Ex” CIA agent doesn’t believe he killed himself.
What a shill
Probably did it himself
@@randomchannel4886 LoL
More like disgusting. Agree with something that may not be agreeable to the cause because lying about it just confirms dishonesty. Give that initial truth to establish honesty so your lies in the following narrative are hidden by the initial precedent of truth.
Maybe hes alive. And thier just feeding us the false narrative
The Queen did not kick Andrew the curb, he is her favourite child. She was angry he got caught but he has not been cut off.
Since his brain was already cut off, whats your point, brave sire?
@Elite Soulfly she just kicked Harry and Megan out of the family for being insufferable progressives. Andrew is way worse but gets a pass.....why?
No, shit... She would have known about this for years..
Flake452 no
The Royal family organised the hit or put enough pressure on the US Gov to make it happen . No way would they let the truth of Pedo Andrew come out.
The fact that still nothing is done about this...
All these years and NONE of those girls have come forward to say they were one of those who were abused?? Weird
A former CIA agent says he doesn't know about honeypots, then goes even further and claims CIA never uses this method of entrapment. Seriously?
🤣🤣🤣 he's not trying to get killed over a silly Joe rogan interview
Just because he never got used as a boy toy, doesn't mean it's a tactic they don't use. And I am certain they use every tactic. It's the CIA.... Their mandate is basically "don't get caught".
It’s true. Pretty sure that’s an FBI thing.
@@TheRealAdam23 the CIA would definitely black mail diplomats and foreign nationals
@@booqrdoit9138 okay but that has absolutely nothing to do with honeypots, which was the original comment
THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: there is no such thing as an "ex" cia agent.
They just become free lance agents
There is
I bet he really had a look alike killed in his place and that’s why they showed us the body. I bet the whole “he killed himself/he was really murdered” theory was the basic misleading conspiracy that was convincing enough for the masses to accept and stop searching for a deeper truth
They can’t talk about classified info …. That’s a federal crime
@AWPgod he worked for the NSA just as a computer intelligence agent
The NORK’s whispering on the phone made me spit out my coffee.
It’s absolutely disheartening that he isn’t sad about the murder of his coworkers and instead talking in circles.
"you know what I did in the CIA Joe?, I taught a class on how to talk for hours with no actual point or facts"
Engage but say nothing!
Thank you! Lol. I was thinking this exact thing!!
My thoughts exactly. Nothing shattering here.
Thanks for the spoiler lol.
Joe’s impression of Prince Andrew is hilarious.
“She don’t look 18, she looks 16. Are you sure? Are you sure?” Lmao
@@jasonpage8600 not legal if she was trafficked
@@Shelly-lz9tm but it wasn't trafficking.
You’re easily amused.
@@jasonpage8600 If its trafficking, the age doesnt "matter"....
she consented to whore herself for rich men.
Lots of 'maybes'...'who knows' 'good question'...only time he talks freely is when he explains how to test a subject for compliance.
What episode is this
6:30 Agent starts to admit manipulation of headlines, then catches himself...
Good catch.
More info?
@@rene-richardkrause468 the CIA controls the headlines in the MSM
Every time Joe gets someone important on, he clean shaves his head and face.
👨🦲
in order to have the most spotless and smooth interview ever
LMFAO
Nah that’s not why lol, He was doing his commentary for the UFC this weekend. Anytime there’s a big ufc & he’s on it he’ll shave.
The Husky Jerk You could be right.