Gojo actually just adopted Megumi cause as he said in s1, he realised that he can’t fix the Jujutsu system by himself so he’s fostering stronger allies. It isn’t a get back at toji, he cares for all of his students. Gojo ain’t evil or anything like that
i think Geto's motivation is less about humans having power and more that a lot of humans are terrible people, like the people clapping for Riko's death. He doesn't want to keep eating curses and watch his friends die for people who don't deserve it. Especially since they're the cause of all their problems with curses.
Gojo didn't say that Tsumiki would be unhappy in the Zenin clan to manipulate him, thats just straight facts. They hate women and non-sorcerers. Gojo was doing him a good deed by stepping in. Also I think Danny's interpretation of Gojo hating Megumi is interesting but the scene in the manga where Gojo wakes up and smiles at Megumi with a heart in the speech bubble makes me thinks thats not the case at all, even if recent events could be interpreted that way lol
The thing yall missed about Geto's motivation: Yuki explained to him that non-sorcerers are the only one who create Cursed Spirits since they cant control their Cursed Energy. So as a Jujutsu Sorcerer your job is to risk your life fighting Curses to protect the people that are creating the Curses in the first place; you can see how someone could take issue with that. That's then compounded with the two little girls: The Cursed Spirits in their town they were able to see were created from the negative emotions from the towns people both in general & specifically towards the girls, but they were persecuting them for it. Even once Geto took care of the initial threat their hatred would just contiue to spawn more Curses, so he killed them all. Problem solved.
Yeah I agree that if their analysis of Yuki and Geto's conversation went a little deeper they would pick up those things. I watched it twice and payed a lot more attention to the conversation the second time around and found what you found. I think that Nick and Danny are really focusing on the change in direction, such as the cinematic elements, and forgetting that sometimes you just gotta listen real good lol
I mean if you're a complete shit head narcissist who doesn't care about people, yeah I can definately see people taking issue with that. But it isn't their fault AT ALL that they havent dedicated their lives to learn to fight cursed spirits. Most of them are born unable to fight them. These are people that mostly love fighting anyways. Also there are plenty of thingd that this society provides for him. Why should that bother him at all? I doubt that guy even paid taxes.
In the shower scene and the rain scene is not just the sound of falling water, if you listen closely it's also the clapping sounds of the people who killed riko (which is also in the op) edited for typo
@@MattRuthlessI think it's because they most likely only watched it once. They're discussing their first watch and not trying to do a deep dive immediately, especially Danny. I expect Nick to have some different inputs in future breakdowns and such. They are anime buffs, that doesn't mean that they are responsible for understanding every bit of an anime
@@MattRuthless yeah of course lol this is their podcast. It's a podcast discussing anime. Nowhere in it do they claim they do a detailed breakdown of every new anime episode that they watch, this is actually the first time, as far as I can remember, that they even do these deepish dives into every anime epispde of a show. I think that it's really cool that underneath in the comments a lot of people are discussing their perceptions and things that they found in the anime, but if you're mad you didn't hear a thorough breakdown scene by scene I think it would be easier to go watch an episode review :) no hate I just don't understand why they can't come on their own podcast and discuss their own opinions lol
In JJK I find the Megumi and Gojo scene funny because Gojo is trying to mess with Megumi and creep him out but Megumi’s too smart for his age. I love their relationship because Gojo is the adult but acts like a child and Megumi’s the child but acts like the adult. I don’t think Gojo hates Megumi in any way he just likes to mess with him and he just wants Megumi to grow up be strong jujutsu sorcerer.
Yeah I really don't think his personality strayed far from how he acted in the beginning of the arc. The faces he made and the way he spoke just came off like his usual goofy and cocky self. The only thing I can say changed was that one aspect where he DID get serious
Anyone else think when Gojo ask Geto should we kill them all it was like Gojo trusting the future of his morality to Geto I kinda got that vibe from that scene
I think it was supposed to convey that as well. The whole arc was each character kind of flipping their motivations and in those last two episodes, both of them were on the tipping scale. I'm sure if geto made his mind up in that moment that gojo would at least consider doing it.
One of the things that I've loved about the adaption of JJK is the sound design and how much it conveys. When Geto was in the shower he was remembering the image of the people in the star plasma association smiling and clapping about Amanai's death and the sound of the water ends up sounding exactly like their clapping like he's reliving that moment as he wrestles with protecting non-sorcerers. Then when he's with Yuki and she's talking about the options of killing all non sorcerers the rain starts and the water again sounds like clapping calling back to that scene. In fact, you end up hearing that sound of the rain before you see it so it was a little unclear if the sound was him remembering the clapping or if it was raining. I love when adaptations use the new medium to deliver on the story in ways the previous medium couldn't and you can do things with sound in a show that you just can on paper.
I think his conflict with gojos power is that Gojo was born with techniques that he simply has to unlock, while Geto had to BUILD through suffering his special grade status. And I think that’s why he had to also grasp hard onto a principle for doing this, for being the only one in his family who has this powers, for being scouted. Gojo was already there, he was already a clan member, he grew up in there, he never really had to find a motive… until Geto defected, that is. And Geto changed his whole perspective because, unlike Gojo, he wasn’t really challenged in his power during the toji event cause of Gojo had been beaten he knew already that toji was a menace. Geto was challenged in his view of humanity: they were the weak ones being haunted unjustly by entities they didn’t even know they created. But then he saw WHY he created them: their evil and vile and abusive nature, and he also has to swallow that nature, he TASTES humanity’s disgust. That’s why he keeps bringing it up: it’s not even about the curses, he is like “do you know how horrible the disgusting nature of humanity tastes like?”. No one else knows, but me. And tbh seeing how Mahito is, representing how disgusting humanity is… Geto was somewhat on point. The whole point is that society is so messed up that humans leak this stuff, ridding the world of this stuff would make everyone’s life easier. However he now has resentment, that then transforms into hatred cause it’s human. Put yourself in his shoes, seeing what he saw from people, being traumatised by it, tasting their disgust everyday, having to do that out of a duty of protecting people like this? It’s truly human to develop his hatred from them. Then he also sees his fellow sorcerers die, loose their lives, be traumatised, he sees people abusing CHILDREN, innocent children accusing them of horrible things cause they had jujutsu powers… come on, his hatred is completely comprehensible. I can see how he justified himself in his purpose. Before meeting yuki he ALREADY wanted to kill them. He is the one who came up with that idea. But he was resisting that urge, cause he’s not a psycho who would just go out to kill out of revenge like that. He truly was trying to hold his disgust and anger back. But then yuki gave him a noble cause to do so. THATS when he moved. I’m not killing them just out of anger, but I’m also justified cause I want to rid the world of curses and eliminating you people is the way to do so. I’m not saying killing and genocide is right at all. But in the jjk verse and his circumstances I completely understand him.
@@MattRuthless Sub is so easy to read but Americans read like grade 1 students lol. If you are an adult and cant read and watch at the same time, maybe its time to go back to kindergarten.
The more I hear Nick talk about Geto the more I sympathize with him like I don't agree with him but I understand why he feels and does what he does, you know
12:10 No, you were right the first time, Nick. It was an episode centered around Porygon, but the flashing lights were from Pikachu Thunderbolt-ing a missile. Porygon was completely innocent!
Did they notice the rain sounded a lot like the clapping of the cult and the timing of it each time is like the exact moments he’s contemplating going off the path he’s currently on. The two moments are the shower scene and when Yuki say she’s not crazy to go that far yet. It’s really great sound direction by Mappa
Like nooo Way people think Gojo and makima is the same??? Gojo actually loves his students and cares for them, even people in the universe realize that gojo favors megumi. Makima is just plain evil and gojo is not.
Gojo isn't telling Megumi that no one will keep an eye on Tsumiki, he's responding to Megumi when he asks if Tsumiki will be happy if they went to the Zen'in clan. To which Gojo says she wont be, so Megumi says he'll go to the academy. Also if Gojo is on his power trip and is only raising Megumi as a get back, why would he ever care about his other students like Yuji and Nobara the same way?? I just think he gave Megumi the option to ask him about Toji just because a kid deserves to know what happened to his father lol. One last point for the Manga readers so spoilers... . . . . . . . . . If Gojo hates Megumi why would he be so shocked when he realized that it was Megumi's soul that was taking the toll of his infinite void? He just understands whats at stake here and cant let sukuna run rampant just because he's in Megumi's body. Though I'm sure Megumi resembling Toji helps him not pull his punches like he said at the start of the fight lmao
One thing that they didn’t touch on that I really loved in jujutsu kaisen was when geto was beating the breaks off of that old man he had mentioned that he knew what he was going to do because desperate people go for the easiest path towards victory. Later on geto’s talking with yuki and she mentions that the easiest option would be to eradicate humans but she didn’t have the heart for it and that’s the only idea geto actually considered and later on pursued. So I love the fact that the show shows how desperate he was to find himself and solve the issues going on within himself
I mean this respectfully, as someone who hasn’t read the manga and just watched the anime, I wasn’t confused at all? Danny I think you should maybe rewatch the episode. They do a better job conveying Geto’s mindset than you give them credit for. All love tho
I feel like not enough people are acknowledging the mimiko and nanako scene. Nick is the first one I've seen bring it up to someone not understanding, and it's just blowing my mind that it's not getting brought up.
This is my understanding of Geto’s reasoning for his hatred of humans as an anime only watcher: Geto in my opinion is very similar to Shinobu Sensui of Yu Yu Hakusho. His principle was survival of the weakest and he will accomplish that by being the strongest with Gojo. His hatred of humans came from seeing the ugliness of humanity and his principle being dismantled completely. Survival of the weakest in his view was the weak (non Jujutsu sorcerers) should be protected by the strong (Jujutsu sorcerers) and as one of the strongest it’s his responsibility to uphold that belief. I’ll show how each part got dismantled in this arc. The strong & their responsibility: Geto’s principle is built off the foundation that he and Gojo are both the strongest. Being the strongest meant that it’s his and Gojo’s responsibility to uphold the role of that title. When Toji killed Amanai, Gojo, and potentially the maid then beat him it cracked the title he gave both Gojo and himself. Not only was they not the strongest, but they couldn’t protect the weak. When he know that Gojo is the strongest with no equal is when his role and title was stripped from him. Geto no longer had the role as the strongest to carry out his principle anymore. Protection of the weak: Toji, Amanai, and the cult followers are to blame for this portion of his principles crumbling. Amanai’s death showed him that he’s not strong enough to actually carry out his principle. If he was the strongest then she would be alive is what his principle basically implies that’s what he believes. Toji is a non Jujutsu sorcerer, who in Geto’s principle, would be the weak, yet he’s the one who stripped him of being the strongest and prevented him of protecting the weak. Geto’s principle is idealized and doesn’t factor in the dark sides of humanity. The cult followers toppled Geto’s purpose of protecting the weak. The followers were weak people who his principle is built to protect, yet here they were celebrating the death of another weak person he failed to save. If weak celebrate and go out their way for the death of the weak then why do they deserve protection? Geto couldn’t find a suitable answer at the time and fell back to repeating his duties with less conviction than before. The village was ultimately the breaking point, but the cult is what made him lose faith in humanity. It also didn’t help that an out of it Gojo said “should we kill them all” and “do we need a reason”. Those were not the words he needed to hear at the time. Geto reminds me of a more reasonable Shinobu Sensui. Both had pure and idealized principles where things were black and white. Them being strong made them not have to have their principles challenged early. Both ran into the ugliness of the world and abandoned their principles. The difference is that Shinobu immediately sided on eliminating all of humanity without exception while Geto only had that view for non sorcerers and still looked at Jujutsu sorcerers positively based on his conversation with Gojo at the end of JJK0. Overall, his hatred is because he saw a group of non sorcerers pay a strong non sorcerer to kill a weak non sorcerer and celebrate it like it was the best thing ever at a young age. Add on top he didn’t get any help with the trauma and left for a year unaddressed as he tried to stay the path until he couldn’t handle it anymore with that village beating and locking up those kids blaming curses when he knows for a fact curses weren’t involved. It doesn’t have to do with him executing and absorbing curses. That line being repeated to me is the series indirectly saying since the Amanai mission he felt as if his life is on repeat doing those two things and every time he’s thinking about what happened that day and saying what’s the purpose of it. Why am I absorbing these disgusting curses for the protection of the weak when the weak don’t deserve protecting. Those two things are constant reminders of the purpose of his now shattered beliefs.
I interpreted Geto’s hatred for non-sorcerers less as them being powerful and oppressing sorcerers and more about them just being not worth all the pain and suffering of sorcerers. They’re not defenseless angels as shown with Toji being a weapon hired by the star religious group. He has to go through the revolting cycle of consuming curses repeatedly and good people like Haibara end up dying all in service of protecting them. The same people who had Riko, an innocent middle school girl killed. The same people who locked up and abused two little girls. On top of all this, it’s revealed to him the non-sorcerers are the cause of cursed spirits, the ones who he has to consume, the ones who kill good people like Haibara. Sorcerers suffer in silence fighting against a threat, the creation of which they are not culpable for.
I think his motivation is quite well built from the aftercredits scene with the glapping where Gojo asks if they should kill them all in a very non-chalant I don't care either way way and Gojo replies "well of course not" very sure of himself in that moment. But then seeing the burden put on himself and Gojo as Gojo is now strong so they both are doing missions alone - especially Gojo. He continually flashes back to the scene with ppl clapping and almost asks himself why they're working so hard to protect the weak when the weak masses can be ignorant fools who enabled bad things to happen to riko out of sheer ignorance, just as they are ignorant to the curses they cause to manifest from their negative emotions/bad actions. He has an entire crisis around why his whole drive/motivation has been to protect the weak masses, when the weak masses enable bad things to happen in the "real world" out of ignorance, just as they are ignorant to cursed spirits they cause to appear
Memory unlocked! I watched wolfs rain years ago and completely forgot it existed. Maybe it’s time for a rewatch, I remember really liking it but being iffy on the ending
Justice for Porygon!! Pikachu actually caused the explosion that resulted in the seizures of all those kids but because he's the mascot, Porygon and it's evolutions got blamed and were blacklisted from the Anime ever since
48:00 OKAY DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THE SOUND DESIGN IN THAT SCENE WITH GETO AND YUKI BY THE VENDING MACHINES THOUGH?? Nick, you pointed out that it keeps cutting to the blurry images of those men clapping over Riko's dead body, but for almost that ENTIRE scene, where Yuki and Geto are talking about whether or not Geto wants to protect non-curse users anymore, *you can still hear their applause in the background.* the first time i watched it I thought that it was the sound of just intense rain since it was storming in that scene, but if you listen, near the end of the scene the applause dies away and you can hear normal rain-sounds. i'm not a manga reader, so i don't know how it was conveyed in the text, but i thought the choice to have that horrible applause in the background of that scene for minutes straight was genius. all of the confusion/issues that i had (same as Danny, not understand why Geto's motivation shifted so suddenly, assuming it was the shit-rag stuff) were immediately nullified because that clapping made me understand. the horror of those people laughing and clapping over the corpse of a girl that he had been trying to protect seemed to break something in him. Geto told Gojo that he couldn't kill that group because they were just common followers, not the higher-ups who actually paid for Toji to kill her, but i think those people began to represent humanity (non-curse users) for Geto. it wasn't just those applauding people that had to pay for their actions, it was all of humanity.
a lot of ppl think like that unfortunately... if anything what makes gojo interesting as an OP character is his humanity, his vulnerable side. him acting unhinged and looking psychotic when he fights doesn't suddenly make him an evil character. heck, even his students look unhinged when fighting. like gojo said "you have to be a little crazy to be a jujutsu sorcerer".
The moment I hear someone say Gojo has a god-complex I’m no longer listening. No wonder Danny hates season one, he doesn’t understand the characters at all.
Ive been reading the manga since chapter 4 was released. I personally think that the anime keeps the tone of the manga very consistent. NC is right about each arc having a very distinct tone in itself. The tone of the exchange event feels intense, but also very light-hearted. Thats juxtaposed to the very uneasy and anxiety filled tone of the Vs. Mahito arc. The anime does a good job at shifting the tone based on the particular vibe that Gege wanted you to feel at any given point. That said, I do think that Danny would really enjoy the tone of the manga if the tone of the most recent arc is what he preferred. The current arc os specifically right up his ally 😬
1:30:26 gosh Wolfs Rain was such a good anime. It was so dramatic and somber I loved it so much. Danny so doesn’t explain it well tho 😂. To be fair it’s kinda confusing and I still don’t get parts of it. The wolves are thought to be extinct because they stopped showing themselves to humans as a survival tactic cause they kept getting hunted down. Most normal humans think they are extinct cause they really almost are, the only ones who believe they are still around are the ones still hunting wolves. And the wolves don’t really turn into humans they just gain something like a human illusion to hide themselves. You can see it when the wolves try to use their ‘human hands’ to grab something but end up using their wolf fangs instead, cause they don’t actually have hands to grab something and hold on so they bite it instead. The human body isn’t physically there which is why the jump back and forth between wolf and human so quickly and so often, it really almost is just a metaphor for the wolves. All the animals around them react to them like they are wolves too cause they don’t see the human illusion. Which leads to some funny interactions. I’m not going to get into the plot or anything cause ya know *spoilers* but Nick should definitely watch it. It’s absolutely one of the best anime I watched as a kid. I’m gunna go watch it now actually. Thanks for this trip down memory lane and awesome episode!
not liking the hot dog captain in bleach in human form is one of the hottest takes ive ever heard on the internet its like my brain got flashbanged also I havent seen wolfs reign in a while but I swear the reason its cool is the whole perspective is from a group of wolves but when the wolves are talking to eachother they look like humans to eachother
Okay was I the only one that thought when the rain and the shower water morphed into clapping. Showing that geto was just replaying the clapping in his head over and over and thats all he heard. I might be stretching but I love the thought.
the discussion on gojo here was almost bizarre i feel like we're not even watching the same show. gojo's (and the responsible adults eg nanami's) motivation comes from protecting and nurturing the youth to grow strong and make a better jujutsu society to avoid more getos and haibaras. toji tells gojo that his son will be sold off to the zenin clan, who would treat him like a weapon for their own gains, and ignore his older sister at best but probs treat her like crap, because they don't like non-sorcerers. gojo protects them, and he does the same with yuta and yuji. the message of jjk is that despite how powerful and talented people may be, they are ultimately human, and particularly the innocent children should be protected. gojo can be unhinged and power trippy for sure, but his character revolves around the one true connection he had and how circumstances ripped them apart, and now he doesnt let anyone ever get close to him (there's literally infinity between him and everyone else), but he doesn't want that to happen to anyone else. geto and gojo take opposing lessons from the hidden inventory experience, but both in service of protecting people.
48:14 well, Toji is in a certain way a curse spirit. the only difference is, that where normal curse spirits like Mahito are created by the normal world, it was the Jujutsu world that created Toji
Been listening to the podcast for the past couple weeks after starting from the beginning and just now realized that I've seen Danny's content before. I saw a lot of hardest punches in anime and never put 2 and 2 together until it was brought up.
wow, I think you guys completely misunderstood the scene between gojo and megumi or perhaps the translation was shit. Does gojo have a god complex? Yes, does he have hatered for megumi? I totally disagree. The very end of the episode basically shows that this season was essentially him reliving the past and mourning the loss of a friend but what he ends up getting out of it is being able to usher in a new generation and allow them the space to grow and make decisions how they wish in contrary to what he, geto, and shoko dealt with. Gojo takes Geto's original philosophy to heart and shows from here on out. Not sure how you got that he has some sort of grudge towards megumi.
47:30 The thing here is that Geto's motive should have then been the Star Religious group and not the humanity, this just makes its seem like its driven by plot to just have a "villian" for the sake of it.
Every time I get somewhere in these podcasts I’m stricken with “THE NEED TO GO READ!” And as a person that can read well I’d say I read but I lied I can’t read.
I got seizures from head trauma from mma around 21 years old and outgrew them (copious amounts of weed, mushrooms for neurogenesis, nootropics, and peptides bpc-157+tb+500) I am officially tougher than seizures. Thanks for recognizing me, Nick.
28:00 so some animes that did get remade was Ushio to Tora, Urusei Yatsura, Sailor Moon, Fruit Basket, Dororo, Casshern, Gegege no Kintaro, Devilman, Captain Tsubasa, Fate: Stay/Night, Ghost in the Shell keeps getting remade too
Does anyone else like rewatching Hunter x Hunter? I feel like it’s one of the few shows that I can just play in the background. The English dub is great so I can listen while I cook/wash dishes. Also the arcs are so separate that I don’t feel like I have to rewatch the whole show when I want to play it in the background. I can watch just Heaven’s Arena or Greed Island without having to remember every detail of the previous arcs. While I rewatch HxH in its entirety like twice a year, I’ve easily rewatched individual arcs like Greed Island (fav to rewatch) four to five times a year. It’s a little wild when I think about how many eps I’ve rewatched and how many hours of my life that equates to - but I’m usually multitasking so it’s not time wasted. (Chimera Ant Arc is my favorite arc, but way too deep/emotional/complex to casually rewatch.)
It's a remastered version you can tell They quite literally went back through the lines and made a clean version of it. For kids is basically the 4 kids version, but not from 4 kids.
I think Geto's spririling is more on the sense of the injustice of it all. Why must jujutsu sorcerers sacriface themselves to save humans from curses they didn’t create (as Yuki explained, sorcerers don't create curses). On top of it all, humans killed Riko. Humans tortured two little girls with cursed technoques. So basically you’re expected to die horribly, like Haibara, to save people that not only create the problem but also are terrible to you and your friends. It's an awful world and Geto just has to swallow it down, like he swallows bitter curses. Another thing is that Gojo was becoming the strongest, and therefore very self absorved as well and more distant from Geto powelevel wise, so Geto was feeling isolated and alone. His decent into hating humanity is a process, not revenge. It would be if he had killed the people ate the cult, but he didn’t, and he told Gojo not to do it because according to the moral of protecting the weak, they were just humans who didn’t know better (even if that haunted him afterwatds, you can hear the clapping sounds in the shower scene). It takes a year of Geto doubting and questioning his morals and motivations for him to snap and murder the village. Him and Gojo realize that the Jujutsu world is messed up. But Geto thinks it's best to "defend" sorcerers by creating a world without curses while Gojo tries to chance de Jujutsu structure trough education. As for the Zen'in family, in the first season they explain that they are horrible, especially to women (Maki and Mai are examples). And non sorceres are not valiable to them, so Tsumiki, a non sorcerer girl would be mistreated. I think it's also narratively beatiful that Geto didn’t hate Gojo. He was also thinking about him: Gojo was also going to suffer fighting curses relentlessly and being held responsible for the 'saving' everyone, as he became the strongest. Granted, his plan was mass murder, so debatable. But in the end they were just different and both wanted what they thought was best for the other. Gojo clearly feels guilty for not realizing Geto's suffering and not being able to prevent it. He’s the strongest yet he couldn’t save his best friend. At the final scene there is this little detail that his eyes are puffy when he lifts the blindfold. He was crying while remembering their highschool days. 🥲🥺😭😖😣
Dragon Ball Kai was not popular in Japan, but was huge overseas. It was probably because the manga is way bigger than the adaptation, so hardcore fans were satisfied with the manga, but the west is somehow foreign to the idea that a manga can be the definitive version of the story.
The JJK anime definitely implies that Geto thinks humans are the ones in power and treat sorcerers like shit even though they are the ones protecting them
Honestly I think the Makima and Gojo comparison is pretty interesting. They definitely aren’t the same but I think there are similarities between them that are worth exploring especially in the way that each of them relate to humanity. Don’t get me wrong Gojo has a genuine care for those around him (he always has even as far back as hidden inventory) and the farthest he’s ever gone is apathy. On the other Makima doesn’t care. Though I don’t know if I’d call her evil as much as I’d call her amoral.
I wonder what Nick will think about Brulee’s power Mirror-Mirror fruit when he gets to Whole Cake Island. I thought it was such an awesome idea that had a lot of potential (but was underutilized, which I get because Brulee wasn’t main character material). It can easily turn into a prison for anyone left in there (as long as they don’t catch the user of power). I saw someone on Reddit mention how you could easily trap one of the four emperors in there and they’d be helpless. No food, no way to get out, they’d just perish. While I think that devil fruit is awesome, I do have a soft spot for any power that involves dimensions/spaces. For example I also like Knov’s ability in HxH.
gojo is not evil and psychotic and he does not have a god complex. i can understand why it might seem that way after seeing his "honored one" moment where was looking a bit manic and unhinged after coming back from a near death experience but he is nothing like makima. if anything, it's precisely his humanity that makes him an interesting character because as powerful as he is and as heartless he may seem, he has a vulnerable side to him. the way he behaves sometimes might seem like he just doesn't care about anything or anyone but that's because of his power, the way he sees and perceives the world is completely different than most regular sorcerers. they can't understand him and he can't understand them to a certain extent... however his choice to raise megumi and the next generation of sorcerers comes from nothing but his want to protect the youth and to raise a generation of strong sorcerers that can one day make the jujutsu society better, he wants the next generation to be able to surpass him and someone with a god complex would never want that. he says himself in s1 that he hates the way the jujutsu society works and he could easily kill the old heads and reset it but that wouldn't bring evolution, that's why he chose education in order to raise strong and reliable allies that he can pass on his beliefs to. it's true that he looks a bit crazy when he has a bit of a challenge in terms of fights, but that doesn't make him evil. he just kind of gets high on power but he's ultimately a good person and if anything you could say he's "morally grey", but not evil. after the tragic events that occurred in his youth he makes the decision to take in megumi and raise him and that's when he chooses the "good path" instead of the evil path geto took. his and geto's philosophies switched by the end of the arc. in the beginning geto was the one that believed in protecting non-sorcerers and gojo didn't understand why he had to protect them and by the end geto starts hating non-sorcerers and protecting sorcerers instead and gojo starts protecting non-sorcerers and the young generation of sorcerers. gege's way of storytelling is not very "in your face", he doesn't always tells you everything and leaves a lot of things up to interpretation using visual storytelling and symbolism instead so i can understand why some people may get confused or not get everything but if you take some time to re-watch the episodes (or read the manga) and pay attention to the dialogue and the visual details, there's a lot that can be interpreted about both characters and their beliefs.
It’s so funny to see Danny back up wolfs rain but not know that season one of SAO is about to knock him out the water. BTW DANNY THERES AN ABRIDGED VERSION OF SAO if you wanna see that it’s hilarious
its funny hearing danny talk about gojo and makima when all over pinterest while looking for tattoo ideas for seperate tattoos of gojo and makima i found so much fan art of them together and it made me click and go oh shit they are kind of similar (not up to date on chainsawman)
It just need to be pointed out that Gojo is high from the moment he gains the power of the 6 eyes. The euphoria he experiences is reminiscent of an acid trip and it never goes away.
Hi Guys so I know that the episode really had nothing to do with this but if there is a way Nick can make a video on everyone who was a Captain in bleach and maybe their abilities that would be great. Vice capts are great too. I am watching TyBW arc and omg idk half of the capts bc the last I saw of bleach was the Arrconcar arc. Thank you both for everything you do and Danny I have wig arms too and my wife loves it. You are loved too❤
Oh hell yeah, I hope I get to meet you at Anime NYC. First anime expo. Thinking about doing a Law from One Piece cosplay (even tho I haven’t gotten to him yet in the show 🤣)
Omfg. I LOVE DANCE GAVIN DANCE 1:51:32 Nick I think we just became best friends wtf bro! I didn't think I would ever be marking "Nick is a DGD fan" off my bingo card wow! This is legitimately the most mind blowing thing you've ever said on this podcast, and I just listened to you try to defend wanting to bang Minks LMAOOO pls tell me what your fave album is and who your fave of the 3 vocalists are 🎉 You going to Swanfest in October? 👀
Gojo actually just adopted Megumi cause as he said in s1, he realised that he can’t fix the Jujutsu system by himself so he’s fostering stronger allies.
It isn’t a get back at toji, he cares for all of his students.
Gojo ain’t evil or anything like that
Precisely. Calling Gojo and Makima similar on anything below very, very surface level is ridiculous.
Then why did he stab Megumi
The fuck he aint! Hes a violent sociopath
@@kelvinmaldonado5177 ?
@@kelvinmaldonado5177when? He has never touched Megumi that way lol, he loves him like a son
i think Geto's motivation is less about humans having power and more that a lot of humans are terrible people, like the people clapping for Riko's death. He doesn't want to keep eating curses and watch his friends die for people who don't deserve it. Especially since they're the cause of all their problems with curses.
he has the magneto logic in the jjk world
Exactly. Humans are literally the reason why his friends die and they don't even care
Gojo didn't say that Tsumiki would be unhappy in the Zenin clan to manipulate him, thats just straight facts. They hate women and non-sorcerers. Gojo was doing him a good deed by stepping in.
Also I think Danny's interpretation of Gojo hating Megumi is interesting but the scene in the manga where Gojo wakes up and smiles at Megumi with a heart in the speech bubble makes me thinks thats not the case at all, even if recent events could be interpreted that way lol
Where tf did he got gojo hates megumi?
@@chapri_from_chapra5443blud had an iq of squirrels for sure 😂
@@goatjo6802 worst reactor and analysis video ever
@@chapri_from_chapra5443 ong especially that dude on the right i've watch his anime reaction channel and dude is so cringe trying hard to be funny 💀
The thing yall missed about Geto's motivation: Yuki explained to him that non-sorcerers are the only one who create Cursed Spirits since they cant control their Cursed Energy. So as a Jujutsu Sorcerer your job is to risk your life fighting Curses to protect the people that are creating the Curses in the first place; you can see how someone could take issue with that.
That's then compounded with the two little girls: The Cursed Spirits in their town they were able to see were created from the negative emotions from the towns people both in general & specifically towards the girls, but they were persecuting them for it. Even once Geto took care of the initial threat their hatred would just contiue to spawn more Curses, so he killed them all. Problem solved.
Yeah I agree that if their analysis of Yuki and Geto's conversation went a little deeper they would pick up those things. I watched it twice and payed a lot more attention to the conversation the second time around and found what you found. I think that Nick and Danny are really focusing on the change in direction, such as the cinematic elements, and forgetting that sometimes you just gotta listen real good lol
Yeah, their analysis was off on a few things. Did neither one of them read the manga?
@Seli.em54 nick has but Danny hasn't so I don't see how nick could miss that
@@darknesswave100 he’s deff gotta reread.
I mean if you're a complete shit head narcissist who doesn't care about people, yeah I can definately see people taking issue with that. But it isn't their fault AT ALL that they havent dedicated their lives to learn to fight cursed spirits. Most of them are born unable to fight them. These are people that mostly love fighting anyways. Also there are plenty of thingd that this society provides for him. Why should that bother him at all? I doubt that guy even paid taxes.
In the shower scene and the rain scene is not just the sound of falling water, if you listen closely it's also the clapping sounds of the people who killed riko (which is also in the op)
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For being anime buffs they missed so much
@@MattRuthlessI think it's because they most likely only watched it once. They're discussing their first watch and not trying to do a deep dive immediately, especially Danny. I expect Nick to have some different inputs in future breakdowns and such. They are anime buffs, that doesn't mean that they are responsible for understanding every bit of an anime
@alexisyates8204 but they missed some of the most basic stuff then come online to talk about it?
@@MattRuthless yeah of course lol this is their podcast. It's a podcast discussing anime. Nowhere in it do they claim they do a detailed breakdown of every new anime episode that they watch, this is actually the first time, as far as I can remember, that they even do these deepish dives into every anime epispde of a show. I think that it's really cool that underneath in the comments a lot of people are discussing their perceptions and things that they found in the anime, but if you're mad you didn't hear a thorough breakdown scene by scene I think it would be easier to go watch an episode review :) no hate I just don't understand why they can't come on their own podcast and discuss their own opinions lol
they literally talk about that
In JJK I find the Megumi and Gojo scene funny because Gojo is trying to mess with Megumi and creep him out but Megumi’s too smart for his age. I love their relationship because Gojo is the adult but acts like a child and Megumi’s the child but acts like the adult. I don’t think Gojo hates Megumi in any way he just likes to mess with him and he just wants Megumi to grow up be strong jujutsu sorcerer.
Yeah I really don't think his personality strayed far from how he acted in the beginning of the arc. The faces he made and the way he spoke just came off like his usual goofy and cocky self. The only thing I can say changed was that one aspect where he DID get serious
@@coffee.pillar gojo just matured a bit and his motivations changed, other than that he's still his goofy self.
Anyone else think when Gojo ask Geto should we kill them all it was like Gojo trusting the future of his morality to Geto I kinda got that vibe from that scene
I think it was supposed to convey that as well. The whole arc was each character kind of flipping their motivations and in those last two episodes, both of them were on the tipping scale. I'm sure if geto made his mind up in that moment that gojo would at least consider doing it.
r.i.p pissboy o7
One of the things that I've loved about the adaption of JJK is the sound design and how much it conveys. When Geto was in the shower he was remembering the image of the people in the star plasma association smiling and clapping about Amanai's death and the sound of the water ends up sounding exactly like their clapping like he's reliving that moment as he wrestles with protecting non-sorcerers. Then when he's with Yuki and she's talking about the options of killing all non sorcerers the rain starts and the water again sounds like clapping calling back to that scene. In fact, you end up hearing that sound of the rain before you see it so it was a little unclear if the sound was him remembering the clapping or if it was raining. I love when adaptations use the new medium to deliver on the story in ways the previous medium couldn't and you can do things with sound in a show that you just can on paper.
I think his conflict with gojos power is that Gojo was born with techniques that he simply has to unlock, while Geto had to BUILD through suffering his special grade status. And I think that’s why he had to also grasp hard onto a principle for doing this, for being the only one in his family who has this powers, for being scouted. Gojo was already there, he was already a clan member, he grew up in there, he never really had to find a motive… until Geto defected, that is. And Geto changed his whole perspective because, unlike Gojo, he wasn’t really challenged in his power during the toji event cause of Gojo had been beaten he knew already that toji was a menace. Geto was challenged in his view of humanity: they were the weak ones being haunted unjustly by entities they didn’t even know they created. But then he saw WHY he created them: their evil and vile and abusive nature, and he also has to swallow that nature, he TASTES humanity’s disgust. That’s why he keeps bringing it up: it’s not even about the curses, he is like “do you know how horrible the disgusting nature of humanity tastes like?”. No one else knows, but me.
And tbh seeing how Mahito is, representing how disgusting humanity is… Geto was somewhat on point.
The whole point is that society is so messed up that humans leak this stuff, ridding the world of this stuff would make everyone’s life easier. However he now has resentment, that then transforms into hatred cause it’s human. Put yourself in his shoes, seeing what he saw from people, being traumatised by it, tasting their disgust everyday, having to do that out of a duty of protecting people like this? It’s truly human to develop his hatred from them. Then he also sees his fellow sorcerers die, loose their lives, be traumatised, he sees people abusing CHILDREN, innocent children accusing them of horrible things cause they had jujutsu powers… come on, his hatred is completely comprehensible. I can see how he justified himself in his purpose.
Before meeting yuki he ALREADY wanted to kill them. He is the one who came up with that idea. But he was resisting that urge, cause he’s not a psycho who would just go out to kill out of revenge like that. He truly was trying to hold his disgust and anger back. But then yuki gave him a noble cause to do so. THATS when he moved. I’m not killing them just out of anger, but I’m also justified cause I want to rid the world of curses and eliminating you people is the way to do so.
I’m not saying killing and genocide is right at all. But in the jjk verse and his circumstances I completely understand him.
Danny how could you not get anything ? How are people so confused with Getos motivations.
The same people that claim sub is easy to read and watch are the same the miss most of the stuff
@@MattRuthless Sub is so easy to read but Americans read like grade 1 students lol. If you are an adult and cant read and watch at the same time, maybe its time to go back to kindergarten.
@@NickG409good thing you don’t have to be able to read to be a super power 🤷🏻♂️👏
@NickG409 way to throw all Americans in with these 2. Are all of whatever you are as judgmental as you are?
@@NickG409generalizing a whole country makes you a piece of shit lol
The more I hear Nick talk about Geto the more I sympathize with him like I don't agree with him but I understand why he feels and does what he does, you know
12:10 No, you were right the first time, Nick. It was an episode centered around Porygon, but the flashing lights were from Pikachu Thunderbolt-ing a missile. Porygon was completely innocent!
there was a time where I thought that they made rotom, as a 'mon to replace porygon lol
Free my boy porygon he deserves to be in the anime
@@gabegomez205GOOD NEWS!
Did they notice the rain sounded a lot like the clapping of the cult and the timing of it each time is like the exact moments he’s contemplating going off the path he’s currently on. The two moments are the shower scene and when Yuki say she’s not crazy to go that far yet. It’s really great sound direction by Mappa
Fruits basket got remade in 2019 after 18 years and is one of the best anime ever made
Like nooo Way people think Gojo and makima is the same??? Gojo actually loves his students and cares for them, even people in the universe realize that gojo favors megumi. Makima is just plain evil and gojo is not.
Gojo isn't telling Megumi that no one will keep an eye on Tsumiki, he's responding to Megumi when he asks if Tsumiki will be happy if they went to the Zen'in clan. To which Gojo says she wont be, so Megumi says he'll go to the academy.
Also if Gojo is on his power trip and is only raising Megumi as a get back, why would he ever care about his other students like Yuji and Nobara the same way?? I just think he gave Megumi the option to ask him about Toji just because a kid deserves to know what happened to his father lol. One last point for the Manga readers so spoilers...
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If Gojo hates Megumi why would he be so shocked when he realized that it was Megumi's soul that was taking the toll of his infinite void? He just understands whats at stake here and cant let sukuna run rampant just because he's in Megumi's body. Though I'm sure Megumi resembling Toji helps him not pull his punches like he said at the start of the fight lmao
One thing that they didn’t touch on that I really loved in jujutsu kaisen was when geto was beating the breaks off of that old man he had mentioned that he knew what he was going to do because desperate people go for the easiest path towards victory. Later on geto’s talking with yuki and she mentions that the easiest option would be to eradicate humans but she didn’t have the heart for it and that’s the only idea geto actually considered and later on pursued. So I love the fact that the show shows how desperate he was to find himself and solve the issues going on within himself
I mean this respectfully, as someone who hasn’t read the manga and just watched the anime, I wasn’t confused at all? Danny I think you should maybe rewatch the episode. They do a better job conveying Geto’s mindset than you give them credit for. All love tho
I feel like not enough people are acknowledging the mimiko and nanako scene. Nick is the first one I've seen bring it up to someone not understanding, and it's just blowing my mind that it's not getting brought up.
@@plaecholderwell to be fair, most anime only people aren’t aware yet that those 2 kids actually are
This is my understanding of Geto’s reasoning for his hatred of humans as an anime only watcher:
Geto in my opinion is very similar to Shinobu Sensui of Yu Yu Hakusho. His principle was survival of the weakest and he will accomplish that by being the strongest with Gojo. His hatred of humans came from seeing the ugliness of humanity and his principle being dismantled completely.
Survival of the weakest in his view was the weak (non Jujutsu sorcerers) should be protected by the strong (Jujutsu sorcerers) and as one of the strongest it’s his responsibility to uphold that belief. I’ll show how each part got dismantled in this arc.
The strong & their responsibility: Geto’s principle is built off the foundation that he and Gojo are both the strongest. Being the strongest meant that it’s his and Gojo’s responsibility to uphold the role of that title. When Toji killed Amanai, Gojo, and potentially the maid then beat him it cracked the title he gave both Gojo and himself. Not only was they not the strongest, but they couldn’t protect the weak. When he know that Gojo is the strongest with no equal is when his role and title was stripped from him. Geto no longer had the role as the strongest to carry out his principle anymore.
Protection of the weak: Toji, Amanai, and the cult followers are to blame for this portion of his principles crumbling. Amanai’s death showed him that he’s not strong enough to actually carry out his principle. If he was the strongest then she would be alive is what his principle basically implies that’s what he believes. Toji is a non Jujutsu sorcerer, who in Geto’s principle, would be the weak, yet he’s the one who stripped him of being the strongest and prevented him of protecting the weak. Geto’s principle is idealized and doesn’t factor in the dark sides of humanity. The cult followers toppled Geto’s purpose of protecting the weak. The followers were weak people who his principle is built to protect, yet here they were celebrating the death of another weak person he failed to save. If weak celebrate and go out their way for the death of the weak then why do they deserve protection? Geto couldn’t find a suitable answer at the time and fell back to repeating his duties with less conviction than before. The village was ultimately the breaking point, but the cult is what made him lose faith in humanity. It also didn’t help that an out of it Gojo said “should we kill them all” and “do we need a reason”. Those were not the words he needed to hear at the time.
Geto reminds me of a more reasonable Shinobu Sensui. Both had pure and idealized principles where things were black and white. Them being strong made them not have to have their principles challenged early. Both ran into the ugliness of the world and abandoned their principles. The difference is that Shinobu immediately sided on eliminating all of humanity without exception while Geto only had that view for non sorcerers and still looked at Jujutsu sorcerers positively based on his conversation with Gojo at the end of JJK0. Overall, his hatred is because he saw a group of non sorcerers pay a strong non sorcerer to kill a weak non sorcerer and celebrate it like it was the best thing ever at a young age. Add on top he didn’t get any help with the trauma and left for a year unaddressed as he tried to stay the path until he couldn’t handle it anymore with that village beating and locking up those kids blaming curses when he knows for a fact curses weren’t involved. It doesn’t have to do with him executing and absorbing curses. That line being repeated to me is the series indirectly saying since the Amanai mission he felt as if his life is on repeat doing those two things and every time he’s thinking about what happened that day and saying what’s the purpose of it. Why am I absorbing these disgusting curses for the protection of the weak when the weak don’t deserve protecting. Those two things are constant reminders of the purpose of his now shattered beliefs.
I interpreted Geto’s hatred for non-sorcerers less as them being powerful and oppressing sorcerers and more about them just being not worth all the pain and suffering of sorcerers.
They’re not defenseless angels as shown with Toji being a weapon hired by the star religious group. He has to go through the revolting cycle of consuming curses repeatedly and good people like Haibara end up dying all in service of protecting them. The same people who had Riko, an innocent middle school girl killed. The same people who locked up and abused two little girls. On top of all this, it’s revealed to him the non-sorcerers are the cause of cursed spirits, the ones who he has to consume, the ones who kill good people like Haibara. Sorcerers suffer in silence fighting against a threat, the creation of which they are not culpable for.
The Chinese anime Link Click season 2 is also a contender of anime of the year and has the best opening of this year so far. So good and emotional 😊
I'm in such a Geto Gojo mindset this past week.
You and me both
@girlfrombasingse8203 ever since this season started, it's been growing insanely.
I think his motivation is quite well built from the aftercredits scene with the glapping where Gojo asks if they should kill them all in a very non-chalant I don't care either way way and Gojo replies "well of course not" very sure of himself in that moment. But then seeing the burden put on himself and Gojo as Gojo is now strong so they both are doing missions alone - especially Gojo. He continually flashes back to the scene with ppl clapping and almost asks himself why they're working so hard to protect the weak when the weak masses can be ignorant fools who enabled bad things to happen to riko out of sheer ignorance, just as they are ignorant to the curses they cause to manifest from their negative emotions/bad actions.
He has an entire crisis around why his whole drive/motivation has been to protect the weak masses, when the weak masses enable bad things to happen in the "real world" out of ignorance, just as they are ignorant to cursed spirits they cause to appear
Also, and again I mean this in the most respectful way possible, comparing Makima to Gojo is an insane take? Lol. Very much a reach imo.
Memory unlocked! I watched wolfs rain years ago and completely forgot it existed. Maybe it’s time for a rewatch, I remember really liking it but being iffy on the ending
Justice for Porygon!! Pikachu actually caused the explosion that resulted in the seizures of all those kids but because he's the mascot, Porygon and it's evolutions got blamed and were blacklisted from the Anime ever since
48:00 OKAY DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THE SOUND DESIGN IN THAT SCENE WITH GETO AND YUKI BY THE VENDING MACHINES THOUGH?? Nick, you pointed out that it keeps cutting to the blurry images of those men clapping over Riko's dead body, but for almost that ENTIRE scene, where Yuki and Geto are talking about whether or not Geto wants to protect non-curse users anymore, *you can still hear their applause in the background.* the first time i watched it I thought that it was the sound of just intense rain since it was storming in that scene, but if you listen, near the end of the scene the applause dies away and you can hear normal rain-sounds.
i'm not a manga reader, so i don't know how it was conveyed in the text, but i thought the choice to have that horrible applause in the background of that scene for minutes straight was genius. all of the confusion/issues that i had (same as Danny, not understand why Geto's motivation shifted so suddenly, assuming it was the shit-rag stuff) were immediately nullified because that clapping made me understand. the horror of those people laughing and clapping over the corpse of a girl that he had been trying to protect seemed to break something in him. Geto told Gojo that he couldn't kill that group because they were just common followers, not the higher-ups who actually paid for Toji to kill her, but i think those people began to represent humanity (non-curse users) for Geto. it wasn't just those applauding people that had to pay for their actions, it was all of humanity.
Dudes Wolf's Rain does rule completely slept on
the evil gojo is the most stupid thing I ever heard. The dude is just cold when he talks. Danny just invented a whole new character in his head.
a lot of ppl think like that unfortunately... if anything what makes gojo interesting as an OP character is his humanity, his vulnerable side. him acting unhinged and looking psychotic when he fights doesn't suddenly make him an evil character. heck, even his students look unhinged when fighting. like gojo said "you have to be a little crazy to be a jujutsu sorcerer".
The moment I hear someone say Gojo has a god-complex I’m no longer listening. No wonder Danny hates season one, he doesn’t understand the characters at all.
Ive been reading the manga since chapter 4 was released. I personally think that the anime keeps the tone of the manga very consistent. NC is right about each arc having a very distinct tone in itself. The tone of the exchange event feels intense, but also very light-hearted. Thats juxtaposed to the very uneasy and anxiety filled tone of the Vs. Mahito arc. The anime does a good job at shifting the tone based on the particular vibe that Gege wanted you to feel at any given point. That said, I do think that Danny would really enjoy the tone of the manga if the tone of the most recent arc is what he preferred. The current arc os specifically right up his ally 😬
Finding out Nick is a Dance Gavin Dance fan adds a new layer of love for this podcast.
Nick, that scene you missed was in the post credits of the last episode
1:30:26 gosh Wolfs Rain was such a good anime. It was so dramatic and somber I loved it so much. Danny so doesn’t explain it well tho 😂. To be fair it’s kinda confusing and I still don’t get parts of it.
The wolves are thought to be extinct because they stopped showing themselves to humans as a survival tactic cause they kept getting hunted down. Most normal humans think they are extinct cause they really almost are, the only ones who believe they are still around are the ones still hunting wolves. And the wolves don’t really turn into humans they just gain something like a human illusion to hide themselves. You can see it when the wolves try to use their ‘human hands’ to grab something but end up using their wolf fangs instead, cause they don’t actually have hands to grab something and hold on so they bite it instead. The human body isn’t physically there which is why the jump back and forth between wolf and human so quickly and so often, it really almost is just a metaphor for the wolves. All the animals around them react to them like they are wolves too cause they don’t see the human illusion. Which leads to some funny interactions.
I’m not going to get into the plot or anything cause ya know *spoilers* but Nick should definitely watch it. It’s absolutely one of the best anime I watched as a kid. I’m gunna go watch it now actually. Thanks for this trip down memory lane and awesome episode!
not liking the hot dog captain in bleach in human form is one of the hottest takes ive ever heard on the internet its like my brain got flashbanged also I havent seen wolfs reign in a while but I swear the reason its cool is the whole perspective is from a group of wolves but when the wolves are talking to eachother they look like humans to eachother
Geto is an incredible antagonist
Okay was I the only one that thought when the rain and the shower water morphed into clapping. Showing that geto was just replaying the clapping in his head over and over and thats all he heard. I might be stretching but I love the thought.
the discussion on gojo here was almost bizarre i feel like we're not even watching the same show. gojo's (and the responsible adults eg nanami's) motivation comes from protecting and nurturing the youth to grow strong and make a better jujutsu society to avoid more getos and haibaras. toji tells gojo that his son will be sold off to the zenin clan, who would treat him like a weapon for their own gains, and ignore his older sister at best but probs treat her like crap, because they don't like non-sorcerers. gojo protects them, and he does the same with yuta and yuji.
the message of jjk is that despite how powerful and talented people may be, they are ultimately human, and particularly the innocent children should be protected. gojo can be unhinged and power trippy for sure, but his character revolves around the one true connection he had and how circumstances ripped them apart, and now he doesnt let anyone ever get close to him (there's literally infinity between him and everyone else), but he doesn't want that to happen to anyone else. geto and gojo take opposing lessons from the hidden inventory experience, but both in service of protecting people.
Wolf Rain was written by a 4th grader in 2003 makes so much sense it’s crazy
So the someone probably already pointed this out, but Rurouni Kenshin has been a remake like FMB. It looks good.
48:14 well, Toji is in a certain way a curse spirit. the only difference is, that where normal curse spirits like Mahito are created by the normal world, it was the Jujutsu world that created Toji
Been listening to the podcast for the past couple weeks after starting from the beginning and just now realized that I've seen Danny's content before. I saw a lot of hardest punches in anime and never put 2 and 2 together until it was brought up.
wow, I think you guys completely misunderstood the scene between gojo and megumi or perhaps the translation was shit. Does gojo have a god complex? Yes, does he have hatered for megumi? I totally disagree. The very end of the episode basically shows that this season was essentially him reliving the past and mourning the loss of a friend but what he ends up getting out of it is being able to usher in a new generation and allow them the space to grow and make decisions how they wish in contrary to what he, geto, and shoko dealt with. Gojo takes Geto's original philosophy to heart and shows from here on out. Not sure how you got that he has some sort of grudge towards megumi.
They didn't understand anything .
A little bit unrelated but some underrated artsy anime recs;
Land of the Lustrous
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Mononoke
47:30 The thing here is that Geto's motive should have then been the Star Religious group and not the humanity, this just makes its seem like its driven by plot to just have a "villian" for the sake of it.
1:34:05 Anime and comics diagrams is more of a circle than anime and video games. Most anime are based off comics.
Every time I get somewhere in these podcasts I’m stricken with “THE NEED TO GO READ!” And as a person that can read well I’d say I read but I lied I can’t read.
Love how Danny's guard instantly goes up when Nick starts talking about jjk manga
YO WOLF'S RAIN! My good friend from college and I used to love randomly singing the opening.
I am so happy Wolf's Rain was brought up 🥹
R.i.p Chester, thanks alot for reminding pissboy.
When i think about it. My love for Jojo's bizarre adventure explains my love for Record of Ragnarok and Baki
Oh damn. Collosal Con is less than an hour from me.
Wolves rain was the absolute shit back in the day. So good.
I like how the rain in the fifth episode of jjk starts to turn into the clapping of the star group
I got seizures from head trauma from mma around 21 years old and outgrew them (copious amounts of weed, mushrooms for neurogenesis, nootropics, and peptides bpc-157+tb+500)
I am officially tougher than seizures. Thanks for recognizing me, Nick.
Geto and his motivation is the exact same thing as 90% of skulduggery pleasant villains
28:00 so some animes that did get remade was Ushio to Tora, Urusei Yatsura, Sailor Moon, Fruit Basket, Dororo, Casshern, Gegege no Kintaro, Devilman, Captain Tsubasa, Fate: Stay/Night, Ghost in the Shell keeps getting remade too
Does anyone else like rewatching Hunter x Hunter? I feel like it’s one of the few shows that I can just play in the background. The English dub is great so I can listen while I cook/wash dishes. Also the arcs are so separate that I don’t feel like I have to rewatch the whole show when I want to play it in the background. I can watch just Heaven’s Arena or Greed Island without having to remember every detail of the previous arcs.
While I rewatch HxH in its entirety like twice a year, I’ve easily rewatched individual arcs like Greed Island (fav to rewatch) four to five times a year. It’s a little wild when I think about how many eps I’ve rewatched and how many hours of my life that equates to - but I’m usually multitasking so it’s not time wasted.
(Chimera Ant Arc is my favorite arc, but way too deep/emotional/complex to casually rewatch.)
I’ll be there Danny!!! I’m so excited to meet you! :D And I’ll be at Anime NYC too!
It's a remastered version you can tell They quite literally went back through the lines and made a clean version of it. For kids is basically the 4 kids version, but not from 4 kids.
Raising a glass for Pissboy. He shall be missed.
Love that Nicks favorite band is also Dance Gavin Dance, hell yeah
I think Geto's spririling is more on the sense of the injustice of it all. Why must jujutsu sorcerers sacriface themselves to save humans from curses they didn’t create (as Yuki explained, sorcerers don't create curses). On top of it all, humans killed Riko. Humans tortured two little girls with cursed technoques.
So basically you’re expected to die horribly, like Haibara, to save people that not only create the problem but also are terrible to you and your friends. It's an awful world and Geto just has to swallow it down, like he swallows bitter curses.
Another thing is that Gojo was becoming the strongest, and therefore very self absorved as well and more distant from Geto powelevel wise, so Geto was feeling isolated and alone.
His decent into hating humanity is a process, not revenge. It would be if he had killed the people ate the cult, but he didn’t, and he told Gojo not to do it because according to the moral of protecting the weak, they were just humans who didn’t know better (even if that haunted him afterwatds, you can hear the clapping sounds in the shower scene). It takes a year of Geto doubting and questioning his morals and motivations for him to snap and murder the village.
Him and Gojo realize that the Jujutsu world is messed up. But Geto thinks it's best to "defend" sorcerers by creating a world without curses while Gojo tries to chance de Jujutsu structure trough education.
As for the Zen'in family, in the first season they explain that they are horrible, especially to women (Maki and Mai are examples). And non sorceres are not valiable to them, so Tsumiki, a non sorcerer girl would be mistreated.
I think it's also narratively beatiful that Geto didn’t hate Gojo. He was also thinking about him: Gojo was also going to suffer fighting curses relentlessly and being held responsible for the 'saving' everyone, as he became the strongest. Granted, his plan was mass murder, so debatable. But in the end they were just different and both wanted what they thought was best for the other.
Gojo clearly feels guilty for not realizing Geto's suffering and not being able to prevent it. He’s the strongest yet he couldn’t save his best friend. At the final scene there is this little detail that his eyes are puffy when he lifts the blindfold. He was crying while remembering their highschool days. 🥲🥺😭😖😣
Dragon Ball Kai was not popular in Japan, but was huge overseas. It was probably because the manga is way bigger than the adaptation, so hardcore fans were satisfied with the manga, but the west is somehow foreign to the idea that a manga can be the definitive version of the story.
So funny to see dannyworrying about the vonvention after the fact. So many of us showed up!
The JJK anime definitely implies that Geto thinks humans are the ones in power and treat sorcerers like shit even though they are the ones protecting them
Wolf's Rain was one of the first anime i ever watched. I'm with Danny on this. Story is loose but its VERY good.
To explain the Wolf thing, it’s rooted in real life
Honestly I think the Makima and Gojo comparison is pretty interesting. They definitely aren’t the same but I think there are similarities between them that are worth exploring especially in the way that each of them relate to humanity. Don’t get me wrong Gojo has a genuine care for those around him (he always has even as far back as hidden inventory) and the farthest he’s ever gone is apathy. On the other Makima doesn’t care. Though I don’t know if I’d call her evil as much as I’d call her amoral.
SECOND!!!
The theme song is called "Stray" by Steve Conte.
So that's what is being shouted out. NOT changing.
I watched Wolf's rain in like 2013 and only vaguely remember it. But I remember liking it and the opening 🤣🤣🤣
Nick thanks for the nip slip at 1:04:28. Needed it in my life :D.
52:55 lmaoo that joke is literally made in the manga
Nah this title is crazy 🤣 love the content
Been so long since I've watched Wolf's Rain. No one ever talks about it so I'm glad it's getting some love.
You guys should get a plant or 2 for the set it would brighten the whole set
I went out of my way to get Wolf's Rain on dvd back when dvds mattered. It's an incredible show.
I wonder what Nick will think about Brulee’s power Mirror-Mirror fruit when he gets to Whole Cake Island. I thought it was such an awesome idea that had a lot of potential (but was underutilized, which I get because Brulee wasn’t main character material).
It can easily turn into a prison for anyone left in there (as long as they don’t catch the user of power). I saw someone on Reddit mention how you could easily trap one of the four emperors in there and they’d be helpless. No food, no way to get out, they’d just perish.
While I think that devil fruit is awesome, I do have a soft spot for any power that involves dimensions/spaces. For example I also like Knov’s ability in HxH.
gojo is not evil and psychotic and he does not have a god complex. i can understand why it might seem that way after seeing his "honored one" moment where was looking a bit manic and unhinged after coming back from a near death experience but he is nothing like makima. if anything, it's precisely his humanity that makes him an interesting character because as powerful as he is and as heartless he may seem, he has a vulnerable side to him. the way he behaves sometimes might seem like he just doesn't care about anything or anyone but that's because of his power, the way he sees and perceives the world is completely different than most regular sorcerers. they can't understand him and he can't understand them to a certain extent... however his choice to raise megumi and the next generation of sorcerers comes from nothing but his want to protect the youth and to raise a generation of strong sorcerers that can one day make the jujutsu society better, he wants the next generation to be able to surpass him and someone with a god complex would never want that. he says himself in s1 that he hates the way the jujutsu society works and he could easily kill the old heads and reset it but that wouldn't bring evolution, that's why he chose education in order to raise strong and reliable allies that he can pass on his beliefs to. it's true that he looks a bit crazy when he has a bit of a challenge in terms of fights, but that doesn't make him evil. he just kind of gets high on power but he's ultimately a good person and if anything you could say he's "morally grey", but not evil.
after the tragic events that occurred in his youth he makes the decision to take in megumi and raise him and that's when he chooses the "good path" instead of the evil path geto took. his and geto's philosophies switched by the end of the arc. in the beginning geto was the one that believed in protecting non-sorcerers and gojo didn't understand why he had to protect them and by the end geto starts hating non-sorcerers and protecting sorcerers instead and gojo starts protecting non-sorcerers and the young generation of sorcerers. gege's way of storytelling is not very "in your face", he doesn't always tells you everything and leaves a lot of things up to interpretation using visual storytelling and symbolism instead so i can understand why some people may get confused or not get everything but if you take some time to re-watch the episodes (or read the manga) and pay attention to the dialogue and the visual details, there's a lot that can be interpreted about both characters and their beliefs.
It’s so funny to see Danny back up wolfs rain but not know that season one of SAO is about to knock him out the water.
BTW DANNY THERES AN ABRIDGED VERSION OF SAO if you wanna see that it’s hilarious
This is the most Nick opinion i have ever heard.
I don't what opinion your talking about but I agree
@@alivestilldanielmost likely the “geto did nothing wrong” opinion
Dani IS very much Legisi coded
its funny hearing danny talk about gojo and makima when all over pinterest while looking for tattoo ideas for seperate tattoos of gojo and makima i found so much fan art of them together and it made me click and go oh shit they are kind of similar (not up to date on chainsawman)
I totally agree with Nick that the Chainsaw Man manga and anime match perfectly.
I like that you actually talk about anime I watch Trash Taste and they barely talk Anime
I'm in dressrosa' tooo , in ep. 655 & by now it's nothing new it has always been thiss brutal 💀
I don't know why people can't figure out beserk it's so good and it deserves a good anime adaptation
Really shocked nobody drafted serious punch
I feel like Nick is more outraged with Danny when he says Danny instead of Daniel. I can't explain why but that feels right to me.
Anybody else feel JJK has been really good but it's being put up on a pedestal like it's a masterpiece when not enough has happened in season 2 yet
It just need to be pointed out that Gojo is high from the moment he gains the power of the 6 eyes. The euphoria he experiences is reminiscent of an acid trip and it never goes away.
Hi Guys so I know that the episode really had nothing to do with this but if there is a way Nick can make a video on everyone who was a Captain in bleach and maybe their abilities that would be great. Vice capts are great too. I am watching TyBW arc and omg idk half of the capts bc the last I saw of bleach was the Arrconcar arc. Thank you both for everything you do and Danny I have wig arms too and my wife loves it. You are loved too❤
Oh hell yeah, I hope I get to meet you at Anime NYC. First anime expo. Thinking about doing a Law from One Piece cosplay (even tho I haven’t gotten to him yet in the show 🤣)
Omfg.
I LOVE DANCE GAVIN DANCE 1:51:32
Nick I think we just became best friends wtf bro! I didn't think I would ever be marking "Nick is a DGD fan" off my bingo card wow! This is legitimately the most mind blowing thing you've ever said on this podcast, and I just listened to you try to defend wanting to bang Minks LMAOOO pls tell me what your fave album is and who your fave of the 3 vocalists are 🎉 You going to Swanfest in October? 👀
Im with Nick on this one. SAO season 1 is a great watch, a really interesting dive into how different characters react to being in the world
This is soooo good I’m harder than a diamond in a ice storm let’s go
Danny mention Black Butler. Go ahead. Do it. DO IT DANNY-
😂 I also workout for 2 hours 5 or 6 times a week, and that is when I watch all of my anime. I really can just crank my way through episodes
Rest in peace piss boi😔 you shall be missed fly high 🕊️