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Testing a CHEAP Ebay 40 series torque converter
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2018
- We got this cheap Ebay 40 series torque converter to test out. It doesn't have the best fitment but we made it work. Despite everything we read that said not to run the driver puller with the nut towards the engine we do it anyways. Luckily it worked and I still don't know why that is recommended not to do. We got it all mounted then had to torture test it. I think it passed.
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You did great by installing the engine pulley on "backwards". By doing this, the belt centerline will be maintained between the two pulleys as the units shift. If not done this way, the belt centerline will not stay centered. It will still work, but there will be loss of power, and loss of belt life. You need to install the yellow reverse wound spring onto the driven unit, and clock the cam ramp in the opposite direction, then all will be correct.
Thanks! Yes i looked up a few diagrams showing the driven pulley the opposite dirrection from the driver pulley. Apparently that is ok, or actually the correct way for symmetrical belt torque converters. Thanks for watching!
Excellent comment!
Been watching a bunch of your videos tonight. Definitely worth subscribing!
Your converter plate was on backwards that's why the pulleys were way off
It was not backwards its just the way it was made. Totally different from other 40 series may by other manufacturers but half the cost. Either way it still works great and we have had no issues with it. Thanks for watching Matt!
@@FireAndGasoline ok i was thinging the drive sproket was on the wrond side of TC thingy .i got a old nurry to fix ..a set up like your yours or a 100cc xl100 engine ,,thanks fer vudeo ...be blessed
@@FireAndGasoline You guys rotated the spring 1 hole to make it tighter. So the goal was to engage later right? So before tightening you had to much torque too soon and wanted to build speed slower right?
@@josephgiordano9292 the goal was to cause it to engage slower, correct. We wanted the engine to be running in its optimal rpm range.
@@FireAndGasoline you have a link to the conveter you used?
Im having an issue where my TC is not engaging into high gear (speading out) not sure why itll do maybe 35mph spins in the dirt. But wont open up and keeps tossing the chain and shes pretty tight also have tried lossening it but that made it worse 😂 any ideas would be greatly appreciated
😂 Fun video!!! That was very informative, of the belt engagement RPM adjustment, and the ability to run the Series 40 Torque converter driver clutch in either direction... Unfortunately, the series 30 Torque converter set-up has a flat plate on the I/B end of the driver and driven pulleys, so no capability of reverse mounting those driver or driven pulleys...
Thanks Michael! Yes the 40 series is a symmetrical belt type. Most 30 series are A-symmetrical belt type, however you can get the 30 series in a symmetrical belt type, just not as common. Maybe check out some of our other vids and consider subscribing. 🔥
Mr. Godfrey couldn't come up with a name when it came time to market his outdoor line of carts , etc. So he just spelled his name backwards ...... & Yerfdog was born !! 😉👍
Thanks Waylon! Thats good to know. 🤟🔥🤟
Loved the vid man keep on improving
Thanks planit MC!
That torque converter worked very well.... Low end power and good top-end power... The small front wheels on that Dingo kart presented the largest problem for off-road use...
Thanks Michael! You're right it needs both front and rear tire upgrades. Check out some of our other vids!
Yes the old yerf dogs are rough design but can find them so cheap! I widened my front end & stretched the rear end with a ninja 600 cc engine and its starting to get more fun :D
@@kylemilford8758 Sounds awesome Kyle! Thanks for watching!
I've never laughed so hard in my entire life I have an old Carter buggy not as nice as yours that thing is cool when you're at 18 minutes 42 seconds I laughed so hard when you were laughing that I spilled a beer knocked over an ashtray and dropped like four joints in the carpet and the dog knows what it is , absolute hilarious every time I'm in a bad mood I watch this and laugh like there's no tomorrow that is so funny I want to bring my buggy down there someday...
Awesome! Thanks for the great comment! 🔥🤟🔥
They forgot the spacer collar for the primary. That's why they had to flip it backwards.
I believe its actually because the driven pulley shaft is out about 2 inches from the faceplate. It could have been cut apart and fixed. But luckily it just worked running it backwards. Thanks for watching Luke!
I had fun, just watching. all that mud. It was great!
Thank you, we love to hear that! 🔥
What tooth count sprocket is on your jackshaft and what tooth count sprocket on your live axle? I have a 10 tooth on jackshaft but was looking to put a 17 tooth sprocket on and a 60 tooth sprocket on a 420cc and 40 series torque converter kit( my math says it should pull 67-72 mph with that set up) on a 1" live axle with 22x11-10 King tires on rear and 20x8-8 front tires and air shocks all around with rear swing arm and double a arms in front for off road and flat trails. I already built my frame and a arms and swing arm I'm down to the gears now and saw your video and thought I'd ask to get an idea. Thanks for the info. Kevin. Oh btw keep up the good work.
I believe its a 10 tooth up front and probably a 60 tooth on the axle. A 17 tooth compared to a 10 tooth, the 17 will have more speed and the 10 will have more torque. Kinda up to you what you want. The 40 series torque converter weights can be adjusted to whatever gearing you pick to keep the engine at optimal rpm. Thanks for watching Kevin! 🔥🤟🔥
@@FireAndGasoline thanks for the reply. I just got my 40 series torque converter kit with 10 tooth sprocket. I had the same issue you had with the drive clutch I had to mount it with clutch facing motor. From what my friend Larry said it don't matter which way it faces it will work the same way, the mounting plate acts like a shatter shield. I didn't have to do no mods to the mounting plate for oil dipstick I have 3/4 " space between back of jackshaft plate and dipstick. I installed a new pit bike muffler and snorkel air pipe custom made. My engine mount is 8 3/4" wide by 32" welded to 1x1 square tube due to the fact I'm running a chevy alternator to charge a riding lawn mower battery to run full function lighting brake lights air horn low beam and high beam because I'm using this in paradise as well, I'm going to try the 10 with 60 sprockets then try the 17 with 60 sprocket see witch one I like. This is a 2 seater. My next build I'm working on is putting my polaris indy 500 motor on a custom built single seat frame. We should hook up and tear up some trails I'm not far from you I'm in PA.
To install that spring you have to twist it and make sure it gets in all the clips or else it won’t be tensioned and will not shift correctly
I got that exact same go kart with a 670cc v-twin predator that I swapped from the 212cc that was originally in it. It does 65mph max and it drifts on quarter throttle
Awesome Neil! 🔥🤟🔥
Cual serie de cvt le instalaste?
I have a yerf dog original engine we have a blast on it lots of fun looks like you guys are having a great time
Thanks Albin, we were having a great time. Glad you enjoyed the video! Maybe check out some of our other videos and consider subscribing. 🔥
@@FireAndGasoline I love going in the mud it's awesome I will check out your other videos. I subscribed to your channel.
Love to see similar videos
Matescium, Thank you! Alot more videos coming.
I really hope you guys get this figured ouy
Is that Uwharrie?
The shaft on my Tecumseh is only like two two and a half inches and it still has a spacer
Ok maybe I'm wrong here but why didn't you just flip the plate
The jackshaft is welded onto the plate, that is actually the main problem is that its not welded in with the correct spacing. It has been years now running it this way and its still even the original belt. It's definitely worked better than any others we have used prior, so is it really even wrong?
You look crazy so I had to subscribe
Thanks, glad to have you as a subscriber Justin!
I hope you guys can help me out i have the same issue with the torque converter squealing and i dont know what it is. What did you guys do so i can try it out on mine? 6:25
Now see, I have a yerf-dog with just front suspension (model 3033A) and I put a Predator 212 on it with the cheap $60 eBay 30 series TC and it vibrates like crazy up until top speed then its a nice ride. I just ordered a brand new jackshaft for it just like the one it had from the factory. Hopefully that solves my vibration issue. I don't hear any vibration on your kart and Im jealous!
The jackshaft or axle would be my guess, if its bad enough you should be able to jack it up and turn it by hand and watch to see if its bent. Thanks for watching, check out some of our other vids!
I thought the same thing, but it vibrates bad before even moving forward. I took off the TC, plate, and the clutch and ran the naked engine on the kart and it still made a bad vibration, mostly in the floor pan. When I get the new jackshaft that has the plate that goes under the whole engine, Im gonna put a thin rubber mat between the jackshaft and the engine mount plate and hopefully going back to factory design will solve my issue. Looks like you guys are in the south somewhere? Im from SC, but live up in Idaho, so gokarting the mountains up to my fishing holes is one of my favorite things to do! Good video!
@@boisebadboy93 hopefully that works out for you, we are in Ohio.
Is the torque converter still holding up?
Still no issues and even the original belt, we liked it so much we bought a second one for another project.
Why don't you put a spacer behind the pulley
I put my main drive belt on backwards to seems fine was only way it fit
Looks like a lotta fun!
It sure was, thanks Robert! 🔥
The only thing bad is that muffler.
Do you by any chance have a link for this converter
I cannot believe you are actually able to flip that thing around make it work like that. Did you have to turn the guts around inside of it as well? Logically it makes no sense that it would still work. That little Yerf-Dog got up and got busy carrying both you guys. I'm impressed. What size motor? I have a 362 I believe it is and 11 horsepower predator. They only made them for a short while I guess
We didn't do anything but turn it around, luckily it just worked. We are having the weights machined to be lighter to keep the engine at a higher rpm more. It is a Honda GX390 engine, has intake, exhaust and upgraded valve springs. Thanks for watching Todd!
@@FireAndGasoline do you know if the gx390 13hp parts fit in the gx340 11hp
@@FireAndGasoline also what was the converter listed as on ebay, trying to build an old murry but dont wanna spend several hundred on name brand stuff like comet just trying to put it together, thanks man
@lordm there on eBay just look up 40 series torque converter there 230$
What mods have you guys made? And did it increase top speed and torque??
Other than the torque converter, we only removed the governor, upgraded valve springs, header and rejetted the carburetor. It most definitely made a big difference in performance. To really get the most out of it you would also want a cam, billet rod and aluminum flywheel. We are now partnered with OMB Warehouse and you can use our code BURNOUT5 to save 5% off your order. www.ombwarehouse.com?ref=5
Do you know what length i need for a torque converter belt on a 212 cc 6.5 HP predator engine? Mine snapped a couple days ago. Thanks in advance.
@@Mxl100 it depends on the torque converter. Im guessing you have a 30 series. Most of them run a belt number 5959. Hope that helps.
If I had to guess why they say not to install it that way it would be cause the direction the shaft spins is counter clockwise and with the nut facing that way it has more of a chance to unscrew itself against that force instead of the original way it’s supposed to go on.... glad to see it working for you. Let me know how that TQ holds up. Thinking about getting the same one
That was my guess also. Fortunately we haven't had any issues with that. If we did i was just gonna put a tack weld on the nut. Been a great clutch overall. Thanks for watching Casper, check out some of our other vids.
Fire And Gasoline definitely will
I wanna know how the hell to get the drivers rear wheel off. Got the nut off but nothing. Any info would appreciate it.
Alot of times the wheels, sprocket, bearings and brake hub get stuck on due to rust. It can be very difficult to get them off without damaging anything. I usually start with some good penetrating oil and let it soak in for atleast a few hours, maybe even spraying multiple times. You can then try again to remove them. You may need to tap on the wheel or axle with a hammer, be careful about hitting the threads its usually best to have the nut on the end. Remember hitting too hard with the hammer can cause distortion or damage to the metal. If that doesn't work you can try heating it up with a torch. This can expand the metal breaking the rust bond and allow you to remove it. After that if it dont work its gonna require more force and its likely something will end up damaged. Good luck Chris.
What motor yall have
Honda GX390
Great innovative mod to get around the problem. What is your final drive ratio running at? I notice you've got a good balance of speed and pickup that looks
well matched for the 40 series ratio's..
Cheers (and subbed).
The final drive ratio im not sure. Has a stock yerf dog rear sprocket and most torque converters are a 1 to 1 ratio at full engagement. To get everything matched to the engine like we have it. We tightened the rear driven puley spring and then had the weights machined in the driver pulley. By lightning the weights we were able to match engagement with optimal engine rpm. That way we are always in peak power range. Thanks for watching and the sub, glad to have you with us!
@@FireAndGasoline the sprocket was supposed to be inboard of the mounting plate like that?
@@mathdebates7936 yes, thats how this one came. I have seen other brands that have made them different but it works. We haven't had any issues with this torque converter at all.
@@FireAndGasoline that so weird. that's the first time I've seen a driver run that way. Assymetrical belt doesn't care and it's the inside of the driver that moves so I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work just as well that way. Not like the weights or springs know which direction they go. Hah
Nice kart
@@mathdebates7936 thank you and thanks for watching! Maybe check out some of our other vids and consider subscribing. 🔥
Is it a 420?
Its a honda gx390.
that thing sounds a lot like my 12hb brigs did on dinky after i cut the exhaust to only run past fenders. i miss that motor, but dose not have enough power for me to go back.
also your hand held carma image stabilization is quite impressive, do you do that in external software? my Nikons cant do that.
Thanks Rockey! The imagine stabilization is from the new camera. The Sony AX53 has a built in 5 axis gimbal.
JESUS, that camera goes for more than anything i have ever owned ever. most expensive thing i have bought to date was a 450$ subwoofer
Yeah it was a bit costly, but well worth it.
The sprocket belongs behind the mounting plate on the jack shaft
Yep
Need some paddle tires on the back
It does alright for a gokart. Thanks for watching, maybe check out some of our other vids.
That looks like so much fun!
Tons of fun Spanky! If you ever make it to Ohio swing by and have fun with us.
FireAndGasoline oh hell yeah!
Make sure belt is on backward too
Belt is symmetrical, can go on in either direction.
You're going to have to get some tires with more tread on the back. Those are turf tires. No good for mud.
I'm having a problem with it wanting to take off on me and if I hit the brake or try and stop the tire it stalls the engine. Maybe a spring problem?
Sounds like the driver pulley isn't disengaging, if you had it off perhaps its not back on correctly. If it just happened it could be rusted inside keeping it from moving freely. You can take it apart and clean and oil all the moving parts and it should be good again.
@@FireAndGasoline it was a problem with the clutch not opening up enough. It was a bad design. The clutch only opens up enough for the belt to go 3/4 down. It was one from the ROP Shop. Even the stop pictures have it sticking out 1/4". You win some you lose some with these cheap ones.
Whats the difference in 20 30 and 40 series?
Basically the horsepower they will handle, belt and shaft size. If you run a smaller torque converter you risk tearing up the belts quickly. For a stock predator 212 a 30 series is good. Anything 10hp or above you will probably want a 40 series.
Ty so much so on my 7.5 hp i have a series 20 is that ok?
@@justinkelly3927 should be fine. If you start going through belts you may want to upgrade.
Ty
Your mounting plate is on backwards... That's why it wouldn't line up.
The mounting plate is not on backwards, its just the way it was made. Luckily it works just fine with the driver clutch on backwards.
No that plate is definitely backward
Got yourself a clockwise spring. Need a CCW.
Was this the one from black horse racing?
No, this torque converter was purchased from ebay. Seems to work great other than the fitment of the driver pulley.
When you flipped the clutch around how did you line it up? I'm in the same boat and not sure how to line it up. With the nut in the outward position (normal) they say line up the two sides closes to the engine but when you flip it do you need to line up the pullys on the outboard side?
This one is a symmetrical belt style, it has a taper on each side of the belt. Asymmetrical types have a flat side of the belt wich typically goes towards the engine.
@@FireAndGasoline when you flipped the driver pulley around in the beginning, you actually turned it to the correct side. You had it the wrong way around to start with. (Hence why it then worked correctly.
This is still an asymmetrical system even though neither side is ‘flat’. If you look closely, you notice that the two sides of each pulley are still at slightly different angles.
www.bmikarts.com/PDF/Comet_40series.pdf
Instructions from comet on correct installation. even if it’s not a comet brand the clutch function is identical.
The “nut” side on the driver needs to face the opposite direction as the “spring” side on the driven.
These guys installed it correctly.
You just may have to space your driven clutch out a bit to line up depending on your setup.
Nyampek berapa ya om harga kopling setrifugal nya kalau punya saya pakai puly om
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Installing it that way the movable sheaves are working in opposite directions from one another and will make it impossible to keep them aligned properly. It may function ...but not for long....it will destroy the belt prematurely.
Thanks John, this is probably the go kart we ride the most and it has absolutely no problems and no sign of belt wear at all. If you look up "go kart torque converter installation diagram" on Google, you will find that it is more correct than most you see. Normally the driver pulley is on the opposite way i have it and the driven pulley should be on the opposite way. Its funny because even the ones you buy that have a backing plate are not usually setup this way. They way you see most people do it is actually the incorrect way. Crazy isn't it?
Also this is a 40 series with a symmetrical belt. If you have a 30 series with an asymmetrical belt(flat on one side tapered on the other) this is not the same. In that case both flat sides of the pulley must be on the same side.
@@FireAndGasoline you said it correctly, most people do have it installed with the clutches conflicting with each other. The 40 I bought from GPS has the driven factory installed on the back plate, spring facing outboard but unfortunately the driver is unable to be installed like the way you have yours due to a severe misalignment condition. I might have to ditch the backplate for a jackshaft so I can mount the driven with the spring pack inboard.
Thanks for the videos and info
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I just recently bought the same kart, doesn't seem as fast. I need that kind of speed. What kind of engine are you running?
This kart has a Honda GX390 engine, similar to the predator 420cc. Thanks Mike!
mikes705channel what engine are you running? Did you ever upgrade it ?
How did this hold up installing the driver pulley backwards? I ran into the same issue with the two pulleys not lining up, even with washers behind the driver pulley. It seems to line up perfectly if installed backwards.
Apparently it works just fine backwards. There wasn't any info on these out there so we decided to just send it and see what happened. Its still working great and no belt wear at all. Thanks for watching! 🔥
@@FireAndGasoline good to know! I'm building a 420cc trailmaster mini bike 🚲
@@Gamerj2014 awesome!
www.bmikarts.com/PDF/Comet_40series.pdf
They actually installed it correctly! 😁
Just installed the same torque converter on my go kart and when idling the torque converter engages and go kart moves on its own? Idle speed maybe?
Most likely idle speed is above the engagement rpm of the driver pulley. Try getting that idle down some and see if that help you.
@@FireAndGasoline yes, messed around today and the idle screw is the lowest it can possibly be at and it still does it. What I don't understand is how come youre setup works perfect, but mine has this issue? It's the exact same torque converter.
@@ryanlahay9361 Try putting the red spring in a different hole, that will cause it to engage at a much higher RPm and will no longer engage at idle, just make sure it’s the right hole.
@@thebrokenmystic879 the drive pulley appears to be engaging too early. So I ordered springs for that.
@@ryanlahay9361 that works too
Whats better in your eyes?
Getting a predator engine 6.5 HP for about 115$ and a 50$ 30 Series torque converter
Or
A Tilitson R 12Hp For about 230$ and a 40 Series Torque Converter for 120$
I would be using it for just driving up and down a road, fields, and a trail riding hilly areas.
They would both be suitable to do what you are looking to do. Though i haven't used the tillotson r myself, they do seem to be a good engine. I believe they also share the same 3/4" crank shaft diameter. So it pretty much comes down to what you want to spend and if you want the little bit of extra power. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Fire And Gasoline Thanks!
Fire And Gasoline I think I just need to save money for a little bit more power, cause I’m in really a really hilly area and could use the torque
@@mylostwife5230 sounds good! Let me know how it turns out.
@@FireAndGasoline i wont be able to do it soon but when i do get the money I will!
how much Horsepower does your engine provide? im curious because i want to know if my 6.5 hp engine will go as fast on a similar chassis to yours
The engine we have is a honda gx390 with basic mods. It has intake, exhaust, no governor and stronger valve springs. Its probably around 15hp id guess. The biggest difference was matching the clutch engagement to the peak range of the engine. You may be able to achieve the same top speed but you will not have the torque that the bigger engine has. If that is what you have just stick it on there and have fun, you can always upgrade later.
@@FireAndGasoline thanks for the info! Hope you have a good day!
That torque converter seems like a beast.
Yeah, it gets it done! I was concerned about running the drive pulley backwards, turns out it works fine that way. Thanks for watching!
FireAndGasoline should add some sort of guard for the air filter. Looked like a lot of water got to it.
Thanks, maybe not a bad idea.
Great video, I will subscribe when you guys are wearing helmets. Save those melons....lol. We want more vids. Love what you did to the 3203. I would like to do the same, can you post how you did it and what parts you needed? Thx
Ok, just keep watching until then! If you haven't yet, check out some of our other vids. There may be a few we are wearing helmets. Thanks for watching! 🔥
Fire And Gasoline I subbed
Does your kart try to drive away at idle? Because i just ordered one and am still working out the design flaws
No, haven't had any issues whatsoever with it. We did however modify the rollers to engage at higher rpm. And it periodically needs taken apart and kept oiled.
@@FireAndGasoline ok so i should probably oil before use correct?
@@miniboat369 it wouldn't be a bad idea. It also could have a burr or something that is hanging it up.
Nice video do u have a link to which one u got
Thanks Jimmie! Im not sure if this is the same seller, but its the same style. It still works great but as you saw has that chinese fitment. Fortunately we haven't had any issue running the driver pulley backwards. www.ebay.com/itm/Go-Kart-Torque-Converter-Kit-40-Series-Clutch-Pulley-Driver-Driven-8-to16HP/332553785775?hash=item4d6dc011af:g:euMAAOSwCglag0u6
Can you send the link to it?
Just look up 40 series torque converter on ebay and you will find it. The seller we bought these from is out of stock but there are other sellers. Id still say it works great, haven't had any issues with it at all. Thanks for watching!
so by messing with the spring that was the solution to the belt squeezing at idle? im have the same problem with my 40 series.
TOMMY G, that spring changes the rate the rear pulley expands. The rollers in the front pulley change the engagement rate. In the next vid on this we had machined down the rollers to remove weight and make them engage at a higher rpm. The lighter the roller the more rpm it takes to engage. Keeping the engine at optimal rpm.
awesome. thanks for the help. sorry about the repeated comments lol. Dont know exactly what happened with that.
No problem, thanks for watching!
I would say the solution is to get a good belt and also install the cover to the torque converter to protect it from splashes.
You guys put the sprocket on the wrong side of the mounting plate.
Did you have to modify the gx390 in order for it to fit I'm working on the same engine and oil dipstick is in the way
If it is just hitting the cap you can cut off the end where you turn it by hand and just make it flat. There should be one on each side of the engine, you can just use the other one to fill and check the oil. Thanks Randy!
@@FireAndGasoline I took the cap off to see if it would fit but it's like a hair off because of the neck of the oil is it ok to cut that and plug it with a bolt or something since there's two of them
@@randyszilay3590 if you are sure you can get it plugged good enough that it wont leak you can do that. Or you may be able to oval the mounting holes on the torque converter to move it up slightly. I have done that a few times and it worked great.
My buddy has the same go cart. He has just the clutch installed on it and it wont pull. I told him that it would need a torque converter for it to pull a load. I just dont know what parts to get. Can you list the parts you used,please?
It depends on the engine. If it is the stock 6.5hp engine with 3/4 inch shaft, you can use a 30 series torque converter. This is a 13hp gx390 engine that has a 1inch shaft so we used a 40 series torque converter. You can look them up on ebay 30 series is about $65 and a 40 series will run you about $200.
Damn. I didnt expect the fast reply. lol. Thank you!
Thanks Daniel! We keep it real! I feel you took the time to watch my vid and comment, the least i can do is reply. Check out our other vids and maybe consider subscribing.
Hell nah, Ebay is a last resort. Try GoPowerSports. That's where I got all my parts for a custom build. They have the "Clone" TAV's or the OEM TAV's from Comet. They are a little more $$ but worth it if ya want more quality. Personally, I went with Clone because it was only $100, $100 cheaper than the OEM Comet. Good luck. o7
I don't make much from my channel, so we have to do things with budget in mind to keep projects going. I have had good luck with ebay parts and the torque converter included. Im not sponsored nor do i want to be. I prefer to make things that anyone can afford to make. Check out some of my other build videos.
Badass man. When are you gonna send Jumpy2.0 off that yard ramp?. I cant wait!
Thanks Corey! We will have more vids on Jumpy 2.0 coming soon.
Now we're drilling it. Nice.
the beveld side on the belt does not line up with the driver pulley:)
Linus Wiktorsson, both sides of the belt is beveled on a 40 series.
seems like quite a bunch of trouble if you just wanted to hold hands on camera! 12:03
Does that drive pulley still in good shape after running it backwards
Yes it is still working absolutely fine, hasn't even worn the belt. I would say we haven't had a single issue with this setup at all. Thanks for watching Juan, maybe check out some of our other vids.
Awsome i will diff watch more of your videos ! And i just got the same exact clutch with the same problem now i know the fix thanks so much.
@@j-solo7776 its actually a good clutch, just a bad design. We have since machined the driver pulley weights to lighten them. That changes the rpm that the clutch engages at. Keeping it in the optimal power range of the engine.
Belt won't last
Been over 3 years, same belt, still working.
imagine what that thing would do with some aggressive tires,lol. reminds me of when i had my honda odessey ,i would be covered in mud within 20 minutes and i had fenders...
We are planning on upgrading the tires and steering soon. We are also having the torque converter weights machined to be lighter, that way it will stay at optimal rpm better. When you end up that muddy you know you had fun!
You couldn't put the drive gear on the outboard side of the drive clutch?
We could have but then it would have been pulling on the jackshaft at more of an angle. Even still it would not have lined up. This was really the only way it would work without cutting it up and redesigning it.
Mounting that backwards wasn't the best idea . You could've took that Jack shaft off and moved the torque converter over to the right . . That sucked 🤣🤣😂
What kind of engine is that?
It is a Honda GX390.
Where did you get the metal
Or how do i get a frame like that
@@munchies2coolforu910 that is a Yerf Dog go kart frame. You can probably find a used one near you on facebook marketplace. Maybe check out some of our other vids and consider subscribing.
That was Awesome Ya'll.
Thanks Vince! Maybe check out some of our other videos. 🔥
@@FireAndGasoline Where Ya'll from ?
I have Manco Warrior 265cc ,but have 11 hp Honda on it.
@@BigJeep00 Awesome, those are great karts. We are in Ohio.
@@FireAndGasoline Me to Bro,GreenTwp near Akron,where Ya'll how sweet?!?!
Vice versa on what you got it'll work better
Can u put the link so i can buy it 😌
It was an ebay seller that no longer has them so link was removed, there are other sellers on there you can try if you look up 40 series torque converter. Thanks for watching, maybe check out some of our other vids and consider subscribing.
I would think that the heavier side of the pulley should be closer to the engine like you did.
With a symmetrical belt it dosen't matter what direction either of the pulleys are facing. Most of the 30 series torque converters are asymmetrical meaning they have a tapered side and a flat side on them. The only thing I was worried about is the nut backing off on the driver pulley but so far that is not an issue. Everything has been working perfectly. Thanks for watching, maybe check out some of our other vids. 🔥
It's not working because you have the clutch on backward
Just an FYI. You all installed the plate wrong. The end of the plate that extends out should be under or behind the motor and not sticking out away from the motor. This is why you had to install the main drive backwards and why you had to move the sprocket so far. Here’s a link to how to video czcams.com/video/2Gm7LigBYlQ/video.html
I actually did not install it wrong. The vid you posted is for a 30 series torque converter and they are made differently from the 40 series ones. The way i installed it is the only way it would work. Now are there better 40 series torque converters, yes there are. This one was $200 and the others you will find run about $500. In the end its not a big deal and it all works just fine the way it is. Thanks for watching!
That was fun👍👍
Thanks, glad you liked it!
You better off turning the other pulley around
Do they make one for a honda 5 horse?
Not a 40 series torque converter, but you can get a 30 series torque converter to fit that. Should be a 3/4 inch shaft diameter. You can find them on ebay for about $60.
@@FireAndGasoline Thanks for the help Brother!Liked and subbed!
@@dspencer1969 thank you, glad i could help.
How much is the torque converter cost you?
It's been a while now but I believe it was around $200 when I purchased it. Less than half the cost of other 40 series torque converters. It also is still working great and still on the original belt. Thanks for watching Brandon! 🔥
@@FireAndGasoline could you link the one you bought/a similar one? Also, what engine do you have in this kart?
@@ryanlahay9361 i believe this is the same one we have. The seller we bought from is out of them but looks the same to me. We actually have 2 of these sets and no issues with either of them. Thanks for watching, maybe check out some of our other vids and consider subscribing. www.ebay.com/itm/Go-Kart-Torque-Converter-Kit-40-Series-Clutch-Pulley-Driver-Driven-8-16HP-STEEL-/332553785775?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292
Good times!
Always a good time!
6 months later and how has it held up?
And I don't have an eBay credit card, I do have a Walmart credit card tho!
www.walmart.com/ip/Comet-TAV2-Torq-A-Verter-1in-Bore-40-Pitch/104475532?athcpid=104475532&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVAV&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020&athguid=01a7e196-4ea-167caf0378a6d4&athena=true
Surprisingly its just fine, haven't had any issues at all with it.
Do you have a link for that kit from Ebay?
I don't have a link, the seller i got mine from is out of stock. If you search "40 series torque converter kit" on ebay you will find it from other sellers. Thanks for watching, check out some of our other vids!
@@FireAndGasoline I see a few on there in the $229.00 range, is that what you paid for yours?
@@servantsglassllc yeah, thats about what we paid.
@@FireAndGasoline Ok, thanks for the info.
Woah really?? They're less then 200 on go power sports
There's nothing wrong with the drive pulley you guys put it on wrong.
It wasn't the driver pulley that was the problem, its the way the backing plate was made. We flipped the driver pulley to make it work. Also it still works and no belt wear so its fine how it is. Thanks for watching!
@@FireAndGasoline great I'm glad it all worked out
Hey so you guys get a lot of flack over this. I should know I dished out some my self. But after seeing this application for myself you guys were totally right. Also, this is a much stronger belt than what may be popular. T hff banks for t hff e insight
Thanks for the insight
@@lizzard7473 no problem. We put the vid out here so people would know how this particular design worked. We honestly weren't sure it would work at all this way. Turns out it has been better than other setups we have. We have modified the weights inside the driver pulley but I would say its a overall good setup.
Get some knobbies broski.
Would love to, unfortunately tires aren't cheap and we dont make much from these vids. Until we do, we gotta use funds we have to keep builds and other vids going. Thanks for watching, Check out some of our other vids!
Link?
You should be able to find it on Ebay if you search 40 series torque converter. Think it was around $200 when I bought mine. Sorry no link, thanks for watching!
Fire And Gasoline just found one for 60.. www.ebay.com/p/1248661935
Fire And Gasoline plan on running with a www.generatorfactoryoutlet.com/products/duromax-xp16hp-16-hp-1-shaft-recoil-start-engine?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3M7dxMiS5gIVhshkCh21GA0kEAQYAiABEgIbvfD_BwE on my yerf dog3203
Meant 80, not 60
Your plate is on backwards bud thats why she dont line up🤣🤣
No, its definitely not backwards. If you look at how its made thats the only way it can be. Otherwise it works great, haven't had one issue since. Works so good i bought a second one.
Hehe trying to put gx 390 on my moped right now hehehe
Awesome!
did you built your buggy yourself?
The go kart itself we did not build, it is a yerf dog go kart. The engine we did modify and install onto the frame. Thanks for watching!
Its a jerf dog. I have the same one on black
It shouldn't be that tight
Somebody needs to cut their hair!
Your destroying your top end speed, drive belt, and clutch.
Was that a guy with girl hair wtf
😂 Never knew hair had a gender....